It’s Time to Stop Being Afraid of a President Pence and Call for Impeachment

Just two weeks into Donald Trump’s presidency, 40 percent of Americans already support impeaching him. That’s a number that you have to imagine will only grow as President Trump continues to show disdain for the Constitution.

In every discussion I see about a potential Trump impeachment, there are always a few liberals who object to the idea, saying that they’re more terrified of the thought of Mike Pence as president.

Stop. We can’t honestly look at Pence and say he’d do a worse job than our current petulant president.

Trump is starting pointless feuds with our allies Mexico and Australia. He’s ignoring intelligence briefings. He invited a neo-Nazi to be his most trusted advisor. He’s blatantly denying reality on trivial matters like the size of his inauguration crowd and whether or not he won the popular vote.

Trump is unhinged and easily offended. Here we have a man who has complete power to fire nuclear weapons, and has even expressed an interest in using them simply because they exist. This scenario is dangerous for people all over the world, as well as in the U.S. if other nations decide to retaliate.

I’m not arguing that a Pence presidency wouldn’t be regressive. He’s anti-choice, anti-LGBT and chummy with the Koch brothers. At the same time, that basically makes him your typical establishment Republican.

Unfortunately, in our current two-party system where power swings back and forth, we’ve got to expect to have a commander in chief like Pence about 50 percent of the time.

At least with a Republican who is a career politician, we can expect a certain base level of decorum. Pence backtracked somewhat on Indiana’s “religious freedom” (right-to-discriminate) bill and he knows – although he can’t admit it as Trump’s VP – that banning Muslims based on their religion is unconstitutional.

While we shouldn’t settle for either Trump or Pence in the next election, in the interim, I’d much rather deal with a leader whose ideas I oppose than a leader whose ideas I oppose and is unpredictable, irrational and despotic.

Besides, impeaching Trump would send a message to subsequent politicians that you can’t just sign unconstitutional executive orders because you feel like it, you can’t maintain extensive financial conflicts of interest while being the leader of the nation, and you can’t bully the media into reporting the “alternative facts” you want them to.

Unchecked, this kind of behavior could become the norm, sending us further and further away from the democratic principles on which this country was founded. Impeachment is necessary to ensure that Trump’s legacy is a failed one, a cautionary tale for copycat tyrants.

Any fear I have of a Pence presidency is vastly overshadowed by that of Trump completing his term. Please join the movement to oust him from the White House by signing and sharing this Care2 petition. And let’s hope that Pence shows Steve Bannon the door while he’s at it.

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224 comments

Siyus C
Siyus Copetallus4 months ago

Thank you for sharing!

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Carolyn Stalcup
Carolyn Stalcup5 months ago

Pence is almost worse than Trump. I wish Pence would be removed before Trump - and THEN Trump. Then we would not have to deal with either. Pence is an alt-right militant Christian, anti-gay, anti-science, anti-progressive. He makes my skin crawl.

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Marie W
Marie W5 months ago

Thank you for sharing!

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Brian F
Brian F8 months ago

Rhoberta E Perhaps you should take the advice of Milli SPM. Their is a lot of truth to what was said. Instead of adding substance to the conversation, you berate the person you disagree with, as if everyone must agree with you. You have no solutions. You push people away, by attacking anyone who disagrees with you, instead of trying to argue for your position on issues. Perhaps you should try to argue your point of view on issues, instead of personally attacking others who disagree with you.

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Dan Blossfeld
Dan Blossfeld8 months ago

JT,
I do not believe cronyism is against the law, nor would he be the first president in put family in official positions. If any actions are unconstitutional, that is for the courts to decide. They are not necessarily impeachable offenses. What has he done that can be considered bribery, treason, or other high crimes and misdemeanors? I do not like him either, but that is no reason for impeachment. I thought the Civil Rights Act did away with arresting and convicting people just because we do not like who they are.

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JT Smith
JT S8 months ago

We're looking to impeach Trump for more than we simply don't don't like him. Trump's actions have been unconstitutional. There's also the flagrant violations of the law like putting his family in official advisory positions and not completely divesting his assets or putting them in a blind trust. There's also a laundry list of conflicts of interest that threaten national security nearly as much as climate change. These have all been well documented. As for Pence, while he doesn't have that baggage he's worse than Trump in regards to his ties to Big Oil and the dismantling of all the progress we've made over the last years and is particularly dangerous for women and the poor in regards to his stances on Medicare/Medicaid and Planned Parenthood.

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JT Smith
JT S8 months ago

Yes, we need to impeach Trump. But we DO need to be concerned about Pence being President as Pence can be more dangerous by virtue of the fact that he'd be the grown-up who's goals (like eliminating Planned Parenthood, etc) are the same or worse than Trump without constantly tweeting or acting like an overgrown 6-year-old.

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Rhoberta E
Rhoberta E8 months ago

Milli SPM
Do you have ANY nice days ??? Your "intelligence" seems to have deserted you.

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Milli SiteProbs M
MilliSiteProbs M8 months ago

Rhoberta E. Oh my dear sweet (sarcasm) little suck'a, do you get taken for a ride much?

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Rhoberta E
Rhoberta E8 months ago

@ Milli SPM
Just for your personal file, I have NEVER flagged any of your posts so maybe you have ticked off others too.
I have seen other members respond to your posts a lot harsher than you think I do. The difference is you think you CAN bully me and maybe not some of the male members.
Off to do my volunteering. Have a great day

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