It’s Time to Stop Being Afraid of a President Pence and Call for Impeachment

Just two weeks into Donald Trump’s presidency, 40 percent of Americans already support impeaching him. That’s a number that you have to imagine will only grow as President Trump continues to show disdain for the Constitution.

In every discussion I see about a potential Trump impeachment, there are always a few liberals who object to the idea, saying that they’re more terrified of the thought of Mike Pence as president.

Stop. We can’t honestly look at Pence and say he’d do a worse job than our current petulant president.

Trump is starting pointless feuds with our allies Mexico and Australia. He’s ignoring intelligence briefings. He invited a neo-Nazi to be his most trusted advisor. He’s blatantly denying reality on trivial matters like the size of his inauguration crowd and whether or not he won the popular vote.

Trump is unhinged and easily offended. Here we have a man who has complete power to fire nuclear weapons, and has even expressed an interest in using them simply because they exist. This scenario is dangerous for people all over the world, as well as in the U.S. if other nations decide to retaliate.

I’m not arguing that a Pence presidency wouldn’t be regressive. He’s anti-choice, anti-LGBT and chummy with the Koch brothers. At the same time, that basically makes him your typical establishment Republican.

Unfortunately, in our current two-party system where power swings back and forth, we’ve got to expect to have a commander in chief like Pence about 50 percent of the time.

At least with a Republican who is a career politician, we can expect a certain base level of decorum. Pence backtracked somewhat on Indiana’s “religious freedom” (right-to-discriminate) bill and he knows – although he can’t admit it as Trump’s VP – that banning Muslims based on their religion is unconstitutional.

While we shouldn’t settle for either Trump or Pence in the next election, in the interim, I’d much rather deal with a leader whose ideas I oppose than a leader whose ideas I oppose and is unpredictable, irrational and despotic.

Besides, impeaching Trump would send a message to subsequent politicians that you can’t just sign unconstitutional executive orders because you feel like it, you can’t maintain extensive financial conflicts of interest while being the leader of the nation, and you can’t bully the media into reporting the “alternative facts” you want them to.

Unchecked, this kind of behavior could become the norm, sending us further and further away from the democratic principles on which this country was founded. Impeachment is necessary to ensure that Trump’s legacy is a failed one, a cautionary tale for copycat tyrants.

Any fear I have of a Pence presidency is vastly overshadowed by that of Trump completing his term. Please join the movement to oust him from the White House by signing and sharing this Care2 petition. And let’s hope that Pence shows Steve Bannon the door while he’s at it.

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221 comments

Brian F
Brian Fabout a month ago

Rhoberta E Perhaps you should take the advice of Milli SPM. Their is a lot of truth to what was said. Instead of adding substance to the conversation, you berate the person you disagree with, as if everyone must agree with you. You have no solutions. You push people away, by attacking anyone who disagrees with you, instead of trying to argue for your position on issues. Perhaps you should try to argue your point of view on issues, instead of personally attacking others who disagree with you.

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Dan Blossfeld
Dan Blossfeldabout a month ago

JT,
I do not believe cronyism is against the law, nor would he be the first president in put family in official positions. If any actions are unconstitutional, that is for the courts to decide. They are not necessarily impeachable offenses. What has he done that can be considered bribery, treason, or other high crimes and misdemeanors? I do not like him either, but that is no reason for impeachment. I thought the Civil Rights Act did away with arresting and convicting people just because we do not like who they are.

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JT Smith
JT Smithabout a month ago

We're looking to impeach Trump for more than we simply don't don't like him. Trump's actions have been unconstitutional. There's also the flagrant violations of the law like putting his family in official advisory positions and not completely divesting his assets or putting them in a blind trust. There's also a laundry list of conflicts of interest that threaten national security nearly as much as climate change. These have all been well documented. As for Pence, while he doesn't have that baggage he's worse than Trump in regards to his ties to Big Oil and the dismantling of all the progress we've made over the last years and is particularly dangerous for women and the poor in regards to his stances on Medicare/Medicaid and Planned Parenthood.

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JT Smith
JT Smithabout a month ago

Yes, we need to impeach Trump. But we DO need to be concerned about Pence being President as Pence can be more dangerous by virtue of the fact that he'd be the grown-up who's goals (like eliminating Planned Parenthood, etc) are the same or worse than Trump without constantly tweeting or acting like an overgrown 6-year-old.

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Rhoberta E
Rhoberta Eabout a month ago

Milli SPM
Do you have ANY nice days ??? Your "intelligence" seems to have deserted you.

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Milli SiteProbs M
Milli SiteProbs Mabout a month ago

Rhoberta E. Oh my dear sweet (sarcasm) little suck'a, do you get taken for a ride much?

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Rhoberta E
Rhoberta Eabout a month ago

@ Milli SPM
Just for your personal file, I have NEVER flagged any of your posts so maybe you have ticked off others too.
I have seen other members respond to your posts a lot harsher than you think I do. The difference is you think you CAN bully me and maybe not some of the male members.
Off to do my volunteering. Have a great day

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Rhoberta E
Rhoberta Eabout a month ago

Milli SPM
Awwwww !! Are you having a bad day??? So sorry you can't bully me like you do others.
No, you hide your profile for reasons just like what you're doing here. You make incorrect statements, outright lie about facts and when I question your "posts" you fly into a rage just like this one.
As I have said to another here, don't flatter yourself that I would stalk YOU. I just find it often helps explain stupidity if I see where someone is from..
I actually DO spread sunshine and in spite of your nastiness, I even wish YOU a good day.
BTW....BABY ??? Worse than I thought.

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Philippa P
Philippa Pabout a month ago

Impeach Trump!

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Milli SiteProbs M
Milli SiteProbs Mabout a month ago

Rhoberta E So mind your own business then, who asked you for your opinion on each and every comment posted over and over again? You dish it out but can't take it back can you. You should take your own advice and be the solution instead of the problem. YOU never make a comment on the subject, ONLY on the PEOPLE that make comments challenging or questioning the truth of the writer. No wonder so many "hide" their profile, YOU make it personal by looking up their profile and commenting on THEM PERSONALLY. NO ONE needs a Queen BEE like you stalking them, and that is exactly what you do.

Ya, to bad you are not capable of spreading sunshine instead of criticism. AND darn right, you natter at me, I post things just to piss you off baby! Wanna flag me, don't give a tinkers butt, go for it, you have done it before and will do it again. Have a great life!

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