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Minorities Don’t Deserve “New” Rights? How Christian Of You

Minorities Don’t Deserve “New” Rights? How Christian Of You

The Christian Institute, reacting to a questionable poll that appears to show the number of British people identifying as lesbian, gay or bisexual in the UK may be much lower than previously thought, has bemoaned that the UK should consider changing its marriage laws to incorporate same-sex couples when they are such a minority.

Reports The Daily Mail:

The Christian Institute think-tank said the ONS numbers meant the Prime Minister was revolutionising the marriage laws for the sake of new rights for a very small group. Spokesman Mike Judge said: “It is staggering that such a monumental change is being carried out on behalf of a tiny proportion of society.”

Hilariously poor though the argument is, it is also incredibly telling.

The very idea that because a population is smaller than previously thought, the majority has permission to disregard minority rights is so ripe with an overindulgence of privilege it should be tested for gout.

Gay people, a fraction of the population or not, have under Britain’s equality laws been given the same rights in nearly every other sphere as their straight counterparts. The Civil Partnership Act of 2004, though a positive step when it was introduced, falls short of Britain’s equality mandate precisely because it discriminates between same-sex couples and heterosexual couples in civil recognition and does so for no sound reason.

It is not only right then that the British government should amend the marriage law, it is vital to remain consistent with the UK’s commitment to equal treatment.

With regards to the Office of National Statistics’ Integrated Household Survey poll to which the Daily Mail and The Christian Institute refers, though they do so rather obliquely for reasons I will get to below, the poll found that only 1.5 per cent of men say they are gay, 0.7 per cent of women say they are lesbian and 0.4 per cent of people say they are bisexual.

The estimate used by the British government has for a good while now been that six per cent of the population falls under the gay, lesbian or bisexual bracket.

To be clear, the IHS poll covers only how people identify, not who they choose to have sex with or to whom they are actually attracted. Self-reporting is inaccurate but this weakness is not particular to this one poll. However, the ONS Integrated Household Survey has over recent years undergone a diminishing sample-size and therein has suffered a lack of statistical accuracy, a fact highlighted on the IHS website itself.

That the Christian Institute and the agenda toting Daily Mail did not reveal this or make this information readily accessible seems a (notable) shame.

Such a large discrepancy from other figures–though not wildly different from previous IHS figures–suggests that this most recent poll, which surveyed 350,000 from across the country, cannot be considered wholly accurate without further investigation, something further highlighted by the fact that these statistics are considered “experimental” by the ONS.

As such, revising up or down LGB population numbers based on this poll alone would be foolish–as is the Daily Mail reporting this as an ironclad number.

Regardless, the idea that one simply doesn’t have to bother about treating small groups of people equally, as the Christian Institute implies, betrays most starkly their flare for placing its own religious views above the civil rights of others, a lack of empathy that hardly matches the ideals Christians are supposed to strive toward.

 

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7:07AM PDT on Nov 2, 2012

Equality and justice for all? Human kind has been working on this since the beginning of our existence. We still have more to do and more to be....

9:58PM PDT on Oct 26, 2012

@ Terrence D.

No Mr. Terrence D. religion has no place on this earth an nothing good has ever came out of religion an as long as there is religion on this earth there will "NEVER BE WORLD PEACE" just more hate an killing more discrimination an in time some religious bigots like yourself will get their hands on a atom bomb "AN IN THE NAME OF YOUR GOD WILL LIGHT IT OFF AN THEN AN ONLY THEN THERE WILL BE TRUE PEACE ON EARTH". =^..^=


Have you taken in a stray kitty today.

9:56PM PDT on Oct 26, 2012

@ Terrence D.

No Mr. Terrence D. religion has no place on this earth an nothing good has ever came out of religion an as long as there is religion on this earth there will "NEVER BE WORLD PEACE" just more hate an killing more discrimination an in time some religious bigots like yourself will get their hands on a atom bomb "AN IN THE NAME OF YOUR GOD WILL LIGHT IT OFF AN THEN AN ONLY THEN THERE WILL BE TRUE PEACE ON EARTH". =^..^=


Have you taken in a stray kitty today.

9:56PM PDT on Oct 26, 2012

@ Terrence D.

No Mr. Terrence D. religion has no place on this earth an nothing good has ever came out of religion an as long as there is religion on this earth there will "NEVER BE WORLD PEACE" just more hate an killing more discrimination an in time some religious bigots like yourself will get their hands on a atom bomb "AN IN THE NAME OF YOUR GOD WILL LIGHT IT OFF AN THEN AN ONLY THEN THERE WILL BE TRUE PEACE ON EARTH". =^..^=


Have you taken in a stray kitty today.

12:48PM PDT on Oct 20, 2012

ONe of my favorite bumper stickers still is

Jeeze if you love Honkus.

7:45AM PDT on Oct 14, 2012

John H
i agree. What offends us who still maintain spiritual beliefs (or a sneakin suspicion that there is MORE than what philosophical Rationalism has room for) is the abuse of religion and spirituality for personal gain as we see in people mentioned. Unfortunately Christianity has been twisted and shaped with this history . Of course real followers of Christ aren't evil.
BUT as skeptics, atheists AND spiritually centered, can nod in agreement, because the USE of religion to justify selfish agendas represents often the worst kind of evil. Its the kind of rationalizing that has justified violence and arrogance because "thus saith the Lord". This is why its important to challenge such people. Hopefully eyes will be opened and people can see what they are doing. But unfortunately it does provoke emotions out of us and often that only makes their hide tougher and their self-righteousness tattooed in permanent ink.

12:09AM PDT on Oct 14, 2012

@Linda, I don’t think this site is specifically anti-Christian. Rather I think I would term many of the most frequent contributors as equal opportunity rejecters of religion. Were someone to declare themselves Christian but not attempt to condemn those who don’t believe in Christianity again and again and again trying to prove the validity of their religion merely by declaring their faith and misquoting scripture ad nauseaum I’m reasonably certain no one would challenge or behave with disrespect to the believer. But here we are talking about Terrence. I’m quite new to the site but I grew very tired of this man quite quickly. I’m as opposed to physical violence as anyone I know but frequently I have a craving to throttle the man. I really think we would be better served if we could just ignore him but from my point of view he just makes that course of action impossible.
There are several Christian denominations who have accepted openly Gay members and clergy. The Episcopal Church elevated an openly Gay priest to the bishopric and then voted the man the Superior Bishop in America. This didn’t set well with every church and several have broken away from the American church and instead aligned themselves with the Anglican Church in South Africa I think---no promises the information is completely factual I’m writing from memory.

3:00PM PDT on Oct 13, 2012

Not to mention that trying to stabilize and reverse the very critical downward economic slide this country was in as a result of a couple of "taking care of my pals" republican presidents with their marvelous trickle down theory had left us in took a bit of the priority the first part of his term in office. Yes, republican Gov. Ryan had his hand out for bail-out money to save his buddies. Did they trickle it down or use it as typical republicans and take the board of directors on much needed vacations?

Back to topic, it doesn't matter what you call the "benefits" when they are being denied to a specific social group for purely discriminatory reasons. You need an emergency transfusion to survive and I'm sure their blood has the same qualities as yours. Human is human and life is life. I would like to see a better intelligence standard in voting, but understand that is just the type of opening for manipulation that the republicans in several states are trying to exploit with the polls. Using religion of any sort to deny equity to a group that doesn't happen to share some aspect of your thought process is not spirituality, nor will ever be, that is governing principles and that is why no one religion should be allowed to dictate it's principles to state affairs. What gives a minister, pastor or priest the right to teach followers to persecute those who don't practice the same way? If you live this way I can see why you focus so hard on an after life that may or may NOT exist

2:11PM PDT on Oct 13, 2012

Isn't it absolutely entertaining to listen to a troll peel off the bottom of their shoe stick it in their loud flapping mouth and murmur yum yum as they gnaw on the neoprine while calling it leather?

I truly enjoy seeing another dufus go down claiming that there wasn't any interference on the part of the GOP in their obstructionist behavior to make the American public pay through the nose merely to make a standing president look bad, claiming that there was no interference in the first two years.

Hey moron can you spell the word filibuster? It has only one L. Give it a shot, you might learn something.

12:40PM PDT on Oct 13, 2012

Winn-they could have had equal rights yrs ago, only they insisted they call it marriage and everybody else said NO

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