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North Dakota Tries to Ban Abortions Before Most Women Even Know They Are Pregnant

North Dakota Tries to Ban Abortions Before Most Women Even Know They Are Pregnant

I have to wonder if anti-choice lawmakers have some kind of bet going on as to who can pass the most extreme anti-woman law this year because there has to be an explanation for this monstrosity coming out of North Dakota.

Anti-choice lawmakers in the oil-rich state passed a series of regulations, including a straight “heartbeat ban” that would make abortion illegal at the point that an embryonic heart beat can be detected, which is typically around 6 weeks pregnancy or earlier via transvaginal ultrasound. Another restriction would also ban abortions based on the gender of the fetus while yet another bans abortions based solely on genetic abnormalities.

According to the Center for Reproductive Rights which represents the only clinic in the state to provide abortions, the six-week ban would take effect before many women would know they were pregnant. “The passage of this law is nothing short of a frontal assault on the U.S. Constitution, 40 years of Supreme Court precedent, and the health and fundamental rights of women,” said Nancy Northup, the center’s president and CEO.

Both the Center for Reproductive Rights and Planned Parenthood urged Republican Governor Jack Dalrymple to veto both bills. More than half of the patients at a Planned Parenthood clinic across the border from Fargo in Moorhead, Minnesota, are North Dakota residents. “With this vote, politicians in North Dakota have proven their disregard for a woman’s personal medical decision-making,” Sarah Stoesz, president and CEO of Planned Parenthood Minnesota, North Dakota, South Dakota, said in a statement.

Don’t think banning abortion before most women even know they are pregnant is the end of the restrictions anti-choice lawmakers in North Dakota have planned this year. They are also considering several bills that would put restrictions on abortion including a proposed amendment to the state constitution that declares that life begins at conception. That would be put before voters in November 2014 if the state House approves the provision.

Women’s health advocates plan to challenge the 6 week ban in court, but given how much money the state has from its oil exploits, the idea of spending hundreds of thousands of dollars defending a clearly unconstitutional law is not something they are worried about. And that’s likely why anti-choice lawmakers chose North Dakota to push the 6 week ban in the first place.

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5:58PM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

So by Pat P's irrefutable logic he's just proved that humans (well some of them) can fly. How you ask - A person dies, gets cremated and the ashes get thrown in the air - TAH DAHHHH the person is flying. No Pat, it's just ash in the air. The reason a fetus is called a fetus is because that is what it is - it's not a person because it has not physically developed into one yet.
Oh, and as a side note you've managed to jump the shark a bit. Stretching PP to compare it to the nazis is a truly inspired bit of loopy logic but you've left your craziness nowhere left to maneuver. Where can you possibly go after claiming that PP is the equivalent of nazi death camps. Please believe me when I say that I am truly looking forward to what craziness you say next *sitting and waiting patiently*

4:51PM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Actuallty Pat P., the real nonsense is an idiot that can't tell the difference between a chicken or an egg or an acorn and an oak tree, that is the "nonsense."

11:23AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Suba,

Another point I wanted to address.

Are you seriously trying to posit that somehow there is a difference between a "fetus" and a human being?

Let's consider the word play you're using.

You're claiming that a fetus is not a baby. And your point is what? That somehow it's not human? But Suba it's still 100% human. It's simply a human at day 28 or perhaps day 56.

It is correct to say an adolescent is not a baby. Yet is a baby any less human? No. It's merely a human at day 400 instead of day 5840.

It is correct to say an 20 year old is not elderly. But is the 20 year old any less human? No. It's merely a human at day 7300 instead of day 29,200.

So the argument that "it's a fetus - not a baby - so we're justified in killing it" is absolute nonsense.

11:11AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Suba,

I'll give you one last shot since we're on a different article. You can clear up your position easily enough.

Here's the question.

If Dr. Gosnell is found guilty of holding a live baby in his hands or on the table and cutting their necks with scissors and killing them should such an act be "legal" by any physician so long as he administers enough anesthesia.

Because these are your words not mine. Perhaps you were misunderstood.

Again, should it be legal for ANY physician to birth a live baby and kill it outside the womb so long as he administers enough anesthesia.

Go ahead. Clear up your position for all to see.

11:09AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

I just laughed my ass off when I saw the commenter who exhorts others to try facts refer to a women's health-care clinic as a "carnal house."

10:28AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Cyan said "Dennis, try facts. I notice you just spew the liberal/progressive party line. I have facts from PP and my experience and research. You have nothing. You are a useful tool, or useless, depending on the tool."

Cyan we have seen your "facts" before, warmed over right wing talking points, misrepresentations, half-truths, and lies from the inside the right wing bubble. Don't make us laugh, you have ZERO credibility and Pat P. has even less.

10:25AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Cyan said "By your "logic", why don't you (Men) keep your penises out of women's vaginas and your sperm out of women's utereus"

Cyan, I assure you, my penis has NEVER been in the vagina of a women unless expressly invited.

I wish the same could be said of you and your ilk who want to force your anti-woman/anti-abortion views into the vaginas, uterues, and wombs of women WHO DO NOT WANT YOU THERE!

Did you get that Cyan, did it penetrate into your little right wing brain, you know the whole part about being wanted there? Do you get it now?

10:13AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Suba,

Unlike you I do have citations to prove you lie:

At 3:08pm PDT on March 26, 2013 at the article here at care2 titled "Kansas Has A New Abortion Bill. And It’s BIG" you wrote this:

"Anyone performing late term abortion should take great care to administer the proper dosage of anesthesia, enough to fully anesthetize the fetus but NOT harm the mother. They should also monitor the patient with extra care.

Apparently Dr. Gosnell didn't do this. If reports are true he gave anesthesia according to patients ability to pay. Which is a most unethical and inhumane act in my opinion. As a result he killed at least one woman (for whom you, Pat, have no concern, except as another weapon in your agenda). Also instead of killing fetuses properly under anesthesia, he cut their spine with scissors, perhaps without adequate anesthesia."

source for your quote: http://goo.gl/75vIi

So you admit that you are fine with killing HUMAN BEINGS outside of the womb, which is what Dr. Gosnell is charged with doing, so long as enough "anesthesia" is administered. But if you would like to backpedal on this position now I will be MORE than glad to hear it. So by all means. Backpedal.

If you do not want to backpedal then you confirm what I wrote is true because there is NO difference in the poor human in Dr. Gosnells hands vs. the poor babies in the neighborhoods. "Give them anesthesia, kill them, and spare their poverty she cries!"

7:35AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Mary B. That is always the way of an antichoice bigot. Now and forever. Which is unfortunate as everything about this issue should be what they themselves, as conservatives, should want. People taking personal responsibility for themselves. Well one day the rhetoric and the bigotry will ramp down as republican party implodes to the point that it has less political relevance and power.

7:29AM PDT on Apr 15, 2013

Pat P. And representing Planned Parenthood she answered: ""we believe that any decision that's made should be left up to the woman, the family, and the physician." ,-- You did read this while you were copying pasting as that is following the law.. What Pat you were just shown to be a fool again..You would be right.

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