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The Hill: Liberals are Winning The Health Care Debate

The Hill: Liberals are Winning The Health Care Debate

They can try changing it from “Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act,” to “”Repealing the Job-Destroying Health Care Law Act” if they want, but a bigger makeover may be necessary for Republicans to get the support of the general public on their plan to roll back health care reform.

Turns out, not that many people are interested in a repeal.

The Hill reports:

Bad news for conservatives and Republicans in the new AP healthcare poll, which has the following results:

Number of voters who favor stronger healthcare laws that do more: 43 percent. Number who favor repeal: only 26 percent. Number who favor the current law: 19 percent. Number who favor a healthcare law that does less: 10 percent.

In short, 62 percent favor either the current law or a new law that is more to the liking of liberals, while only 36 percent favor repeal or a new law more to the liking of conservatives.

How did the conservatives lose their momentum on the issue?  Turns out the facts just don’t support their talking points.

Despite what Republicans say, the 2010 health care law isn’t necessarily a job killer, experts say.

Republicans have titled their effort to overturn the law the “Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act,” and that’s their favorite talking point against it. The House of Representatives will start debate on repeal Tuesday and probably vote Wednesday.

Saying that the law is a job killer doesn’t necessarily make it one, however, and independent experts say that such a conclusion is at least premature, if not unfounded.

“The claim has no justification,” said Micah Weinberg, a senior research fellow at the centrist New America Foundation’s Health Policy Program.

The House will be debating and voting on the “Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act” this week.

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9:27PM PST on Jan 23, 2011

noted, thanx

9:03PM PST on Jan 23, 2011

And yet they keep telling lies, spinning and twisting the truth, trying to find some way to make people believe what is patently untrue: that this law is bad for America.

11:45PM PST on Jan 22, 2011

Wait a min. Faye is explaining that evil companies that employ people and ruin the country will have to close and lay off all their workers and that will help the country because they will vote democrat. Because they will be poor. I got it. Thanks.
Go democrats. Go poor.

2:26PM PST on Jan 22, 2011

Why have there been so many lies told about this bill? The biggest is that it is a "job killer". It only takes a little logic to see how this bill will actually MAKE jobs. Problem is, these days everyone wants it "right now". Many could take a lesson in patience from those who lived during the Great Depression or were raised by those who did. The logic is quite simple. The more people getting insurance grows, the ins co. need more workers. Next is more nurses medical assisstants aides and even drs. Sooner or later more offices and med groups will be needed, thereby making construction jobs and on and on.

2:06AM PST on Jan 22, 2011

Ernest R- I wish I had the answer. No, I don't think insurance companies care about anyone! Nor do I think many dem politicians AND/OR reps do either. But when our gov decides to pass a bill, that none of them have read, that many have opted out of themselves, on a surprise weekend vote (for something they KNOW that less than 50% of the country wants), it bothers me.

And to kick me in the other one- IF I don't buy their insurance, I'm suppposed to pay a fine? Can you say- "UNCONSTITUTIONAL?"

The only jobs these socialists have actually created in the last 2yrs (while our WELL-KNOWN, ACTUAL, FACTUAL, CURRENT UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS >20%) are accountants for this crap! Yes, this pisses me off.

And this bill only seems to help insurance companies. I mean, they just got MILLIONS of new customers who don't have a choice. They take in more per person & have fewer people (thus more income, unless they go TOO high) w/fewer claims.

I really think health care is needed, particularly to defeat the pre-existing conditions BS & to keep people from being dropped for not being profitable enough, etc. But this bill was passed by egos- they rushed it through so they could feel superior. Had repubs & dems worked together- they could have made this work. I hope I didn't come off as a know-it-all b/c that was not my intent- I just know that THIS bill has got to go...

5:43PM PST on Jan 20, 2011

Hopeful

1:20PM PST on Jan 20, 2011

Robby C. I’m just trying to figure out who to support. Do insurance companies care more about the people than Democrats ? What do you advise ?

12:30PM PST on Jan 20, 2011

I'm glad to see that democrates are not sitting this fight out,

9:52AM PST on Jan 20, 2011

The U.S. has the best health car ein the world....if you can afford it, and maybe not even then.

8:30PM PST on Jan 19, 2011

One thing needs to be said -
World Health Organization ratings for health care:
United States ranks 37th after Costa Rica and above
Slovenia.

It also spends more per capita to achieve these glorious results. Why? Insurance companies must make profits for their investors. If a patient is too expensive, find a reason to dump them - there are your "death panels".

What good are the newest toys, eg MRI's in every town, if the average person can't afford to access them?
As for hospitals being unhealthy places as mentioned by a couple of people - try losing your leg in an accident and see if your local accupuncturist or herbalist can fix it up for you.
As for abuse, yes there will be some, but likely no more than currently exists & the benefits outweigh the abuse by putting healthy people back into the society & the work force thus paying back for the care they received via taxes. It's a win/win scenario & I can't understand why people don't see it.
It's always the same BS. I don't want the government running health care and yet it seems OK for corporations to do so. There is waste in every system but the waste is not endemic in the system itself but is due to mismanagement. Both corporations & government can be guilty of this but on top of that, insurance companies MUST make profits. How many insurance cos. have you heard of going broke? Who, along with banks, always have the biggest skyscrapers in every city? Think about it.

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