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Ray P., you should do a little more research on the extreme Muslims (that is what I did say). They are NOT peaceful; just look at the fear that they have instilled in their own people! Look at the way that they treated their own people! No sir, you have it wrong! These men are evil, plain and simple. Maybe we shouldn't be at war standing up for the rights of the innocent Islamic people in the Middle East; maybe we shouldn't try to protect them or help give them rights...maybe, we should follow your ideas of "peace"...and simply sit back and watch as the extremists over in the Middle East use chemical and biological weapons on their people (it has happened in the past...do the research). Yeah, you know, that sounds like a much better plan!
Bushs downfall did not cum too soon.People of the world realized the truth of what he stood for. His unforgivable actions caught up with him and very soon he will be standing in front of the Lords Courts. Lets see how he fares!!!. Obama needs to promote peace and not war. Afghanistan and its people are not the enemies. He should get the army out of there. He should use his special teams to target individuals who are frightening him and his people. Why attack a whole country because of the acts perpetrated by a handful of ignorant muslims. Where is the justice in that?? Imagine if God Almighty destroyed the whole of America because of Bush's atrocities committed against mankind !!!
jaime j - your words "The extremist Muslims do not want you alive! They want to kill everyone that doesnt agree with them"
OMG do u actually believe that bull !!! If that were true u wouldnt be alive to make the above comment would u??? The only countries that are continuously waged war on are the muslim countries. its not the other way round. U have it all wrong. Unfortunately the only reason the muslims are been oppressed and attacked, at the whim and fancy of these western warmonger leaders is because they suffer from Islamaphobia. Its sad how through their unfounded intense fear of islam they kill innocent men, women and children by the thousands to try and stil their bias and unreal fears and sight their barbaric acts of murders as justified calling it "War on Terror". Its laughable because these very western leaders are the "REAL TERRORISTS" (Bush and Blair) with their bloodthirsty wars, destroying and maiming innocent lives and pushing the country back into poverty, depriving and robbing the people of basic human necessities to even survive. And they have the audacity to call the muslims barbarians. Its a very sic sic world we unfortunately live in at the moment. But know that Justice will prevail in Gods World for, God is All Seeing, All Knowing and All Hearing. Man can Plan but God Almighty is the Best of Planners. May God protect us all from warmongers and murderers of all religions and all races. Amen.
Yes, today is different! Terrorists who kill almost 3,000 of our people(Oh wait, they represented more than 40 different countries too) cannot be deemed as "mere irritants"!
We have a professional military because most other large nations do. (Look at China and their military forces of over 3 million). We live in a more dangerous world (not because of motive, but because of technology) than our forefathers. We cannot ignore the fact that evil exists. I am amazed at those of you who would sit around with your "make love not war" philosophies without regard to the fact that we have an enemy that is not rational! Sure, peaceful treaties work with an enemy that is rational, but these terrorists are not! They want to kill every single one of you! September 11th is a big reminder of that!
I really wish he had talked more about peace, how to prevent wars, and how to deal with terrorists, WITHOUT massive bombing, invasions, etc... It is possible, but not if he only listens to his generals.. They are universally warmongers.. Anyone else is not allowed to get to that level.
His Afghan ambassador actually gave him some really great advice, but Obama ignored it, at his peril. I am afraid that Afghanistan will doom not only his Presidency, but also be the doom of our nation. That nation has a tendency to break invading civilizations...
Our country used to have impermanent militia.. Armies were raised if we were invaded, but stood down in between wars. War budgets were only during WAR, with other nations. We ignored terrorists, as they could not be more than irritants in the grand scheme of things... and that is still true for the most part.
Now we have a permanent professional army, plus a permanent private mercenary army, plus a military industrial complex that consists of not much more than war profiteers.
In spite of all of this, God will use all of this for a benefit and good...
Yeah, we gotta watch out for those Christian and Jewish suicide bombers...gosh, they propose a huge threat!
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jaime and others... must you so expose your ignorance of history? the eugenics 'study' which became the (german) nazis 'philosophy' was paid for by US taxpayers and exported to the germans by president hoover in 1930. at the same time and throughout the '30s, senator presott bush (yes, great-grandpa of W), was funneling billions in cash and tech to the nazis, known to FDR and the USG, from the usual suspects of rockefeller/ford/GM/chrysler/dupont/jpkennedy, etc. senator bush never did a day in prison. for much suppressed info on this, see the two fine BBC shows 'banking on hitler' and banking with hitler.' also bear in mind that the same folks backed mussolini and FDR backed the fascist franco against 80% of spaniards, including supporting the nazi bombings for franco. the USG backed fascist franco's extermination program and stuck by him til his last breath in 1977.
your position on moslems is the exact sort of rubbish used by warmongers for eons to promote bloodthirsty rahrah based entirely on jingoism. i wish care2 would give the room to express full thoughts but they don't, so i'm gonna have to make this a multiple post even trying to keep it brief...
i've done serious studies comparing the death tolls of the major religions through history. jews have spent most of history oppressed from egypt through the very christian nazis and as a result have killed the least of them. however, the state of israel is trying to change that with its 150 nukes (after 30 years silence, finally last year both general gates and then jimmy carter admitted what the world has long-known); as well as massive CBW arsenal and willingness to kill civilians at a 100:1 rate or leave 3 million child-targeting US-made clusterbomb fragments on maryland-sized lebanon. but data indicates the jews have killed no more than a million people in their history of socio-religious zealotry.
a formerly moslem friend of mine sent me a scholarly study of the moslem wars and expansionist killings showing some 30 million since 800AD, in northern africa, nigeria, persia, and east. there's also the matter of probable millions of deaths from clitoral mutilations, gay executions and other moses-approved atrocities but these likely balance out with witch and gay burnings by christians... and the moslems have yet to launch world wars or global networks of torture chambers and are far behind the jews and christians in WMDs.
i could go into great length on this but when you add the catholic killings of heretics in the 1st milennium; the spanish inquisition that ran from 1297-1892 plus the other inquisitions and pogroms murders to some 10 millions; the crusades (including the 140,000 who died in the 'children's crusades); the wars between catholics/protestants for 300 years and 25
million murders; then history's biggest holocaust begins in 1500 with the genocide of 90% of 70+ million natives in this hemisphere, australia plus huge killings in what are now indonesia/philippines/malaysia/polynesia; then the slave trade's 8 million murders; then the full-scale colonization of
africa another 30 million; plus india and china's and middle-eastern colonizations; then the 162 million war deaths in the 20th century of which 2/3 were christian-based wars and 2/3 of the victims were civilian. since 1990, the US/UK gulfwar/embargo/iraq war has killed over 2 million moslems
over a thug named hussein who the USG empowered for almost 30 years. in the afghan war reagan created the taliban while US ally the saudis were financing al qaeda. and after vicious colonization of iraq by the brits from the 1890s til 1955, killing some 2 million, when they gave it to the yanks... what have the iraqi or afghani peoples ever done to the american people but be born on a sea of 'our oil.' what moslem in their right mind
wouldn't hate us for the genocides and attacks on their cultures?
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