Caffeine is extremely deadly in large doses yet millions, maybe even billions of people ingest it in small doses every day.

Just because something may be toxic in certain amounts doesn't mean it's toxic in smaller doses.

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I have always questioned the ingredients of Simple Green because it's really irritates me. I get sinus irritation and headaches when I use it. The same kind of reaction I used to get when I used Tilex as a kid. And the smell is so overwhelming! When I checked my bottle there was not an ingredient list- another reason to be suspicious. If you're sensitive to chemicals like me, just use your nose to let you know what's "green" and what's not!

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I put a TIFF meter -which measures the presence of combustible gases- at an open bottle of Simple Green and it went off like an air raid siren!!

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question is it better to can or freeze vegatables

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You people are all amazing. You'll take a product that has been on the market for over 30 years, has NO history of actually harming a single person. A product that was ingested by the owner of the company on many occasions to show the safety of it (the owner of that company is still alive and very healthy by the way) and has been accepted into governmental, prison, institutions, animal facilities and conservancies, always providing safe and environmentally preferable products. When Simple Green was developed, it replaced TOXIC solvents that had in fact KILLED people. I guarantee that if you have a kid at home, you'd rather they get into your Simple Green than anything else in the cleaning cabinet, including vinegar. In a comparative ratio, Simple Green is safer to ingest than salt, not that they recommend using it to season your food with.

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Helping with a women's shelter, it was key to find a product that killed 'group-space' germs - many shelters were showing incidents of yukky diseases due to sanitary issues. The thing was that many of the shelter residents were in poor health, and disinfectant smells would make them so ill that they had to be helped outdoors during the cleaning, and till the smell died down.

We tried "Simple Green" because it was supposed to do the job, but we found the same failure in it, upon further research and in use.

Then we found "Dymon Do-it-all" from Dyteck corp.
Killed all germs, even flu and HIV - and the peppermint smell was wonderful. Our 'stats' for group space diseases stayed low, and the ailing women did not need to leave the dorm during cleaning time.

The only 'glitch' - the price - 20dollars a bottle, though a capful did the job, so it was cost-effective. So, the bottle was kept by the Director to administer, to prevent the cleaners from wasting it, since folks will get carried away and use half a bottle to a bucket of water to do the job.

Yay, Dymon Do-it-All.

elle
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p.s. I like it that in my own home, years later, I don't need it :-) Now that I am older, I may , in a few years, get 1 bottle to use at Spring and Fall Cleaning times, because it works against allergies and the increased tendency to flu. Grandchildren visiting would be safer, too. e.

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I've used it for years too. The only reason I started googling to find out if it was bad for you is because my throat gets extremely irritated whenever I spray the stuff. I've ignored this for a long time because it supposed to be non-toxic.

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Simple Green is not simple and its not green.
The MSDS sheets indicate that it is safe, but the EPA lists one of the Simple Green ingredients, 2-butoxyethanol, at the top of its list of ingredients to avoid in Janitorial Products Pollution Prevention Program. The EPA web page says that products with the ingredients on the list "pose very high risks to the janitor using the product, to building occupants, or to the environment." Comments under chronic effects for 2-butoxyethanol list reproductive and fetal damage, liver and kidney damage, and blood damage.
http://www.westp2net.org/janitorial/tools/haz2.htm

The issue of Simple Green was brought to my attention by Dr. Riki Ott, Marine Biologist and Toxicologist who was on the forefront of the environmental and toxic effects resulting from the Exxon Valdez spill in Prince William Sound in 1989.
Show spoke about the toxic effects of many petrochemicals and how the Exxon cleanup wokers are still sick, if not dead, from exposure to the hot water (steam) from the pressure washers mixed with the chemicals used for the cleanup and also the hot water and crude oil mixed together. Those alive have a permanent, hoarse voice.
Dr. Ott wrote a few books, one of which is "Sound Truth and Corporate Myth$ - The Legacy of the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill" In the book, as well as her presentation, Simple Green is noted to have been used at the cleanup.

You can contact Dr. Ott through her website: www.soundtruth.info

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Hi Elizabeth, yes, all vinegar has acetic acid in it. That's the chemical that makes vinegar taste vinegary. Vinegar is 8-15% acetic acid, water, and additives (salt, pepper, whatever) to vary the flavor.

I was just trying to point out that scorecard.org isn't the best source for factual scientific data and analysis. There are no known, proven and verified hazards of EGBE. Only suspected ones, just like the suspected hazards of Acetic Acid and baking soda. Even WVE ONLY suspects EGBE for a reproductive toxin, not that crazy list on scorecard.

If you're happy using vinegar in your home, cooking and eating it (in limited amounts - I'm sure you know drinkign an entire bottle will make you sick) then why doesn't the same principal apply to a product that contains 4% of a chemical with no known hazards? I mean, there's obvious reasons why not to, just this "oh it could possibly maybe do this to you" is not a good one.
The rules should be consistent, that's all.

Vinegar has disinfecting properties - that doesn't mean it's a suitable disinfectant. EPA testing has shown to 100% kill e.coli and salmonella you need to let vinegar (5% acetic acid in the type tested) sit wet on a surface for 45 minutes to be effective. If all you do is spray and wipe, you are mechanically removing the germs. If the surface is porous, mechanical removal doesn't reach the bottom of the pores and the vinegar will dry up before 45 minutes.

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