I have to admit, I think Gregg Braden is pretty fantastic. His energy, enthusiasm and passion are contagious, in the best sort of way. And I really appreciate the way he blends research and scientific evidence with spirituality and the metaphysical world.
After seeing him speak at Celebrate Your Life in Phoenix last fall, I was floating somewhere near the ceiling. Seriously. His presentation, his presence, and the vibration of everyone in the room was quite overwhelming. Which is why I was so grateful to be able to interview Gregg in advance of the upcoming Celebrate Your Life conference in Chicago.
Here is an excerpt from our conversation, and a little bit more about Gregg: he is a New York Times best selling author and internationally renowned as a pioneer in bridging science and spirituality. His books include Fractal Time, The God Code, and The Divine Matrix. Gregg’s work is now published in 17 languages and 27 countries.
Care2: Tell us a bit about the concept of Fractal Time.
Gregg Braden: I think anyone reading the words of this conversation knows that this is no ordinary time in the history of our planet or our civilization or our lives. And in fact the best minds of our time do tell us that we are living an unprecedented time where the greatest threats to our survival, the greatest crises and the greatest magnitude of those crises are all converged into this narrow window of time over a course of just a few years. And my question, if that’s true, is why?
As a scientist I wanted to understand why. And what I quickly began to understand was that we are in fact living a rare, precious moment in the history of our world and of our civilization that most people are identifying around a date that signals the end of a cycle on the Mayan calendar: the winter solstice December 21 of 2012. But the more I researched, what I found, and it was very clear, that it’s less about the date of 2012 and more about a window of time or zone of opportunity.
So what I’d like to do is lay out about five facts and from those facts they will lead us into everywhere that we go in our conversation. And the first fact is that it is a fact that we are living the years of a rare, mysterious cycle of time. It’s a 5,125 year long cycle that indigenous people have known as a great world age. And our great world age, the present world age, began in the biblical era in 3114 BC and it ends with a rare astronomical event on the winter solstice, December 21 the year 2012 AD.
It is a fact that we have lived at least four of the these world age cycles in the past. We are now completing the fifth and moving into the sixth world age cycle. And it is a fact that the close of each cycle in the past there have been great changes on the earth, physical changes that have been catastrophic to the people living during that time. The world didn’t end, but the way that they lived their lives changed dramatically in response to the conditions on the earth. So these are facts that we know.
And the very interesting thing to me, and one of the reasons I’m so passionate about this topic, is that it’s also a fact that some of the greatest civilizations of the past buckled and collapsed under the stress of a world age change in their time, when they reached a point in their cycle where we are in ours right now. And my question then has been, can we learn from the way they responded to their changes and can we avoid the mistakes that they made, as we go through this cycle with the number of people on the planet and with the technology that we have at our disposal? Can we learn from our past and maybe fare better at our time than our ancestors did in theirs? And that led to the research in the book Fractal Time and understanding what the cycles mean. Understanding that 2012 has happened at least four times in the past.
So if we can look at the geologic record and the archeological record it will give us a really good idea of what we can realistically expect as we move into this time of change rather than the speculation and prophesies and predictions and the fear that is being perpetuated in so much of the media. What can we realistically expect? And that is what led on the journey to understand the cycles of time and how they play out within even larger cycles. And this is the fractal nature of the cycles. If we can look into the past what we find is an example, we call that a fractal example, of what we’re living in the present right now and what we can expect in the future.