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'DESTROY THE IDOLS', Egyptian Jihadist Calls for Removal of Sphinx, Pyramids


Society & Culture  (tags: Egypt, Jihad, calls for destruction of sphinx and pyra )

Beth
- 520 days ago - english.alarabiya.net
An Egyptian jihad leader, with self-professed links to the Taliban, called for the "destruction of the Sphinx and the Giza Pyramids in Egypt," drawing ties between the Egyptian relics and Buddha statues, local media reported this week.



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Beth S. (315)
Monday November 12, 2012, 9:14 pm
Now that Egypt is run by radical Islamists, the demand for sharia gets more forceful every day. The destruction of all pre-Islamic symbols of a formerly advanced civilization is likely not far behind, and with them, Egypt’s only profitable industry – tourism.

By the way, Egypt's Arabs are not descended from the original Egyptians. The closest descendants of the true Egyptians are the Christian Copts. Arab hordes came sweeping down from Arabia into Egypt bringing Islam. As a result, the Copts are being oppressed with kidnappings of their women, forced conversions, not allowing Coptic churches to be repaired.

Islam has been destroying the symbols of other religions in numerous countries. Now they are attempting to destroy what is really the heritage of the world.
 

Beth S. (315)
Monday November 12, 2012, 9:19 pm
Lefties pooh-poohed the idea that the new rulers would ever destroy the pyramids and Sphinx…
 

Nancy Black (296)
Monday November 12, 2012, 9:20 pm
Noted, tweeted, tweeted, and shared. Look at the picture; the man is a fanatic. Imagine he wants to destroy some of the most valuable relics of civilization. It's a shame when nuts take over.
 

Beth S. (315)
Monday November 12, 2012, 9:24 pm
Disturbing. From the Al Arabiya article:

"“All Muslims are charged with applying the teachings of Islam to remove such idols, as we did in Afghanistan when we destroyed the Buddha statues,” he said on Saturday during a television interview on an Egyptian private channel, widely watched by Egyptian and Arab audiences.

“God ordered Prophet Mohammed to destroy idols,” he added. “When I was with the Taliban we destroyed the statue of Buddha, something the government failed to do.”

His comments came a day after thousands of ultraconservative Islamists gathered in Tahrir Square to call for the strict application of Sharia law in the new constitution.

But in retaliation to Gohary’s remarks, the vice president of Tunisia’s Ennahda party, Sheikh Abdel Fattah Moro, called the live program and told Gohary that famous historic military commander Amr ibn al-Aas did not destroy statues when he conquered Egypt.

“So who are you to do it?” he wondered. “The Prophet destroyed the idols because people worshiped them, but the Sphinx and the Pyramids are not worshiped.”

Gohary, 50, is well-known in Egypt for his advocacy of violence, Egypt Independent reported.

“He was sentenced twice, one of the two sentences being life imprisonment. He subsequently fled Egypt to Afghanistan, where he was badly injured in the American invasion. In 2007, he traveled from Pakistan to Syria, which then handed him over to Egypt. After Mubarak's fall in early 2011, he was released from prison by a judicial ruling,” the newspaper added.

In recent months, fears have surfaced that the ultra-conservative Salafi political powers may soon wish to debate new guidelines over Egyptian antiquities.

Islamists have swept the recent presidential and parliamentary elections in the country’s post-revolutionary stage, with the Muslim Brotherhood and the ultra-conservative Salafi Islamists rising to political power.

“The fundamental Salafis have demanded to cover Pharaonic statues, because they regard them to be idols,” Egyptian author on ancient history Ahmed Osman told Al Arabiya English, explaining that Salafi Muslims follow conservative religious principles which view statues and sculptures as prohibited in Islam.

“But so far the government has done nothing to indicate what is the future of Egyptian antiquities,” adds Osman.

Many hope that Egypt’s new President Mohammed Mursi will help usher better preservation of Egypt’s proud cultural heritage. Egyptian officials have recently announced the country will reveal more of its ancient buried treasures.

The tomb of Queen Meresankh III, the granddaughter of Khufu, of Great Pyramid fame, is set to be opened to tourists later this year, with the last resting places of five high priests also slated to be put on show.

Officials are also believed to be reopening the underground Serapeum temple at Sakkara, to the south of Cairo."
 

John T. (7)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 5:55 am
The last time a Muslim Imam tried this he was hung. Egyptians aren't about to let their heritage be destroyed by any ones religious zeal. It's the history and their economic well being.
 

Hilary S. (45)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 6:03 am
it was really only a matter of time - islam, the religion of destruction. history will prove the foolishness of egyptians complaining that some of their treasures have found their way to the british museum - at least they won't be destroyed there.
 

Patricia Martin (19)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 6:18 am
I hope you're right, John. From the mark just below this fellow's skull cap, he may be Salafi, and there are quite a few in Egypt with designs. Perhaps enough of them could cause some serious damage.

These ancient, pre-Islamic Egyptian treasures really belong to the world. If these Islamists really do try to damage/destroy them, I would hope a similar end would come to the Islamists.
 

bob m. (32)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 6:20 am


Look in the mirror dude.. you'll find the great majority of the darkness you fear staring back at you.
 

Rob and Jay B. (122)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 7:06 am
It's true that Mohammed, in his frenzy of violence to force all to 'convert' to his new ideology, destroyed the ancient pagan idols of the Arab religion (he did keep the name of the chief deity of their pantheon of hundreds - Allah) in a show of force and intolerance. And he is the example for all Muslims to follow.

He is not the only fruitcake calling for the destruction of these wonderful World Heritage sites. Since the Muslim Brotherhood took control of Egypt their religious authorities have brought this up before.

It's interesting to note that these crazies are NOT 'radical' or 'extreme' Muslims. They are True Believing Orthodox Muslim obeying the commands of Mohammed to the letter. Muslims who aren't actively doing Jihad against all Muslims (or paying their required Zakat to support those who are) and committing the daily atrocities around the world against non-Muslims to establish Islamic/Sharia rule, are the real 'radicals'. They're called 'slackers' and 'hypocrites' in Islamic scripture and as Orthodox Islam's reign of terror increases around the world, fewer of these so-called 'moderate' Muslims dare to oppose it for fear of death for being branded 'apostates'.

So much for the much used but false statement Muslims love to put out to mislead us, 'there is no compulsion in religion' (which was cancelled by all the later much more hateful verses like 'kill unbelievers wherever you find them' Q9:5, and many more).

When will the western media and our dimwitted leaders realize the dangers these loonies pose to us and the whole world's freedoms and begin to fight them?
 

Carola May (20)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 7:26 am
I don't care what you want to believe in. You can worship wood lice as far as I'm concerned, but as soon as you start forcing your personal beliefs and superstitions on me or the rest of the world, you are then a menace. No religion has caused as much misery, death, destruction and oppression as Islam has with an estimated 270 million non-Muslims slaughtered beginning with Mohammed himself.

The Arab Muslims aren't even the real Egyptians! They conquered what was then Christian Egypt, the Copts who have been decimated to only 10% of the population now, and have ruled with oppression and discrimination against them ever since. One must wonder when all the Liberals are going to start calling for Arab Muslim colonizers to end their occupation of all the countries and peoples they conquered, destroyed the cultures, oppressed the religions and colonized. Fat chance.

Just look at the bruise on this twit's forehead. That is a sign of a true Muslim - a fanatic that pounds his head on the floor to show how devout he is and does his required praying all day. I see this often where I live and it gives me chills every time, knowing I'm looking at someone who believes unreservedly in the hateful commands of Islam, who would probably not have a qualm whatsoever to slit my throat, given the opportunity, for being a hated 'infidel'. God help us, please!
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 8:20 am
That mad wild eyed look again- we see this every day in the media. These dogs of hell will destroy everything because they can - and the Muslim brotherhood will let them do it. They respect nothing and will probably only be content when there is nothing left to destroy.
 

Stan B. (124)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 8:38 am
We shouldn't under-estimate what lunacy these fanatics are capable of.
The fact that such action would wreck Egypt's fragile economy wouldn't even enter their heads.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 8:59 am
When in Europe statues are destroyed,music is banned and all evidence of western culture permanently gone without trace...It will be too late.


when the demented rule the asylum it does not bode well
 

Gene Jacobson (233)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 10:21 am
"Of the original Seven Wonders, only one—the Great Pyramid of Giza, the oldest of the ancient wonders—remains relatively intact."

But not for long if this fool and his kind have their way. This man is clinical and how he escaped his life sentence is what the abomination is here. The most dangerous people on earth, this jihadist extremists. Egypt is no longer an ally and all aid to this nation going rapidly backward into madness should be stopped immediately as they will only use it to attack Israel and us. Let them feed themselves, if they can. They need no help from the west, nor should they get any.
 

Phyllis Baxter (40)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 10:22 am
It's taken me nearly half an hour to calm down after reading this. Now I am really, really good and mad. Who are these jerks with all their demands and destructive ways? Why is everyone, including our leaders, bowing and scraping to them. Afraid of being called a bigot or a racist or some such?

These people aren't worth the time of day, or any respect. Vandals, sadists and fanatics should be put in their place. They are just criminals.
 

Elaine Al Meqdad (214)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 10:28 am
Noted! Folks, it's time to start the bombing process of the no brained idiots...NOW!
 

Fred H. (31)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 11:15 am
Amazing. Just today I was talking with someone about how devastating it is for the Egyptian economy to have tourism drop, and then I mused that the real tourist draw throughout the Arab world is from pre-Muslim civilizations. Then, I remarked about how humiliating that must be for Muslims that they haven't created anything worth visiting...and then, I wondered if they would further undermine their economy by destroying "pagan" things like the Pyramids (the way they destroyed the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan). So, a few hours later, I read this.
 

Ge M. (216)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 11:22 am
Islam is about destrying the kaffir/non-Muslim. Destroying their history (not the Muslims so not wanted) is symptomatic. In fact, remember the destruction of the tombs in Timbuktu.

In general, the Muslim society does not encourage individual thought or training and they would not appreciate ancient history nor accept that they do not own it but are merely caretakers.
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 12:19 pm
Well this guy and the rest of his ilk know that if they destroy Egypt's valuable tourist trade along with pyramids and the Sphinx and the country's economy they will be exempt from any responsibility at all. The Western Wets after wiping away a few sympathetic tears will dip into tax-payers money for AID projects and be out on the streets rattling their boxes for the "Poor and suffering in Egypt". At the same time they will fling our borders wide open to welcome hordes of disadvantaged refugees from Egypt. They can of course absolve the newly disadvantaged and their leaders from any personal blame by diverting responsibility to "Global Warming" and "Climate Change" or of course the good standby "Western Capitalism".
 

monica r. (41)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 12:43 pm
As he boasts, they ALREADY dynamited the 5th century Buddhas. They JUST RECENTLY destroyed ancient tombs and priceless, irreplaceable manuscripts in Timbuktu. In Saudi they have bulldozed ancient tombs to put up TOILETS.

Do not think for one minute that they won't destroy the Sphinx and Pyramids. If they physically can figure out how to do it, they WILL. Already a lot of antiquities (from King Tut, even) were destroyed. That was your "Arab Spring" so many hailed as good news.

In addition to destroying world heritage, islam is destroying cultures and lives. Grammy winning traditional musicians in Mali have had their musical instruments and equipment burned, and threats to cut off their fingers if they ever play another note.

They DO NOT CARE about the economy or tourism. Banning alcohol, and forcing the use of matching black beach cover-ups called "burkas" on Egyptian and foreign tourists at Egypt's beaches is crushing tourism already.

People are suffering and dying and nobody in the West seems to care. Maybe some big event like destroying an ancient wonder is worth it if it wakes people up to the fact that there's no moral equivalency between western and islamic cultures. You don't have to be a radical jihadist. Your average muslim believes in executing gays, and that women are "like domestic animals" because the prophet said so. They think marrying girls as young as 9 is fine because the prophet did so. For many of these girls, forced to marry men old enough to be their father or even grandfather, it's a death sentence. Some have died of internal injury from consummating the marriage. Many die in childbirth and often the ones who survive it are injured by it for life. And that's not counting the mental suffering they go through.

Islamic countries have their own set of human rights guidelines, subject to the tenets of shari'a. They do not now, nor will they ever, support the same human rights as the West does. Polls show this isn't just al Qaeda or the Taliban. Even many American muslims believe shari'a is best, and ALL Americans should live under it. So much for your iPod and pet dog, or enjoying the occasional beer. And if you think it could never happen, please read some news from Europe. It's well under way there.
 

Catherine T. (25)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 1:15 pm
If they destroy their only tourist attractions and means of livelihood, no worries, the USA will just keep funneling money to them. Nothing for our own people but everything for other countries not worthy of assistance.
 

Wendy Schroeder (524)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 2:33 pm
Sometimes I think they are all crazy in the middle east. Withdrawl are troops and embassies and warn our citizens to not travel there. Let them destroy each other or let the rightous citizens stand up and get rid of the fanantics once and for all. Boycott them even if it hurts us for a while. This is got to stop! Let mothers send their under 12 children here until it's resolved. Drastic measures for a
drastic situation.
 

Russell R. (87)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 2:55 pm
Murgan Salem al-Gohary, - Go hary! Go hary! Go hary! Go to Hell! You worship a black stone that came out of the heavens. Its a piece of meteorite and your people worship it. A block of Blue Ice should fall from the sky and kiss the shct from the heavenly jet above. You have been deceived and follow in the path of the Morning Star, "Lucifer!" You cover your women because your men have such weak minds. You want to destroy God's people, because they are his chosen ones. Your prophet is the spawn of the devil, the Great Deceiver. As civilized people our laws protect you, but, one day, these laws will turn, as they are now being changed in the U.S. as we gave up most of Freedoms to come after men like you! For God so loved his people that he made them rulers over the scorpions and snakes of the dessert sands. I wouldn't wait for mohammed to come to get you on his white horse before the tribulation. He will be the ones calling you to take shelter in the Gates of Hell! I have been taught to Love and islam has taken me to the end of my rope. There is a very thin line between Love and Hate. Beware of those that you consider infidels. We are not the sheep!
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 4:12 pm
We know so little about the Great Pyramid and the Sphinx. No one is worshiping these things so I don't see what the problem is. Both of these are engineering marvels. However it is the same group; the Taliban - a bunch of sociopathic, self-righteous, vindictive, violent little boys who haven't grown up. Why would anyone want to return to the 6th century standard of living? The people who built the pyramids did so between 10,500 BC and 9200 BC respectively. I would say they were far more advanced than Muhammad and these jokers are.
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 4:15 pm
Sorry but I just couldn't resist. Isn't a picture worth a thousand words? The face says it all. I'm going to murder everybody because "god" told me I could. Well pal, in Dog I trust and I'm really Sirius about that.
 

pam w. (187)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 4:26 pm
Just THINK about how important they'd be...destroying Egypt's history, economy and world heritage! WOW!

How many virgins would THAT be worth?
 

Tal H. (8)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 5:17 pm
The pyramids are not idols, they're tombs. this guy is mental.
 

Fernanda Ruiz (14)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 6:27 pm
Noted!
 

Marie W. (65)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 9:15 pm
As Beth notes-Egypt's Arabs are not descended from the original Egyptians. They are like the Palestinians- they came much later, after Islam and are ruining the magnificent historical sites they squat on.
 

Sam E M. (0)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 5:49 am
Where will it end? The future of the entire world is in danger when people like this gain power.
 

Carol Dreeszen (368)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 11:33 am
All these people know are destruction..whether it be life or something of value to another culture! There is nothing sane about them!!
 

Phil P. (87)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 1:19 pm
Another nut job arises out of the sands. He advocates destroying the past so the sheep who follow have no history other than what this waste of space expounds. If people choose to follow this ego maniac, let them and let them revert to the 15th century, dry up and wither. But don't spend any of my tax money on these shit heads.
 

Henrik Thorsen (28)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 1:32 pm
I can't even say I'm surprised to hear this.
 

Yvonne Taylor (41)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 2:33 pm
I still have not figured out what the new Egyptian government really is. I heard a lot of rhetoric, but not much on facts yet. This radical is not the Gov. or Pres. there, and seriously doubt the people will go for that, as so many depend on tourism and are not the radicals anyway. I visited there, left just a few days before the riots, and visited many Egyptian sites. The people there were not as radical as you hear all the time I might add. I now have a hard time believing anything the media says, as all I read before
I left was soooo wrong it was amazing. Oh and Beth S..you might want to hit those history books a little better, LOL
 

Allan Yorkowitz (460)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 3:15 pm
I can't add much more than what was well said. The idea of considering destroying your heritage, your history, regardless of your bizarre beliefs is of course moronic. They very thought of letting this happen would be a tragedy for the world.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 6:22 pm
Nothing like shooting yourself in the tourist foot.
 

janet f. (29)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 6:37 pm
These people and their small, useless brains are so f**ked up.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 7:27 pm
Conquering with ignorance is a common theme throughout history and is too apparent in these extremist mental cases. They must be prevented from harming and controlling in any way!
 

june t. (62)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 11:13 pm
the bullies want to sieze power
 

Devon Leonard (54)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 11:52 pm
Extremism and ignorance go hand in hand.... It pains my heart to think of the known knowledge of the world being destroyed when the ancient Romans burned the fabled city and libraries of Alexandrea thousands of years ago.... I can only hope that the world today does not lose these treasures in Egypt.... This is an awful thing.....these bullies.
 

pam w. (187)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 12:03 pm
This is just one of the MANY reasons I'm worried about a Muslim majority in France.

Imagine the Louvre or the D'Orsay in the hands of these THUGS?
 

Madhu Pillai (22)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 2:27 pm
I wonder if these talibans and jihadist ever wake up in the morning and appreciate the beauty of the day, the brilliant sunshine, the delicate flowers gently swaying in the breeze, do they appreciate life given to them, why are they so adamant on destroying,killing,subjugating, their muddled heads filled only with some illiterate mullah's version of koran. Do they ever smile, have they ever heard the word 'peace'.
 

Marie Therese Hanulak (30)
Friday November 16, 2012, 6:19 am
Nothing and no one is safe from those nt cases.
If anything should be destroyed it's their crazy religion.
 

John Gregoire (248)
Friday November 16, 2012, 6:51 am
These extremists preach tolerance and then act in the opposite direction.
 

bob m. (32)
Friday November 16, 2012, 8:09 am

Well..tourism.... let's see...well maybe there could be like "abduls camel palace and excitement with goats"... with cleaned up fine dining to follow;....ahhhhhh " ahabs' backdoor boys appreciation and slavers delight paradise club"...so ride that camel on over soon for the finest in good fun......how bout mos' early pickins in the finest of tender little ladies .. don't forget our 2 fer moonday special.. so bring yer sorry asses down too for variety like you never thought to Aki Barts today... who needs idols eh?.. when you can touch it "LIVE ..and on your menu tonight from MEMPHIS tonight ..it's get away from the old bag ladies fun like you've never think... ......
 

Mike and Janis B. (6)
Friday November 16, 2012, 12:01 pm
These heritage sites are no idols. No one worships them so therefore they are not idols, merely relics of another age. There is NO foundation for this jihadist's pronouncements and therefore any Moslem with sense will disregard this rubbish automatically.
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Friday November 16, 2012, 12:15 pm
Ahhhh!
 

bob m. (32)
Friday November 16, 2012, 12:26 pm


Chooo!
 

Lydia S. (71)
Friday November 16, 2012, 11:58 pm
Mike and janis wrote: "There is NO foundation for this jihadist's pronouncements and therefore any Moslem with sense will disregard this rubbish automatically. "

Jihadist's pronouncements NEVER have a "foundation" ... "any Moslem with sense" is an Oxymoron -- since being muslim requires NO sense -- it requires MINDLESS submission & adherence to a mindless & heartless ideology!

Muslim "Education" consistst of mindless memorization & recitation of the koran! Their poor children spend hours memorizing passages in a language many don't understand. Even many of those educated in the West, just don't "Get it"! That's how complete their brainwashing is! Sad!
 

g d c. (0)
Saturday November 24, 2012, 1:15 pm
hmmm
 

Klaus Peters (8)
Saturday December 8, 2012, 12:46 am
What a sick Muslim world.
 
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