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Islam or Death? Egypt's Christians Targeted By New Terror Group


World  (tags: Egyptian Islamists, Coptic Christians threatened with death, religious rights, human rights, Islamic theocracy )

Beth
- 417 days ago - foxnews.com
According to El Balad, the threats are from a new group in Egypt, Jihad al-Kufr, which translates to Jihad against non-believers or non-Muslims. The group targets non-Muslims, and reportedly pressures them to convert to Islam.



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Beth S. (315)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 1:10 pm

A group of Christian priests from a local Coptic church in Egypt were told to convert to Islam or face death, according to an Arabic news site.

The incident, which comes in the midst of continued persecution and pressure on Egypt’s Christian community, took place this week in the town of Safaga, near the Red Sea, the El Balad site reported.
According to El Balad, the threats are from a new group in Egypt, Jihad al-Kufr, whose name translates to Jihad against non-believers or non-Muslims. The group targets non-Muslims, and reportedly pressures them to convert to Islam.

“It’s not the first time. This is happening every day,” said Adel Guindy, president of Coptic Solidarity and a member of Egypt’s Coptic community who travels between Paris and Cairo. “This one incident caught the attention of the news agencies, but there are worse things happening to the Christians every day in Egypt,” he said.

Christians have felt increasingly at risk since the fall of former President Hosni Mubarak in 2011, which resulted in the rise of President Mohammed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood movement.

“It has definitely worsened under the revolution. Once the worst part of the society surfaced -- the Islamists -- the Copts are paying a heavy price. The West doesn’t really feel our pain. It’s a war of attrition,” Guindy said.

Copts are the largest Christian community in the Middle East, and the most prominent religious minority in the region. Christians make up about 10 percent of Egypt’s 85 million people.

Egypt’s new constitution has come under scrutiny by many for including elements of Sharia, or Islamic law, while simultaneously legitimizing the marginalization of the country’s religious minorities by denying them legal protection. It also granted increased powers to Morsi, who self-declared sweeping powers in a Nov. 22 power grab that prompted heavy international criticism.

The new constitution was ratified after its second referendum in late December, winning more than 70 percent of the vote. Moderate Egyptians took to the streets to protest the rushed ratification, but the demonstrations were quickly quashed.

Some believe members of the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamic extremists, emboldened by the constitution’s passage, have stepped up attacks against Egyptian Christians.

“There was a relative amount of freedom (for Christians) before Egypt’s revolution, and many were hoping for more freedoms, and now things are unfortunately much worse and much more difficult,” said Jason DeMars, founder of Present Truth Ministries, a Christian advocacy group that tracks religious persecution around the world.

“It’s what they’ve always wanted to do, but Mubarak held some of that back because of the support he got from the United States and other Western countries,” DeMars said. “People were paying attention, but now the extremists are seeing this as an opportunity to crack down on the community there.”

Extremists over the weekend set fire to a Christian Church in the Province of Fayoum, the second such assault against the town’s Coptic population in a month. The attackers ripped down the church’s cross and hurled rocks at church members, injuring four people including the priest, according to a report by Morning Star News.

There have also been several reported cases of rape and harassment of Coptic women. Two women in traditional Islamic headdress cut off the hair of two Christian women on the subway in Cairo in December, the Egypt Independent reported. It was the third such incident in two months.

And last week, an Egyptian court forced two Coptic Christian boys, ages 10 and 9, to face trial for “insulting the Koran,” according to reports. The boys were arrested after playing in a pile of trash, which authorities claimed included pages of the Koran.

Egypt's Coptic Christian leader, Pope Tawadros II, spoke openly this month when he dismissed the new constitution as discriminatory.

"We are a part of the soil of this nation and an extension of the pharaohs and their age before Christ,” he told the Associated Press. “Yes, we are a minority in the numerical sense, but we are not a minority when it comes to value, history, interaction and love for our nation."

 

Beth S. (315)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 1:42 pm
"Now where on earth would a group of Muslims get the idea that they should compel people to convert to Islam? I've been watching all of the television specials about Islam, and not one of them says that Islam promotes forcing people to convert. I'm totally confused. If only I could find something in the Muslim sources that would help clear things up.

Sahih Muslim 33—The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah."

 

Roger Garin-michaud (60)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 1:59 pm
nothing new here, it has been going on for 1400 years!
 

Sue Matheson (62)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 3:02 pm
thanks
 

Stan B. (124)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 4:02 pm
I feel so sorry for these people and other religious minorities at the mercy of Islamic madmen in Egypt.
 

pam w. (187)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 5:31 pm
This shouldn't surprise anyone....ISLAM....THE RELIGION OF PEACE AND LOVE has a heart as cold and hard as stone.
 

Patricia Martin (19)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 6:57 pm
Get these poor Copts out of there, before these loony Islamists do the irreversible!
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 7:42 pm
Kill-happy these blood lusters are. The copts need protection. I bet they and a majority of Egyptians probably look back at the Mubarak days as the good old days.
 

Kathy Chadwell (371)
Monday February 25, 2013, 12:50 am
I saw that on the news. These poor souls are damned if they do and damned if they don't. They really do need to escape is the only thing I could see
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Monday February 25, 2013, 2:25 am
Just one more rung on the valiant struggle by Islam to dominate the world whilst Obama does his bit with arms and hand-outs to Egypt and the MB from his own nearly bankrupt land. "Stuff the US homeless and jobless let us help our brothers in faith in Egypt and elsewhere!" goes the dhimmi Democrat refrain.
 

paul m. (93)
Monday February 25, 2013, 5:42 am

Noted..
 

Joy Wong (70)
Monday February 25, 2013, 6:19 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Ro H. (0)
Monday February 25, 2013, 6:39 am
ty
 

Rob and Jay B. (122)
Monday February 25, 2013, 7:59 am
Where is Obama? Silent. If one Qur'an is burned by some nut he and the pro-islam media certainly speak out in condemnation, don't they, but he doesn't seem to care about the ethnic cleansing of Christians his buddies in the Muslim Brotherhood, who he has been helping in their takeovers of the so-called Arab Spring countries (and now in Syria), are doing across the Muslim occupied region, killing, burning, forcing conversions, raping, kidnapping, and driving out tens of thousands of Coptic Christians. Not a peep. What a hypocrite. His silence certainly tells where his true feelings lie.

Where is the protest from the media? Care2? Is it only Muslims who count when it comes to freedom and human rights? Seems so. Shame.

We met a young Coptic Christian couple when we were in London last and had a nice, but sad, chat with them on their fleeing to safety in England from their ancestral home in Egypt due to the persecution they had to endure. The Copts are all that remain of the original Egyptians before the Muslim invasion and occupation of their land, the destruction of their culture and language, just like in every other Muslim conquered and occupied land.

 

Carola May (20)
Monday February 25, 2013, 8:09 am
Where is the outrage??? Fortunately I read recently that Russia is giving asylum to many of these persecuted people. So sad to see them having to finally flee their ancestral home and leave it to these bigoted Muslim conquistadors.

Well, why should anyone be surprised? Morsi said before the election, when he thought he wasn't being recorded, that when he came to power he wanted to lead a new 'Islamic conquest of Egypt' and that the Christians would have to either pay the burdensome Muslim tax on non-Muslims or leave. This is one campaign promise he IS keeping. And the Western world keeps silent, including the church leaders!

I also read recently that it has been estimated that all of these conquered Muslim countries (now) will be totally free of the original peoples and religions and languages within a few years as the ethnic cleansing of them all is happening across the whole Muslim ruled world. But just like the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the 3 million Christians in Ataturk's Turkey in the 1900's the West is turning a blind eye and shrugging its cowardly shoulders, allowing it to happen. The US and NATO will invade to save Muslims but won't lift a finger to save, or even protest, Muslim victims.

Where is the outrage?
 

Gene Jacobson (233)
Monday February 25, 2013, 10:24 am
"Christians have felt increasingly at risk since the fall of former President Hosni Mubarak in 2011, which resulted in the rise of President Mohammed Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood movement."

As well they should, if any group of freaking idiots is free in Morsi's Egypt to threaten them with death for not converting to Islam. If this is what Morsi allows, then how is his "rule" any less onerous for the Egyptian people than Mubarak's? Did the new constitution not include provision's protecting people from other people making terroristic threats as any sane one would? This story is far from over in Egypt. Sadly.
 

Haithem M. (0)
Monday February 25, 2013, 11:33 am
I don't now this news comes from where. I'm a Muslim who lived in Middle East for long time. Islam doesn't allow us to force anyone to convert in Islam. Actually anyone wants to convert to Islam needs to be 100% convinced. Muslim is not allowed to kill anybody "Muslim or not" with no reason or because he is a non Muslim.
Islam tells us that even a smile when you meet with a people is a Charity.
Muslims as Christians، there have a good and bad people. Prisons are full of bad Christians an Muslims. That doesn't make Christianity or Islam, Christians, or muslims bad.
 

Carol D. (98)
Monday February 25, 2013, 12:10 pm
noted Thanks
 

Beth S. (315)
Monday February 25, 2013, 12:36 pm
Well, Haithem, you sound like a good person. Unfortunately, there aren't enough like you. Many people are being slaughtered in a number of countries for not converting to Islam. It's just the reality.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (461)
Monday February 25, 2013, 1:52 pm
I sent a star to Rob and Jay because as I was reading the article, I had the same thought - where is Obama? Let's see how long it takes for Kerry to even make a statement; forget action.
 

A K. (2)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:08 pm
Forcing conversion? Throughout Quran, Muhammad pbuh is told he cannot force people to accept a religion.

Yet [withal, O Prophet,] We have sent thee only as a herald of glad tidings and a warner. (25:56) (Also see 3:45, 79:45, 33:45, etc)

Quran says to "Call to the way of your Lord with wisdom and goodly exhortation, and have disputations with them in the best manner; surely your Lord best knows those who go astray from His path, and He knows best those who follow the right way." (16:125)

Forcing anyone into Islam is against Islam! "There is no compulsion in religion." (2:256)

According to Quran, killing someone who doesn't convert is "whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our messengers came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land." (5:32)

I am writing this because Quran speaks the truth and the truth speaks against what they are doing.
 

Haithem M. (0)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:21 pm
That's not quite true Beth many people are being slaughtered all over the world because of the name of god. Thousendes of Muslims are being slaughtered in Burma and Bosna just because they are a Muslim. A Muslim women is killed only because she was a Muslim. However,now, I live in USA and have many wonderful friends.
criminals don't have a religion. They are just criminals.
 

Ge M. (216)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:32 pm
Haithem, what about the Bhuddists in Thailand who have been beheaded, indluding children? Thousands of Christians in Muslim controlled lands and, recently, 500 in Nigeria. Then there was the attempted genocide in Southern Sudan, the Jews in Israel, 9/11 in the US, 7/7 in the UK and a recent attempt in the UK was foiled. These are just a few examples of the atrocities committed by Muslims in the name of Islam.

The treatment of Muslim women and children by Muslims, paedophilia, acid throwing and cutting off of noses. Over 20 million slaves and more being captured, 3 year old boys from Africa to be camel jockeys and they are raped too. I could continue. The murder of gays, "witches", stoning of raped girls for adultery. A religion full of abusers, haters and little minded control freaks who enjoy what they did and do.

Yes, there are abuses against Muslims, it will happen and I am sorry for them. But they are much fewer than those that happens to non-Muslims and Muslims and are often in revenge. Two wrongs do not make a right.
 

Ge M. (216)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:46 pm
Noor, Muslims are commanded to fight unbelievers until they are either dead, converted to Islam, or in a permanent state of subjugation under Muslim domination. Allowing people of other faiths to live and worship independently of Islamic rule is not an option.

Also, your quote Forcing anyone into Islam is against Islam! "There is no compulsion in religion." (2:256) , often quoted to "prove" that there is no wrong, is a lie and has been superseded, see below.

Qur'an (8:39) - “And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.” Translation from the Noble Quran

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." Suras 9 and 5 are the last "revelations" that Muhammad handed down - hence abrogating what came before, which includes the oft-quoted verse 2:256 -"Let there be no compulsion in religion...".

Qur'an (9:5) "But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them..."

Qur'an (9:11) - (Continued from above) "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion"

Qur'an (2:193) - "And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion be only for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers."

Sahih Muslim (1:33) The Messenger of Allah said: "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay zakat."

Sahih Muslim (19:4294) - "When you meet your enemies who are polytheists (which includes Christians), invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them ... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them" Osama bin Laden echoes this order from his prophet: "Does Islam, or does it not, force people by the power of the sword to submit to its authority corporeally if not spiritually?

Bukhari (8:387) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.'"

Bukhari (53:392) - "While we were in the Mosque, the Prophet came out and said, "Let us go to the Jews" We went out till we reached Bait-ul-Midras. He said to them, "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. So, if anyone amongst you owns some property, he is permitted to sell it, otherwise you should know that the Earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle."

Bukhari (2:24) - "Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Bukhari (60:80) - "The Verse:--'You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.' means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam."

Bukhari (60:40) - "...:And fight them till there is no more affliction (i.e. no more worshiping of others along with Allah)."

Bukhari (59:643) - "Testify that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah, or else I will chop off your neck!"

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 959 - Then the apostle sent Khalid bin Walid… to the Banu al-Harith and ordered him to invite them to Islam three days before he attacked them. If they accepted then he was to accept it from them, and if they declined he was to fight them. So Khalid set out and came to them, and sent out riders in all directions inviting the people to Islam, saying, “If you accept Islam you will be safe.”

Ibn Kathir (Commenting on Quran 2:256, which says "let there be no compulsion in religion") - "Therefore all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or refuses to pay the jizya, they should be fought till they are killed."
 

Ge M. (216)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:46 pm
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.
 

Ge M. (216)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:47 pm
“If non-Muslims submit to conversion or subjugation, this call (da’wah) can be pursued peacefully. If they do not, Muslims are obliged to wage war against them. In Islam, peace requires that non-Muslims submit to the call of Islam, either by converting or by accepting the status of a religious minority (dhimmi) and paying the inmposed tax, jizya. World peace, the final stage of the da’wah is reached only with the conversion or submission of all mankind to Islam.” (Bassam Tibi)
 

Ge M. (216)
Monday February 25, 2013, 4:57 pm
By the way, no-one cares about Christians, especially not Muslims. Note that neither Noor nor Haithem condemned these abuses or murders. One claims it as a fake and the other talks about Muslim murders so it must be OK to abuse non-Muslims.

That is the difference between us who condemn Islam (& not all Muslims) have compassion for any and all who suffer, and the others who attempt to justify these atrocities.
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Monday February 25, 2013, 5:02 pm
I thought and said the Arab Spring was the biggest con job ever foisted on the world next to the Palestinians of course. No one listened. The best thing for the Copts to do is to fight back if and whenever possible.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Monday February 25, 2013, 6:37 pm
Salam Noor. I can understand your confusion. Most Muslims are taught selective Islam, that is, ayat and ahadith which portray Muhammad ans Islam in a positive light. The non-chronological ordering of Suras in the Qur'an only further adds to the confusion. Sura 2 aya 256, Sura 109 aya 6 and the like are all Meccan, that is, early in Islam when Islam was weak as Muhammad only gathered about 150 followers in 13 years preaching Allah. The Islamic calendar is not based on his birth or the beginning of his claim to prophethood but on the hijrah to Medina when the Ansar were willing to be an army for him. And so began the last 10 years of his 23; the first 13 were a failure but the last 10 in which he averaged an event of violence every week for the last 9 years of his life were seccussful in spreading Islam - by the sword. To quote Muhammad in the Sunna "I have been made victorious with TERROR" (Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220). Sahih means authentic, meaning this is an authoritative Sunna teaching. The doctrine of abrogation in Sura 2:106 teaches that later ayat cancel / replace / override earlier ones. Sura 9:5 alone cancels / makes irrelevant all of the peaceful-sounding ayat because Sura 9 was Muhammad final sermon instructing Muslims on how to act towards unbelievers...kill them.

I know this may very well be shocking to you as you realize you've been deceived all your life thinking Muhammad's Islam was peaceful, only to realize that Bin Laden was the most accurate modern day portrayal of Muhammad. The violent Muslims, and those who are (for now) using deceit to conquer America like Hamas-linked CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, and other terrorist Muslim Brotherhood mouthpieces, are the ones who know Islam is about violence, subjugation, oppression, war because someone is non-Muslim, rape, paedophilia, and the remaining vile components of Islam.

Most Muslims don't know they are actuallly against Islam by being genuinely decent human beings. They think that because they are good people and call themselves Muslim that conclusively Islam must be peaceful. The only authority on what a real Muslim is was Muhammad...and he raped, had sex with a little girl, terrorized, degraded girls and women, sucked tongues of boys and men, enslaved and murdered. THAT is real Islam Noor.

Do you wish to continue calling yourself a Muslima? If you do then you must agree with every vile act mentioned above because they are Sunna and Qur'an-based and the Qur'an states in 91 ayat throughout the Qur'an that no Muslim may disagree with any part of the Qur'an or Sunna or they are no longer Muslim. Which will it be Noor? You seem like an individual of conscience. Will you hold true to that and consequently deny Islam OR will you remain a Muslima and agree with rape, torture and murder to advance Islam as that is how Muhammad did?
 

Tommy S. (11)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 12:00 am
@ Noor
quote... I am writing this because Quran speaks the truth and the truth speaks against what they are doing...Unquote

Noor you are of course aware that the quran is a book that makes no sense whatever until aligned with the sira and sunna of your messenger who had people tortured and murdered because of no other reason than that of financial gain or they said something that annoyed him.(remember this is the finest example for muslims to emulate)
How can you possibly believe that this mass murderer,rapist,thief,backstabber and torturer could possibly be a representative of any god -- surely you must realise his behavior as Satanically inspired
 

Rob and Jay B. (122)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 1:08 am
Noor, you are probably a good person and want to think your religion teaches good, but you should learn more about it. Sadly most Muslims have never even read the Qur'an in a language they can understand, let alone the hadith and sirah, which as Tommy said are necessary to understand what the Qur'an says since it is not written in chronological order (even verses are out of order in some surahs) and much of it was lost during the Riddah Wars after Mohammed's death when Muslims were slaughtering each other over who would have the power (strange Allah didn't foresee this and have Mohammed appoint someone, don't you think?), and killing those who thought they could then leave Islam and go back to their faith of choice (because Mohammed and his thugs forced many to convert - he is your perfect example to follow, no?)

Surahs 5 & 9 were the last to be written by Mohammed. The current number one was 92nd to be written, so you see the later Medinan verses, when Mohammed became a warlord, bandit and began forcing conversions by the sword, are much more hateful and violent, and like Rahman said they abrogate/cancel all earlier nicer verses you want to believe in.

If there was 'no compulsion in religion' why did Mohammed have hundreds slaughtered for refusing to accept him and his new religion? It's all in your own texts.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 7:28 am
Beheading is a rather powerful method that Islam uses to get converts, as we had witnessed in the case where 2 Copts in New Jersey were beheaded by a Muslim but nobody dares to discuss it WND reported in September a jihadi writer who has praised the murderer of a Dutch filmmaker suggested beheading as a way of curbing criticism of Islam. The report came from the Muhib Ru’yat al-Rahman, a senior writer of a leading jihadi forum called Shumoukh al-Islam, suggested that Muslims living in Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands and the U.S. kill Westerners who criticize Islam and display their decapitated heads along roads, according to the Jihad and Terrorism Threat Monitor, a unit of the Middle East Media Research Center.

The killing in New Jersey evokes this passage in the Quran: ‘When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!” – Quran 8:12.” (This little gem is supported by the Hadiths part and parcel of the Koran)

All Americans should read the 2-h re-organized by time-line Qur'an ((http://www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf ) , which clearly shows why Islamic teachings of Qur'an and Hadith are incompatible with the US Constitution and with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, just like Nazism and Socialism are, and thus all Islamic organizations should be treated like Nazi or Communist Party in America.

Everybody should also learn about Taqiyya ― Islamic Principle of Lying ( ..to understand how Obama was able to convince 2/3 of American Jews not only to vote for him but work on his election and re-election even though he gives US taxpayers money and access the white hose and F-16 to the sworn enemy of Jews and Israel, his Muslim Brotherhood whose chief, Mohamed Morsi calls Jews the descendents of pigs and apes. Muslims delusional Jew hatred, is rampant all over the Muslim world (including American Muslims), while totally ignored by the politically correct bleeding hearts ("The Sons of Pigs and Apes": Muslim Antisemitism and the Conspiracy of Silence) and Barack Husein Obama.
 

Cousin It Addams (8)
Tuesday February 26, 2013, 2:46 pm
yeah, kathy, they need to escape.

only i wouldn't recommend escaping to new joisey usa because a couple of copts just got beheaded there by one of the mohammedan faithful for the horrible offense of .....being copts
 

bob m. (32)
Friday March 1, 2013, 8:57 am


Ever the beguiling spirit ... I am astonished at the loss of 80 million in The invasion of India by all these smiley faced folks.. I guess they all got donkey trips one way to paradise...
 
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