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8-Yr-Old Afghan Bride Who Was Brutally Killed By Her Mullah Husband On The First Night Of Her Wedding


Society & Culture  (tags: Child bride, Afghanistan, rape, murder, human righs, Mullah )

Beth
- 555 days ago - patdollard.com
This is so very sad.... The 8-years-old girl whose story you'll read in coming lines did not make it to the 2nd night of her wedding nor did she make it to her 9th or 10th birthday.



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Beth S. (334)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 4:25 pm
Excerpted from Mustafa Kazemi

ADVISORY – This article includes information that may be undesirable, discomfort & upset some audiences.

The 8-years-old girl whose story you’ll read in coming lines did not make it to the 2nd night of her wedding nor did she make it to her 9th or 10th birthday.

Her name unknown, my source telephoned me last week at 9:30 pm to tell me her story. At the first I thought it’s just going to be a short conversation but later it was unveiled that the story is different.

The story came from a village in Khashrood district of Nimruz province in Afghanistan.

A medical doctor assigned in the main hospital in Zaranj city, the capital of the province, who wished to remain unnamed confirmed that he was “made aware” of the incident and that it was “too late to do anything for her” as well the “remote area didn’t allow them to do anything”.

The girl was one of the several daughters of a man in his late 30s. For an unknown reason he gave his daughter to the Mullah of their village for a big amount of money. It is also common in Afghanistan’s rural areas or 3rd level provinces/cities to marry young girls to old men, and trading their daughters for their debts or other items.

The mullah is in his late 50s and is the mosque guy of the village where this incident happened.

The mullah is already married and has many children too.
The two families hold a tribal meeting, agree on the price that the groom’s family pay to the bride’s family, and they set a date for wedding.

In rural areas like this here there are no engagements or any ceremonies beforehand like there are some in the metropolitan and urban areas.

The two families planned a wedding party, the wedding and Nekah (The religious process in which a woman is officially married to a man) took place and the 8-years-old bride became the 50-years-old Mullah’s 2nd wife.

The celebration party was over and the sun downed – the time to have sex (not make love) with the 8-years-old bride.

The girl was just 8 years old and everybody understands the fact that she knows nothing about sex or wedding or making love or virginity or sexual related topics; not even at a basic level for two reasons, one being that she’s just a child – not even a teenager and that in that part of the country, nobody knows anything about these things nor they are given trainings or education about a healthy sexual life.

The mullah takes off the bride’s clothes as well as his owns and with apparent so much happiness approaches her for sexual intercourse with the 8-years-old bride.
Because of the Mullah’s huge physique which gave him a big penis, he threw himself on her and started to penetrate the girl’s vagina.

After several tries that led him to failure to penetrate her vagina, the Mullah was frustrated.

He failed because the 8-years-old girl who was about to die was physically thin and had a very tight vagina opening.

Sourced from the Mullah’s animal behavior, *********he took out the sharp knife that he always carried with himself in his pocket and tore apart the girl’s vagina from the clitoris side upwards as well as tore it downwards towards her anus in order to make the vagina larger enough so he can enter his penis into her vagina.*********

Naturally, she started to bleed in a very bad amount, but the mullah was too annoyed for not being able to have sex with her, to care for what he did or her bleeding or her wounds that he gave her.

The girl had her scarf stuffed in her mouth, crying and trying to not raise her voice because others were there in the room adjacent to or outside.

It is a rule in some of the areas in Afghanistan that the groom brings out a piece of cloth that he cleaned his wife’s hymen blood with it as a proof that the girl was virgin.

Mullah entered his penis into the girl’s severely bleeding vagina and had sexual intercourse with her on a blood-covered bed, and then got up and cleaned himself with a cloth.

The girl, who now has lost everything, was bleeding and there was nobody to help her neither could the Mullah ask for help as it was a shame for him and the girl’s family (who were sitting over a cup of tea in the other room, would kill him).

Our 8-years-old bride bled and went into a traumatic shock because of both forced sex as well as severe bleeding. She had lost so much blood, this I can tell for certain.

She bled and bled as herself was in trauma shock until morning and early in the morning around 5 when the sun was about to rise, she passed away.

According to the Mullah, she was pale and her eyes were open when she died. The bed, as he described, was all red with her blood and she was lying in her blood only. No cloth beneath her was recognizable and everything was in dried blood because a whole night had passed on the blood.

She was pale because she had lost all her body’s blood. Her eyes were open as she was shivering when she died and her hands were tied in a praying position, saying her death time prayer.

The Mullah called in the same person and asked him to clean up the mess around and prepare a reason to tell the others for her death. Because the man was a close friend or family of the mullah, he did whatever he could, including every piece of cloth that was bloody.

They wrapped her in a piece of white clothes and called the others that she has passed away.

That morning her family mourned her death in the saddest manner without looking for proper explanation about her death, and then took her to wash her body as a religious ritual.

Because the Mullah had a great influence on the village, none of the women who washed the girl’s body dared to ask or seek the reason for the wounds around her vagina.

By 10 am or so they rallied the now-dead 8-years-old bride to the graveyard and buried her.

Her life ended.

The close friend of mullah, who knew everything, was very upset and shared the story with my source that then called me and told me the story.

Another doctor that I asked in Zaranj said that he wasn’t aware of the case, but he remembers that he used to treat the now-dead bride when she was 4 or 5 years old.

This doctor also asked me to not name him anywhere but only said that he was “deeply saddened that incidents like that still happen in Afghanistan”.

He called it one of the reasons of Afghanistan no going forward: People’s idiocy and uncivilized behaviors and traditions.

This story reached to me was told the exact way as it happened by the Mullah to a very close friend of him after the girl’s dead body was buried. According to the Mullah, he had a “bad conscience” about it.
 

Beth S. (334)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 4:29 pm
This was so sad and appalling to me.

What kind of religion is it that allows the clerics to wed, rape, knife and murder into children to satisfy their lust? And like in Islamic countries all around the world that have no pity, no humanity for girls, this death and hundreds of thousands of others go unquestioned and unpunished.
 

Jo S. (511)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 4:30 pm
OMG, An 8 tear old. This is vile, sick and disgusting!
I'm sorry but he deserves worse than death. I'm speechless!
Thank you, Beth.
Noted & shared with much sadness.
 

Debbie G. (311)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 4:36 pm
This is despicable. I hope not all Afghans are like this, but people like this need to be punished and the despicable practice of child brides should be curbed. Very saddening and disheartening.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (280)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 5:28 pm
SICKENING
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 9:50 pm
Islamic doctrine sanctions raping little Muslim girls (Qur'an 65:4) as "brides". The only error this "man" made according to Islam is penetrating her before age 9. Had he waited one year when she was 9, then he could have cut her open and it would have been fine. Why? Because age 9 was when Muhammad raped his child bride Aisha, when he was 54. That is according to Aisha herself. But, as Islamic doctrine teaches, this Mullah doesn't really have anything to worry about because "Allah is oft forgiving." That translates to mean it isn't so bad in the eyes of Muhammad's Allah.

Debbie G., all Afghans may not be like this but Islamic doctrine causes this. To give an example outside of Afghanistan, "child rape" top the internet searches in the Islamic country of Pakistan.
 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 10:25 pm
My heart bleeds for the suffering that this little girl went through.

No child should suffer this way but I am aware that it is extremely common in Afghanistan. Children are routinely raped, abused, have noses cut off or acid thrown over them. The women fair no better.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Sunday May 19, 2013, 10:42 pm
what a vile cult islam is,how some dumb people can call it a religion is beyond me
 

Joan H. (20)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:00 am
Sickening...how horrible. I hope the mullah will eventually get what he deserves.
 

Stan B. (122)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:24 am
This is one of the saddest, sickest stories I've ever read. What happened to this useless piece of s##t who " had a bad conscience " about what he'd done to this little girl?
Answer: NOTHING because this is what these creatures are allowed to get away with.
I'm lost for words strong enough to condemn this atrocity.
 

James Tait (8)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:37 am
This is sadism at its worst. Is there no moral conscience among Islamists? The behaviour of this ''holy' Mullah .was barbaric in the extreme,but it appears endemic throughout Muslim society. The father of the girl sold her for money and he is just as guilty..The female gender is considered worthless, just human garbage to be used,
abused and thrown away. If the Koran teaches this abhorrent behaviour then it is not a 'bible' than can be accepted as teaching morality.
 

Berny p. (23)
Monday May 20, 2013, 6:53 am



This is sadism at its worst.

Is there no moral conscience among Islamists? The answer is NO!

The behaviour of this ''holy' Mullah .was barbaric in the extreme,but it appears endemic throughout Muslim society.

Women are woth nothing and even their father do not care......ISLAM ...THE CARING RELIGION!
 

Past Member (0)
Monday May 20, 2013, 6:54 am
We never seem to get these disgusting stories about Islam over here Its time we did to show what sort of religion it is and how many of these people we have living amongst us with these dreadful beliefs but everything is gagged here incase it incites hatred
There are plenty of people here who think islam is ok They do not know the full story though
How this sort of thing can be hidden i dont know Its disgusting the stuff with old men and that poor girl the agony she must have gone through Shame on those who keep this stuff a secret and even more those who practice this in the name of religion
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Monday May 20, 2013, 8:18 am
Mohammed did it with, at least Aisha, when he 'married her at age 6, and then raped her when he was also in his 50s and she was a skinny, breastless 9 y/o!

(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4840; Muslim, 1422)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) married ‘Aa’ishah when she was six years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine.”

Note Aisha was only one year older than this poor girl in this horror story. What kind of grown man gets sexually aroused by hairless, breastless little children? Sick ones, that's who.

Here's what an authoritative Muslim sight says about noble Mohammed's having non-vaginal sex with Aisha until she was 9:

'As for the prophet, peace and prayer of Allah be upon him, thighing (Mufa' Khathat) his fiancée Aisha. She was six years of age and he could not have intercourse with her due to her small age. That is why [the prophet] peace and prayer of Allah be upon him placed HIS [MALE] MEMBER BETWEEN HER THIGHS AND MASSAGED IT SOFTLY, as the apostle of Allah had control of his [male] member not like other believers..' (Source: http://www.sout-al-haqe.com/pal/musical/mofakhaza.ram)

Here is the link to the fatwa of Muhammad thighing Aisha:

Islam Q&A (islam-qa.co#22442http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=22442&ln=eng

How can we expect Muslims to come into the modern and civilized world and give up these sick practices when Islam refuses to reform and renounce all the hate and perversions that Mohammed taught and did? Islam says he was the 'perfect man' and tells Muslims to copy his behavior! We should give thanks that many, if not most, Muslims have no idea what and who Mohammed really was and only believe the lies and propaganda the imams tell about him.

What a world!
 

Carola May (20)
Monday May 20, 2013, 8:25 am
No wonder Muslims are working round the clock to silence all exposing of the truth about what Islam teaches and the ugly, perverted and hatefully violent life Mohammed lived. They are pushing for even reading verses of hate and perversion from Islamic scripture to be criminalized (as it is now in 5 EU countries!) - not the hate Islam itself teaches, heaven forbid! But pointing the hate out loud.

And we see how this is succeeding very well with how it has become so Politically Incorrect now to criticize the hate, violence, pedophilia and the life of debauchery, mass murder, pedophilia, banditry and slavery that Mohammed lived. Islam can't tolerate or survive freedom of speech and must silence it.

Look at how many times those who try to even quote hate verses from the Qur'an and condemn them are called the 'haters' - not the verses of hate themselves, nor the imams who preach them.
 

bob m. (32)
Monday May 20, 2013, 9:30 am


sadness clouds my heart... ..
 

Michael Kirkby (86)
Monday May 20, 2013, 12:05 pm
If ever there was a reason for culling the human species here's as good a reason as any.
 

bob m. (32)
Monday May 20, 2013, 12:58 pm

This was NO bride; but a little girl butchered ...murdered.
 

Dave C. (224)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:00 pm
sickening.....all I can say is this is rape and murder.....
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:00 pm
Indeed this was murder by a most bestial man. This Mullah then has pangs of 'conscience'?????????? The beasts of the fields are more spiritual than this low life. How people can support this heinous ideology of Islam is beyond me.
 

Cyrille D. (129)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:05 pm
I'm speechless. Butchery it was, indeed. And you say he had a "bad conscience" about it ? Really ? Just that ? May God forgive him for he has no idea of what suffering and pain this little girl had to go through.
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:13 pm
Utterly depraved & despicable. I guess if you can get away with it you will especially when you are a major fish in this backwater pond.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:45 pm
Can't read it. Noted though. :-((
 

Beth S. (334)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:46 pm
I agree with you, Cyrille (and everyone else commenting here), but I'm not as forgiving as you. I hope God doesn't forgive him, he has made no restitution, but some meager pangs of conscience. No apology to the family. This man is a criminal. He slaughtered this poor girl like one accustomed to slaughtering sheep, but for to satisfy his own lust.

No, I hope the girl's family realizes that this guy deserves to be given very painful reminders of his evil. They are afraid of him because he is a powerful Mullah, Islamic cleric, dispenser of Sharia judgements, expert on Islamic law.

This is sad thing about Islam. So many of the Muslims who REALLY understand Sharia are the biggest abusers of women, girls, non-Muslims, because Islam itself holds females in such low regard. Muhammad, the founder, said that he had a vision of Hell, and it was mostly filled with women.

Utter contempt for women shows itself in thousands of "honor" killings each year, millions of Female Genital Mutilation, the throwing of acid into the faces of girls and women, beating wives because they "talk too much" or dinner didn't taste good enough, stoning of women suspected of adultery, the taking of women as sex slaves -- again allowed by Islam and exemplified by Muhammad.

The people that really understand Islam are also the ones that are trying to kill non-Muslims, because with the exception of the choice of converting to Islam or paying an extortion tax called Jizya to Muslims, this is what they're supposed to do.

This is a sick mentality brought about by a sick religion that has the absolute audacity to lie that it is a religion of peace.
 

bob m. (32)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:53 pm


Joan H. rest assured ...he's on the highway to hell...
 

bob m. (32)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:57 pm


they fear their god the more .. the prince of darkness to whome they swear obediance..
 

Lydia M. (79)
Monday May 20, 2013, 3:58 pm
Noted with thanks.

Brutality in the guise of 'Culture'... Outrageous...
 

Eve L. (58)
Monday May 20, 2013, 4:19 pm
Horrible, I wish I had never read it...
 

Richelle Rausch (43)
Monday May 20, 2013, 4:22 pm
Religion is man made, for the benefit of men, including their favorite thing (their penis). Men created religion. Men have been using it in their favor for centuries. and doing horrific things, often in the name of God. Rape of women and children even occurred before religion. But those holy books gave them more power through fear,violence and hatred. Some men of all religions, beliefs, races and nationalities have abused children, women or even other men.
 

Effie Ligon (57)
Monday May 20, 2013, 4:26 pm
When reading a story like this, it is difficult to not add more hatred to the world. This horrific story; the burning of brides in India when their dowry runs out; child brides in Africa who develop fistulas because they are trying to deliver children of their own at 13 or 14. We have a long way to go to prove we are a mature and civilized race.
 

Janet R. (34)
Monday May 20, 2013, 4:40 pm
I would be overjoyed if I could have the chance to kill this disgusting piece of shit and remove it from the earth.
 

Mashu Pillai (22)
Monday May 20, 2013, 4:56 pm
Too gruesome to read.
 

Marie W. (67)
Monday May 20, 2013, 8:51 pm
Since Mohammed married a 9 year old; Islam is the religion of misogynistic pedophiles.
 

Shawna S. (44)
Monday May 20, 2013, 9:25 pm
This man deserves public castration... as does his "assistant". I am otherwise saddened and speechless .
 

Linda P. (0)
Monday May 20, 2013, 9:47 pm
What a sick culture to sell your 8 year old daughter. My heart aches for that precious life. May the scum that killed her rot in hell.
 

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Monday May 20, 2013, 10:40 pm
Oh my God! The horror! God help the Afghan people. Where is the petition to stop these crimes against children? (n, p, t)
 

caroline s. (79)
Monday May 20, 2013, 10:53 pm
Abominable.
 

Cathe Franklin-Romano (52)
Monday May 20, 2013, 11:59 pm
How much respect for women, can these people have, if this how they treat their 8 year old daughters.
 

ny Defense (0)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 12:16 am
Great Post
 

Lisa D. (21)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 4:08 am
Is this story, just a story? I dont know .. because the horror described in it, to any normal person would be the ultimate worst nightmare any one could imagine, in fact im sure nobody would imagine anything like this.. i hope to god that if it is true, justice will be brought against the murderer and rapist of this little 8 yr old girl

my question is why is this the only place it is mentioned, why didnt they go to the news companies, there are hundreds to chose from, and i think they will have a greater effect than a simple post & petition on this website.
how can there be justice if no names are mentioned?
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 6:12 am
Awful! Children should not be getting married. They should have time to be children and then get married when they are older.
 

Marie Therese Hanulak (30)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 7:08 am
Even wild animals do not stoop that low.
 

Angelene B. (146)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 7:13 am
I don't even know what to say. I'm heart broken and speechless. I feel like I am going to puke.
 

Joanna M. (109)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 7:25 am
How horrific to imagine such things EVER happened, let alone in 2013...
 

AntiTeapublican Progressive News (89)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 8:12 am
I don't know whether to belief this story or not. I checked the site it came from, and it's a right wingnut conspiracy site. I forwarded the story to snopes.com to have them check it.
 

Jude Hand (59)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 12:12 pm
Noted. Just horrible. The Mullah was an idiot and her fater, no better.
 

Beth Tatum (87)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 12:56 pm
That poor child. May she rest in peace. And may the man who murdered her burn in hell.
 

Jamie Clemons (283)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 1:41 pm
Don't move to a muslim country. Don't trust muslim men with your lives. I had two friends who moved away to be with muslim men. I never heard from either of them again.
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 1:41 pm
Absolutely appalling. The poor child. Her father and the Mullah deserve to rot in hell.
 

Nicole W. (3)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 1:53 pm
This is so barbaric - I can't even comprehend this atrocity - she wasn't just murdered but severely tortured first. As much as I try to avoid this kind of upsetting subject matter - it's important for us to see the absolute brutality of such mentalities God Bless all these women. The UN needs to seriously step up to these crimes against humanity.
 

Noni Pavlik (0)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 2:02 pm
If they will do this to their own, what would they do to ours?? Leave the children alone!!!!
I just can't stand it. That poor little girl.
 

Carmen Elisa Bonilla-Jones (1)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 2:15 pm
The Mullah should be castrated with his own knife and left to bleed. There is no excuse for what he did. Her father is no better. Selling off an 8 year old - how could he?
 

Isabelle J. (87)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 2:50 pm
Horrible !
 

Birgit W. (151)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 2:54 pm
First at all the father of this girl is just plain evil. How can you sell your own eight year old daughter to an old dirty jerk. This old geezer should be slowly tortured to death. They should start cutting his penis in tiny little slices first. I am outraged that men can do that to a little innocent girl.
 

S J. (117)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 3:08 pm
So terrible!!! noted sadly, thanks Beth.
 

Charlie Rush (59)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 4:03 pm
Obviously, this is a society, that has not yet reached maturity. Most animal behavior is not that brutal. How do you deal with, or reason with, this type of mentality? Women can't escape if they wanted to.

I'm getting too old for this. Surely, I won't live to see the day, that good morals are accepted by all.
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 4:31 pm
She was NOT a ''bride!"

This was a child used as a sex toy and then discarded!

This is a brutal, disgusting ''culture'' and, in a way, the child was lucky. I hope she didn't suffer.
 

valda p. (13)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 4:50 pm
Poor little girl -what kind of man would -lust after a skinny little breast less child and mutilate her to satisfy his depravity? -a muslim , as they emulate their pedophile --prophet -the messenger the perfect man -Muhammad who consummated his marriage to Aisha at 9-why is this being -tolerated by civilised cultures??
 

marie c. (168)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 4:58 pm
Thanks for posting Beth
Yet more gruesome facts
People must wake up
 

Diana Bair (7)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 6:26 pm
PARENTS ARE MEANT TO LOVE CARE FOR AND PROTECT THEIR BABIES, NOT SALE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. DIANA.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 6:35 pm
Poor child she must have been terrified, her suffering unimaginable. Rest in Peace, Little One.

Yet there are European and American men who will travel to Asia for the shear purpose of paying for and having sex with six year old prostitutes!!! Perverts aren't limited by country. It isn't about religion, it's about supply and demand. We must continue to speak up against sex trafficing. Johns need to be outted and their names/faces made public.
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 6:48 pm
ESPECIALLY when they're wearing priestly robes!
 

Winn Adams (199)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 6:48 pm
There are no words just sadness that this is going on in the world. Is there know one who protects children in that country?
 

bob m. (32)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 7:25 pm


No Gloria .. with respect .. shuffle dances are not popular here ..the two subjects are not the same ... ...stop trafficking and abuse by men agreed. .. but don't say this is not a matter of religion... it IS... and in this case as with millions daily... it is islam...DO YOU HEAR ANY VOICES railing out of islam at this?... any who speak out beyond whispers at this from muslims here or their appologist hordes.. would they shed a drop of sweat to FIGHT against their holy book or their pathetic traditions?...... not a chance!.
 

bob m. (32)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 7:31 pm


What kinda man Vlasta? a man dead in trespasses and sins... a man whose god is his belly.. whose soul is down cast .. who lusts after death ..whose feet run into perdition. who thinks he knows God but really just thinks of himself .. through his penis... only thinking of his own beastly pleasure... what a terrible judgement they face.
 

Barbara V. (51)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 7:49 pm
And DON'T say that this piece of excrement acted like an animal!!!! Good God, what animal would do such a thing--certainly none I know of.. This situation was not only sick, it was gruesome. This horror of a male pig even gets by with this account of rape on a child, and the women of the village don't DARE to mention the obvious place the blood was coming from? There aren't any words for a culture like this that allows one sadistic act after another against females. It is so awful it only proves one thing, and that is how low a so-called human can sink. OMG!!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 8:28 pm
Tell me Beth, do you do any Muslim stories that aren't anti-Muslim, or Israeli stories that aren't pro-Israel?
 

Beth S. (334)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 9:09 pm
Dear Robert,

I originally came to Care2 to sign petitions on animal rights and environmental issues. I happened to take a look around at Care2Causes and noticed some very pro-Islamic pieces as well as many anti-Christian and some anti-Israel pieces. I didn't think much of it till I came back some months later and found a lot more of the same pattern. I started to do some investigating, digging into other sources for the stories and found that, almost without exception, the C2C stories were highly biased and sometimes downright dishonest, let alone manipulative in each of these areas. Gradually I came to the conclusion that Care2 Causes was largely a venue for propaganda, and had a very slick campaign at that.

There were times when I searched and found that the stories presented by some of the writers were actually totally the opposite of the truth, and it seemed to me that there was a pattern of damage control for many Islamic countries and issues, while at the same time trying to demonize Christians and Israel.

So I began to research EVERY story independently and the C2C pattern held almost all of the time, the dishonesty, the manipulation. I spoke out in the columns to the writers and challenged what they said. I copied sources of other articles that indicated that the writers were either spinning highly biased stuff or were walking very close to outright fraud.

Others started to notice this, too, and we connected up with each other and started sharing information, sources, and taking on the some of the more egregious C2C staff, pointing out specifics about what they wrote. Together we talked about how to confront this propaganda campaign. We learned a lot in the meantime, and the more we researched the worse and worse the islamic issues/facts/details became apparent. We became convinced by perusing literally thousands of articles/sources/data, that something was very afoul and needed attention brought to it.

It is very apparent that this propaganda, pro-Islamic slant not only existed in C2C, but is actually very typical of leftist media, academia and politics. If all of our group suddenly started to address the lies of the pro-Islamic/anti-Christian/anti-Israel camps, we would have an overwhelming tsunami of slander and lies to try to address.

A group of us here have dedicated ourselves to getting the truth/other side out, even when it is contradictory to the norms of Care2 and we get attacked for it.

Basically, this is about balance, and truth, most of Care2 readers don't get to hear another side but for what the paid writers say or people post. People deserve to know the facts and the other side of the story, don't you think?

Let me ask you, Robert, did you protest people posting only negative stories about Israel? Did you complain that they were always negative? Are your oft-repeated reactions simply because you don't agree? Do you hold everyone to the same standards?

The reactions of most of the people who read the articles we post about Islam/Christians/Israel are they had no idea. The expressed appreciation to learn something new and different from what they had been fed, that would likely affect them or others. Some people, who disagree, are hostile.

Tell me, Robert, does one HAVE to write only positive things about Muslims or only negative about Israel? Do you feel that we are not allowed to have a different view than many of the posters, writers, the staff? Are we not allowed to tell people about things, that if we didn't share, people would have no idea?

What exactly is the point of bringing up this issue as you do repeatedly? Do you feel yourself to be an arbiter? I'd be really interested to know.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 9:50 pm
@ Robert O. - do you not like Beth or anyone else doing stories exposing Islam or exonerating Israel of the copious slanderous accusations leveled against it? Israel promotes democracy as the only democracy in the Middle east, among all those Muslim countries. Don't you like democracy? If not, there are many Muslim and Communist countries for you to move to. Islam is against democracy because it is pro-Shari'a. If you want Shari'a then move to a Muslim country. If you want democracy then stand with Israel against Islamic supremacism.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 9:59 pm
If Muslims claim this Mullah mutilating her vaginal opening is un-Islamic because Islamic doctrine teaches against mutilating the body, while that it is a teaching in Islam let me point out that the Qur'an forever allows mutilation of the body in Sura 5:33, as it teaches those who "wage war" against Islam (which means resisting it) are worthy of being mutilated through crucifixion and having hands and feet cut off on alternate sides. This also silences any Muslim argument that female genital mutilation is "cultural" and not based on Islam. I guess they show their ignorance about Muhammad's Sunna or conveniently forget that Muhammad said "don't cut too much" instead of not cutting at all. "Too much" was never defined, so there are varying degrees of female genital mutilation across Muslim countries.

This poor little girl denied this scumbag of his "right" to sex so she was causing fitna and mutilation was "warranted". Never mind the fact that she was too little to penetrate and that because SHE WAS A CHILD!!! Just cut open the head of his penis and let him bleed out. That still wouldn't make up for what he did to that poor girl but it would be something.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Tuesday May 21, 2013, 11:07 pm
@ Robert O
quote...Tell me Beth, do you do any Muslim stories that aren't anti-Muslim...Unquote

What a wonderful opportunity you have to show that islam is not a violent death dealing cult as practiced by that abomination (that antithesis to Jesus) who called himself messenger of god and then spent the rest of his life murdering,torturing ,stealing,sanctioning rape and slavery etc., the list of abominations is endless

I would be interested to learn how you would define him and his foul teachings
 

Inge Bjorkman (144)
Wednesday May 22, 2013, 12:01 am
A strange and alien religious stance that all women should be shunned, men too by the way
 

Jennifer Ward (40)
Wednesday May 22, 2013, 2:46 am
two sites confirming source: Afghan Mullah Marries, Kills 8-Year-Old Girl on Wedding Night
http://frontpagemag.com ^ | May 19, 2013 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on Monday, 20 May 2013 2:50:15 AM by lowbridge

This is a pretty horrific story that comes out of Afghanistan. The source for it is Mustafa Kazemi, an Indian war correspondent, who has been operating in Afghanistan since 2010 and has worked for AFP.

Due to the horrific nature of the story, I am only excerpting a few parts of it. If you want to read the rest, you’ll have to follow the link. But keep in mind that child marriages like these are happening all the time, not just in Afghanistan, but increasingly even in Europe.


(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemag.com ...
 

Ge M. (218)
Wednesday May 22, 2013, 4:42 am
Robert, O what is wrong with telling the truth? So many people blame Israel for the suffering of Palestinians yet fail to ignore the history and truth of what actually happened and what is happening to them today in Muslim controlled countries. Tell me, why did you fail to read any of these stories when I put them up? Is it because you are so scared of reading the truth or just scared that your blind support of a "religion" that wants to force both me and mine and you and yours to convert, be killed or forced to live in apartheid whilst paying jizya for the priviledge may actually happen?

As for the good Israel does, you use their research and products every day and I'm sure that you have benefited healthwise either personally or via family/friends. I do know that every country that has a disaster both natural or manmade has benefitted REGARDLESS of religion. They were the ONLY COUNTRY to turn up to help New York and their help was invaluable after 9/11. They help children internationally and offer help to people who suffer such as a Nigerian apostate who had acid thrown over him or children from Muslim controlled countries who need medical help their own countries are incapable of or unable to offer including those from Gaza. The Gazans often return the compliment by sending these people back as suicide bombers. Israel also spends time and money on projects to which they will never receive financial benefit such as improved methods of agriculture to Third World countries suffering from starvation.

Now Robert O, why don't you want to read about any of this? Why don't you want other people to read about any of this? Could it be that the truth hurts? That Israel and Israelis, not all of whom are Jews, are actually good people not doing what you claim? Of course there will be individuals who are not perfect but I have yet to hear about Israel sending in suicide bombers to Gaza, refusing to allow any Palestinians in the land of Israel (well over 1 million of the population are Palestinian, there are around 20,000 Jews in ALL of the Muslim controlled countries in the Middle East) or forced rape, marriage and conversions, burning churches or desecrating religious sites.

 

Ge M. (218)
Wednesday May 22, 2013, 4:48 am
The abuses against this poor little girl are very common in Muslim controlled countries especially in Afghanistan. Islam allows it from the Koran and Mohammed led a life of sexual perversion as well as being a bandit, raping and killing as he went. He then passed captured women around to his supporters.

In fact there are some 20 million slaves in the Muslim controlled countries in the Middle East. More are captured on a regular basis such as 3 or 4 year old boys from Africa to be camel jockeys. They are also sexually abused. Mohammed "objected" to homosexuality but allows sex with prepubescent boys to the extent that 12 are given to martyrs along with the 72 virgins (always missed out).
 

Ruth S. (304)
Wednesday May 22, 2013, 7:09 am
I agree with Richelle Rausch.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 7:32 am
Islamic teachings of Koran (see (www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf‎) condone pedophilia, polygamy, dhimmitude, misogyny and murder for Allahu Akbar, because Mohamed was a pedophile, polygamist, rapist, looter and murder and he is emulated as a role model by 1,500 millions of Muslims worldwide. He married Aisha, one of his 12 wives, when she was 6 y old girl and he was 51 and had sex with her when she was 9 and he was 54. She survived the experience to write about it. She was 19 when Mohamed died at the age of 64.

Islamic teachings are incompatible with US Constitution nd with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and do not belong to any society taht respects liberty, justice and human rights for ALL< particularly for women and children who are severely abused in Muslim majority countries.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday May 25, 2013, 4:27 pm
here is my comment. this disgusting subhuman should die a painful and long death and may the demons come for him
 

Nancy Black (303)
Saturday May 25, 2013, 5:45 pm
Noted, tweeted, shared, tweeted, shared. Sorry, sick, sad, sadistic. This is one of the worst articles I have ever read. It's not culture; it's a total disregard for life and females; no empathy and no belief that females are human or even near equal. This coward should experience the knife also so he could never do what he did to that child to any other victim.
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Wednesday June 5, 2013, 12:13 pm
What the hell!!! No words....
 

Beth S. (334)
Friday February 14, 2014, 1:15 pm
aj K

Do you think your language is becoming of a Muslim who is trying to convey what a wonderful person Muhammad was?

Besides, we do not to who you are addressing. I am going to assume its Vlasta.

If you don't agree with what someone said, you offer proof (citing Qur'anic sources or Hadiths) that are in disagreement. Using thuggish language usually will not convince people unless they are also thugs or Nazi types.

It may be that in your home town, such obscene bravado is impressive. To the 21st century civilized mind, you sound pretty immature and stupid.
 
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