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Muslim Group Monitoring 'Hate Crimes' Loses Funding for Lying


World  (tags: Muslim human rights group caught lying )

Beth
- 494 days ago - clarionproject.org
The number of incidences against Muslims was found to be nowhere near the claims reported by the British group "Tell Mama," which was launched with taxpayer money to monitor "hate crimes" against Muslims, has lost its government grant after being caught



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Beth S. (332)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 6:51 pm
ďTell Mama,Ē a British group launched with taxpayer money to monitor "hate crimes" against Muslims, has lost its government grant after being caught embellishing the truth in order to create the illusion that there was a massive wave of attacks on Muslims in the wake of the Lee Rigby murder.

Although there is no doubt that anti-Islamic feelings spiked in the UK following the brutal slaughter of Drummer Lee Rigby by Islamists, the number of attacks and incidences of intimidation against Muslims was found to be nowhere near the claims reported by ďTell Mama.Ē

The group, which received £375,000 ($587,000) in taxpayersí money in the last year, claimed that after the Woolwich incident there had been a "sustained wave of attacks and intimidation" against British Muslims. However, the group failed to mention that 57 percent of the 212 reports referred to as anti-Muslim activity took place only online and consisted mainly of offensive postings on Twitter and Facebook. Futhermore, not all the online abuse even originated in Britain.

In addition, a full16 percent of the groupís 2012 reports of hate crimes could not be verified. Contrary to the groupís claim of a "cycle of violence" and a "sustained wave of attacks," only 17 of the 212 incidents reported involved the physical targeting of people, and there were no attacks on anyone serious enough to require medical treatment.

ďTell MamaĒ claimed in March that anti-Muslim crime was rising, even though the group had only been in operation at that stage for one year and had no previous figures available for comparison.

The only large force that collects figures on specifically anti-Muslim crime, the Metropolitan Police, reported an 8.5 per cent fall in such crimes between 2009 and 2012.

There was a spike in anti-Muslim incidents after the killing of Drummer Rigby. However, contrary to Tell Mama's claims that it was "unprecedented," the police department's assistant commissioner, Cressida Dick, told MPs last week that it was ďslightly lessĒ than after previous terror attacks. "There has not been such a very big increase in attacks as we might have feared," he said.
 

Sue Matheson (72)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 6:53 pm
thanks
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 6:59 pm
Is anyone actually surprised by this?!
 

Elderberry C. (47)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 7:35 pm
Why do want to promote hatred against muslims? Don't you have anything else to do??
 

Jason S. (57)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 8:05 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Beth S. (332)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 8:14 pm
That's a wonderful question, Elderberry. Thank you for asking. I don't want to "promote hatred against Muslims." I know and like a number of Muslims very much. It is Islam I am very much against as well as Islamists who promote this terrible ideology. Most people have no idea what a violent, hateful ideology it is. Care2 has gone to great lengths to make Muslims out to be victims and Islam a superlative culture(s), one that is held in high esteem, that Western society should emulate. The truth is that Muslims comprise the greatest number of victims of Islam, and Islam has very little, if anything, to offer us. People need to know what we are really dealing with. It is to this end, I and others post articles to counter the lies. Please use this opportunity to learn. I should add that one should NEVER disrespect individual Muslims or hurt them or their property. There are some WONDERFUL people out there who are nominally Muslims, but hate what Islam is and also want to get the message out. I will post some of these stories, too.
 

Stan B. (123)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 9:12 pm
A Muslim group lying. Now there's a surprise!!!
 

pam w. (191)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 10:26 pm
Well--I'm just SHOCKED!

Aren't YOU?

Muslims LYING? To gain SYMPATHY?

NAHHHHHHHHH.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Thursday June 13, 2013, 11:16 pm
Thanks for posting Beth. Let the truth come out, the media hushes this up enough, leaving the general public is under the impression that there are supposed hate crimes committed.

 

Ge M. (218)
Friday June 14, 2013, 5:53 am
Elderberry is missing the whole point but as she is anti-Semitic and pro-Muslim that does not come as any surprise.

Muslims lie in order to make themselves look like victims and to cover the terrible attack on Lee Rigby. No-one is saying that some comments or even leaving some bacon at a mosque didn't happen, but just not in the numbers claimed. It's called telling lies. Each incident is investigated, as it should be, and, where possible, people are arrested and charged. That's the difference.

It is a typical Muslim behaviour such as the planned spontaneous rioting last year on 9/11 to play down the attack on America.

Now do you understand or are you going to call me racist or an Islamophobe for daring to point out the truth?
 

Donna Hamilton (144)
Friday June 14, 2013, 8:32 am
Thanks Beth. This reinforces what I heard previously; a number of fire bomb attacks on Mosques were reported - all the culprits were later revealed to be Muslims.
 

Beth S. (332)
Friday June 14, 2013, 9:07 am
Thanks, Donna. Yes, this is just one more report that documents the consistent and prodigious lying of the Muslims to inflate and manipulate statistics so they can try to look like victims.

Victimhood is a major theme used in the Muslim world to draw attention away from the fact that they are most often the "victimizers".

The Middle East Forum has quite a few statistics in the U.S. on Muslims being "victimized" by torching their own mosques, verbal and physical assaults that were entirely made up, but they were caught in the lies.

Please need to understand this very prevalent tendency and be very skeptical before believing the victimization claims. Unfortunately too many are bamboozled, because they can't fathom that any group could lie so consistently and blatantly.
 

Ira Herson (13)
Friday June 14, 2013, 9:43 am
No surprise here. Sad to say.
 

Gene Jacobson (255)
Friday June 14, 2013, 9:44 am
"The only large force that collects figures on specifically anti-Muslim crime, the Metropolitan Police, reported an 8.5 per cent fall in such crimes between 2009 and 2012. "

Why would anyone be surprised? These are the people that pile up bodies of people they killed and claim Israel did it. Some of those bodies later captured on film walking around in what surely must have been a miraculous resurrection. CAIR is very good at this in America. But pretty quiet on anything that happens elsewhere. But I've been thinking and since we are a secular society here and we keep religion out of government, mostly, why do we have a CAIR, let alone listen to it? Why don't we have a CALR for Lutherans or CACR for Catholics or CABR for Baptists? Why does this hateful religion get so much extra attention here? It is almost as if they have quasi-governmental status. And that should NOT be in this country. For any religion, but most especially for this one that spawns most of the religious violence around the world today.
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Friday June 14, 2013, 10:38 am
Now there's a surprise. Then again; what did Momma expect when Momma Britain is known to have loose skirts and an easy, open purse for any sob story that comes along. No wonder they're in the bowl waiting to be flushed.
 

Mike M. (55)
Friday June 14, 2013, 10:47 am
I would expect nothing less than what they did.
 

Jennifer Bender (5)
Friday June 14, 2013, 11:09 am
I think other people's reactions were more interesting to read on this subject. I can't say that I'm "with" or "against" their statements. The thing is, every group does this. There is always a rotten apple in the bunch. Individual actions often give groups a bad name.
 

jan b. (3)
Friday June 14, 2013, 12:03 pm
When you read that Taliban militants beheaded two children in southern Afghanistan.....it's sickening.
Hundreds of people in eastern Pakistan rampaged through a Christian neighborhood Saturday, torching dozens of homes after hearing reports that a Christian man had committed blasphemy against Islam's prophet (march 2013) But I thought Islam was peaceful.
IA: Fun for the whole familyÖcrowds gather in the public square to view the weekly hangings
In the video they are hanging some of their foreign workers, who appear to be of Indian origin from Bengal. Foreign workers live in slave-like conditions and are often abused by their Saudi employers, including female domestic help.
 

Carol D. (109)
Friday June 14, 2013, 12:03 pm
It does not surprise me Muslims are trying to gain government sympathy all the time What i dont understand if they feel so hated what are they living here for If that was me i would be hot footing it back to the country i came from
 

Billie C. (2)
Friday June 14, 2013, 12:28 pm
they gave the grant to the wrong group. muslims are the aggressors not the other way around. it's time governments stop coddling and covering for them. they can't and won't live with others and we shouldn't be forced to face abuse from people that our governments welcomed into our countries that haven't got a bit of thanks in them. now we are hearing obama is going to bring in thousands of syrians to go with the thousands of hamas. sure is nice of him to bring the terrorists to our doors and let us pay for it.
muslims need to live in muslim lands and we need to live far away from them. let them go back to killing each other as they have done for thousands of years.
 

Jamie Clemons (282)
Friday June 14, 2013, 1:14 pm
Of course it was tax payer funded to promote the idea of a lot of violent behavior going on after the false flag incidents.
 

Aileen P. (34)
Friday June 14, 2013, 2:25 pm
Thank you for posting Beth.
 

Aurea Walker (207)
Friday June 14, 2013, 2:42 pm
Oh no we do not make this a Muslim issue! Shame on the group for purposely LYING is one thing, but considering what our Christian WRONG in America is doing, it really is a case of the pot calling the kettle black! The Roman Catholic hierarchy and their PROTECTING THEIR PEDOPHILE PRIEST? The PRO LIFER CHTISTIANS KILLING, BOMBING abortion providers and clinics. Shoving Christianity down our governments throat as the only real RELIGION. The westboro church allowed to try and disgrace gays, soldiers killed in action and all their craze religous "thinking". The Christian family values group with newt Gingrich as their poster boy? Please, let us not vilify this groups egregious behaviour by vaunting our system to be better it is NOT.
 

janet f. (28)
Friday June 14, 2013, 3:36 pm
Not shocking. But, I'd be pissed off that tax payer monies were spent on this crap. They should take them to court to get every cent back.
 

Paulett Simunich (0)
Friday June 14, 2013, 3:49 pm
Read G.M. comments from beginning to end.......Thank you G.M. for the information. Talk about convoluted thinking...very compelling read.........
 

Debra Tate (17)
Friday June 14, 2013, 4:57 pm
Good! They deserve no funding just to kill off their enemies, US! And the lies will get you nothing! They are all liars when it comes to their causes, they will say anything! And then stab you in the back! I have met quite a few Muslims and would not trust them as far as I could throw them! The have said a lot of scary stuff, like "Death to all Christians"! No thank you! I think we should of closed our borders after 9/11! They come here and want to change our laws! Let them go back to their own country and change the laws there! I know I will probably be crucified for this comment. I have my opinion and you have yours! Have at it!
 

Beth S. (332)
Friday June 14, 2013, 5:03 pm
Aurea Walker,

I'd ask if you were kidding, but I know that you're not. This is a common rejoinder from the Liberal Left (on which a number of issues I agree), but it is a very misinformed rejoinder, a cliche, and ignorant and manipulated. Unfortunately, it is all too common.

I will agree that the people and their actions you've mentioned are highly offensive and indefensible. However, most people, unless they study the issue. In none of these examples you cited is the government paying for an organization that is supposed to accurately and honestly report real incidents of anti-Christian crimes, let alone those the Muslim community have creatively and dishonestly invented.

I would recommend that you pay attention to what we have posted on Islam. If you really had any idea of what's going on in the Muslim world, in just one day, you could not say this in any good conscience. I can friend you to see the kind of things that a number of us post.

On another level, let me just share the last 30 days in the world of Islam, and you can tell me if there's some equivalent Christian set of statistics.

Date................ Country....City.......Killed..Injured...................Description
2013.06.11 Pakistan Karachi 1 2 A targeted shooting attack on three Ahmadi minorities at a bazaar leaves one dead.
2013.06.11 Syria Damascus 14 31 Fourteen people at a public square are ripped apart by Shahid suicide bombers.
2013.06.11 Afghanistan Kabul 17 39 A devout Muslim blows himself up outside a courthouse, taking seventeen other souls with him.
2013.06.11 Pakistan Peshawar 2 1 A doctor is among two Shiites shot to death by Lashkar-e-Jhagvi.
2013.06.10 Iraq Taji 7 25 An al-Qaeda bomb at a fish market leaves seven dead.
2013.06.10 Iraq Sadr City 4 12 Sunnis bomb a cafe popular with Shiites, killing at least four.
2013.06.10 Iraq Mosul 24 114 Five coordinated al-Qaeda bomb blasts leave two dozen people dead and over a hundred more in agony.
2013.06.10 Pakistan Nazimabad 2 0 Sunni extremists murder two Shiites on their way to prayers.
2013.06.10 Pakistan Orangi 1 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba murder a former Sunni for becoming Shia.
2013.06.10 Iraq Jidaidat al-Shatt 15 46 At least fifteen people are exterminated by Mujahideen bomb blasts at a fruit and vegetable market.
2013.06.09 Iraq Baghdad 7 22 A Fedayeen suicide bomber strikes a Shia neighborhood during rush hour, killing seven.
2013.06.09 Pakistan Lyari 2 0 Sectarian Jihadis take out an 8-year-old girl and her father with a grenade at a park.
2013.06.08 Syria Homs 8 10 A child and three woman are among eight civilians killed by an al-Nusra car bomb in a Shia neighborhood.
2013.06.08 Nigeria Maiduguri 13 5 Islamic extremists massacre thirteen civilians with guns hidden in a coffin.
2013.06.07 Iraq Muqdadiyah 12 45 A dozen Shia pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by Sunni car bombers.
2013.06.06 Iraq Taji 7 12 Seven Iraqis are blown to bits by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2013.06.06 Afghanistan Nawzad 7 9 Seven NATO soldiers are killed when a suicide truck bomber detonates inside their base.
2013.06.06 Afghanistan Sar-e Pol 1 15 A civilian bleeds to death following a bomb blast at a hotel.
2013.06.05 Iraq Nukhaib 14 0 Fourteen innocent Shiites are stopped and summarily executed by Sunni gunmen.
2013.06.04 Iraq Hillah 1 0 Jihadis place a bomb in the car of an elementary school teacher, killing him instantly.
2013.06.04 Afghanistan Farah 4 1 Three children and their father are exterminated by Holy Warriors.
2013.06.04 Afghanistan Helmand 3 3 The Taliban murder three local soldiers with a roadside bomb.
2013.06.04 Pakistan Khairpur 1 0 Islamic radicals are suspected of pulling a university employee off a bus and executing him.
2013.06.04 Algeria Djelfa 5 0 A conservative Muslim cleanses his family honor by shooting five members of his niece's lover to death.
2013.06.03 Lebanon Tripoli 4 21 A woman is among four killed during a clash between Sunni and Shia.
2013.06.03 Afghanistan Laghman 7 0 Four children and two women are among a family of seven exterminated by fundamentalist bombers.
2013.06.03 Pakistan Tank 1 1 Islamic militants gun down a man at a market.
2013.06.03 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 53-year-old villager is murdered by Muslim 'separatists' as he is driving home.
2013.06.03 Afghanistan Samkani 12 15 Ten schoolchildren are disassembled by a Holy Warrior suicide bomber at a market
2013.06.03 Pakistan Garhi Habib Ullah 1 0 A woman is forced to recite Quran and then hacked to death with an axe after leaving the house without her husband's permission.
2013.06.03 Kenya Liboi 2 0 al-Shabaab militia murder two Kenyans in their cars.
2013.06.02 Pakistan Sanghar 1 0 A Muslim woman is honor-killed by her step brother on suspicion of illicit relations.
2013.06.02 Syria Jouber 3 3 A Jabhat al-Nusra car bomb leaves three dead.
2013.06.02 Pakistan Sukkor 1 0 Members of a conservative family pitch in to shoot a daughter to death who married without the father's permission.
2013.06.02 Iraq al-Rutba 3 0 Sunni terrorists murder three Syrian truck drivers.
2013.06.02 Yemen Shabwa 9 5 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber sends nine people to paradise.
2013.06.02 Afghanistan Kamdesh 4 4 Four local cops are murdered by a Taliban attack.
2013.06.02 Syria Damascus 9 0 Nine people are reportedly murdered by al-Nusra.
2013.06.01 Yemen Hadramawt 1 0 An al-Qaeda gunmen praises Allah as he shoots a local air force officer to death at a traffic light.
2013.06.01 Afghanistan Khost 3 3 Taliban bombers take out three local cops.
2013.06.01 Niger Niamey 4 10 Mujao Islamists storm a prison and shoot dead three guards and a visitor.
2013.06.01 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba murder a 30-year-old Shiite.
2013.06.01 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A villager is shot to death by suspected 'separatists.'
2013.06.01 Afghanistan Uruzgan 4 0 A child is among four civilians exterminated by fundamentalist bombers.
2013.06.01 Pakistan Pastawana 1 0 Religious extremists gun down a public high school principal in cold blood at his home.
2013.06.01 Thailand Narathiwat 1 6 Muslim 'separatists' spray a group of local soldiers with bullets, killing at least one.
2013.06.01 Afghanistan Barkhol 3 11 The Taliban take out three members of a wedding party with a roadside blast.
2013.05.31 Nigeria Benue 17 12 Fulani 'mercenaries' storm a village market and slaughter seventeen civilians in an attack with sectarian overtones.
2013.05.31 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Sectarian bombers target worshippers leaving a mosque, taking down four.
2013.05.31 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 Taliban militants murder a peace committee member outside his home.
2013.05.31 Myanmar Selayang 2 0 Two Buddhists are beheaded in separate attacks.
2013.05.31 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 A Shia professor and his driver are murdered by Wahhabi rivals.
2013.05.31 Pakistan Nazimabad 3 0 A 14-year-old child is among three Shiites killed during a Sipah-e-Sahaba attack.
2013.05.30 Thailand Narathiwat 1 4 Muslim 'insurgent' attacks against a school headmaster and four others leave one dead.
2013.05.30 Iraq Mosul 3 0 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out three Iraqis.
2013.05.30 Iraq Shaab 6 17 Mujahideen bomb a Shiite commercial district, killing at least six innocents.
2013.05.30 Pakistan Turbat 1 0 A prayer leader is gunned down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.30 Iraq Binouk 5 20 A pair of al-Qaeda car bombs leaves five dead.
2013.05.30 Iraq Baghdad 3 6 Three people at a car parts market are disassembled by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.30 Iraq Baghdad 3 8 Terrorists plant a bomb on a minibus that kills three passengers.
2013.05.30 Iraq Tal Afar 4 8 Four people are taken out by a Shahid suicide car bomber.
2013.05.30 Iraq Karrada 3 16 Three Iraqis are sent to Allah by Muslim terrorists.
2013.05.30 Iraq Azamiyah 4 14 Four people are taken down by al-Qaeda bombers.
2013.05.29 Iraq Baghdad 9 15 Terrorists hit commercial districts with two bombs that leave nine dead.
2013.05.29 Pakistan Karachi 2 0 Two men are shot to death in front of their children, apparently for belonging to a secular-leaning political party.
2013.05.29 Iraq Baqubah 7 11 Seven Iraqis are dismantled by a Mujahideen bomb blast.
2013.05.29 Afghanistan Jalalabad 1 1 A suicide bomber attacks a Red Cross office, killing a guard.
2013.05.29 Libya Benghazi 3 3 Islamists are suspected of tossing a grenade at a checkpoint, killing three soldiers.
2013.05.29 Iraq Baghdad 16 42 Sectarian bombers blow up a wedding party, killing sixteen outright and leaving another forty in agony.
2013.05.29 Iraq Baghdad 12 31 al-Qaeda bombers send a dozen Iraqis to Allah.
2013.05.29 Afghanistan Panjshir 1 0 Six suicide bombers manage to kill one guard in an attack on a governor's office.
2013.05.28 Iraq Sadr City 5 26 Sunnis detonate a shrapnel bomb at a Shia bus stop, taking down at least five civilians.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Lashkar-e-Jhangvi murder a man for being a Shiite.
2013.05.28 Afghanistan Arghistan 7 1 Taliban militants shoot seven local officers in the back after the police invite them in for dinner.
2013.05.28 Afghanistan Baghlan 5 0 Five family members are laid out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2013.05.28 Iraq Tarmiyah 4 8 A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends four Iraqis to Allah.
2013.05.28 Libya Benghazi 1 3 A local soldier is gunned down by radical Islamists.
2013.05.28 Iraq Tikrit 3 2 Three Iraqis are shot to death by al-Qaeda.
2013.05.28 Iraq Mosul 11 2 A suicide bombing is among a series of Mujahid attacks that leave a dozen dead.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Peshawar 2 17 Two people are killed when Sunnis set off a bomb at a Shia mosque.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Karachi 3 0 A man and his two sons, ages 12 and 15, are brutally shot to death by sectarian Jihadis.
2013.05.28 Bahrain Bani Jamra 0 7 Seven police are injured in a brutal shrapnel bomb attack by al-Ashtar Brigades.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Badbher 1 1 Religious extremists fire on a team of polio workers, killing a woman.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Swat 1 5 A teenage boy is killed by a remote-controlled blast set off by Islamic militants.
2013.05.27 Iraq Baladiyat 4 11 A Sunni bomb blast in a Shia neighborhood leaves four dead.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Bannu 1 0 A cleric is gunned down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.27 Iraq Baghdad 5 14 Five civilians bleed to death following an al-Qaeda blast in a commercial area.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Orangi 1 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba terrorists gun down a Shia activist.
2013.05.27 Iraq Madain 3 9 Jihadi car bombers kill three and injure nine.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Shangla 5 0 A powerful bomb planted by radical Sunnis completely dismantles five local cops.
2013.05.27 Iraq Tikrit 2 3 al-Qaeda bomber take down two Iraqis.
2013.05.27 Iraq Sadr City 13 35 Thirteen shoppers are blown to bits by an al-Qaeda bomb at a shopping district.
2013.05.27 Iraq al-Maalif 6 12 Sunni bombers strike a Shiite open air market, killing at least a half dozen patrons.
2013.05.27 Iraq Sabi al-Boor 8 26 al-Qaeda bombers take out eight Iraqis with a bomb planted in a Shia neighborhood.
2013.05.27 Iraq Kazimiyah 4 11 Four Shia waiting for a bus are sent to paradise by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.27 Iraq Shaab 4 9 An al-Qaeda blast leaves four Shia dead.
2013.05.27 Iraq Hurriyah 5 14 Five are killed A Shia neighborhood is bombed by Sunni extremists.
2013.05.27 Iraq Bayaa 6 16 An al-Qaeda bomb planted in a Shia neighborhood leaves six dead.
2013.05.27 Iraq Jisr Diyala 5 12 Five Shiites are obliterated by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.27 Iraq Beaver Ridge WV Canaan 1 2 Terrorists gun down a teacher.
2013.05.27 Lebanon Hermel 3 1 A 17-year-old girl is among three civilians killed in a rocket attack blamed on religious extremists.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A seminary student is kidnapped and murdered by sectarian rivals.
2013.05.27 Thailand Pattani 1 3 One person is killed by a Muslim bomb blast near a school.
2013.05.27 Iraq Sadria 3 11 Three Iraqis are sent to Allah by al-Qaeda bombers.
2013.05.26 Afghanistan Zherook 2 0 A 4-year-old child and her mother bleed to death following a Taliban rocket attack on their home.
2013.05.26 Kenya Abdisugow 6 2 A teacher and a teenage boy are among six people murdered by Islamic militants.
2013.05.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 50-year-old coconut farmer is gunned down by suspected Muslim militants.
2013.05.26 Iraq Baghdad 3 2 Three civilians are shot to death by Jihadi gunmen.
2013.05.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim 'separatists' shoot a 44-year-old woman several times in the chest.
2013.05.26 Iraq Mosul 5 21 Islamic terrorists take out five Iraqis in various attacks.
2013.05.26 Egypt Cairo 1 0 Muslims abduct and kill a 6-year-old Coptic boy.
2013.05.26 Syria Damascus 6 15 A mother and child are among six killed by an al-Nusra car bomb.
2013.05.26 Turkey Ankara 0 1 At least one person is stabbed when Islamists shouting 'Allah Akbar' attack a couple kissing on the subway.
2013.05.26 Pakistan Bannu 6 6 Terrorists kill six security personnel in two attacks.
2013.05.26 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 Mujahideen assassinate a promising soccer player.
2013.05.25 Yemen Hadramawt 2 2 A civilian and a cop bleed to death after al-Qaeda militants throw a grenade at them.
2013.05.25 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 14 Children are among the casualties when a female suicide bomber detonates in a public square.
2013.05.25 Iraq Samarrah 7 21 Seven Shia pilgrims on a bus are sent straight to Allah by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.25 Pakistan Orangi 0 2 Two children are hurt when suspected Taliban throw a bomb into a school yard.
2013.05.25 France Paris 0 1 A soldier is wounded when a Muslim stabs him in the neck in a Paris shopping district.
2013.05.25 Somalia Baidoa 1 14 At least one person is killed by an al-Shabaab blast at a market.
2013.05.25 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 44-year-old civilian is shot to death in his pickup truck by Muslim 'separatists'.
2013.05.24 Yemen al-Thalib 2 0 An al-Qaeda attack on a local security post leaves two soldiers dead.
2013.05.24 Thailand Pattani 5 1 Muslim 'separatists' murder five security personnel with a roadside bomb.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Peshawar 2 3 Two other people are killed when a suicide bomber targets a rival cleric.
2013.05.24 India Tral 3 0 Three Indian troops are killed in an ambush by Hizb-ul-Mujahideen.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Mattani 6 4 Religious radicals take out six local cops with RPGs.
2013.05.24 Afghanistan Kabul 4 4 Fedayeen attack a humanitarian aid office, killing a 6-year-old child and three others.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Landi Kotal 1 1 Religious extremists murder a truck driver.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 Fundamentalists lob a hand grenade into a shop selling Western music, killing the owner.
2013.05.24 Afghanistan Andar 4 0 Four civilians at a mosque are killed when explosives carried by bombers detonate prematurely after the stop off for pre-blast prayer.
2013.05.24 Nigeria Borno 1 0 Members of Boko Haram murder an elderly Christian woman in her home.
2013.05.24 Nigeria Gwoza 2 0 A pastor and a church member are brutally slain by Islamist gunmen.
2013.05.24 Saudi Arabia Taif 1 0 An al-Qaeda prisoner kills a guard trying to save him from a fire.
2013.05.23 Pakistan Quetta 13 16 The Tehreek-i-Taliban "proudly claim" a brutal bombing that leaves over a dozen dead.
2013.05.23 Iraq Taji 4 5 al-Qaeda gunmen murder four local soldiers at a checkpoint.
2013.05.23 Niger Agadez 20 16 Suicide bombers detonate in a local army barracks, killing about twenty others.
2013.05.23 Dagestan Karabudakhkent 2 0 At least two innocent people are killed during a shooting and grenade attack by Islamic militants.
2013.05.23 Niger Arlit 1 13 At least one civilians dies following a Mujao suicide car bombing at a uranium mine.
2013.05.23 Pakistan Sibi 5 2 Fundamentalists are suspected of storming a brothel and killing five people.
2013.05.23 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A young Hindu is shot to death by a Muslim gang.
2013.05.23 Somalia Beledweyne 3 0 al-Shabaab terrorists attack a nomad community that refused to supply them with "payment".
2013.05.23 Egypt Luxor 3 0 A woman and her two daughters are strangled and thrown into a river by seven male relatives concerned about unIslamic behavior.
2013.05.22 Pakistan Sheikh Nala 1 3 A woman is killed when Islamic militants attack and burn four houses.
2013.05.22 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 5 Taliban bombers take out an Afghan civilian
2013.05.22 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A grocery store owner is executed in his shop by Muslim 'insurgents'.
2013.05.22 Kenya Garissa 2 0 al-Shabaab is suspected in the cold-blooded killing of two civilians.
2013.05.22 Pakistan Golimar 1 0 A Shia newspaper vendor is shot to death by Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jamaat.
2013.05.22 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Christian man is gunned down by two men in a targeted attack.
2013.05.22 Afghanistan Helmand 1 3 A motorcyclist is taken out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2013.05.22 Afghanistan Moqur 4 14 A suicide bomber detonates at a busy market, wiping out four bystanders.
2013.05.22 UK London 1 0 An off-duty soldier is hacked to death in the name of Allah by two Muslims.
2013.05.22 Iraq Baghdad 12 0 Seven woman and five men are executed at a brothel by Islamic fundamentalists.
2013.05.21 Afghanistan Herat 7 0 Seven Afghans are exterminated by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A Sunni police officer deliberately kills a fellow officer for being a Shiite.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Pirabad 2 0 A man and wife are shot to death by her family for marrying of their own free will.
2013.05.21 Iraq Abu Ghraib 11 21 Eleven people at a mosque bleed out following a bombing by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Dargai 2 7 Muslim bombers take out two guards at a power station.
2013.05.21 Lebanon Tripoli 11 70 A cleric is among eleven people killed in a sectarian clash between Shia and Sunni.
2013.05.21 Dagestan Buinaksk 1 1 A police officer is gunned down by Islamists.
2013.05.21 Iraq Kirkuk 5 46 Holy warriors send razor-sharp shrapnel into patrons of a cattle market, taking out at least five.
2013.05.21 Iraq Baghdad 6 18 Six people bleed to death when Mujahideen set off a bomb outside a cafe.
2013.05.21 Iraq Tarmiyah 3 7 A suicide bomber snuffs out three other lives.
2013.05.21 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 5 Sunni fundamentalists claim credit for killing two local cops.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Dargai 1 0 A cleric is gunned down in his mosque by suspected terrorists.
2013.05.20 Pakistan Bajour 1 0 Fundamentalists fire on a polio team, killing a guard.
2013.05.20 Iraq Anbar 13 0 Thirteen innocent kidnap victims are brutally executed by religious militants.
2013.05.20 Dagestan Makhachkala 4 44 Four people are killed when Jihadists set off a bomb in front of a courthouse.
2013.05.20 Afghanistan Baghlan 14 11 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders fourteen people.
2013.05.20 Iraq Hillah 9 26 Nine people are cut down by Religion of Peace rivals while leaving a mosque.
2013.05.20 Iraq Basra 13 40 Over a dozen people at a restaurant are taken out in mid-bite by Mujahid bombers.
2013.05.20 Iraq Balad 14 13 Fourteen Shia pilgrims are disassembled by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.20 Iraq Tikrit 2 1 A married couple is laid out when terrorists bomb their car.
2013.05.20 Iraq Baghdad 34 126 Over thirty people are murdered in a series of al-Qaeda bombings in Shiite areas.
2013.05.20 Iraq Baghdad 12 20 A dozen Shiites are torn to shreds by sectarian bombers at a market.
2013.05.20 Iraq Samarrah 8 15 Eight Shia pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by Sunni car bombers.
2013.05.20 Pakistan Tank 1 0 A peace committee activist is shot dead by Muslim terrorists.
2013.05.19 Tunisia Tunis 0 11 Eleven policemen are injured when Salafists throw petrol bombs at them.
2013.05.19 Iraq Rawa 3 2 Islamic 'insurgents' gun down three local cops in cold blood.
2013.05.19 Pakistan Basya Khel 1 5 A bomb targeting children leaves one dead.
2013.05.19 Iraq Haditha 8 0 Al-Qaeda attack a police station and kill eight occupants.
2013.05.19 Pakistan Khushpur 1 3 Angry Muslims fire on a Christian village, killing a teenage student.
2013.05.19 Lebanon Tripoli 2 6 A boy is among two people killed during a sectarian clash between Sunni and Shia.
2013.05.19 Afghanistan Moqor 6 4 Six Afghans lose their lives to a Taliban ambush.
2013.05.19 Iraq Baqubah 2 0 Terrorists kill and man and his wife in their home.
2013.05.19 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 Religious radicals open fire on a group of men playing checkers, killing two.
2013.05.18 Iraq Baghdad 5 0 Mujahideen enter a home and slaughter five family members, including two children ages 8 and 10.
2013.05.18 Iraq Garma 4 0 al-Qaeda gunmen take down four Iraqis.
2013.05.18 Syria Damascus 3 5 Terrorists detonate a car bomb near a school, killing three people.
2013.05.18 Afghanistan Khak-e-Safid 1 0 A local policeman is gunned down in his driveway by Sunni hardliners.
2013.05.18 Iraq Latifiya 5 10 Jihad car bombers take out ten Iraqis.
2013.05.18 Afghanistan Bakwa 4 0 Taliban militants murder four Afghan soldiers with a bomb.
2013.05.18 Thailand Narathiwat 1 4 One person bleeds to death after Muslim 'separatists' bomb a hotel.
2013.05.18 Iraq Basra 1 0 A Shia cleric is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.18 India Kupwara 1 0 Muslim militants from Pakistan shoot an Indian border guard to death.
2013.05.17 Iraq Fallujah 2 8 Terrorists bomb a coffee shop, killing two patrons.
2013.05.17 Iraq Baqubah 43 57 A double bomb attack on a Sunni mosque leaves over forty worshippers dead.
2013.05.17 Iraq Madain 8 25 Eight mourners at a funeral are disassembled by sectarian bombers.
2013.05.17 Egypt Alexandria 1 3 A Copt is killed during an assault by a Muslim bomb on a church.
2013.05.17 Afghanistan Kandahar 9 70 Islamic hardliners bomb a family restaurant, killing nine innocents.
2013.05.17 Pakistan Baz Darrah 21 120 Twenty-one worshippers at two mosques are sent straight to Allah by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.17 Iraq Baghdad 22 57 al-Qaeda bombers take down two dozen Iraqis with three bombs.
2013.05.17 Yemen Mukalla 1 0 A security officer is assassinated by al-Qaeda gunmen on a motorcycle.
2013.05.17 Pakistan Mianwali 2 0 A faith healer and his wife are brutally murdered in their home by suspected fundamentalists.
2013.05.16 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Two truck drivers are shot to death by Muslim extremists.
2013.05.16 Iraq Sadr City 9 16 A 7-year-old child is among nine killed when Sunnis bomb a bus stop in a Shia neighborhood.
2013.05.16 Pakistan Mingora 2 1 A child activist and a peace committee member are shot by the Taliban in targeted attacks.
2013.05.16 Pakistan Matani 5 6 Religious extremists open fire a convoy of local combat engineers, killing five.
2013.05.16 Somalia Gof Gadud 5 10 An al-Shabaab ambush leaves five dead.
2013.05.16 Afghanistan Kabul 15 40 A dedicated Sunni blows himself up in a city street, exterminating fifteen souls, including two children
2013.05.16 Iraq Kamaliya 3 14 Three civilians are laid out by a Mujahideen car bomb at a taxi stand.
2013.05.16 Iraq Kirkuk 12 18 A dozen people are torn to shreds when a suicide bomber self-detonates at a Shia mosque.
2013.05.15 Iraq Kadhimiya 2 9 Two people are taken out by Jihad car bombers.
2013.05.15 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 0 Religion of Peace activists shoot a pastor to death in his home in front of his daughter.
2013.05.15 Iraq Kirkuk 12 23 Two Jihad car bombings leave a dozen Iraqis dead.
2013.05.15 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 0 Two brothers are taken from their home and slain execution style by al-Qaeda.
2013.05.15 Iraq Sadr City 7 33 Sunnis set off three car bombs in Shia neighborhoods, leaving seven dead.
2013.05.15 Iraq Baghdad 14 68 At least five al-Qaeda bombs targeting Shiites leave a dozen dead and many more in agony.
2013.05.15 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim 'insurgents' shoot a 50-year-old villager to death.
2013.05.15 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A suicide bomber kills two Iraqis.
2013.05.14 Syria Raqqa 3 0 Video surfaces of the cold-blooded execution of three captives by al-Nusra Islamists.
2013.05.14 Afghanistan Garmsir 3 7 Children are among the casualties when Sunni radicals set off a motorcycle bomb at a market.
2013.05.14 Iraq Baghdad 12 0 Fundamentalists execute a dozen people at a series of shops selling alcohol.
2013.05.14 Iraq Mosul 1 14 A child is taken out by Mujahid car bombers.
2013.05.14 Iraq Fallujah 2 0 al-Qaeda militants shoot two brothers to death.
2013.05.14 Syria Deir al-Zor 11 0 al-Nusra Islamists summarily execute eleven captives on video while praising Allah.
 

Dianna M. (15)
Friday June 14, 2013, 5:25 pm
Green stars to Elderberry C. and Jennifer Bender for their comments.

I agree especially with Jennifer Bender: Every group has its bad apples. And itís a mistake to condemn the whole group for the actions of a fewófor example, Iím sure there are many Baptists out there who are horrified by the antics of Westboro Baptist Church And as a (lapsed) Catholic, I sure donít condone priest pedophilia, and would hate it if ALL Catholics were blamed.

There are many people in many countries that consider Americans loud and obnoxious. Is this true for all Americans?

Elderberry C. asked a valid question: Is this all you have to do with your time, spreading hate? What, exactly, are you doing to make this world a better place? Are you advocating reaching out, trying to make this group you hate understand you so that they will hate YOU less?

And you, Beth S.óa list of atrocities by Muslims--have you compiled a similar list of American atrocities?

Iíve been writing and re-writing and editing this post for over an hour now, and I really donít know why. If thereís one thing Iíve learned, itís that you canít get along with people who donít want to be gotten along with. This may be true of Muslimsóbut I can tell you that Iíve found this to be true of many of my coworkers, many of my fellow Nebraskans. I seriously doubt that anything I post here will make a difference . . . but it sure wonít make a difference if I donít try.
 

Phyllis Baxter (40)
Friday June 14, 2013, 6:10 pm
Aurea- you cite a few crazy organisations and paedophile priests who acted against the laws of countries ruled by Judea-Christian values.. Do you know that there is no paedophilia in Islamic countries because molesting babies is permitted and girls are married off as you as 6 to full grown men. As for lying- it is sanctioned by Islam. Do look up the meaning of taqiyya, kitman and murana, you will be surprised to find they are recommendations for Muslims to lie to advance Islam.
 

Stan B. (123)
Friday June 14, 2013, 6:56 pm
Sorry Aurea and some others but if your heads were any deeper in the sand, you'd be joining me here in Australia.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Friday June 14, 2013, 10:06 pm
I'm glad this farce is being defunded. I'm not sure if Aurea realizes she is engaging in moral relativism, which means she is trying to justify this Muslim organization's deliberate deception. Anyone who rushes to generalize what Tell Moma did as "not limited to Muslims" is actually supporting what they did. The only response should be to outright condemn them, and all other Muslim organization mouthpieces which lie to disarm the public about the danger of Islam. I've just described all Muslim countries as the OIC repeatedly tries to shut down any critical examination of Islam by spewing lies about Muslim persecution, called Islamophobia, with the specific goals of preventing exposure of Islam. If there is no discussion of Muslims persecuting Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, gays, animals, females in general, and even other Muslims, then the lie that Islam is inherently peaceful can be propagated.

The OIC definition of Islamophobia is anything which paints Islam in a negative light. About half of the things they include are actions of Muslims against non-Muslims. Other acts include things manufactured by Muslims or things Muslims do to themselves in order to cry victim, like vandalizing their own property and claiming a hate crime against Muslims. The remaining things they cite are minor acts. But no one ever checks their claims and the media just parrots them as facts, Why? Because they are self-censoring so as to be avoided being called racist, prejudiced, any all other forms of slander designed to keep people from exposing Islam. It is a good sign that Tell Moma was examined and exposed. There are signs people are getting brave and resisting the expansion of Islam.

For those who are ignorant of Islamic doctrine, and Aurea seems to fit that category, groups like Tell Moma are not aberrations of true Islamic values. They are the standard. Muhammad said it was OK to lie to deceive non-Muslims. There are four forms of lying to non-Muslims in Islam - taqiyya, muruna, kitman, tawriya. Intimidation and bullying of non-Muslims is 100% in accordance with how Muhammad acted. In fact, he took that to the highest level by having his critics murdered, including a nursing mother and an old woman, whom Muslims ripped apart with camels by tying her limbs to them. Muslims have committed such atrocities over Islam's 1400 year history and they continue in Muslim lands today, and even in non-Muslim lands as they expand into them. Honor killings occur in the North America.

So people like Aurea better learn what Islam teaches and what a horrible person Muhammad was before trying to compare vile acts, committed in ADHERENCE to Islam, with vile acts committed in OPPOSITION to Christian and Jewish teachings. Jesus never said to bomb abortion clinics, but Muhammad taught to terrorize non-Muslims (Qur'an 3:151. 8:60, 9:5, 9:29, 9:73, 9:111). So if someone claims to follow the Bible and acts as a pedophile, they are not representing Jesus. But if a Muslim acts as a pedophile, they are emulating their leader Muhammad and his Qur'an. Muhammad raped his child bride Aisha when she was 9 and he 54. She didn't begin menstruating until age 14, per the authentic Muslim sources.
 

Hilary S. (45)
Friday June 14, 2013, 10:23 pm
lying to protect ourselves is certainly not limited to muslims. but religiously sanctioned, deliberate lying in order to take advantage, or to press an advantage over people of other faiths? i don't believe that's so universal. there are many injunctions in all religious texts. and yet when it comes to how we interact with our fellow beings on this planet, we have a choice to act well or badly.
and what about obeying the laws of an adopted country? if we can't manage that, it's up to each person to find a country where the laws are in tune with his/her beliefs and values.
thankyou g.m. and beth s. for providing such a body of information for us to ponder.
 

John J. (0)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 12:17 am
The best promoters of hate against muslims is islam itself and people like elderberry and dianna m refusing to acknowledge this, show their ignorance of islam and lead me to believe that they suffer from the Dunning-Kruger effect.

but then that is why they waffle on with statements like

"Iíve been writing and re-writing and editing this post for over an hour now, and I really donít know why. If thereís one thing Iíve learned, itís that you canít get along with people who donít want to be gotten along with. This may be true of Muslimsóbut I can tell you that Iíve found this to be true of many of my coworkers, many of my fellow Nebraskans. I seriously doubt that anything I post here will make a difference . . . but it sure wonít make a difference if I donít try. "

It is a long time since I have heard anyone claim the length of time it took to come up with an "I'm dhimmi material" offensive statement like that.....perhaps her coworkers are correct and find her lack of knowledge not worth responding to.

What a conundrum this statement poses....." If thereís one thing Iíve learned" .... ROFL

 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 3:38 am
John, I hadn't thought of the Dunning-Kruger effect with people such as Elderberry et al but it certainly makes sense.

For those who have not heard of it this is the best explanation that I have come across.

"the truly incompetent are too incompetent to realize that they're incompetent"
 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 3:47 am
Hilary, I think that the idea of lying in Judeo-Christian religions is actually covered by

Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: Lev. 19.12 for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. (lying on oath)

Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. Ex. 23.1 ∑ Mt. 19.18 ∑ Mk. 10.19 ∑ Lk. 18.20 (lying for gain)

In other words everything that Mohammed said about lying goes against these essential values.
 

Robyn Brice (4)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 4:11 am
Well, I guess the hate crimes are happening right here after reading some of these comments.

It seems that every time the word Muslim is mentioned it brings out the crazier elements. Kind of amusing actually.
Now after this post, I am going to settle back with some popcorn and watch the racists come out to play.
 

Robyn Brice (4)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 4:18 am
Aurea Walker, green star sent.
 

Aurea Walker (207)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 7:23 am
Moral relativism? Really? There are over 1.1 BILLION Muslims in the world so by comments directed at me I must hate them all? I am agnostic and do not care for religion one way or another. But I WILL NOT tar and feather an entire group of people by the acts of some. Yes, the Muslims do commit some heinous crimes in their countries that are abhorrent and indefensible. But ALL religions have done so throught history! You can try and belittle me and that is fine I neither care nor does it faze me one way or another. What I fervently hope for is that we try and unite ourselves as humans and not religous factions. Quite frankly there are no good guys when it comes to religous fanatics of any religion. By the way Rahman, I thank you ever so much for your patronizing and condescending comments to me. It only shows the cut of your jib. So vilify me all you want I take it as a compliment.
 

Inge Bjorkman (143)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 9:04 am
Make Love not Hate
Make Peace not War
Try to Understand
 

Aurea Walker (207)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 10:15 am
Beth S you enumerate a plethora of crimes commited by the islamics, why do you not also do the same for the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis we killed? A war started by a dry drunk born again Christian by the name of George W. Bush? He said and I quote verbatim "god instructed him to do so" cheney the sociopath who has his roots in politics since the days of Nixon was pulling ALL OF GEORGIE PORGIES STRINGS. My nephew left a leg in Irag so please do NOT HAVE THE EFFRONTRY to think I am anti American. But there is no way that you will fool me with what Islam is and yet somehow make Christianity as being perfect. There is as many contradictions within the bible as their is in Islam.
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 10:47 am
There are several hard/fast methods used in an attempt to defend Islam....

1. Deny, deny and deny
2. Insult the other person
3. Try to diffuse Islamic blame by pointing out acts of other religions/cultures.
4. Blame someone else (usually Israel)
5. Repeat.......

Aurea has just demonstrated these tactics.

As an atheist, I'm no fan of religion but Islam is FAR more toxic, brutal, primitive and pervasive than anything else concocted so far. It seeks to control thought, word, artistic expression, personal freedoms and every aspect of government. It's NOT ''just'' a religion--it's a total system of control and, as such, has no problem with lying to the world and presenting itself as being ''victimized.''

Gene asks " Why don't we have a CALR for Lutherans or CACR for Catholics or CABR for Baptists? Why does this hateful religion get so much extra attention here? It is almost as if they have quasi-governmental status.

Interesting questions, Gene......my opinion is that other religions don't NEED to justify and defend themselves because they don't perpetrate the terrors of Islamic ''peace'' on their fellow congregants. Do Lutherans practice deliberate genocide on others? Do Baptists murder other Baptists for the ''crime'' of leaving the religion? Nope! Having an understanding of media power and ''political correctness'' gives Muslim image-makers ideas which have already been effective in Europe. We must be VERY vigilant here.
 

Aurea Walker (207)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 11:39 am
Pam 1. Deny - where do I deny their atrocities? Read again I call them out on it. 2. Insult - Whom am I insulting ? If saying the truth is insulting then that is not an insult, it is the truth. 3. Diffuse - I very clearly condemn all religous zealots. 4. Condemn Israel - where do I say or infer that? I very clearly stated one very pertinent FACT the united? (Not so much anymore) states of America went to war under fraudulent charges of WMD - there weren't any, again fact! 5. Repeat, oh hell yes, Afghanistan and now probably Syria.
 

Marie Therese Hanulak (30)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 12:14 pm
Elderberry C. No one needs to promote hate against muslims, they are doing quite well on their own.

Is there a corner on the planet, is there a country or a state that does not regret letting them in?

The 7th century can not merge with the 21st century.

They had a place of their own, why dien't they stay there. We don't want these archaic religious values imposed on us.
 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 4:39 pm
Aurea, you made the point that other religions committed offences. True but that was some time ago, no other religion currently and actively continues to kill, rape, abuse, forcibly convert non-Muslims as well as their own.

I note that you have never appeared on any story where Muslims are shown in a bad light such as lashing a raped teenager for having sex or where an 8 year old girl is forcibly married to an old paedophile. Where Muslims who have converted to Islam are killed for doing so. Muslim children who have acid thrown over them and their noses cut. Where is is legal to have sex with a young boy?

Benghazi, do you remember Ambassador Stevens who was killed and buggered - rape being a way to show how little you think of your enemy? Perhaps you remember 9/11? And the riots usually timed to cover this event. Fort Hood?

I could continue. These are in the present and solely for religious purposes. I did not support the entry into Iraq, that was for oil. Afghanistan was for Bin Laden, do you remember him? That could have been dealt with better but the Allies have been helping the Afhgnis try to win their freedom back from the Taliban - or doesn't that count?

You claim to be not interested in religion but your racism shouts out loud and clear.
 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 4:48 pm
Dianna, are you really so naive? "Is this all you have to do with your time, spreading hate? How can the truth be spreading hate? What we are doing is explaining the reasoning behind the lies told by this Muslim group. Shouldn't you and elderberry be attacking them for spreading lies or is only an accusation that can be levied against those that give the truth?

As for reaching out to the other side? Do you know what any of us do in the rest of our time? Have you ever looked at stories that I used to bring to care2 regarding the abuses against Muslims only to find that people like yourself and elderberry were conspicuously absent? So, please don't bother to bring your hate and prejudices to those who explain the truth, go away and READ what we have put rather than just complaining about it. If you can understand what is being said then you may think again.

 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 4:50 pm
"the truly incompetent are too incompetent to realize that they're incompetent"
 

Robyn Brice (4)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 5:28 pm
There is no use arguing or trying to make these people see how hateful their comments are. Bigots are bigots and they will continue to rant hateful messages and slogans that the news and the government tell them to.
I choose to keep an open mind and not judge millions of people from different countries and backgrounds simply because a couple of leaders and a media magnate says so. I would rather do my own thinking.
But remember, decades ago it was black people that everyone hated and killed and enslaved because they were *evil*. Jews were persecuted because they were *evil* homosexuals were murdered and locked away in jails and mental institutions because they were sick and *evil*.
Now it's someone else, someone different. Different culture, different language, different way of life. So we hate them. Not because they are evil but because it's easier to tow the line like everyone else. God help anyone that actually might try to find out what Muslims, just ordinary Muslims, not the fundamentalists that the papers and news keeps waving in front of us, but the real Muslims, like my neighbour who lives down the street from me whose kids play with my kids, or a friend of mine who runs a small business and always has time for a chat and a cup of coffee. If you can all, just for a moment, leave the hate behind and get out and meet some of these people, you will see that Muslims are not monsters with fangs and claws but ordinary people who work, raise their families and pay their bills just like us.
Try , just try to open your minds just for a moment and talk to a person of Muslim faith, learn a little more about their culture. Open a dialogue, I did with a wonderful man who I met from Sudan and he taught me a lot about Islam, He was saddened and disgusted by how a few crazies had highjacked his faith and twisted it into something unrecognizable, pretty much like the Christian fundies have done.
If you can open your minds and your hearts maybe all the hatred and ignorance will finally stop. All it takes in one person with an open mind and a desire to change.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 9:34 pm
Donna Hamilton (85)
Friday June 14, 2013, 8:32 am
...This reinforces what I heard previously; a number of fire bomb attacks on Mosques were reported - all the culprits were later revealed to be Muslims.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

That's exactly the problem Donna! Why on EARTH are the media hashing up the truth about self sabotage in an attempt to come across as the victims who have their mosques/schools bombed set on fire?

I often read in the media about these firebombs/arson/etc with a statement along the lines of police are investigating but it looks like hate-crimes committed against Muslims, and then the news item is NEVER followed up with the truth that it was self-sabotage made to take on the look of victim-hood to hate-crimes.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 9:36 pm
oops .. meant hushing NOT hashing .. ha, ha .. but hashing would work too ..
 

Lee Hampton (15)
Saturday June 15, 2013, 10:45 pm


This is an excellent article about a group of Muslims in the U.K. who are being paid by U.K. taxpayers to honestly report on the number of anti-Muslim incidents. Unfortunately, this group has abused the trust it was given, lied multiple times and was quite justifiably terminated. In fact, statistics in other countries point to the same type of phenomenon.

This is an important thing to know. I am grateful that I now know it, and I think others will be, too. It means that we are a little more knowledgeable about this type of scam and will be on the lookout for it elsewhere. It doesnít mean in any way that it is an indictment of all Muslims everywhere.

This is a very legitimate and informative article in its own right and doesnít need validation from the Politically Correct Police and Execution Squad, in this case, Elderberry, Aurea and Robyn, as to its right to be here.
Perhaps the next time our hyper-PC Police group calls an article on John J. Doe who was caught abusing animals a hate piece against John J. Doe, because heís being picked on.

If someone or a group entrusted with public funds LIES and DEFRAUDS the people who pay the bills, people have a right to know about it.

That they are Muslims is no different than if it was a group of football players, or Democrats or Republicans or Environmentalists or Monsanto or whoever.

Should unpleasant articles about groups of people doing dishonest things be kept secret and censored? I donít think so.

Thank you, Beth, for bringing this article to light on C2NN.
 

Beth S. (332)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 12:05 am
BTW, I know and like a number of Muslims personally. I am not a bigot.

Although I unfortunately don't know this man personally, I think he stands head and shoulders above his compatriots:

http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/british-muslim-shocked-to-find-israel-to-be-a-free-country-peace-loving-multi-cultural-and-friendly/
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 6:07 am
@ Aurea - the truth hurts. I guess you didn't like what you saw when I held up the mirror to you arguments.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 7:38 am
@ Robyn - wow, so many errors in what you wrote. Where do I start?

Muhammad was a white-skinned man. Muslims from Pakistan, the UAE and other countries have light and some dark skin. Muslim converts are blacks, white, brown, and any other shade you can think of. So... exactly what "race" are Muslims?

As for hateful comments, do you like sex with children, slavery, sex slavery, torture, terrorism and murder? Or do you hate those things? I really, really hope you hate those things. They are ALL justified by Islamic doctrine. So then if you condemn those things and those who do them, by your standard it would be OK for me and others to call you a "bigot" and accuse you of "ranting hateful messages".

Not all Muslims (thankfully) practice Islam, but the hundreds of millions who do are the ones who practice those things. More and more Muslims of conscience are finding out that Islam teaches those things, and they are leaving Islam. Some who have left Islam have even practiced those vile acts, but were doing so because they genuinely thought they were doing what Allah wanted, thinking that Allah was God, similar to how Saul passionately murdered Christians until he met Jesus and became Paul, being used by God to write 2/3 of the New Testament. His passion to please God was not the problem, the problem was he was not following God when persecuting Christians. There are ex-terrorists who left Islam for Jesus. People who have tried to murder and even murdered for Muhammad, but they later realized they were hurting God after reading the Bible.

"Slogans that the news and government tell them to"? You mean the same media and government which constantly parrots that Islam is a religion of peace, not telling us about the 21,000 terrorist attacks committed just in the last 12 years? The same media and government which went into Islam apologist mode right after the Boston jihad attack? The same media and government which continues to call Ft. Hood workplace violence? The same media and government which parrots the excerpt of Sura 5:32 "he who kills one is like killing all mankind, and he who saves a life is like he saved all mankind" without telling us that is a Jewish teaching, that when applied to Islam only Muslims are considered innocent, that the very next verse Sura 5:33 is the one Muslims are to practice "The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and seek to cause mischief in the land is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land."? You mean that media and government?

Because "a couple of leaders and a media magnate says so"? Not so, because the Qur'an and Muhammad's Sunna says so.

"I would rather do my own thinking." I'd like to see you start that.

"Decades ago it was black people that everyone hated and killed and enslaved because they were *evil*." Everyone killed? How do you account for black people being around to day if "everyone" killed them? Think before you write gross statements. As for the hatred and killing of black people, well we're back to Islam - doctrinally speaking. Muhammad had the most racist attitude towards blacks, calling them the devil and raisin head and teaching that only those with white faces will enter the Islamic heaven. This is why the word in Islam to refer to black people is abeed, meaning slave, and why 120 million Africans were killed as Muslims captured and transported about 150 million Africans through the Trans-Sahara slave trade, cutting off the testicles and penises of the black males and bashing in the brains of the babies of the sex slaves raped by Muslims, trying to eradicate black people and killing about 90% of them during the Trans-Sahara slave trade. This is why slavery continues by Muslims to this date, for example Mauritania having 800,000 black slaves of Muslims. And we learn about all of this from "the news and government", right? I didn't think so.

"Jews were persecuted because they were *evil*." Were persecuted? Jews aren't persecuted today? Are you so ignorant of the fact that Jews remain the number one victims of hate crimes in America? Are you so ignorant of the increasing anti-Jewish perspective in Europe? You think Hitler persecuted Jews all by himself? Aren't you aware of the Mufti of Jerusalem (a high position in Islam) being friends with Hitler, advising Hitler and helping Hitler to kill Jews? You don't know about Hitler's army of up to 250,000 Muslims? Don't you know the distinctive clothing that Jews had to wear came from Islamic history in the 9th century? Don't you know that Islamic doctrine teaches the Jews are considered the worst enemies of Muslims...in the Qur'an which existed about 1400 years before the creation of Israel? Don't you know it is Islamic doctrine that the Jews have to be wiped off the face of the earth for the Muslim Messiah the Madhi / 12th Imam to come? Don't you understand that is why Muslims repeatedly talk of wiping Israel off the map? 10 million Jews have been murdered by Muslims throughout history, but that is not enough for those who practice Muhammad's Islam. They want all of them gone...actually, all the males so they can rape the females, just like Muslims, including Muhammad, did to the Jews of Medina.

If there is once thing I can say about practicing Muslims is that they don't discriminate. They kill Christians (60 million historically), they kill Hindus (80 million historically), they kill Buddhists (10 million historically), and they even kill Muslims, 10 million just since 1948, many more before and many more going on daily as we speak. Muslims kill everyone, including themselves. And we have Muhammad to thank for starting that process.

"God help anyone that actually might try to find out what Muslims, just ordinary Muslims, not the fundamentalists that the papers and news keeps waving in front of us, but the real Muslims, like my neighbour who lives down the street from me whose kids play with my kids, or a friend of mine who runs a small business and always has time for a chat and a cup of coffee." First of all, no one in this forum, including me, said all Muslim are evil. Second, "the real Muslims"? The ones you call "fundamentalists" ARE THE REAL MUSLIMS!!! They are the ones practicing Islam. They are the ones following Muhammad. Don't you know that by genuinely befriending you, your Muslim neighbor and friend are considered apostates according to Sura 5:51? Don't you know they are supposed to view themselves as superior to you and your kids, with the Qur'an teaching in Sura 3:110 that Muslims are the best of peoples, and Christians and Jews are the worst of creatures (Sura 98:6)? At least Jews and Christians get to live as semi-slaves under Muslim rule, but atheists are only given the choice to convert or die. This is how your Muslim neighbor and friend are supposed to view you. But they don't NOT because of Islam, NOT because they consider themselves Muslims, but IN SPITE of those things. More than likely, they don't even know they are supposed to hate you in order to obey their god Allah and Muhammad.

Have you taken the time to consider my name? Does it sound like a Western name to you? Don't you know mine is a Muslim name? And you think you, non-Muslim name Robyn Brice, are going to tell me about Muslims? Half my family is Muslim. The entire family of the Pakistani-born woman I fell in love with is Muslim. I can attest my family and hers are good people. But that is NOT because they are practicing Islam! That is primarily out of ignorance of what Islam teaches. For those who know how vile Islam is, and the ones from Pakistan see the vileness firsthand, they are genuinely good people because the refuse to practice Islam. They are Muslim only in name. And as I keep sharing with more and more of them the vileness of Muhammad and Islam based on the Muslim sources, history and present, they get closer to officially renouncing Islam. So don't tell me about genuinely peaceful people who call themselves Muslims, as if that means they represent Islam. They are considered apostates and, if they renounce Islam in a Muslim country like Pakistan, they would be killed. Some are even killed in non-Muslim countries as Islam expands into the West, and that without even verbally renouncing Islam. Unless a Muslim is lying to non-Muslims, hating others, raping, looting, oppressing, terrorizing, torturing, murdering, or any combination of those, they are - by the Qur'anic and Muhammad definition - not Muslims.

"If you can all, just for a moment, leave the hate behind and get out and meet some of these people, you will see that Muslims are not monsters with fangs and claws but ordinary people who work, raise their families and pay their bills just like us." I addressed this thoroughly. But I also wanted to point out your use of "monsters with fangs and claws" slanderous accusation against myself and others who have commented in this forum to expose Islam. Show me again where any of us said all Muslims are "monsters with fangs and claws". Hmm? Can't find it? I didn't think so.

"Try , just try to open your minds just for a moment and talk to a person of Muslim faith, learn a little more about their culture." A person of Muslim faith is supposed to hate you and, if given the opportunity, kill you. A Muslim male person of faith is allowed to rape you, rape your daughter(s) regardless of her age, kidnap your kids and ransom them back to you. If you want to talk to such faithful Muslims, please go to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt or a whole host of other Muslim countries, stay there a while, and then come back and tell us how it went. For the safety of your kids, I highly recommend you leave them behind. And make sure and kiss them and hug them tight because that is probably the last you will ever see of them. Perhaps you could make it back alive, after being raped, unless you end up in jail for being raped, where most likely you will be raped again for being a "whore." The Muslim women don't fare well under Islam, in their own Muslim countries. Let's see how you'll do among true people "of Muslim faith" where they are free to practice Islam without the constraints of Western women's rights laws.

 

Natasha Salgado (537)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 7:46 am
Not one bit surprised...love the passion in the comments! Thanks Beth
 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 9:07 am
Robyn, you have totally missed out on the ongoing conversation and would like you to show me where anyone of us has said "All Muslims".

What you will see is us condemning the appalling behaviour of the extremists version of it. Those that kill those that convert, that abuse women and children including paedophilia because Mohammed did. There are far too many people and Muslim controlled countries that use Sharia law and oppress those not of their religion. If you read the news in Europe you will see that the police themselves have found that almost all rapes committed there were by Muslims. That Jews have been forced out of most of Sweden as no longer welcome by the immigrants and that an EU minister has warned Jews that they are no longer safe in the Netherlands because of Muslims.

But all of us know work with and are friends of Muslims who are horrified by this behaviour and cannot distance themselves far enough from it. All this means is that anti-Semitism is alive and well and not all of it is committed by Muslims although the majority is. This comes from Husseini who learnt to do so with Hitler. There are many others who abuse Jews and all of my life, and my children's, it has predominately been white people. But in the Middle East during the 1950s, almost all Jews were forced out of their countries where they had lived since before Islam. They have been denied compensation as well as the right of return, you only have to look at the treatment of the son of a Libyan Jew who tried to restore the synagogue after the fall of Gaddhafi when an announcement was made welcoming all Libyans back.

I would point out that Islam teaches Muslims that they should hate Jews, are you aware of that?

Why do Muslims Hate the Jews?
http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/roark/hate_jews.html

Why Muslims Hate Jews to the Bones?
http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=859:why-muslims-hate-jews-to-the-bones&catid=79:mirza&Itemid=58

Then you should look at the countries in the Middle East where the Arab Spring has meant the takeover by the Muslim Brotherhood and the increasing oppression, murders etc of Christians, the return to the marriage of little girls as Sharia law is introduced against the wishes of so many. Try reading about the abuses in Egypt then tell me that this should not be criticized. Note that over 20 million slaves live a life of terror and abuses. Be aware that these countries are amongst the worst in the world for human rights abuses.

Now turn to what is happening in Thailand and the murders of Bhuddists, especially the monks, to the extent that the army has to protect them. Then Africa where the arms given to the Muslim Brotherhood by Obama are being used to kill and abuse African Christians. Yes, in the past some Christians did some terrible things, but that is the past and not to this scale. There are parts of the UK which are now controlled by Muslims and it is not safe for a non-Muslim (& some Muslims) to walk through during the day let alone at night.

That is what we are bringing to people's attention, not the hatred that people like yourself who want to believe that we are bringing. Because you want to show yourself as extremely tolerant you will attack anyone who brings the bad to life. But you are tolerant, you are actually prejudiced against those that speak the truth. Have you actually read and understood anything here?

And as for racism, it is alive and well as people are as prejudiced against blacks and browns as ever and anti-Semitism is growing.
 

Aurea Walker (207)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 9:26 am
@rahman, the truth does not hurt. Had you taken the effort to logically refute the statements I made and responded with hard facts, I would examine them and try to understand others viewpoints. But for further clarity versus emotional responses, please elucidate what or how we should deal with the Islamist jihadists and with Islam? What should we do? Attacking is fine in a war, but to resolve the Islamist challenge worldwide please give detailed, logical thoughts.
 

Alexa R. (333)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 9:59 am
And what are your detailed, logical thoughts Aurea? (I've seen none posted by you on this thread, only visceral attacks from you on other commenters.) You think appeasing extremists/terrorists (overlooking or playing down the atrocities they've done) will get you in their 'good books' and that they just might spare you if they're in a good mood?

Dealing with extremists/terrorists one needs tough love/firmness. Their evil actions need to be strongly condemned and opposed. Pussyfooting around extremists/terrorists is seen by them as a weakness and something to exploit.

I agree with Rahman, your reaction to the truth on this subject is rather peculiar in its illogicality and is probably an indication of you feeling hurt by it.

 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 1:59 pm
@aurea "the truth does not hurt. Had you taken the effort to logically refute the statements I made and responded with hard facts, I would examine them and try to understand others viewpoints."

Wow, what a turnaround! I have provided hard facts and so has Beth, you have totally ignored mine and denigrated Beth's. Or do you only respond to men?

What should be done is to stop the organisations like CAIR with their lies and false information whilst supporting people like Dr Jasser. Extremists/Islamists should be deported for preaching hate and moderates encouraged.

You are now going to call me an Islamophobe for objecting to those who are using their religion as an excuse to either force me to convert, kill me or make me pay jizya to be a second class citizen.

Now, you can offer your suggestions on how to deal with the extremists and their hate?
 

Dianna M. (15)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 4:17 pm
". . . perhaps her coworkers are correct and find her lack of knowledge not worth responding to." Yes, you might be on to something there, they certainly DO find my "lack of knowledge" on the subjects of their avid interest disturbing, since I don't know who's up-and-coming on 'Dancing With The Stars' and could contribute nothing to their hour-long conversations about 'The Bachelor' or 'The Bachelorette' or other similar "reality" TV shows. That my coworkers never bother to find out what I actually think about anything is not even considered by your lofty intellect. That they come to me to help them with their job-related problems but never reciprocate is totally irrelevant to youóI fully expect you to deny that, since you know so much better than I do whatís going on in my life.

Or perhaps--just perhaps!--YOU'RE missing the point, which is that bullies come in all shapes and sizes and religious groups. Oh, no, that can't be it, can it? Because you're so morally superior, that makes you such a good judge of character; you can tell all about me from one post, and all about my coworkers, without ever having met them.

Have YOU ever reached out to someone you disagreed with, to try to convince them of your point of view? And I donít mean insulting their intelligence. If you canít understand the difference, then yesóIíve wasted my time.

I just did try. And when I said, ďIíve written and re-written and edited . . . ď did you take that as a sincere attempt on my part to make myself understood rather than just spewing, John J.óor did you just ridicule? How very ďChristianĒ of you!

Did you ever consider that your automatic reaction to ridicule might be a fault rather than a virtue? That that reaction is EXACTLY what is wrong with not only this country, but the whole world? Which might also explain the hate you say Muslims feel for Christians: Itís hard to love and trust someone who keeps telling you everything you believe is wrong.

Of course not. Youíre too convinced of your own superiority.

I suspect youíre all worthless hating bullies, and Iím wasting my time. Prove me wrong. And in case I havenít explained this clearly enough: Insults wonít convince me. Calling me stupid and/or naÔve is a knee-jerk reaction. PROVING me wrong will take time. And it will be even harderóbecause I stopped listening after the first insult.

Bye.
 

Aurea Walker (207)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 4:29 pm
G.M. You and I have had a prior go round and quite frankly you always go with anti-semitism in everything and you try to make it personal, it is not personal nor is there gender preference. So I guess to appease all so vent on attacking and not coming up WITH SOLUTIONS - I DO SO APOLOGIZE - I AM SORRY TRULY. Go in righteous peace.
 

Robyn Brice (4)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 7:35 pm
G.M and Rahman Qureshi, I don't expect you to understand a thing I said. People like you never do. You revel in your bigotry and ignorance, in fact, you wallow in it.
You have both shown your ugly hatred over and over and sadly, people like you never change. It's easier to spread lies and hate rather than try to actually get your facts straight and open your minds.
Sadly the world is filled with people like you, people who have caused nothing but misery for others.
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 8:24 pm
@ Aurea - "please elucidate what or how we should deal with the Islamist jihadists and with Islam? What should we do? Attacking is fine in a war, but to resolve the Islamist challenge worldwide please give detailed, logical thoughts."

First of all, I appreciate your critically important question. There are many things which are being done and more which need to be done to deal with the problem of Islam on a global scale.

The first victims of Islam are Muslims. They are enslaved by Muhammad's totalitarian system, ,more in the East than West. Even the Qur'an acknowledges in Sura 9:57 that there are those who would leave Islam if given the chance to leave without being killed. The top Islamic cleric in the world, the spiritual leader of the terrorist Muslim Brotherhood Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, stated recently that without the death penalty for leaving Islam, Islam would have folded long ago.

For those who are not physically under the fear of death, they are under the fear of family / community abandonment. Mental slavery is key to Islamic survival.

So how is the word getting out about how evil Islam is? There are many programs online being broadcasted into Muslim countries. The internet is also helpful, though Muslim countries love to block access to anything they deem a threat to Islam. In the West, Muslims are being exposed to revealing info about Islam as more and more are learning the Muslim sources in order to debate Muslims. As Muslims leave Islam in the West, some of them have family in Muslim countries and they reach out to them.

The church is very active in helping Muslims leave Islam, as many who leave do so to follow Jesus. For example, North Africa went from being 2/3 Muslim to 2/3 Christians, despite all of the terrorism perpetuated against Christians. Christianity was born in the Middle East under immense persecution. Christians, collectively, are the most persecuted people on the planet, but under those conditions the church continues to grow. It is true that some Muslims leave Islam and become atheists, primarily I believe due to their trust of God being turned upside down, finding out Muhammad's Allah is a lie, they go to the other extreme and want nothing to do with God.

Part of the education process is of fellow Westerners. Ex-Muslims are very active in this process, as well as other non-Muslim individuals like me. We are in a battle against the media, government and education system as they bow to Islamic supremacism and whitewash Islam, imposing it on everyday Americans and other Westerns as a religion of peace. Instrumental in propagating that "islam is peace" lie are groups like Hamas-linked CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, and a whole host of other terrorist front groups. There are different ones in various western countries but all serve the same purpose of advancing Islam through misrepresenting is as peaceful and using our own media, government and education system as tools to censor criticism of Islam. The word "islamophobia" was invented by terrorists (Hamas, I believe) and is effectively being used on unsuspecting Westerners to get them to self-censor and censor others who want critical examination of Islam and speak out to that effect. Western nations want to be liked and don't want to be called bigoted, prejudiced or any other such word. The problem is Westerns are being conditioned that to examine Islam critically makes one all of those terms. To any sensible person, that makes no sense. But ignorance of Islamic teaching prevents some people from speaking out against Islam because they don't know the Muslim sources in order to counter Islamic propaganda. Even not knowing the sources, just observing the behavior of truly devout Muslims as they lie, terrorize, rape and murder is enough for some Westerners to speak out against Islam. We are not told by our leaders about the over 21,000 terrorist attacks by Muslims worldwide, just in the last 12 years, not because that information is unknowable, but people have been conditioned to fear Islam and feel that if we don't talk about it critically then devout Muslims would leave us alone. That is wishful thinking and is dangerous because a passive approach in dealing with Islam has always led to being destroyed by it. The United States, as a new nation, was paying up to 20% of the federal budget in jizya to Muslims. Eventually the USA had enough and formed military forces to blast Muslim terrorists back to the 7th century. The Hymn of the Marines contains "to the shores of Tripoli." That is where we were fighting jihadists who were attacking our ships. This gave the US breathing room to develop as a nation, but then we got lax and let Islam get strong again, particularly since the 80's.

We need to expose Islamic doctrine among everyday people. Eventually our leaders will have to take notice and start defending us from Islam instead of disarming us through denial and enforcing self-censorship concerning the criticism of Islam. Seeing how Muslims riot and murder over what they deem as insults to Muhammad and Islam, people have become fearful to not say anything that would upset Muslims. That tactic of intimidation is based on Muhammad, the bully and warlord he was. But Islam will not relent in its goal of imposing Islam worldwide, especially in the most powerful nation on the planet the USA. If the USA falls, then that is the end of free speech. If the USA self-censors and enforces Shari'a by attacking those who criticize Islam, then that is the end of free speech. We are slowly getting there, with the US Government and Tennessee Attorney General holding a meeting to discuss prosecuting those who express outrage over Islam as somehow violating the civil right of Muslims. Notice - of Muslims - not of anyone else. Islamic teaching is that Muslims are superior to everyone else (Sura 3:110), and they will push to make that the reality.

On a global scale, the OIC (united voting block of Muslim countries in the UN) keeps pushing to make criticism of Islam illegal, just as it is in Muslim countries. We need to expose the OIC and its agenda. if you wonder why the world is becoming more and more anti-Israel it is because of Muslim propaganda. People accept as gospel whatever Muslims say and don't even want to hear Israel's side. Even more, there is no Jewish side in Islam. 'Jews got to go' is the only position of practicing Muslims.

Considering the stealth and physical jihad coming from all sides, it may seem a daunting task to combat it. But there is no other option than for Westerners to get brave and speak out against Islam. Muhammad needs to be exposed for the raping, child molesting, slavery-endorsing, sex slavery promoting, stealing, torturing, terrorizing, murderous warlord that he was. It is all there in the Muslim sources. The Muslim clerics know these facts and they hide it from the genuinely peaceful Muslims. Why? If they told them the truth then many Muslims would leave Islam. So they deceive even Muslims. That is how vile Islam is. I have to educate Muslims about Islam before I can destroy its hold on them. Muslims, even from Muslim countries and others who have been Muslim their whole lives, are among those clueless about the vile and disgusting teachings in the Qur'an and Muhammad's Sunna (teachings of Ali for Shi'ites). I want to free Muslims from Islam.

There are ex-terrorists leaving Islam for Jesus. They end up being some of the most outspoken people against Islam. They just need to see the errors in Islam. To terrorists, the obvious moral deviancy in Islam isn't something to convince them to leave because that is what they practice thinking they are serving God. Many leave after reading the Bible. Many leave after experiencing the love of Jesus.

The bottom line is we need everyone who values their freedom, whether Christian, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, etc. to speak out against Islam. When the masses show they can't be duped anymore about the true nature of Islam, the media, government and education system would have to start giving the people what they want.

I ask you to join in this effort, Aurea.
 

Aurea Walker (207)
Sunday June 16, 2013, 10:20 pm
Rahman, I am on YOUR SIDE. And if I could I would gladly send you a 1000 STARS! Your eloquent, incisive and intelligent post is what is needed. Not just for me but for all. That is why I said we must unite as humans first. What offends me to the core of my soul is when we start attacking each other and make it a lose/lose proposition. I want a better world for all and am all to cognizant that I am but a small grain of sand in the vast desert of life.
 

Ge M. (218)
Monday June 17, 2013, 12:51 am
Aurea, not only do I mention anti-Semitism which, sadly, I have had to know about, but I also mention attacks on Christians as well as other non-Muslims and Muslims. Yet you pick out just the anti-#Semitism, why?

You accuse us of many things yet when we offer what you ask for you ignore it. Why? You want us to offer solutions yet when I did you ignored them. Why?

Now you are going to say this is a personal attack but when asked a question you either ignore it or complain of something. Why?
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Monday June 17, 2013, 10:44 am
Oh My Gosh!!! Imagine that! Muslims lying!!! No surprise here!!!
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Monday June 17, 2013, 11:34 pm
@ Aurea - thank you so much for your positive response to what I wrote. I am humbled by your kind words.

I do agree that we must unite based on common decency and be respectful of others. Jesus taught to treat others the way we'd like to be treated, meaning with kindness. We must unite against evil. There are many forms of evil, but the one which is advancing the most rapidly is Islam. Though there are differences amongst Christians, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, etc., we must unite based on what we have in common, which is the desire to be free. Hitler was a threat to that. Communism was and is a threat to that. However, Islam is the biggest threat, intent on expanding into our own backyards, and it is becoming successful in that...but won't complete its mission if people like you and I and others speak out and take action legally to stop it. At least 4 states in the USA have adopted recent legislation to prevent foreign laws from being considered in American courts when the laws conflict. These are anti-Shari'a / Islamic law measures in disguise. For now, they can't mention Islam specifically so no one can accuse the laws of targeting Muslims. Even though the laws don't mention Islam, isn't it interesting that out of all foreign groups in the USA, the ones who challenge the laws are groups like Hamas-linked CAIR? They know it is designed to stop Shari'a in the USA, and they want Shari'a in the entire world. The Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Egypt, which sadly the USA helped, is bent on establishing Shari'a. Secular Turkey is having Islam forced down their throats as Erdogan is trying to make that country more Islamic, and he is attacking his own people to do it. Where ever you see Shari'a being implemented and implemented, you see silencing free speech; you see violence, rape, torture and murder. Why? The essence of Shari'a / Islamic law is the Qur'an and Muhammad, both violent.

Aurea, though you are an individual you are more powerful than a grain of sand. Grains of sand make up sand sculptures. Grains of sand make up an entire beach. Grains of sand make up entire deserts and beaches. There is power in numbers. Entire movements for good start with one man. Look at what Martin Luther King Jr. accomplished through motivating others. Look at other positive world leaders. Yes, Islam is united in the goal of imposing Shari'a law on this whole world, even against the will of secular Muslims. But we can also be united to stop it. Please don't be discouraged. You can be very instrumental in a better world for all. We can win this battle against Muhammad's ideology called Islam.

What Westerners need to get over is the fear of labels. Though as kids we learned about sticks and stones and words, as adults we forgot about the "words will never hurt me" part. As such, we are being victimized by sticks and stones, both figuratively and literally as the USA has suffered small scale and large scale attacks like 9/11, Ft. Hood, and Boston. There have been about 40 attacks averted by law enforcement. What we've experienced as a nation is what got through, but we were meant by terrorists to experience much, much more destruction. Even Boston, for example, could have been prevented, but the FBI is prohibited by our government from considering Islam as a motive for terrorism. They can't consider Qur'anic teaching like Sura 3:151 "We soon shall strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers..." and Muhammad in Sahih al-Bukhari, the most authoritative source in (Sunni) Islam after the Qur'an, saying "I've been made victorious with terror." If those who are supposed to investigate terrorism can't consider the doctrine of terrorism as the motive which inspires Muslims to commit terrorism, then we are headed for more disaster. We need to speak out about such insanity. Sura 5:32 in the Qur'an is always thrust upon the unsuspecting public to make them feel Islam is not a threat. That is the verse about 'taking a life is like killing all mankind and saving one like saving all'. If Americans and other Westerners and even peaceful Muslims knew the very next verse which authorizes Muslims to murder others for resisting Islam, then that alone would be a powerful turning point from the whitewashing of Islam to the exposure of it. But we win by winning little battles. Each time someone understands how dangerous, vile and evil Islam is, they understand the actions of violent Muslims worldwide, and they become resistant to Islamic propaganda.

I will provide you with some powerful online resources to further educate yourself and to share with others:

www.TheReligionOfPeace.com

www.JihadWatch.org

www.PoliticalIslam.com (contains free books to read online)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wugWj42pLI (critical video on Islam which needs to be taught to everyone)

www.YouTube.com/LegOfAllah2 (native Arabic speaker Christian Prince exposing Islam)

www.AnsweringMuslims.com

www.FaithFreedom.Org

www.Shoebat.com (ex-Muslim terrorist turned activist to expose Islam)

www.Anti-Cair-Net.org

themuslimissue.wordpress.com

Aurea, I highlighted a few of the sites above but they are all good and will provide you with a solid foundation. Remember, you don't need to learn everything to speak out. There are tools like these sites which do the burden of the work. There are more and more people who want to speak out against Islam but feel they are alone. When they know they are not the only grain of sand and discover the many people already speaking out, they get encouraged and validated.

God bless,

Rahman
 

John J. (0)
Tuesday June 18, 2013, 8:10 am
@ Robyn
" He was saddened and disgusted by how a few crazies had highjacked his faith and twisted it into something unrecognizable"
Never have I read such uninformed nonsense -- a muslim that does not think muhammed was the best example for mankind to emulate - that's a huge porky and in islamic terms it's called dawa for the gullible -

BTW ... Your depth of knowledge on these matters is conspicuous by its absence -- Dunning Kruger-- reigns supreme
 
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