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Gays Will Be Barred: Gulf States to Introduce Medical Testing on Travellers to 'Detect' Gay People and Stop Them From Entering


Society & Culture  (tags: Gays, Gay Ban by Arab Gulf Countries, Medical Tests for Gays )

Beth
- 323 days ago - dailymail.co.uk
A medical test being developed by Kuwait will be used to 'detect' homosexuals and prevent them from entering the country - or any of the Gulf Cooperation Countries (GCC), according to a Kuwaiti government official. GCC member countries - Bahrain, Kuwait,



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Beth S. (323)
Saturday October 12, 2013, 11:04 pm
He told Kuwait newspaper Al Rai: ‘Health centres conduct the routine medical check to assess the health of the expatriates when they come into the GCC countries. However, we will take stricter measures that will help us detect gays who will be then barred from entering Kuwait or any of the GCC member states.’

Richard Lane, from gay rights campaign group Stonewall, said: ‘These proposals are not only futile but contrary to international human rights law. Many Gulf states have gone to great lengths to market themselves as open for international business. Their leaders should think long and hard about putting forward measures to restrict freedom of movement and further prohibit the best talent from doing business in the region simply because of their sexual orientation.'

Those taking part in homosexual acts in Kuwait, if they’re under 21, can receive a jail sentence of up to 10 years.

Earlier this month Oman newspaper The Week was suspended over an article that was deemed to be sympathetic to homosexuals, according to the BBC.

It’s illegal to be gay in 78 countries, with lesbianism banned in 49. Five countries mete out the death penalty to gay people – Iran, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Yemen and Mauritania.

WHERE HOMOSEXUALITY IS PUNISHED BY DEATH

Iran: Since 1979, the government has executed more than 4,000 people charged with homosexual acts. A non-adult who engages in consensual sodomy is subject to a punishment of 74 lashes.

Saudi Arabia: Although the maximum punishment for homosexuality is execution, the government tends to use other punishments - such as fines, prison sentences, and whipping - unless it feels that homosexuals have challenged state authority by engaging in social movements.

Sudan: For homosexual men, lashes are given for the first offence, with the death penalty following the third offence. 100 lashes are given to unmarried women who engage in homosexual acts.For lesbian women, stoning and thousands of lashes are the penalty for the first offence. Today, the issue has divided some religious communities. In 2006, Abraham Mayom Athiaan, a bishop in South Sudan, led a split from the Episcopal Church of Sudan for what he regarded as a failure by the church leadership to condemn homosexuality sufficiently strongly.

Yemen: Homosexuality is still illegal in Yemen in accordance to the country's Shari'ah legal system. Punishment ranges from flogging to death.

Mauritania: The Shari'a law applies in Mauritania. The penal code states that, since 1983,any adult Muslim caught engaging in an 'unnatural act' with a member of the same sex is punishable with the death sentence by public stoning.
 

Danuta Watola (1196)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 1:36 am
noted
 

AniMae Chi (402)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:40 am
These countries are a disgrace to humanity!
They should incorporate modern psychological testing to prove their own ignorance & insanity.

 

Madhu Pillai (22)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 1:44 pm
Noted
 

Carol D. (109)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:16 pm
since when did any of these countries care about human rights anyway
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:18 pm
I shutter to think of this.

How about having a test for child abusers instead...I suppose that would be asking too much to prosecute perveyors of child brides.
 

Stan B. (124)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 2:33 pm
They seem to be getting madder by the day.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 5:26 pm
We should all boycott Kuwait.
 

Helen Porter (40)
Sunday October 13, 2013, 11:46 pm
What!

You gotta be kidding.

There's a test to confirm if they are gay?

If so, that would simply prove they were born that way
and it's natural.

When I was young, many and many a year ago, the old folks used to shake their heads
and murmur, "What is the world coming to."

If they had had any idea of what it has come to,
they would have been up and stomping.

I wasn't even allowed to wear lipstick.
 

Frances Darcy (218)
Monday October 14, 2013, 3:45 am
shocking I agree with CUDec T ..
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Monday October 14, 2013, 9:07 am
You comment on the Nobel Prize winners, then read this garbage.
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Monday October 14, 2013, 9:55 am
So why would anyone with half a brain and a conscience want to enter one of these countries.
 

kate k g (472)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:29 pm
I agree with my friend AniMae. Disgrace to humanity :-(
 

Jeaneen A. (128)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:36 pm
This is insane! How can you tell if someone is gay or not, we all have the same blood, human. People are getting crazier by the day
 

Gloria picchetti (287)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:45 pm
I thought the article was about Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida.
 

Janice P. (5)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:46 pm
How utterly ridiculous.
 

Louise D. (38)
Monday October 14, 2013, 1:03 pm
So I wonder how they are going to figure out who is gay. I suspect that they will use the idea that most gay men can be easily identified as the best dressed males in the room, and their uncanny ability to color coordinate. This stereotype includes admitting that, like blacks, they are also usually the best dancers at any club. Continuing in this vein of innuendo, if a man can see the colors fuchsia, periwinkle, chartreuse, or identify more than three shades of white there is a 98.74539475% chance he is gay. Of course anyone that believes that is definitely a 100% dick head. This is just the most stupid thing but then this type of homophobia is just a symptom of increasingly stupid ideas.
 

Shanti S. (0)
Monday October 14, 2013, 2:02 pm
Thank you.
 

Beth S. (323)
Monday October 14, 2013, 5:47 pm
Louise, I wonder, too.

If there is some natural blood marker that indicates gays -- I doubt it -- but I sure would have grave doubts that Arabs would be the ones to discover it. Apparently there have been some reported anomalies in brain structure, but again, if this is true, it begs the question that Allah created these people this way, so why would he have something against a certain group of people who he presumably created. This is a difficulty I have with Judeo-Christian religions, too.

The one big difference there, though is that the ACT is the issue, not the proclivity.

I saw an article that had me in tears about what both Sunnis and Shia are doing to gays in Iraq. They are literally gluing their anuses together, filling them up water and food against their will until their stomachs explode and then dousing them with gasoline and setting these poor Iraqi gays on fire. This what the NAZIS did to Jews and others.

God forbid Islam ever takes hold in the West.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Monday October 14, 2013, 7:49 pm
In 2020, the World Cup Soccer Games are intended to be held in Qatar. Which is one of the GCC - the Gulf Cooperation Countries. Which are going to be instituting these "tests".
From Seattle Gay News:
'Yousouf Mindkar, director of public health at the Kuwait health ministry, said that routine clinical screening of foreigners coming into the GCC will include tests to identify LGBT people, who will then be banned from entering the country......
Mindkar did not specify how applicants for entry into Kuwait [and the other GCC venues] would be "tested", but in other countries, such so-called "medical tests" have involved intrusive and humiliating rectal examinations.'
This means, that ANYONE entering Qatar, which is building a huge soccer stadium in anticipation of the World Cup, can be subjected to those tests, both Athletes and fans...

Which, as you can see, would DISCOURAGE ANY SOCCER PLAYER who wants to play in the World Cup, or wants his TEAM to compete in the World Cup, from "coming out" if he was Gay.... or even from "coming out" as a Gay Ally.
There is obviously NO known test, rectal or otherwise, to "identify" Gay People.
Most people KNOW this.
The POINT is, the HUMILIATION that "suspected Gays" would be subjected to.
Rectally or otherwise.

DON'T READ THE NEWS SO LITERALLY, PEOPLE!!!!!!

The people potentially subjected to "rectal exams", that they will fail anyway, are:
ANYBODY who in their Home Country, has Publicly identified as Gay.
Or anyone who has PUBLICLY identified as a Gay Ally.
Or, anyone who walks into Gulf Co-operation Countries wearing a Rainbow Pin, or other object screaming "I am Gay!"
[Could be a Rainbow Flag, a Gay Pride sticker, face paint or makeup, a feather boa with a pair of shorts, etc. Or if their Gender presentation doesn't match their passport I.D.]
These people WILL BE DISCOURAGED FROM GOING TO GCC EVENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE. Which is, OF COURSE, the VERY SUCCESSFUL POINT of the law!!!

These laws can PUT A BLIGHT ON THE ENTIRE ATHLETIC COMMUNITY.
Athletes ready to "Come Out", as so many of them are starting to do, will NO LONGER feel ready to "Come Out", as it would hurt their ENTIRE TEAM'S CHANCES of competing in ANY future games to be held in the GCC! And their Coaches and Sponsors will discourage this...

Oh, scream away about how you'll boycott the GCC countries.
These people are EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY, and EXTREMELY, RICH.
They are small populations of what USED to be desert tribes and Gulf traders and fishermen.
The OIL BOOM MADE THEM EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY WEALTHY.
They don't WANT or need, YOUR puny tourist dollars! "Chump change", to them!
Their clientele is the ELITE EXTREMELY RICH, like themselves, worldwide!

FIFA which controls the World Cup Soccer, is of course EXTREMELY CORRUPT to locate the World Cup in such a nasty place...
GAY SOCCER PLAYERS AND ALL THEIR SYMPATHIZERS, ARE JUST PLAIN SCREWED....
And the GCC is LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK...
[They ALSO get A TON OF MONEY from the U.S. Military... that's from US, the U.S. taxpayers... because they are our MILITARY ALLIES... and that U.S. aid is in turn, USED TO BUY U.S. MILITARY CONTRACTORS' PRODUCTS.... a Sweetheart Deal if there ever was one!
So, puny little "boycott" or not, YOUR TAXPAYERS MONEY IS FLOWING LIKE BLOOD, INTO THE GCC..... and WILL, in the foreseeable future, unless you STOP THE MILITARY from giving these wealthy guys MORE of YOUR money...]
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Monday October 14, 2013, 8:00 pm
Businesses, of course, doing business in the GCC - which is a VERY LUCRATIVE place, as the people there are INSANELY WEALTHY, among the Wealthiest in the ENTIRE WORLD... so ALL the Big Names, the High-Tech and High-Fashion people, WANT to do business with those countries...
All the BUSINESS PEOPLE, will be DISCOURAGED from "Coming Out" as being LGBT or LGBT Allies.

All the MOVIE PEOPLE and CELEBRITIES, who like to GO WHERE THE MONEY IS, will be DISCOURAGED from "Coming Out" as Gay or as Gay sympathizers.
Just the THREAT of those invasive, humiliating RECTAL EXAMINATIONS, will be ENOUGH.

So, you see, folks, THOSE RECTAL EXAMS DO WORK in keeping Gays out of the GCC!!!
They work, just not in the silly LITERAL interpretation!

ONLY CLOSET GAYS will even TRY to enter those countries - and only those under DEEPEST COVER.
Not anyone who has ever written an article or letter approving of Gays, for example.
Yes, THESE wealthy countries can use SURVEILLANCE, ALSO!

The President won't appoint known Gay Ambassadors or State Department people there...
Oh, what you can GET AWAY WITH if you're small, lacking population, but are FILTHY RICH...!
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Monday October 14, 2013, 8:09 pm
The GCC, the Gulf Cooperation Countries ["GCC countries" is redundant, that's "Gulf Cooperation Countries countries!"], these are as follows:
Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates.

According, again, to Seattle Gay News:
"The GCC will meet in November to decide whether all its member states should follow Kuwait's lead."

THESE are wealthy countries, theocracies, ruled by Royal Families [dictatorships], and pets of the U.S. Military, which regards them as "Allies"... and gives them Military AID, [as if they needed it!], to ensure their closeness as DEPENDABLE ALLIES....
 

Dale O. (193)
Monday October 14, 2013, 8:47 pm
Some people really need to get a life when it comes to bigotry against gay people, this is outrageous. And the same goes for some attitudes in the western world, just read a story where a man was assaulted for being gay.
It was terrible as his spinal cord was severed and he is now paralyzed. Canada has many laws protecting rights of gay people, marriage is legal and various churches marry gay couples but even here there are problems.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/nova-scotia-gay-man-attacked-violent-assaults-based-201455286.html


Is anyone else having problems as I am wondering what is going on in Care2 tonight, I can't even get into the news section via the Causes home page, the only way I got in was via my home email using a green star notice from an old news story that I had commented in and then reached Offbeat from there.

There are pages in the Causes section on articles with hundreds of comments where only ten comments are showing up and people can't see the earlier comments.

For example regarding other technical glitches, I can't send personal messages as names are not showing up and other people are saying they can't reach their profile page but I was able to find theirs yet they can't even see it.

I cannot see any of my butterfly points which are normally at the top of the page or find my groups or even send e-cards (was able to send them this afternoon) and many other things going on.

It is a long weekend so I guess things will get back to normal on Tuesday.
 

Jeanne Rogers (711)
Monday October 14, 2013, 9:02 pm
WTF! This is so absurd! Who would even want to go there? Simply heinous.
 

Ganaisha Calvin (6)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 1:15 am
thanks for sharing
 

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 12:46 pm
This is insane, and to think that our tax dollars are going to the wealthy thugs in Kuwait and the Gulf Cooperation Companies sets my teeth on edge! Thank you for the news and for reminding us about our tax dollars going to these monsters, BMutiny. We need to inundate our representatives and the President with petitions demanding that they to stop supporting these countries. In addition, we have to get off of their dirty oil in order to stop funding those evil creatures.
 

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 12:58 pm
Thank you again. I wanted to add that I posted the link on Facebook and tweeted about it as well. I noted the article, but I don't know if it is counted as my account has a bug.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 1:06 pm
Totally insane! I guess one way to cooperate with those countries would be to stop any form of business or trade with them completely!! Let them sink in their inhumane thinking process! See how far the $$$$ will take them then! But when we have the so called leader in this country that we do, who is a hypocrite, he has no guts to stand up to any of those countries! He will support them even knowing that he would be among the list of those refused entry!
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 3:11 pm
It's frightening to consider what "medical testibg" even means.
 

Dan(iel)) M. (24)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 6:51 am
Thanks for posting Steve.
What a sham for these backward countries.
 

Winn Adams (191)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 7:01 am
This is totally crazy. How are they going to determine who is or isn't gay???????
 

ewoud k. (73)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 2:31 pm
From another era.

Thanks for posting Beth!
 

ewoud k. (73)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 2:34 pm
But, between us, WHO wants to go there?

Which question in no way excuses this old-fashioned way of limiting entries.
 

Angelene B. (143)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 10:46 pm
Omg :(
 

Beth S. (323)
Thursday October 17, 2013, 9:52 am
It's an excellent question, Ewoud.

What has been happening is that because the Gulf Oil States are so incomprehensibly rich, and money brings prestige and power, virtually everyone wants to do business with them. But it's more than that.

Arab countries generally have not produced much in the way of goods historically. Now that they have the money, they just buy things other countries have to work very hard for. With the focus of the citizens in those countries on Islamic Wahabist studies and exporting their world/religious view everywhere they can, they have little else to offer besides these things.

They have no standing in the scientific world or anywhere else. These countries see tiny, struggling little Israel sweep up Nobel Prizes and put their collective brain power to work to create huge advances in the fields of medicine, technology, environment and so forth.

The Gulf oil states feels an intense sense of inferiority and a deept cognitive dissonance, because their prophet told them that Arabs are the greatest race in the world. So they feel the need to compete somehow to save face, and saving face is an extremely important element in the Arab/Muslim psyche.

So what do they do? They HOST meetings for prestigious scientific associations, showering the attendees with all sorts of goodies only the obscenely rich can buy and proffer propaganda about Islamic superiority.

The Saudis, for example, are building quite a large scientific institution, and will purchase the equipment, supplies, technology and salaries that most scientists wouldn't even dream of. This is an attempt to lure top scientific minds to Saudi sand in the hopes that these (foreign) scientists will publish papers in top notch peer-reviewed scientific journals, thereby giving the Saudis the opportunity to say that top-rate scientific research is being done and published in Saudi Arabia, and then let the implicit inference sink into the minds of those who do not know better, that the Saudis themselves have accomplished/owned these feats they are basically incapable of performing.

 

Ben B. (39)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 12:52 am
I wonder how they plan to test for homosexuality? Do they mean compulsory blood tests to determine if people have HIV? If the latter, then they're perpetuating the myth that HIV was a gay disease, G-d's punishment for gays etc, which many countries were guilty of when HIV was first identified in the early 1980's. Either way, where Sharia law is State law, the country is inevitably and implacably homophobic, partly because where Sharia is implemented it is very conservatively interpreted.

Well written Beth S, I agree with AniMai and Carol D too.
 

Jan L. (553)
Saturday October 26, 2013, 3:55 am
Boycott all these countries and kick them out of all international organizations!
 

Pamela W. (75)
Saturday October 26, 2013, 1:34 pm
Noted and thank-you to Beth !!! The mind boggles on the "HOW?" question .... I could hazard a few guesses, but this is no laughing matter (so I won't) !!!!!
 

Bill K. (0)
Wednesday November 6, 2013, 4:11 am
Illinois just passed gay marriage. YAY!
 
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