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Jerusalem: King Solomon's Wall Excavated (VIDEO)


Science & Tech  (tags: Biblical archaeology, Jerusalem, King Solomon's wall, King David, excavations, match with bible, discovery )

Beth
- 119 days ago - youtube.com
This is one of the most exciting places on earth, with a half a million visitors a year, people from all over the world come to this place and for the first time understand what they are reading in the Biblical text matches the archaeology in the ground.



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Beth S. (317)
Monday March 24, 2014, 8:47 am
Very interesting video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=VH9ZDHUyu7A

"Then Hiram, King of Tyre, sent messengers to King David, and cedar trees and carpenters and masons, and they built David a house (II Samuel 5:11)

3,000 years ago, the entire city of Jerusalem fit on this 12-acre hill. Here you can see part of the wall built by Nehemiah, the water tunnel dug by King Hezekiah, and the Pool of Siloam, where Jesus healed a blind man. This is the City of David.

This is one of the most exciting places on earth, with a half a million visitors a year, people from all over the world come to this place and for the first time understand what they are reading in the biblical text matches the archaeology in the ground.

The City of David is more than just a tourist attraction; it’s also a live archaeological dig. The Bible says this is where King David built his palace, and one archaeologist, Dr. Eilat Mazar, says she’s found it……
 

Brad Hunter (23)
Monday March 24, 2014, 8:53 am
thanks
 

Helen Porter (41)
Monday March 24, 2014, 12:44 pm
Many believe King Solomon with his magick compelled the demons as slaves to build the temple.
 

Jamie Clemons (280)
Monday March 24, 2014, 1:37 pm
"Figurines typical of tenth-century B.C. Jerusalem—including four-legged animals and large-breasted women likely symbolizing fertility—were also uncovered" Goddess figures. Asherah for whom it is documented that Solomon built a temple and inscriptions have been found on jars dating back to the time of Solomon saying that Asherah was the consort of Yahweh. Maybe they will find the temple of Asherah wouldn't that throw a burr under the bible thumpers.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:11 pm
Incredible, doesn't screatch the surface-thank you Beth.
 

Shirley H. (49)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:20 pm
Fascinating video. Thank you so much for the History of King Solomon & King David.
 

Eleonora Oldani (43)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:35 pm

Amazing how important the (Christian) bible suddenly becomes for Jewish people it it serves to prove ... what exactly?!

More important even ... how come this comment in the Jewish Bulletin of 1998 is so completely ignored and omitted?!:

"Recent archeological digs have provided evidence that Jerusalem was a big and fortified city already in 1800 BCE...Findings show that the sophisticated water system heretofor attributed to the conquering Israelites pre-dated them by eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than imagined...Dr. Ronny Reich, who directed the excavation along with Eli Shuikrun, said the entire system was built as a single complex by Canaanites in the Middle Bronze Period, around 1800 BCE." The Jewish Bulletin, July 31st, 1998"

These excavations where also done by Jewish Israelis but it seems they had no agenda to follow other than connecting and hopefully explaining a highly interesting history.

We should not loose sight of the fact that Jerusalem was built and inhabited by the Jebusites until the Israelites came, massacred and/or expelled them and took possession of what was not theirs in the first place ...

History seems to repeat itself over and over again.
 

Beth S. (317)
Monday March 24, 2014, 2:54 pm
Yeah, we're going to have to have a special assembly in the UN for the poor Jebusites. They must have been the true Palestinians, along with the Phillistines.

Yeah, the Israelites just wanted a teeny sliver of land out of the landmass of today's world. But the Muslims want and are in the process of taking the whole world, so let's feel sorry for them. The Muslims are always the victims.

If it was any other population that came in like populations all over the world, it would be okay. But the Jews, absolutely not. We have different standards for them. They can never do anything right.

 

Muriel Servaege (38)
Monday March 24, 2014, 3:35 pm
Thank you, Beth. Your video is really fascinating.
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Monday March 24, 2014, 3:40 pm
Thank you,
 

Eleonora Oldani (43)
Monday March 24, 2014, 3:43 pm
Beth, it may have slipped by you that the excavation the Jewish Bulletin was referring to related to historical facts/buildings long before Islam existed and long before Christianity. They too attest that Jerusalem was not built by the Israelites/Jews. Simple fact which is today so often distorted and/or denied.

So ... your diatribe against Muslims in this historical context is totally out of place. But I guess for a hate-filled mind like yours seems to be this doesn't matter. Important is that you can have a go at the Muslims.

Be my guest - it doesn't contribute anything though.
 

Ge M. (216)
Monday March 24, 2014, 4:54 pm
Eleanora, even archaeologists move on and 1998 is 16 years ago. If you keep quoting an historical article then it would suggest that it has been superseded and that you are talking fossilised crap. The buildings are from the Byzantine period which does not pre-date Judaism.

The Israel Antiquities Authority (1994-2000)
Excavations, commenced in 1994, were headed by Ronny Reich with the collaboration of Ya'aqov Billig, concentrating in the area of the Herodian street west of the Temple Mount. More than 70 m of the street were exposed, along with the stores that flanked it. During clearance of the stone collapse beneath Robinson's Arch, dozens of architectural elements came to light. These were parts of the original arch: stairs, stairwells and carved blocks. The uncovering of the Herodian street included the dismantling of the eastern wall of the Umayyad building (No. IV); among its building blocks were a number of reused theatre seats. The excavation also exposed parts of the Eastern Cardo, while reopening the blocked Ayyubid Gate.

Between the years 1997 and 2000 Yuval Baruch joined Ronny Reich in excavating the area near the Triple (Hulda) Gate and the subterranean spaces of the Umayyad building (No. III), where the Davidson Center was to be constructed. The excavations near the Triple Gate yielded an abundance of architectural elements, which were reused in later structures. These were originally part of the Royal Stoa built by Herod along the southern wall of the Temple Mount. East of the gate, the exposure of the rock-cut and built piers was completed. These supported the stepped street that ran along the southern wall of the Temple Mount, from the southeastern corner to the Triple Gate. Near the southeastern corner of the Temple Mount some probes were dug, in which remains dating to the First Temple period were found; also seven foundation courses of the Herodian enclosure, and many finds of Late Roman period.

The excavations in Umayyad Building III uncovered six huge spaces full of earth with an abundance of finds. These spaces were originally intended as foundations, meant to level the slope. It was discovered that the Umayyad building extended west to the Eastern Cardo, and was connected to the street via a large gate. Further, that the southern wall of Umayyad Building II, unearthed by Kenyon, predates Umayyad Building III and might well be of Byzantine date. Another excavation, conducted in the area of the bathhouse west of Robinson's Arch, dated its final destruction to the Byzantine period. Its walls were reused as foundations for Umayyad Building IV.

 

Beth S. (317)
Monday March 24, 2014, 5:00 pm
Well thanks, Eleonora,

No, what doesn't escape the attention is that Kurdish women are committing suicide by setting themselves, tragedies by the hundreds of thousands daily around the Middle East and Islamic world, and you, as filled with self-righteousness and grand indignation ignore everything else going on to make sure you don't miss your chance to wag your finger and tongue and at the nation of Israel, past or present.
 

Eleonora Oldani (43)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 12:30 am

Diverting seems to be the name of the game and I’m not into such games. My quote “Findings show that the sophisticated water system heretofor attributed to the conquering Israelites pre-dated them by eight centuries and was even more sophisticated than imagined…” (my comment of Monday March 24, 2014, 2:35 pm) doesn’t negate (and vice-versa) the other findings as posted by a certain “Gilian” on Monday March 24, 2014, 4:54 pm.

Nor does it make the fact, that Jerusalem was not built by the Israelites go away.

And what the Kurdish women of today or any other problems in the world have to do with archeological findings in Jerusalem … well my comment further up (“Important is that you can have a go at the Muslims.”) got again confirmed – as if it needed anymore confirmation that is!).

To all those who are blinded by hatred and have therefore lost their ability to read and when they occasionally read to fathom what they're reading and those who cannot add or subtract to grasp the chronology of events I'm so sorry I cannot help you any further and I truly doubt anyone can. Building on quick sand never lasts.

Shalom to all!
 

Ge M. (216)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 4:37 am
Eleanor, obviously talking about yourself "To all those who are blinded by hatred and have therefore lost their ability to read"

Quoting a 16 year old article and with no other support does not make you right. However, your attack on Israelis on something that may have happened nearly 4,000 years ago shows how desperate you are to denigrate Israelis/Jews. Beth was merely pointing out that fact along with your self righteous attitude which does not allow for abuses in the modern world which we should be condemning eg the suffering of Kurdish women or, just as ignored, the ethnic cleansing and ongoing genocide of Christians in the Muslim controlled Middle East or even Africa. This hatred of Jews makes you ignore their current suffering which many of us try to work to stop.

If you have a relevant or interesting comment on this fascinating article, please post otherwise take your anti-Semitism, racism and hatred elsewhere.
 

Winn Adams (190)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 7:39 am
Thanks
 

Lona Goudswaard (67)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 9:10 am
Very interesting video, thanks Beth. The video only mentioned that Dr. Eilat Mazar encountered a lot of criticism, but doesn't mention what this consists of. From the way she speaks it seems people took exception to her using the bible as a source, but as I understand it the old testament is of Hebrew origin and as good as an historical source as any other when it comes to this particular time in history which wasn't all that long ago in archaeological terms.

I'm always glad to see open-minded scholars value the historical and cultural data ancient religious documents offer without being side-tracked by that particular religion itself. I'm also very interested to learn what artefacts she finds tat pre-date this palace and wall If she is allowed to continue digging.
 

Ge M. (216)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 10:34 am
Lona, that's right. There is a lot of archaeological evidence that Moses genuinely existed, how the plagues would have happened and that the Egyptians attempted to cross, not the Red Sea, but the Sea of Reeds. In there the archaeologists found chariots and Egyptian armour from that time period. They also found stables etc where the horse would have been kept. They then followed the route that was described and found evidence of where the 12 tribes would have camped etc as described in the Old Testament.

Many other stories from the Old Testament have also been investigated but not found wanting. I have no doubt that these stories come from a basis of fact.
 

Jamie Clemons (280)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 1:27 pm
These archeologist seem to have an agenda not to look at the facts or look at the site objectively but to look for "biblical" links and try to make the facts fit their belief system. As far as biblical links it mentions Asheroth in the bible and it mentions that she was the consort of Yahweh. Feel free to look this up don't just take my word for it. During their dig they found female figures on jars similar to jars that they found inscriptions to Asheroth on. Both Jews and Arabs worship the "one" jealous god and follow a book religion. They ignore their roots and ignore the other Gods and Goddesses that were part of their original pantheon. They never said they were the only God just that they were jealous and didn't want the other Gods mentioned. The middle east was originally pagan until the war like tribes used wars and force to destroy the peaceful nature worshipers. They slaughtered many peaceful tribes to enforce their domination on the rest of the region and they have not changed today. The Jews and the Arabs can't even agree even though they worship the same one God they still want to kill each other.
 

Birgit W. (140)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 3:25 pm
Thanks.
 

Eleonora Oldani (43)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 5:09 pm

To Gilian – I think it’s rather childish and not very creative to just keep repeating what I write …

What you fail to see in your blindness is that it is not me who published these archeological findings mentioned in the Jewish Bulletin but quite renowned experts within archeological circles … or are they no good either because their findings don’t fit in what’s wanted today?!

It is interesting, however, how you construct my mentioning of accepted historical facts (e.g. the Israelites invading Canaan) into my desire to “denigrate Israelis/Jews” (and I will have you know btw that your cheap attempt to try and slip by everyone here that Jews = Israel is not gone unnoticed as there are too many good Jews who don’t condone the criminal acts of polit-Israel).

See, I was engaged a while ago in an "Islam-bashing" forum where one didn’t even shy away from outright falsifying a title of a newspaper article and presenting all kind of half-truth – all as a bridge to bash a religion and its followers and incite the readers. A little research on C2 showed that this seems to be a much preferred past-time of the (what I call) “e-Brigade”. Like a perpetuum mobile they spew their fabrications, go back in history as far as convenient, ignore inconvenient evidence refuting their allegation and present their “truths” – most of the time totally out of context and having nothing or only remote to do with an ongoing discussion.

Very much like what Beth did in response to my initial posting. Accusing others constantly of ones own wrongdoings is called in psychology projection.

I regret to disappoint you but by merely being uncouth and inadequate you are not going to drive me like I’m sure you had managed to do with many before, out of this or any other discussion.

As for my alleged anti-Semitism, racism and hatred – which I don’t have – I’m sorry I have no other place to take it … could you provide a map leading to an alternative location?

 

Patricia Martinez (12)
Tuesday March 25, 2014, 8:14 pm


People like you Eleo don't even recognize your own antisemitism. You are in denial. Someone said you are self righteous and they sure hit the nail on the head. Israel-bashing to the exclusion of everything else is the new antisemitism. If it walks like a duck, quacks like one, it is one. You are an antisemite, even though you can't bear the thought that you are a racist at heart.



 

Inge Bjorkman (126)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 1:11 am
Make LOVE not hate
Make PEACE not war

Love to all the people and animals
 

Mitchell D. (129)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 7:51 am
It may be that some of the Bible's stories are related to actual historical events, and it is likely that the stories were put together by the victors, to push their self-serving agenda, but, to take what bits seem to fit, to claim that the whole Biblical story is literally real,, is to insist on being blind.
A new dinosaur has just been identified, (see today's Earthsky.com) in the Dakotas, related to some previously identified in Asia.. and many other new ones have been found over the recent years,new...so, how big would The Ark have had to be to hold AND FEED a supposed pair of every kind of animal, over 9,000 species of birds, who knows how many insects, arachnids, snakes: well, you could feed the mouse pair to the snakes, but that's only one meal, and a small one, at that, and on, and on.
 

Beth S. (317)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 9:35 am
Those are good points, Mitchell. On a simplistic level, I divide early biblical accounts into allegory, and then later actual historical accounts fact-based. When we think of what earlier man was capable of understanding, a modern sophisticated scientific explanation of the Big Bang, evolution, dinosaurs or whatever would have been basically incomprehensible and useless to people of faith.

There is a tremendous amount of archeological discovery out there that goes hand in hand with the later biblical accounts, so it is not wise to be so quickly dismissive.

Robert Ballard, a famous scientist, underwater archaeologist of Christian faith has posited that many biblical events that took place were natural phenomenon, but that timing itself was divine. He took his equipment and found, for instance, that the Mediterranean had many indications of there having been a vast fresh water sea under the salty modern Mediterranean. There had also been a huge rocky structure that blocked the Atlantic’s waters from pouring into the previously fresh water sea of the Mediterranean. However, evidence shows that there was a geologic eruption and this rocky structure was compromised to the point that catastrophic amounts of Atlantic flooded the fresh water and land all around, which was the known and historical world then. This is far better explained in his book, “Before the Flood”.
 

Jordan G. (27)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 1:06 pm
Very interesting; thank you.
 

Jamie Clemons (280)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 1:34 pm
I watched the video it so sad to keep hearing her saying that the bible is a historical document. Many things have been edited out of the bible and it has been mistranslated so badly and so few things in it have actual historical basis.
 

Beth S. (317)
Wednesday March 26, 2014, 2:38 pm
Thanks, Jamie, for letting us know what you think.

Can you home in a bit more about which parts of the Bible are you speaking about?

For instance, there are the "OT" and the "NT" and each of them have many different parts that are concerned with different eras of history, so I'm not sure which one(s) you mean.

Also, which parts of the Bible have been mistranslated? Do you mean that the Bible, in general, has been deliberately mistranslated to change the meaning of the parts? And/or do you mean that different versions of the Bible, like the King James or NIV have been translated badly to either keep the grandeur of the royal sort of English poetic? And/or do you mean that Bibles like what the Catholics have changed the order of the books of the Hebrew Bible? There are so many things that you might mean.

Also, which things or what kind of things have been edited out? Do you mean out of the Hebrew Bible or Christian Bible?

What sort of things do you think do have an actual historical basis?
 

John S. (297)
Thursday March 27, 2014, 3:43 am
Whats the matter with referencing past articles, that a purpose of them. Actually the more citations an article has, the higher it is rated. Interesting video though.
 

Aaron Bouchard (125)
Friday March 28, 2014, 11:10 am
noted thanks
 

Rhonda B. (102)
Friday March 28, 2014, 4:49 pm
Noted. Thank you.
 

Kerrie G. (135)
Saturday March 29, 2014, 5:41 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Lindsay Kemp (1)
Saturday March 29, 2014, 10:51 am
Thanks for sharing
 

Marija Mohoric (49)
Saturday March 29, 2014, 11:18 am
interesting, thank you for sharing. very good comments, as well
 

Carol D. (104)
Saturday March 29, 2014, 1:13 pm
Thanks for interesting article and history I dont think the bible was changed Some letters and gospels were left out i believe because it did not suit the leaders of the church at that time and they needed to be all powerful but i believe the bible is the history of the jews and a book of prophecy God bless the Jewish people i say for giving us this wonderful history and the bible
 

Eleonora Oldani (43)
Saturday March 29, 2014, 5:13 pm

I got so … intimidated … by the “fossilised crap” (© Gillian) that got thrown in my direction that I almost forgot to link (http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/magazine/in-jerusalem-s-city-of-david-excavation-politics-is-never-absent-1.421448) this interesting article with one of the top experts of excavations in Jerusalem: Prof. Ronny Reich.

The article in Haaretz says: “Reich is the archaeologist who has excavated for the longest period of time in Jerusalum, and is considered one of the top researchers of the city.”

From the article:

Quote

“In his recent book, Reich is critical of someone who did claim to have found evidence of King David at the site − Dr. Ayelet Mazar of the Hebrew University, who claimed that she discovered King David’s palace.

Reich is not impressed with the findings: “I’m not convinced that this is King David’s palace. The ceramics do match the period, the first Iron Age, but when I saw this pile of shards and the place where it was discovered and the link between this place and the wall of that building − I didn’t see the connection. No new data has been found since then, and so I cannot rule out the possibility that these walls are more ancient [than David’s era].

“I don’t refute the historical figure of David, and he certainly had a place of residence in Jerusalem,” Reich adds. “Nor do I refute the assumption that this hill is the City of David. By definition, there is no other possibility. But I didn’t see the connection. Therefore I was not convinced. Nu, what can I do?” he says in that familiar tone.



“And the rest of the acts of Hezekiah, and all his might, and how he made a pool, and a conduit, and brought water into the city, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?,” reads the verse in 2 Kings 20. But Reich discovered that the dirt and waste found in the dug-out pool connected to the tunnel show that the pool was actually created several decades before Hezekiah’s time.

Reich: “I’m sorry this wasn’t what I was looking for, but this is what came out.”

Unquote

As a commenter said: “Archaeologists who dig with "a spade in one hand and a Bible in the other" do bad science. Unfortunately that sort of bad science has become very common in Israel, because the nationalists use archaeology politically.”
 

Franck R. (50)
Sunday March 30, 2014, 2:06 am
Thanks
 

FranNOMAILPLS Darcy (213)
Sunday March 30, 2014, 12:17 pm
noted...
 
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