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Controversy on Malaysian Doctors Amputating Limbs According to Sharia

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Muslim doctors have sworn to an Islamic doctor's oath which also binds them to Islam as a way of life and the implementation of Islamic laws including hudud, it added. Some doctors don't want to do this, and Muslims complain this is an insult to Islam.

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Beth S (330)
Thursday May 1, 2014, 11:30 am
First, the good news - if you have committed the crimes in Malaysia for which sharia prescribes amputation of limbs (theft, fornication, adultery, alcohol and apostasy), you'll have a harder time finding a medical doctor to do the amputations. On the other hand, there are still plenty left who will.

(Consider some other airline to fly there as well.)

'Before all do no harm is not exactly a major Muslim medical principle. Before all follow Sharia law is. And that’s a problem in Malaysia, which Obama compared to the US, but which is going down the dark road of Islamic law.'

"The Malaysian Medical Association (MMA) has disrespected Muslims and Muslim doctors by threatening to axe doctors who perform amputations under hudud, according to Muslim medical practitioners’ group i-Medik.

Muslim doctors have sworn to an Islamic doctor’s oath which also binds them to Islam as a way of life and the implementation of Islamic laws including hudud, it added.

“A Muslim doctor performs his task according to the Islamic medical doctor’s oath, which fully supports Islam as a way of life, and this includes fully supporting Shariah laws,” i-Medik chairman Prof Dr Azmi Md Nor said."

'So two medical associations. One professional and one Islamic. The Islamic one would like doctors to mutilate people. Because Islam is what it is.

iMedik, the hand chopping one, appears to be linked to Malaysian Muslim Solidarity whose president just claimed that women’s rights is a Jewish conspiracy.

Also he’s a fan of human rights…'

"Earlier Zaik said equality, liberty and human rights are “godless” and “faithless” ideologies created by atheists to destroy Islam."

'Because giving people human rights would destroy a slave religion based on terror and oppression.

And to back that up, he wants Sharia police. Because someone has to fight, what he called, “the agenda of liberalism, religious pluralism, total equality and Christianisation were brought to this country through various approaches through proxies and certain networks linked to international Jews, Freemasons and evangelist Christians.” '

'With all that in mind, you can accept that the Islamic mutilations will be carried out humanely.'

"A group representing Muslim physicians has defied the Health Ministry and Malaysian Medical Association on the hudud issue, saying that its members will amputate limbs “in the most humane manner possible”.

Pertubuhan Ikram Malaysia president Dr Mohammed Fauzi Abdul Rani said syariah law mandates Muslim physicians to perform the surgical procedure as instructed by syariah courts and as such, Muslim physicians must abide by it.

Fauzi said Muslim physicians are subservient to the higher ideals of syariah law to protect the general public.

On the Hippocratic Oath where physicians are expected to “do no harm” (primum non nocere), he said Muslim doctors are not doing any harm to a criminal who has transgressed the boundaries of social justice and has to undergo a punishment prescribed by Islamic law."

'Islam has its definition of harm. Also humanity, brotherhood, truth and common decency. And those definitions don’t align with those of the rest of the world.'

“These crimes (theft, fornication, adultery, alcohol consumption and apostasy) which threaten the social and moral order are seen as transgressing the limits set by Allah and thus have punishments mandated in the Quran.”

'Drinking alcohol is really wicked. However Mohammed raping a little girl was something Allah had no problem with.

But the bad doctor expresses a basic problem with Islamic professionals who put Islam above their professional duties. That is why the Muslim world remains a dangerous and backward place.

Possessing technical skills is not the same thing as civilization. Literacy, technology can still be possessed by barbarians. It’s the mindset that makes for civilization.

As an example of that, here’s a letter from a Muslim doctor in defense of Islamic mutilations.'

"The ethics and the law are manmade, whereas the Islamic ruling is from Allah. As a Muslim doctor, I am a Muslim first. At the moment, the fact that syaria’ law has not been fully implemented has made it compulsory on me to make it happen…

Technically, the amputation of thief’s hand should be conducted in a way not to harm his or her life. Threat to his or her life could be due to blood loss, infection and other comorbidities. Excessive blood loss can be prevented by identifying two main arteries supplying blood to the hands. Infection should be prevented by safeguarding hygiene prior, during and after the procedure. Comorbidities should be addressed by having a thorough medical check-up and optimization prior to the event. Also, the technique of the amputation should guarantee safe healing of the stump and retained integrity of remaining bones."

'This is what we’re dealing with. Savages with degrees. It’s what we’re dealing with at every single level of the conflict.'

Animae C (513)
Thursday May 1, 2014, 1:47 pm
My goodness it's like a Saturday afternoon B grade horror movie!

Stan B (123)
Thursday May 1, 2014, 5:27 pm
As long as they amputate limbs humanely it seems to be ok. What a bunch of madmen!! No wonder their planes disappear.

Patricia Martinez (63)
Thursday May 1, 2014, 6:56 pm

Perhaps a step up from the many countries where limbs are amputated by non-professionals, but this just goes to show once more how fundamentally different Western and Islamic values are. Western doctors taking the oath of first do no harm, and Muslim doctors trying to make sure the harm they deliberately inflict doesn't become infected.

Then there is the problem of Muslim doctors giving part of their earnings to Zakat, where Muslims are obligated to support Jihad.



Walter F (129)
Thursday May 1, 2014, 9:39 pm
These allah chanting fanatics have made a mockery of the Hippocratic oath.I wonder if muslim doctors in our country agree with their Malaysian brothers.I would like to hear one disassociate himself from limb amputation as prescribed by sharia law.

Madhuri Pillai (22)
Thursday May 1, 2014, 10:45 pm
Sad state of affairs, doctors are supposed to save and preserve lives.

berny p (23)
Friday May 2, 2014, 6:18 am

his is what we’re dealing with. Savages with degrees

. It’s what we’re dealing with at every single level of the conflict.'


Phil P (94)
Friday May 2, 2014, 7:41 am
Rather than being politically correct and merely shaking our heads with disdain, perhaps it's time to deal with and remove barbaric and barbarians surgically as the cancer it is, but in a "human way".

Henrik Thorsen (31)
Friday May 2, 2014, 8:29 am
I fart in the general direction of dark age hocus pocus and mumbo jumbo.

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Friday May 2, 2014, 10:54 am
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Lona G (80)
Friday May 2, 2014, 1:02 pm
The headline and introduction were fair enough and I was really interested to know more about those doctors torn into by two opposing oaths and I noted it. But al kinds of sidelines entered the story and than I saw the name of the source and its slogan: Frontpage Mag, "Inside every Liberal is a Totalitarian screaming to get out". Really Beth? On Care2?
Thank you, I'll pass. Can I take my note back?

. (0)
Friday May 2, 2014, 2:57 pm
Savages with degrees..I liked that Berny.

Colin Hope (243)
Saturday May 3, 2014, 5:34 am
and I agree with you too, Allan!!

Animae C (513)
Saturday May 3, 2014, 6:30 am


berny p (23)
Saturday May 3, 2014, 8:38 am
spammer again...where are you care 2?

Helen Porter (39)
Saturday May 3, 2014, 10:46 pm
What horror is this?
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