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Toddlers Told Not to Make Nursery Rhyme Sign in Case It Is Offensive


Offbeat  (tags: PC, UK, children, culture, ethics, funny, off-beat, society, star, sign language )

Ge
- 950 days ago - telegraph.co.uk
Toddlers have been told to stop making a "diamond" star sign while singing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star in case the gesture is misinterpreted as sign language representing a female body part.



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Roger Garin-michaud (61)
Saturday December 17, 2011, 2:33 pm
where will PC stop ? it has become utter madness....
 

Ge M. (216)
Saturday December 17, 2011, 3:36 pm
Don't you have to know what the symbol means and, according to the article, it is 100,000 nationwide? Shall we say that 20 people in the audience know, surely they would know the difference between star (hands up high) and genitalia (hands down low) and they would, most certainly know, that the children would not know the difference? (If they did then that would be an immediate call to the police and social services to have the child removed from the parents!) : (

I am personally offended that anyone who works with little children would do this and make a simple nursery rhyme unpleasant for them and their families.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Saturday December 17, 2011, 4:26 pm
The people that sit on their arses and think up this idiotic drivel have their minds in the gutter. A child is an innocent victim in all of this Politically Correct crap.............but there are people who would shatter this innocent because that is what THEIR TWISTED MINDS WANT. Thank you Gillian.
 

Ingrid A. (530)
Saturday December 17, 2011, 5:47 pm
I agree with you too Gillian.
 

Ralph R Sutton (56)
Saturday December 17, 2011, 7:21 pm
This is just ridiculous. These are just little children having a good time and then along comes some stupid adult with their mind in the gutter and spoils it for them.
 

Phyllis Baxter (40)
Saturday December 17, 2011, 8:11 pm
Fun police gone feral! Pathetic PC demented twerps should be sacked.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 12:26 am
This symbol has been used for a star as far back as I can remember and as makaton was only developed in the early seventies they have taken nursery rhyme symbol and degraded it for their own use
I would question the suitability of the persons concerned to be dealing with children and would love to know how they answered the questions that must have been forthcoming
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (276)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 12:35 am
BLOODY RIDICULOUS
 

Ge M. (216)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 4:05 am
email sent to comments@york.gov.uk marked as a complaint

Sure Start centre in Acomb

I have read, in horror, about the member of your staff who told the staff running the Sure Start centre that little children may offend a deaf person when signing.

My first reaction is that the staff member himself needs investigating as to the reason that they believe how anyone could be distressed by an innocent toddler making a symbol that so few in the audience would recognise and, if they did, it would be so out of context that they would know that the word was being used accidentally.

My second reaction is the mental and emotional damage that your council will be perpetrating against the toddlers at the centre and their families by making their innocent fun perverted. Is this how your council wishes to educate children? I sincerely hope not.

My third reaction is that your council publicly supported this abysmal behaviour thereby making the statement that the teachers are perverted and are capable of teaching toddlers to be so. This has taken a cute and popular nursery rhyme, of the kind that I taught my children, and made it into something shameful.

When I was younger I learned to sign basic words and sentences because I felt that deaf people were left out so often as they could not communicate with other people. I have been trying to encourage other people to do so as well. I am fully aware that communication with people, regardless of their ethnicity and disability, is important and helps to make them feel included in any community. This behaviour will stop people learning to sign or even to use another language in case they “offend” someone. Personally, I have found that, far from being offended, deaf people laugh at mistakes because they are pleased that someone has, at least, made an effort.

I trust that you will be fully investigating this incident and, whilst I am aware that you cannot tell me the results of the investigation of the individual involved, I require to know how the council will deal with the aftermath of this event.
 

John Gregoire (257)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 5:41 am
Pure madness!
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 7:22 pm
Thanks for this article.
 

TERRY R. (291)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 7:33 pm
MADNESS.
 

Dave C. (213)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 7:44 pm
truly fits the offbeat category.....
 

Caroline Trumbull (0)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 7:48 pm
This is beyond nuts! Little children should be allowed to be children -- and people with dirty minds and overblown fears should not be teaching them!!!
 

Cynthia Scott (0)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 8:11 pm
Wow this pc awareness is going to far.
 

Nancy Roussy (79)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 8:21 pm
I really cannot think of any words right now to describe how insane this is but very sadly this does not surprise me at all. We can expect more things like that in the near future since most people are either offended by anything or are afraid that someone will get offended!
 

Emily L. (23)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 8:50 pm
wow, that is totally ridiculous there are many common hand signals which could be considered offensive in one language or another... many words are the same... context must always be taken into account and tolerance is an important part of sensitivity too... plus pointing toward genitals versus the standard sign that has been with that song for generations up in the air is quite different...
 

Danuta Watola (1179)
Sunday December 18, 2011, 11:54 pm
noted
 

Alison A. (229)
Monday December 19, 2011, 2:43 am
Haven't they got anything better to do????? This is PC gone mad!
 

Lori U. (3)
Monday December 19, 2011, 1:48 pm
You have got to be kidding me!The thought of this being obscene is ridiculous people need to stop being so offended by everything they see.It seems like every day adults are finding something wrong with children's innocence stories,songs and characters.
 

Barbara Goheen (0)
Monday December 19, 2011, 2:15 pm
If we stop doing everything that MIGHT offend someone we will soon be afraid to breathe. Lighten up a little people.
 

Tom Edgar (56)
Monday December 19, 2011, 3:22 pm
I am reminded of a British comedian of many years ago Maxie Miller, admittedly not the cleanest of comedians, who could come on stage and spend five minutes saying practically nothing having the audience rolling in the aisles just by saying "I know what you want and are thinking." He was quoted as saying of his double entendres. The only dirty bit is in the audience minds." That sums it up. Those who have filthy minds interpret the most mundane expressions as vulgar. Little children do not have vulgar thoughts other than those implanted by others.
 

Claudia O. (73)
Monday December 19, 2011, 3:42 pm
This is just stupid gone to seed. When children sing about a star, they mean a star. For goodness sake!
 

Amber T. (1)
Monday December 19, 2011, 3:44 pm
Who is the sick f***, who thought that up?
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Monday December 19, 2011, 5:56 pm
Ask the hypocrites who made the complaint if they want some cheeze with their whine. Here's my answer - I'll get the toddler class to make up a poster based on 'Ring Around the Rosie' with the roses drawn as buboes and a big dead rat drawn in the middle, then tell the Politically Corrupt complainers to take a long walk off a short pier.
 

New G. (8)
Monday December 19, 2011, 6:12 pm
OK?.....
 

Dolores M. (8)
Monday December 19, 2011, 6:31 pm
Our society is definitely screwed-up!!! It has gone from hating Communistics in the mid 1900 to not hurting anybody's feelings today. Flippin' wake up!! Political correctness is the stupidity of the ignorant.
 

Sarah G. (110)
Monday December 19, 2011, 6:34 pm
how silly
 

Kara C. (15)
Monday December 19, 2011, 8:56 pm
When will this politially correct madness end seriously kids dont know about these things unless you tell them, and I doubt anyone deaf would really care about it. This is almost as bad as baa baa black sheep umm i mean rainbow.
 

Christine T. (42)
Monday December 19, 2011, 10:06 pm
What a joke. As other people have said above, like little kids would really think of it as such. People will make something out of nothing whenever they can.
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 1:48 am
I am having a good laugh nice joke thanks
 

Ge M. (216)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 5:05 am
Kara, I learnt baa baa black sheep and now wonder if it is pc and will be changed to baa baa white sheep.
 

Terri Hughes (412)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 7:22 am
How STUPID, these toddlers DON'T know what you are talking about. People want to pick over EVERY little thing. Are people that bored that they have to sit around and think up stupid things to complain about? Leave kids ALONE and STOP feeling there heads full of non-sense. IDIOTS!!!!
 

Kari Knabe (14)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 8:03 am
Oh my gosh!! Politically correct to the extreme!!!! Stop the madness!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Christopher Fowler (84)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 9:20 am
And people wonder why I have such a loathing for the idiocy of political correctness.

We have allowed ourselves to be PC'd to the point where communication is becoming impossible without some either claiming an unreasonable offense, or the PC police being "offended for others", which is the most offensive because that presumes that those "others" are incapable of being offended for themselves and is demeaning to those same "others" that they are "offended for".
 

Susan W. (24)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 12:09 pm
Are you kidding me. I bet not one person watching these children sing this song would have ever thought of anything other than, i'm so proud of ,,, aren't they doing a good job ,,, they've really worked hard on this. Now instead of watching these beautiful children sing and enjoying this sone their minds are now tainted with such ludicrous ideas. For heaven's sake. let children be children. And let their parents watch and be proud of what their little ones have accomplished.

These people who have their minds in the gutter and sexualize everything these days need to get their head examined.

I enjoyed watching Sesame Street as a child. Now apparently Bert and Ernie are gay. Now some parents won't let them watch this eduactioanl show. My daughter was way past this stage when Teletubbies came out. Apparently one of them, i can't remember which (cause i really don't care) is gay. So parents stopped letting their kids watch this.

Are our children not already bombarrded with sexual content as they get older from magazines to tv shows to movies. Leave toddlers alone and allow them to be children. For in this world today that is not a long time.



 

anne barusta (0)
Tuesday December 20, 2011, 7:05 pm
Yes, and I might fall, so do I stop walking??
 

colleen p. (38)
Wednesday December 21, 2011, 7:19 am
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/11/18/sports/OREGON2vignette/OREGON2vignette-popup.jpg it's happening elsewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPgrsfoIxFU
 

Sharon Balloch (132)
Wednesday December 21, 2011, 2:05 pm
Always funny what some folks will think up to complain about.. so i guess I should say thanks for the chuckle but its just too sad to laugh at..
 

Kayla K. (0)
Thursday December 29, 2011, 7:24 pm
WOW! Really?? Everything can be misinterpreted these days, CAN'T IT!?!?! It's insane, sad & insane :'(
 

Victoria B. (21)
Friday December 30, 2011, 3:39 pm
Nowadays people just look for sexual symbolism in places where there aren't any.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (276)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 2:29 am
stupid
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 4:30 pm
Can't begin to believe that we have such STUPID, MORONIC TEACHERS warping innocent minds.
 
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