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Did CAIR Founder Say Islam to Rule America?


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Gillian
- 1698 days ago - wnd.com
It's a citation used frequently by critics to argue the highly influential Council on American-Islamic Relations is an extremist organization - founder Omar Ahmad's alleged 1998 assertion that Islam must one day dominate the U.S. - but now Muslim leader



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Gillian M (218)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 11:57 am
It’s a citation used frequently by critics to argue the highly influential Council on American-Islamic Relations is an extremist organization – founder Omar Ahmad’s alleged 1998 assertion that Islam must one day dominate the U.S. – but now Muslim leaders have confronted Ahmad, expressing concern that someone from their community could voice such radical sentiments.

Ahmad told the Muslim leaders – and WND in an interview – the attribution is a “total fabrication” and assured them the newspaper, the Fremont Argus in California, issued a “clarification” after he “challenged” reporter Lisa Gardiner.

That seemed to satisfy the Muslim leaders, but Gardiner told WND she continues to stand by the story, and Editor Steve Waterhouse said he’s confident she got it right. After hearing that news Thursday, one of the Muslim leaders immediately resurrected the issue with his colleagues, declaring Ahmad and CAIR need to find a way “to extinguish this fire.”

“She was a good, solid reporter,” Waterhouse said of Gardiner. “She was absolutely certain about what he said and what she reported.”

Gardiner, who now works for a non-profit group, told WND last week she’s 100-percent sure Ahmad was the speaker and that he made those statements, pointing out nobody challenged the story at the time it was published eight years ago.

“She’s lying,” Ahmad said upon hearing Gardiner’s defense of the story. “Absolutely, she’s lying. How could you remember something from so long ago? I don’t even remember her in the audience.”

CAIR, which has enjoyed access to the White House as the country’s largest Islamic advocacy group, recently defended the six imams removed from a US Airways flight because they were deemed a potential security threat.

Ahmad, who stepped down as CAIR chairman last year, maintained to WND he “never uttered those words.”

“It is not my stance, it is not what I believe in,” said Ahmad, CEO of SiliconExpert Technologies in Santa Clara, Calif. “The year before (the 1998 event) I was a commissioner for my city and took an oath on the constitution and never had a problem. It doesn’t make sense for me to think that way. I was shocked to hear somebody reported that.”

It was WND’s 2003 story about Ahmad’s alleged remarks that prompted the Muslim leaders to query the CAIR founder two months ago. In a string of e-mail correspondence copied to WND, the leaders first debated among themselves, then asked Ahmad to tell them whether the report is true and, if so, to repudiate the remarks.

Mike Ghouse, president of a Dallas-based group called World Muslim Congress, told colleagues in the e-mails that Ahmad allegedly has made a “dangerously militant statement.”

“The harsh reality [that] we do not want to hear and acknowledge [is] that no Muslim in America or anywhere else in the world wants to live in an Islamic nation,” Ghouse wrote.

The 1998 Argus article, also published in the sister San Ramon Valley Herald, paraphrased Ahmad saying: “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant,” and, “The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

In one of his replies to the Muslim leaders, Ahmad wrote: “These statements are total fabrication and I never said them at all. Actually there (sic) were not direct quote and I challenged the reporter and the newspaper and they published a clarification 3 years ago.”

The Muslim leaders, at the time, seemed satisfied with the denial, including Ghouse.

Ghouse told WND he understood Ahmad to be saying the newspaper and the reporter had backed off on their claim that the story is true, perhaps, at least, expressing some doubt about it.

But Waterhouse said flatly, “We did not publish a clarification.”

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Roger Skinner (14)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 12:10 pm
I would note that this article is from 2006 about an "alleged 1998 assertion that Islam must one day dominate the U.S." I would also note this is from WND and the author used to be a writer for Christianity Today magazine.

I would ask Gillian what is the point of posting such an old article about an even older "alleged" statement? Couldn't find anything more recent to raise muck about Muslims with?
 

Rahman Qureshi (76)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 12:13 pm
The sad thing Gillian is gullible Westerners will say "nah, you don't really mean that" when Muslims say they believe they are superior, want Shari'a law to trump Western laws, want to subjugate non-Muslims, end free speech exposing Islam, etc. The Muslims repeatedly say these things and Westerners have their predetermined response ready of "Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance and hijacked by a few extremists." Normally people have to speak for themselves when they make threatening, violent or supremacist statements, but when it comes to Muslims, no matter what they say, gullible non-Muslims are only willing to answer for them that "Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance". When Muslims say they are superior, Westerners say 'nah, you don't really believe that." When Muslims say they want to kill those who leave Islam, Westerners say "nah, you don't really mean that." In other words, Muslims can say anything they want and get away with it; they get a free pass. But let any other group say anything like "we oppose the self-proclaimed superiority of Muslims" and gullible Westerns are all over them like white on rice, demanding they issue an apology for their "hateful" language. This is insanity!
 

pam w (139)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 12:49 pm
They can fantasize all they like.....it won't happen.
 

Darren W (218)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 1:37 pm
No "Religion" has the right to impose itself on any one (person, group or society). Religion and spirituality is a private matter for the individual
 

Gillian M (218)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 2:39 pm
'WE ARE ABOVE THE LAW OF THE LAND' - This relates to an action alert dated 7 March 2013

Muslim leader's stunning claim at Texas rally for Islam

Muslims living in America should not be bound by U.S. law, according to a leader of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, who delivered the controversial message to a crowd at a Muslim rally in Austin, Texas.

“If we are practicing Muslims, we are above the law of the land,” said Mustafa Carroll, executive director of the Dallas-Fort Worth CAIR branch.

The rally in Austin was part of a nationwide effort to hold “Muslim Capitol Day” events.

According to the event website, Muslims from around Texas went to the capitol to “promote civic and political activism throughout the wider Muslim community.”

The organizers said one major issue discussed “was the recent House and Senate bill proposals involving the implementation of ‘anti-Shariah’ legislation, where the First Amendment rights and freedoms of Muslims would ultimately be hindered.”

Critics argue Shariah prohibits other faiths from free exercise of religion when enforced, giving freedom only to Muslims.

Carroll’s statement was similar to a statement allegedly made by CAIR co-founder and former chairman Omar M. Ahmad. He was paraphrased by a reporter saying, “Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant” and the Quran “should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

Carroll began joking about the widespread concern about Shariah, the religious code that governs Muslim civil and political life.

“We tried to downplay Shariah, because we didn’t want to give the other side any excitement for being here,” he said.

He dismissed critics who express concern about Shariah, calling them “anti-foreign.”

“When you even say the word Shariah, people get nervous. We are not advocating for Shariah. We are not trying to make Shariah the law of the land,” he said.

Carroll claimed Muslims only want the “right to practice our faith.”

But he also said, “If you understand Shariah, the foundation of our faith … how we treat our neighbor, how we treat our parents … how we participate in society, all of that is part of Shariah.”

Carroll is on record defending Hamas, classified by the U.S. as a terrorist group.

“I think you can only blame Hamas for so long. It takes two to tango. And I think, you know, that what we’ve heard for a number of years is this terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, terrorist, Hamas, Hamas, Hamas, was not just Hamas,” he’s said.

At CAIR’s Dallas banquet in 2007, Carroll denied the Quran is the source of terrorism.

“Look at the true cause of the terrorism. It’s not somebody is reading a book, reading a Quran, and then go out and say, ‘Well, the Quran told me to blow this up. I’m gonna blow it up.’ The cause, the root cause of terrorism is oppression. The root cause of terrorism is oppression.”
 

Beth S (330)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 8:12 pm
Gillian,

'WE ARE ABOVE THE LAW OF THE LAND' - This relates to an action alert dated 7 March 2013

This is very important to cite the source for this, for people like Roger who are inclined not to believe. I would urge you to cite the references as soon as possible and as clearly, comprehensively and consistently as possible.

Having said that, this message that Achmad is denying is one that so many Islamic leaders (Islamists) have said before, that it's almost funny that he denies it. But to the pathetically gullible like Roger Skinner, the habitual lying of Islamists seems to work like a charm.

Many people who visit Care2 have a beef against Christianity. They equate Christianity with Islam, and because they know so little about Islam, they're 100% morally certain that Christianity is just as bad or worse than Islam. Care2 Causes likes to help facilitate this impression, but it's a deadly mistake. The Christianity of the past was very violent, but it has matured and mellowed. Christianity is also textually a peaceful book, whereas Islam is textually a very violent book, as are the Hadiths, the many examples of Muhammad's life. This is why, although it took Christianity a long time to reform, Islam never will be able to, outside of a few and very small fringe groups.

There is long record, literally recorded, of Islamists saying one thing to their Western audiences (peaceful messages that the Western audiences would like to hear) and saying the polar opposite to their Islamic (Arabic, Farsi, etc.) audiences. MEMRI.org does a wonderful job capturing these damning speeches and translating them for people who don't believe it or don't want to believe it.
 

Tommy S (11)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 9:49 am
Plenty of information at
http://www.anti-cair-net.org/
 

Jay S (116)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 10:03 am
Well, anyone who has studied Islam knows that Islam teaches its followers to lie (there are even 4 words for the different types of lies they are to use) and use any means or actions, even murder, as long as it promotes/benefits Islam and its spread. So Ahmed's denials mean nothing.

Omar Ahmad was captured on FBI surveillance tapes at Hamas meetings in the U.S.A. during 1993 explaining that the IAP (Islamic Assn. for Palestine) could not, for political reasons, publicly admit its support for Hamas, and then discussing how the Hamas agenda could be cloaked and advanced. Omar Ahmad’s airfare and hotel bills for this meeting were paid for by the Holy Land Foundation which was found in US courts to be funding Islamist terrorist organizations. The US Muslim Brotherhood and one of its US front groups, CAIR, were also named as co-conspirators.

CAIR is one of many US Muslim groups that is a front group for the sinister Muslim Brotherhood which, in a captured document by the FBI, stated:

"The Ikhwan (brotherhood) must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim's destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny except for those who chose to slack."
(Read more at: http://www.investigativeproject.org/document/id/20)

Here's another proof of the sickness of this group and what they say when they think no one is listening: At a Muslim conference in the US a CAIR official gave a virulent hate speech against Jews saying they must be killed and Muslims must stop being shy about defending Islam’s hate teachings since they have the only truth:
http://www.investigativeproject.org/3608/dawud-walid-the-quran-and-jews (BTW Mohammed did say Allah commanded the killing of all Jews so the day of resurrection for Muslims could come - Bukhari:V4B52N177 )
 

Gillian M (218)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 10:08 am
Beth, I agree that I should have put my second comment up immediately but it would not stop the detractors/anti-semites from making assinine or head in the sand comments. Even if this was just old news, it is no less relevant.
 

Carola May (20)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 10:11 am
I've been studying Islam for nearly 5 years now and I know enough not to believe a word anything any of them say. Here's good proof of that from one of their leader's own mouth (a rare breath of truth, for a change):

"They may say one thing to you in front of CNN but I can assure you behind your backs... they are standing with their Muslim brother and sisters... It is an Islamic obligation."
-- Imam Anjem Choudary UK Islamic Scholar, Theologian, Lecturer London School of Sharia

There have been 3 TV documentaries here in the UK on channel 4 where they filmed undercover in two different prominent mosques and the hate speech spewed in both of them is sickening against the West, women, gay people, Christians, Britain etc etc. Then the imams were interviewed in front of the cameras and said the exact opposite of everything they preached inside the mosques.

Islam is the only religion that doesn't teach the Golden Rule, except for fellow Muslims. It's amazing how many Muslims think Islam teaches similar things to Jesus Christ or the Buddha and have never read the Qur'an or the Sunnah. If they did, one wonders if there would be many Muslims left in the world.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 3:38 pm
We say Islam will never rule the world!!!!!!!
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 3:41 pm
.........it is a NEGATIVE power and filled with HATE..........therefore it cannot survive for long....the power of POSITIVITY and LOVE will wash it away.
 

. (0)
Friday March 29, 2013, 9:39 am
Regardless of the age of the article, CAIR and the Brotherhood are one in the same.It's unsettling to say the least to wonder just how much Obama believes in this.
 

. (0)
Friday March 29, 2013, 12:47 pm
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