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Words Like 'Good' And 'Will' Don't Belong Together If This Is The Kind Of Thing They Do


Business  (tags: abuse, disabled Americans, civil rights, ethical, fair )

Ellen
- 439 days ago - upworthy.com
A story about how Goodwill treats its sheltered workshop workers. We need to update the fair labor act.



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ellen m. (222)
Monday July 8, 2013, 3:49 am
I read about this awhile back and was appalled.
Equally bad is the loophole that lets employers can get away with paying "disabled" workers substantially less.
 

jeanne schreurs (205)
Monday July 8, 2013, 4:43 am
I don't understand why this isn't changed years ago.
This is SLAVERY. This makes me SICK.
I couldn't even watch the entire video.

Thanks Elen for posting so more and more people become aware about this creep and maybe something can change.
 

AniMae Chi (407)
Monday July 8, 2013, 4:48 am
Tax exempt, non profit exploitation
& yes time they moved from the 19th century into the 21st

Thank you Ellen
 

Paul Girardin (140)
Monday July 8, 2013, 5:31 am
Noted, Signed & Shared!

My blood is boiling again!

Disgusting!
 

Past Member (0)
Monday July 8, 2013, 5:36 am
signed and noted 8/7,thank you
 

Veselin Varbanov (23)
Monday July 8, 2013, 5:36 am
Noted !
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Monday July 8, 2013, 5:45 am
Another C2 member had recently placed something about this on the news threads, but it can't be sent out enough, there is always those who miss the first posting. Again, those at the top of the Corporate ladder are making large sums of monies while those at the bottom are being used and abused.

There is never any justification for this abuse but certainly those who are already dealing with challenges are the least of those one should be taking advantage of. The Heartless Greedy Ones show no mercy, not to our Elders, the children, and certainly not the Medically Challenged.
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday July 8, 2013, 5:52 am

I would say this is the umpteenth time this story has been on Care2, but I think the first with a link to Upworthy and maybe more will watch the video. People need to understand that not only Goodwill but many other "non-profits" are taking advantage of disabled workers and doing it legally. I do hope people will learn what is going on and help get this changed.

Under Section 14 (c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, employers can apply for a special wage certificate that allows them to hire people with disabilities at a subminimum wage. Nationally, more than 300,000 workers are subjected to the law. Goodwill uses the special minimum wage exemption to take advantage of 7,300 of its 105,000 employees.
 

(0)
Monday July 8, 2013, 6:30 am
When we have anything to donate, we take it to our local thrift shop which is run by volunteers of our local animal shelter.
I'll NEVER support Goodwill again! This just adds Goodwill to the list of organizations who lie and cheat because they're greedy.
Shameful!
 

Past Member (0)
Monday July 8, 2013, 6:36 am
Signed, thanks Ellen and AniMaeChi for the forward.
 

Susan Allen (221)
Monday July 8, 2013, 6:44 am
Apparently, for some reason, I can't find this story. I assume it's somewhere, but the link doesn't work for me. I will continue trying to find the story as I'm sure it's one I would like to share with others. Thanks Jan.
 

NicoleAWAY W. (631)
Monday July 8, 2013, 7:22 am
thank you Ellen for posting and AniMaeChi for forwarding
 

Angelika R. (143)
Monday July 8, 2013, 7:31 am
I'm taking a wild guess this regulation was created by the repukes.. another shameful example how little respect they have for humans. I found nothing there to sign, no idea what people here signed..
 

Maria S. (102)
Monday July 8, 2013, 9:05 am
Noted. Nowhere to sign though! Thanks Ellen for posting and AniMaeChi for forwarding.
 

Cynthia no frwd B. (261)
Monday July 8, 2013, 9:33 am
this makes me snort fire, again. Disgusting abuse, stemming from greed. This shames our whole nation. The loophole needs to be closed. This is basically, slavery of the handicapped. Can't find the where to sign
 

Robert O. (12)
Monday July 8, 2013, 10:25 am
How absolutely infuriating! Thanks Ellen!
 

Anna Undebeck (205)
Monday July 8, 2013, 10:44 am
Dont even know what to say.. makes me so angry!!!

Thanks Ellen. And ty AniMaeChi for forwarding!
 

tasunka m. (334)
Monday July 8, 2013, 10:54 am
I've been doing research on charitable organizations.
Do you realize, that they are paid positions with really good salaries
 

Barbara F. (65)
Monday July 8, 2013, 11:44 am
Noted and DISGUSTED! Thanks AniMae!
 

Sharon W. (4)
Monday July 8, 2013, 2:13 pm
Good thing it does not exist here.
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Monday July 8, 2013, 3:05 pm
Well, sure, isn't it obvious (if you're a Republican) that the disabled are never going to lift themselves up by their bootstraps and are therefore dependent parasites on the system? Starve them to get rid of them as soon as possible.
 

Debra Tate (17)
Monday July 8, 2013, 3:19 pm
noted!
 

Debra Tate (17)
Monday July 8, 2013, 3:20 pm
Noted
 

Dandelion G. (387)
Monday July 8, 2013, 3:39 pm
Just because this loophole was placed into law back in the 1930's doesn't mean that these Corporate types couldn't do better than that. Our Government needs to update this law and shame on those who exploit people and then fall back on the "letter of the law".

I don't begrudge anyone from earning a living, but when I DONATE items to be helping those who would be employed at Goodwill, and I find that this Company makes billions in profit, pays the top management six figure salaries while paying those they are suppose to be helping BELOW minimum wage, I find that to be most disgraceful. No, I won't be contributing to them anymore either.

The CEO's argument that it makes some of the disabled feel better to be working and contributing. Well I can say the same thing about a lot of people and a job they may have. Doctors go into their professions to help and save people, Teachers get a satisfaction out of their profession with children, those who perform on stage enjoy entertaining others, comics like to hear people laugh, all of those get satisfaction but would they accept being paid below minimum wage?

 

Vicky P. (464)
Monday July 8, 2013, 4:11 pm
sad and disturbing
 

Susan Allen (221)
Monday July 8, 2013, 5:34 pm
This was certainly a big eye opener for me. I generally donate to local charities in my area rather than the big ones like Good Will. I might be wrong, but I doubt alot know about this. Noted and shared.
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday July 8, 2013, 6:18 pm

Link to the Upworthy video:

http://www.upworthy.com/the-civil-rights-issue-that-goodwill-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about?c=bl3
 

MelindaAWAY K. (172)
Monday July 8, 2013, 6:36 pm
Thanks Ellen for posting this important story.
 

MelindaAWAY K. (172)
Monday July 8, 2013, 6:43 pm
Ellen, maybe you can start a petition on this? Just a thought, thanks.
 

BarbCat SunshineLady (1649)
Monday July 8, 2013, 9:01 pm
Thank you for posting Ellen and thank you for the fwd Melinda. I think that disabled CEO of Goodwill just 'got lucky' and ended up making way more than the 'regular' disabled workers...he must have been holdin' his mouth right. I could never work in a Goodwill but tokk a Dragon Dictate class at one in the 90's. They were interested in testing about 15-30 disabled peoples' voices to see if Dragon Dictate could recognize the voices because this is the purpose of the Dragon Dictate Program. My Goodwill counselors worked diligently with me 5 days a week trying to get my voice the right pitch. I had to read from books aloud into Dragon Dictate but I could never get that 'monotone' voice D.D. was looking for. Finally, in the end, they had to let me go because my voice had too many influxuations. It was partly due to my CP and my ability to stress words; in other words, if Dragon Dictate had been a play on broadway, I would've gotten a part hands down!! lol

I do not think they should be so stingy with paying the disabled community at Goodwill. TYSM for bringing this to my attention, Melinda. If anyone starts a petition let me know so I can sign!!
 

Kathleen R. (138)
Tuesday July 9, 2013, 10:16 am
noted
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday July 9, 2013, 10:58 am

Stop Goodwill From Paying People 22 cents an hour!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/954/532/124/stop-goodwill-from-paying-people-22-cents-an-hour/
 

Vera Taylor (46)
Tuesday July 9, 2013, 3:38 pm
SOS=same old shit=sad old stuff
the rich get richer by stomping on the poor & disabled.
Social Security does the same. I get all of $49.50 a month in cash to buy my 15 prescription's with.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Tuesday July 9, 2013, 4:45 pm
Disgusting, but unfortunately not unknown. Why do we allow all the corporations to treat us this way? Why don't we speak up? We are all quiet because we are afraid that we might loose our jobs, and this is what those greedy bastards are counting on.
 

Diana Bair (7)
Tuesday July 9, 2013, 7:27 pm
JUST STOP VOTING IN REPUBLICANS........AND THINGS LIKE THIS CAN BE STOPPED OR CONTROLED!!!!!!!!.....ITS JUST LIKE GOP/RICH OUTSOURCING JOBS LYING ABOUT TRICKLE DOWN..........AND HAVING THEIR LITTLE TAX SHELTERS!!!!!!!!!!.
 

Debra Tate (17)
Tuesday July 9, 2013, 7:34 pm
Noted! Shame on them!
 

Shirley T. (95)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 2:28 am
The true idea of Sheltered Workshops has been totally distorted and misused here. True Sheltered Workshops do exist and this wage system is fair in there. The people that work in them are truly unable to work in any normal environment which Goodwill is. It is a complete distortion to say that it is a Sheltered Workshop. The people in a true sheltered workshop are often not able to follow things like normal toilet hygiene behavior. Who possible cannot follow instructions on more that an age three or four level. It is more of a daycare facility. It is not a place where the work of a facility like Goodwill would have any success. That type work would be simply beyond the capabilities of the clients. I would hate for these true type facilities to lose their standing.
The best news is that a class action lawsuit was brought in Oregon recently. The individuals behind the case allege that the state is violating the Americans with Disabilities Act by not providing supported employment services, which help people with disabilities work in the community.
The first-of-its-kind suit is being closely watched by advocates as the disability community remains split on the appropriate role of sheltered workshops and subminimum wage."
The term appropriate role needs to be more clearly defined and it should NOT include the workers as capable as those shown for wage reduction. Those people that are capable of hanging one or two items an hour or possibly even a day to belong under this definition because what worries me is they will be left out in the cold completely. These people are not truly capable of a "true" job. It is more like a therapy session to help them feel they are working"and contributing. And they are to the best of their ability.

It seems Goodwill has taken this and totally abused the concept and the law. It is insulting to their employees. I have no problem with the state, regional and national management making substantial incomes. Think about it on the one hand we say that people that do this kind of work should be paid like those in industry and then when they do we complain that their incomes are not "right". In this case they are not right because they are making these excellent incomes truly on the backs of their workers and straight out of the workers pockets.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 3:11 am
Karen, You signed on July 10, 2013.
Your signature has been delivered to:
Goodwill Industries
 

Edwin M. (366)
Wednesday July 10, 2013, 4:54 am
Thank you Ellen and thank you AniMaeChi for the forward.
 

MelindaAWAY K. (172)
Friday July 12, 2013, 2:30 am
Hi everyone, here is the petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/954/532/124/stop-goodwill-from-paying-people-22-cents-an-hour/
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Saturday July 13, 2013, 7:19 pm
Noted
 
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