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Beware of False GOP Rebranding Efforts - Salon.Com


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Robert
- 518 days ago - salon.com
When Bobby Jindal says Republicans must change their ways, he doesn't mean change their policies or anything



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Roseann D. (175)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:19 am
Exactly, remember, they are not changing because they want to, or that they've seen the error of their ways. The only reason they are re-branding is that they are becoming increasingly irrelevant and obsolete and their base dies off, or wises up to their corporate *ss-sucking. Of course, once they regain power, it will be back to fascism as usual....like we've seen in Michigan with Emergency Managers installed circumventing the will of the people.

Don't buy their bullish*t for a minute.
 

Robert S. (115)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:22 am
Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Monday called on Republicans to “stop being the stupid party” and make a concerted effort to reach a broader swath of voters with an inclusive economic message that pre-empts efforts to caricature the GOP as the party of the rich.

In his first interview since his party’s electoral thumping last week, Jindal urged Republicans to both reject anti-intellectualism and embrace a populist-tinged reform approach that he said would mitigate what exit polls show was one of President Barack Obama’s most effective lines of attack against Mitt Romney.

(PHOTOS: Bobby Jindal's career)

“We’ve got to make sure that we are not the party of big business, big banks, big Wall Street bailouts, big corporate loopholes, big anything,” Jindal told POLITICO in a 45-minute telephone interview. “We cannot be, we must not be, the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys.”

He was just as blunt on how the GOP should speak to voters, criticizing his party for offending and speaking down to much of the electorate.

“It is no secret we had a number of Republicans damage our brand this year with offensive, bizarre comments — enough of that,” Jindal said. “It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party. We’ve also had enough of this dumbed-down conservatism. We need to stop being simplistic, we need to trust the intelligence of the American people and we need to stop insulting the intelligence of the voters.”

From the article,

There are two separate conservative narratives emerging since Obama’s shocking-to-them reelection. Everyone in one camp is basically saying, don’t overreact to this loss, because a couple thousand extra white votes in Ohio would’ve won it. The other camp is basically competing to win Andrew Sullivan “Yglesias Awards.” (Congrats, Erick and Gov. Jindal! And Bill Kristol, too!) They are sounding, suddenly, very reasonable. They are recognizing the flaws of their side and demanding changes. Just not actually any significant changes.

When you hear Republicans and conservatives soberly intone that Big Changes Will Have to Be Made if they want to Remain Competitive, listen closely for any actual suggested Big Changes. Go through the Politico story on its Jindal interview and you’ll see that he is actually not saying anything at all. Jindal is clearly pursuing the same agenda as he was before the election. His point is that this agenda should be branded slightly differently.

 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:27 am

Yep, by now every one has heard the clarion call for tax reforms, non specific tax reforms. Cut out some of the deductions, and we will not need to increase taxes. Poppycock from poopy heads.

This country needs a tax hike, no one likes it but we have a much larger government, have accumulated huge debt from wars of adventure, and a large and growing population of those just entering or are about to enter retirement. The proof is there for anyone that makes the choice to examine the record. The hirer taxes are the "job creators" not the few who have gained by unethical profiteering.
 

Jae A. (321)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:34 am
As their extremist base dries up and crawls away they might pretend to be more minority/poor friendly but they'll really have to show it with actions and not the B.S. lies type lip service of the past several weeks especially. Actions..that is the only thing that will show they are waking up to the fact that Americans have had enough of their over all fascist/Oligarchy/racism even thought they pararde a few minority 'poster race' faces.It's their fascist/oligarchy/racist mindsets that they have to act on and to also show that theyd are willing to help the nation more forward...economically/equality for all citizens ...not just economically for the richest in the nation or those holing on to their coat tails...Religious extremist and Teabagger klan wankers who have all but killed their Polical Party the over just the last decade and the Party will have to rid itself of connections to them...extremist are never good for a political party much less a nation..
 

Roseann D. (175)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:40 am
I could see the GOP doing some Machiavellian (Mucho-Villian) moves such as appearing to be reasonable and passing a few token bills that Libs want to ultimately regain power...and reverse them. I don't trust them as far as I can throw 'em.
 

Robert S. (115)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:44 am
Joe Scarborough asks, why weren't we as suspicious of big banks as we were of big gov't. Good question. I wonder if he really want the answer.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc-morning_joe/#49802012

Also, its interesting that they want to re-brand themselves more as Libertarian after this obvious defeat for Teabag values. Trouble for them is...we Libs are already pushing for an end to the drug war, and have been for a long time...with some recent victory....obviously noticed by "the right" and people like Mr. Paul.
 

Sue Matheson (62)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 10:56 am
thanks
 

Arielle S. (313)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 11:29 am
Or he could just mean they must learn to cheat, lie and manipulate better.....
 

Robert S. (115)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 11:30 am
Mucho-Villian...very nice.

"passing a few token bills that Libs want to ultimately regain power."

They certainly will.

If the position of Dems during the civil war must be born by me, (or so some here would have it), then it makes sense that what Republicans have stood for much more recently will stick to them stubbornly for some time to come.

If they suggest we should forget, we will remind them of the stench... made not a hundred years ago, but RECENTLY, dispersed by TeaPublican flapping butt holes.., hanging thickly putrid in the air, and how it sent sensible Americans running in majority numbers, holding their noses... for the doors.

They want to open the windows now, not for themselves, because in fact they like the smell, but only so others might not run away. How clever of them.
 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 12:29 pm

Banks work for a profit, the government is designed...WAS designed to for you. Notice how this conversation is changing again. "The government can't do any thing..." except build roads, and highways, bridges and dams schools, the entire infrastructure that keeps this country functioning. "We don't need no stinkin' government", except of course, when it does what I want. Or maybe someone remembers...."Protect Medicare, get the government out..." And....we should take that seriously, why?

We were not inspecting banks, financial institutions as the government was meant to do, removal of most of the regulations, which Joe Scarborough was strongly supportive of doing. Who could know what was going on when, no one was inspecting, regulating or following up on the daily transactions?
 

Robert S. (115)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 12:56 pm
Yes Kit, Scarborough thought he tries to seem reasonable, is only a little better at hiding his smirking right wing agenda, than the Baggers who he wisely realizes look stupid, and he keeps a distance from. The goals will not change. He and his only hope to improve the spelling.
 

Caitlin M. (103)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 1:31 pm
I agree with you about Joe Scarborough, Robert. His smirk speaks volumes! I can hardly watch his show any more. I also agree that any perceived "change" in the Republican agenda and presentation of themselves will be subterfuge at its height. They haven't a clue how out of touch with reality they are and will only pretend to be in touch at best. One can't be genuine of one doesn't know what genuine is.
 

David C. (29)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 2:20 pm
“It’s not going to be the last time anyone says something stupid within our party, but it can’t be tolerated within our party."
He is going to be so so right on that one guys
 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 2:27 pm

The spelling of...tea baggery? Ain't gonna happen. The bickering is already setting the hounds out baying at the moon. Noooo, Taxxxes. Absolute stupidity, it does not require skills in higher mathematics to calculate that from the beginning the Bush tax cuts were a mistake and an integral part of the reasons for the current situation in this country.

Why don't we have a national lottery? Buy your one dollar ticket as we do now in states that have a lottery. The money is to spent on so-called "entitlements" - the words does mean that once you have paid for something you are entitled to take possession of that thing. Those who are "entitled" to Social Security" and Medicare are those who have paid a life time into the system. Other "entitlements" are more security protections for all of society. Or maybe we have a lottery divided, buy one for supporting health care, or education, or dozen assorted ideas. People do love to gamble and they will gamble, legal or not, might as well put that money to an effective use.
 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 2:28 pm

Ah...but David it is tolerated and too often not just tolerated but supported.
 

Robert S. (115)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 3:04 pm
Limbaugh by all evidence doesn't care who wins. He makes money on telling the right that he defends "true right" and makes lots of money as they tune in to hear "the purity" of most despicable misogyny among other ignorant hateful and bigoted things held up and argued for as "principle".

And then win or loose laughs all the way to the bank.
 

Robert S. (115)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 4:49 pm
Rebranding NOT

You gotta see this. Short.....and sweet, if your me, laughing at wingnuts doomed by their own minds and mouths..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/ns/msnbc_tv-hardball_with_chris_matthews/#49829349
 

Rita White (1)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 4:37 am
noted, thanks
 

Michael Kirkby (80)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 6:32 am
Bobby Jindal needs to STFU [vous pardonnez mon language si vous plait] and deal with the problems at home in my favorite state. I guess that electoral slap in the face must have woken him up because he was sho' singing a different tune not so long ago. I'm very disappointed in him. He's very bright and personable after all but he is also a politician. The GOP has no one but itself to blame. I really did like some of the independent candidates who I think showed great integrity and promise regarding issues and the nation. JMO.
 

Gloria picchetti (279)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 6:45 am
I will pay attention to The new GOP/Teabagger dictionary/thesaurus. I want them to continue to lose.
 

John Gregoire (248)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 7:16 am
Let's remember that what we need is not polarity but a strong move towards a centrist attitude. This kind of post is not helpful.
 

Robert S. (115)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 8:52 am
The "singing a different tune", is evident. The sincerity of the Jindal singers to do anything more than make cosmetic change, is pondered AS IT SHOULD BE on this post, and is helpful to those not wishing naively to be their guide.
 

Debra Van Way (12)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 2:31 pm
His lips were moving when he was talking-yep, they sure were. Lying again. Where is a lightning bolt when you need one?
 

Rita White (1)
Friday November 16, 2012, 6:34 am
noted
 
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