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Alcohol 'More Harmful Than Heroin'


Health & Wellness  (tags: Drugs, alcohol, harmful )

Tarequl
- 1418 days ago - mirror.co.uk
Alcohol is more dangerous than illegal drugs like heroin, ecstasy and crack cocaine, a new study has said.



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Jose Ovidio Perez Morel (44)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 9:34 am
Now........finding the worst than all bad !!!!!
 

Maria P. (151)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 9:53 am
thanks
 

Amena Ravenwing (187)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 10:44 am
No surprise to me. Thanks, Tarequl.
 

KrassiAWAY B. (175)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 11:05 am
If we speak about misuse of alcohol - yes. A glass of red wine daily is good for the blood pressure, a glass of beer daily is good for treatment of kidney stones... (I don't drink wine and beer.)
 

Terry King (109)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 11:23 am
Noted
 

Michela m. (3938)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 11:56 am
Noted!!! Thanks, Ciao!! Michela
 

Carol H. (229)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 1:02 pm
I dont drink but I have seen in my family what it can do.thanks for the post Tarequl
 

Mary T. (186)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 1:45 pm
Noted and not surprise
 

linda b. (190)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 2:05 pm
Noted Thanks Tarequl
 

Julie van Niekerk (230)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 10:29 pm
I am so glad that I am not drinking.
 

gail dair (0)
Tuesday November 2, 2010, 11:35 pm
noted ty
 

AniMae Chi (407)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 10:09 pm
Pfttttt and it's LEGAL!!!
 

AniMae Chi (407)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 10:17 pm
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Carrie B. (305)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 10:19 pm
No surprise here!
 

(0)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 10:37 pm
Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has contentions? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes?

Those who linger long over wine. Those who go to taste mixed wine.

Do not look on the wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup, When it goes down smoothly. At the last it bites like a serpent, and stings like a viper. Your eyes will see strange things, and your mind will utter perverse things.
And you will be like one who lies down in the middle of the sea. Or like one who lies down on the top of a mast. "They struck me, but I did not become ill. They beat me, but I did not know it.

When shall I awake? I will seek annother drink,." Proverbs 24:29-35
 

Agnes H. (144)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 10:38 pm
I can't really say anything as I don't drink much alcohol because of the medication I'm on, but I've been told that I have been so ill that I was on the bottle of sherri at 8 in the morning until I fell asleep at night and then was sick all over the place. Hubby was left to clean up. So he put me back into hospital, which was the best thing he ever did. Right now I might have 1 glass of wine in company and only on special days like birthdays or Christmas and even then I'm being told when I've had enough!
 

Charlie L. (47)
Wednesday November 3, 2010, 11:05 pm
Noted, thanks Tarequl and Sioux D.

I'm sure all of this is true. I've thought for a long time that marijuana is safer than ordinary cigarrettes. One thing that is an absolute certainty....it makes me feel better than ordinary cigarrettes....lol. But even if alcohol is more dangerous than illegal drugs I wouldn't want it to be illegal either. I think prohibition in general is self-defeating and futile. The so called war on drugs is a senseless waste of money and other resources. Of the drugs that are illegal I think the more dangerous ones should perhaps be controlled in some way like alcohol is, but they should be legal. Marijuana should absolutely be legal. It should be as easy to buy marijuana legally as it is to buy a pack of cigarrettes(which are far more harmful).
 

. (0)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 12:50 am
Thanks!
 

Brigitte S. (20)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 1:24 am
If you abuse substances then you are allways in big trouble. The problem is that it is actually impossible to compair these substances, as they have different reactions to the body. I have never seen anybody wanting to jump out of a window after drinking one glass of alcohol. But when you take 1 LSD trip, well this is a real risk.
The problem is that Alcohol and sigarets are socially accepted drugs and the others are not. Because they are illegal there is a whole illegal activity going around these drugs and that makes them even less socially accepted. But do not forget that drugs like Heroine, XTC, LSD (and others) are LEATHAL and can be so on the first time you use them! On the other hand if you drink a bottle of whiskey at one sip you probably die also! But that takes more effort than swallowing one pil/taking one shot!
I agree it is difficult to kick the habit of drinking alcohol and smoking sigarets as it is so widely available, and socially accepted to use these drugs!
 

Catsy D. (69)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 1:24 am
Thanks for this. Because alcohol is legal, people drink it and abuse it. Is this the reason it is so highly rated in comparison to other drugs? I hate Alcohol, i hate the headache i develop after just a few sips, I hate being jeered by peers at my refusal and disgust of 'getting pissed' and I hate how it breaks up families. Ever since I can remember, I have never been able to fathom why alcohol is legal? Make it ILLEGAL. I have never tried any of the aforementioned drugs (I have 'that' many allergies, any first attempt would probably result in a severe allergic reaction) not to mention that If im depressed in my life, I attempt to deal with my problems, not drown sorrows in alcohol or drugs. I do have trouble coping at times, but I need to work through it. Isn't that life? Experience. We are meant to experience things in our life, not induce drug coma type barrers to run away and not deal with things or experience things. No wonder we are depressed as a society. All running away from who we are. All drugs should either be Legal or Illegal. Not some being legal and some illegal. ALL OR NOTHING. Why does the government not control things that actually matter (LIKE HUMAN POPULATION) SOMETHING THAT IT IS ATUALLY A REAL PROBLEM!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 2:15 am
I have a friend who was addicted to heroin. He broke the habit for a number of years and became an alcoholic. His life as a heroin addict was pretty dreadful but I must say that, as an alcoholic, it was slightly worse. As a heroin addict he could barely function but as an alcoholic he cannot function at all.. Now he has turned to the heroin once again and is addicted to both substances. Poor thing.

As I side note, I think heroin ought to be legalised, or rather the controlled use of it should be decrimanalised. It would prevent people from becoming homeless, people becoming ill, people dying. It will prevent countless homes being broken into and countless cars being stolen.

A pilot scheme was trialled in a Glasgow suburb and was a huge success. The addicts go to a clinic. Discuss the hopelessness of their lives, get the fix and shamble home to watch daytime tele. No overdoses, no burglary. Crime nosedived over night in the neighbourhood and the cost to the NHS is comparatively minute.

There is also the knock on effect of reducing gang violence whilst reducing demand for the drug. UK police chiefs have called for this, senior medical professionals have called for this.
 

chris b. (2474)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 3:33 am
It is a well known fact that if alcohol and nicotine had been subject to the same modern controls as other drugs they would not have been licensed for general use as they are too toxic! However there was of course no regulation when these materials were originally used!
 

Charmaine C. (177)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 5:51 am
Everything in moderation. First we will have to define moderation for people though.
 

Angelika R. (143)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 7:05 am
True, charmaine! Most things are relative. Thanks for the post,Tarqul. I agree with Krasimira on this but also have experience as mentioned by Carol H. above. Personally I used to like a glass of wine but haven't touched any alc in years.,
 

Kris B. (136)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 7:24 am
I think everything should be legal and people should live their life in moderation. Making things illegal does not seem to stop the people that want to close off the world from doing so.
 

Abdessalam Diab (154)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 7:42 am
Noted.Thanks agnes. For me both are harmfull
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 8:08 am
We have so many in the usa that would like to get help with their addictions but do not have the resources to do so. As with everything in this Country, if you do not have health insurance you don't get help, and even with the health insurance some policies will only cover certain treatments or limited stays, not always what works for that particular person. Others are afraid to use the benefit that is linked into the employment, for fear of job loss, also in this Country, that now makes a pre-existing condition so many people do not dare use their benefits for getting this type of help.

Even if one manages to obtain the help via their insurance, beds are limited as we tend to spend more money in this Country on prisons than facilities that would truly help a person, perhaps preventing them from ending up in prison.

As with all substances that alter the mind, mood, one must take caution, and as the old saying goes, "all things in moderation." Eating too much candy would not be good for you, it may taste great, but.... One of the ways of getting the American Indians to sign away their lands was via the "firewater" and the people knew what they were doing when they brought this "firewater" along with them.

So if you play with fire, sometimes you get burned, and although some schools do well on presenting the education about the illegal drugs they fail to bring into the educational programs about alcohol. I also find far too many families that treat alcohol way to casual, they drink around their children growing up, they leave the alcohol in unsecured locations, and the youth grow up not showing the respect and responsibility they should towards alcohol, but see it as when the family "had fun" and well it was left in the cupboard in the same manner as the cerals and canned vegetables.

Parents need to instill more education around alcohol, but if they are copying what they were shown, I'm afraid too many families do not treat alcohol as seriously as one should, yet millions of families suffer daily from family members that have fallen to the effects of alcoholism. Alcohol has been the ruination of marriages, has caused more terror to the children growing up via neglect and abuse both physical and emotional, causes time lost on the job, loss of job, creating bad credit due to neglect of responsibilites, loosing one's home, creates poor health, the list is endless.

I do not promote for alcohol to become illegal as prohibition shows that is a failure, but I do promote that this Country offer "free" treatment to anyone who requires it and seeks out this help. The savings from this free treatment would come back to us by having healthier and more productive members in this society finally, less crime, and save many families from ruin and keep them intact.

But I doubt if that would happen because no one can make a buck in the stock market in this sort of humane treatment of our fellow citizens, so we will keep going down this path of insanity, causing more people to pick up a drink once they have lost hope, can't make any sense of this senseless system we have here.

 

Luciana D. (35)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 8:22 am
Well, well ! Living in France, near Italy and Spain, not too far away from Greece and from other countries where the wine is excellent, I must say that at least 80% of the adult population here drinks wine (me included), and has been drinking it for about 3.000 years. Nobody here feels sick or being threatened by wine ! As Krasimira said, one (or two) glasses of red wine per meal is VERY HEALTHY, it belongs to the so-called Kreta-diet, or Mediterranean diet (vegetables, fruits, olive oil, goat or sheep cheese, olives, fish, a little meat, and a glas of wine, preferably red) this diet being recommended by doctors for a healthy life!
In the contrary, I've never seen a doctor recommending to take heroin, hectasy or cocaine for living longer !
My grown-up children appreciate very much, in some special occasions, drinking a glas of good wine, or a cup of Champagne (also very healthy), but drugs are forbidden in my house !
In my opinion, this article is tendencious and misleading, as it compares two uncomparable things.
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 8:55 am
I believe Luciana you hit on what is a cultural thing. The Countries you mention along with your own, tend to have a whole culture that surrounds wine, therefore the youth from a young age are taught the cultural aspects of using wine and as you say, the wine is excellent.

In other Countries use of "spirits" be they wine, beer, or hard alcohol does not seem to offer this same type of culture. Too many of our youth, see even wine misused, instead of a nice glass over dinner to some soft music and pleasant conversation, it is seen being swigged out of a bottle to get trashed, smashed, or drunk is a term most understand. The cheap wine, it is that cheap, and to the youth intent on getting a quick buzz, it is affordable. So with any article, I think one needs to take in an overall scope of where it was written, and how the alcohol is being used or abused.
 

Chiara C. (23)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 9:12 am
Yeah, it should be illegal... This and smoking. :P
 

Debbie G. (314)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 9:47 am
No surprise to me, I know so many alcoholics (in and not in recovery) and alcoholism and most other addictions are horrible diseases. Alcohol is also the only drug a heavy user can die from suddenly withdrawing from without medical aid. Thanks T.
 

SuS NoMail Plez P. (244)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 2:20 pm
Noted with Thankx. At a very young age {late 60's} I "experimented" with drugs and alcohol...FASTFORWARD...I became a full blown drunk and addict {including EVERY DRUG} for many decades. Yes, I went to rehab after rehab which was quite obviously much less inexpensive several decades ago although relative to the times. THE CHAOS AND INSANITY AND DAMAGE I did to myself and my family just didn't resonate with me. I SIMPLY DIDN'T GIVE A @#$#. I am now clean 20 years, and choose pain over my "medical challenges" than to go down that road again. I occasionally have a glass {A GLASS} of wine or a beer {A BEER}, but AM TOO TERRIFIED TO GO DOWN THAT UGLY ROAD EVER AGAIN. I thank GOD {of all religions and beliefs} I NEVER KILLED ANYONE. My recklessness was so selfcentered, as is in all people whom abuse either drink or drug.

I won't mention by name the person who said it is OUR personal right to do as we please. That is true to a certain degree in MY OPINION. If that person has children OR gets behind the wheel of a car I STRONGLY DISAGREE. Another person mentioned insurance. THAT IS PLAIN BS. I had the good fortune of $$$ and went to the TOP rehabs back in the day. Four or five over many years...I don't recall. There are FREE rehabs such as the Salvation Army. THEY HAVE AN EXCELLENT SUCESS RATE...EXCELLENT. Is it cushy and glamorous? NO. Is it a 6 month committment in very "humble" conditions? YES It all boils down to responsibility and how much you want it.

Sorry if I sound tough on this, BUT I KEEP MY PHONE IN MY CAR AND CALL 911 ON EVERY INSANE DRIVER with hopes they will only spend the night in jail rather than kill innocent children and families. I have had a 5 year old neise DIE, as well as my best friend in HS due to a drunk driver. THAT ALONE DIDN'T EVEN MAKE AN IMPACT ON ME. It sure as heck does now.
 

SuS NoMail Plez P. (244)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 2:20 pm
TY Sioux for the forward!
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 3:14 pm
I am the one that mentioned insurance and bed space. Perhaps the Salvation Army does well in the State you live, but I was a Social Worker for many years, and many times when the person finally wanted to get clean and into a facility there was NO space available, free or otherwise. It happened too many times, and once the person is sent back out that door, seldom can they wait for the two weeks or more for the opening of a bed to roll around.
I'm glad you have 20 years to your credit, many never get to that point, and yes, the damage to innocent lives happens all the time, so that is why I say, there should be FREE treatment and a bed ALWAYS available. The saving of one life, is more than worth it.
 

Kim O. (399)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 5:08 pm
Noted!!! Thanks Sioux and Tarequl!!!!
 

SuS NoMail Plez P. (244)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 6:13 pm
OMGosh Sheryl, I didn't mean to disrespect you. I am horribly unaware of what happens in other states. Even our Humane Society here in town is like the Ritz Carlton. I have lived an entitled life far too long and have spoken ignorantly once again.

I once attended a SKID ROW giant warehouse. {I was visiting a friend in S.CA and as no one would take me and all my organs were failing somehow I was talked into it...Thanks for AWESOME caring friends!} One half was for the homeless and mentally ill and a place the police left the folks off because there were no facilities in the jails}...the other was for recovery. It housed at least 1,000 people...800 on the oposite of the line I was on. I was too drunk and stayed on the skid row side for 24 hours. That meant lying on mats that were sprayed with toxins daily to TRY and keep the lice under control. Rats crawled everywhere. BUT I STAYED. I was so grateful. I was so grateful for the week I stayed to DRY OUT, even though the side I was on was only seperated by a long red painted line. Unfortunately once I got a LITTLE sober, I found myself too ABOVE THAT. I was fixed! I completely forgot about that...I had to pay "I think" $50.oo/day for their services. I guess I was fed up with another $30,000 bill.
I apologize for speaking out my butt. SHERYL, I meant no disrespect. You are absolutely right.
 

SuS NoMail Plez P. (244)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 6:21 pm
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Dandelion G. (381)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 8:51 pm
No need to apologize. It is we have 50 States, then within the States we have Counties, we have cities and rural areas. Not all areas are the same for services. This is a big Country and I think many forget how big and how unique just living in one place to another can be. So I only pointed out, what may have been a reality for one person living in one part of this Country may not be the same reality for someone else.
Don't loose sleep over it, I am just glad you were able to join the living again, for being addicted on anything is a very hard road to walk and is like being the walking dead.
 

SuS NoMail Plez P. (244)
Thursday November 4, 2010, 9:04 pm
TY Sheryl. I think I'll do a bit more listening and stop talking for awhile.
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Friday November 5, 2010, 6:09 am
You had valid input, a true story, a reminder of how addiction is so devastating, so continue to add to the threads. You spoke from your perspective, which is what is so good on this site of Care2, we always learn from one another as we all live in various places and can allow us to see outside of our own personal area. But never stop sharing. Have a good day.
 

Frank S. (456)
Tuesday November 9, 2010, 9:43 am
The big problem in the U.S.A., is that there are way too many people who can't stop drinking, after a couple of drinks! lol.
 

Frank S. (456)
Saturday November 20, 2010, 6:30 am
Also, there are some people in the world who just need to have, artificial courage! By the way, its tragic how they drink up almost everyday,as they state to those around them, "I'm are not hooked!" Yea right!

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