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Saving the Wolves: Michigan Indians Fight Wolf Hunt


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Carlene
- 553 days ago - lansingstatejournal.com
Indian tribes are among the most vocal opponents of a proposed hunting season for wolves in Michigan.



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Mariann Rannenberg (156)
Wednesday March 27, 2013, 11:36 pm
Stop the witch hunt on wolves. Leave them alone. These people are idiots. I say we hunt the hunters.
 

Danuta Watola (1205)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 4:50 am
noted
 

Bettina Galo (70)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 5:48 am
I could not read the article because it appears the subscription request. I close propaganda and leads me to the whole paper. Anyway I also have knowledge of what is. And it is unfortunate. Hunting of animals should be prohibited and penalized heavily.
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Thursday March 28, 2013, 10:24 pm
noted--ty
 

Roxy H. (337)
Friday March 29, 2013, 1:07 am
Knowledge is power.... get some
 

Roxy H. (337)
Friday March 29, 2013, 1:07 am
cause you have neither on both accounts ... moving on
 

Roxy H. (337)
Friday March 29, 2013, 1:10 am
really get sick of people posting about wolves when they know nothing about them... seriously... at least get some lessons. or try to? yawn, see a wolf story, must post it? Why? just leave it alone...
 

Carlene D. (239)
Friday March 29, 2013, 1:48 am
Wow Roxie what's the issue?....Last I knew no one is all knowing and that includes you.
 

Roxy H. (337)
Friday March 29, 2013, 1:54 am
this is about wolves, natives and Michigan... and carlene... it does not even open... this is my problem... sorry.. I see this and get grouchy... bad day.. and no... I am far from all knowing... I lost my wolves because I was wrong and they were betrayed by these laws... I want to see some respect for the wolves.. 25 years fighting for them and I could not save them... how long you been fighting for them?
 

Roxy H. (337)
Friday March 29, 2013, 1:58 am
I live up in this area... I AM NATIVE.... AND I PROTECT WOLVES...THESE ARE MY ISSUES... ya, you are in my corner... get educated, if your going to play in my playground. I expect you to be able to stand alongside me as a partner ...not have some story that does not even open...this is the problem...if your trying to help the wolves...do not waste peoples time
 

Carlene D. (239)
Friday March 29, 2013, 2:13 am
Roxie you don't know me and you don't know where I've been so to say I don't know something is quit the assumption on your part.........Bad day you say well I feel ya there but I'm not the reason for your bad day so don't make me a target to take your irritation out on.....You have problem with me message me and we will talk about it and work it out don't call me out in public and humilate me...I don't take kindly to it........My apology to all if this article didn't open for you it opened for me which is why I posted it to begin with.......Just so everyone knows My Mother was born, raised, and still resides in Michigan......
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Friday March 29, 2013, 5:06 am
I do not know why some people feel that they must be rude publicly on these news articles??!!
ARTICLE NO ONE SAYS THEY CAN FIND--CLICK HERE!!!
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Friday March 29, 2013, 5:11 am
HERE IS THE ENTIRE ARTICLE ...JUST IN CASE SOME PEOPLE CANNOT CLICK ON A LIVE LINK....

It’s an image of students at the Carlisle Indian Industrial School, a Pennsylvania boarding school founded in 1879 where American Indian children were sent to learn how to assimilate into a white world.

Mitchell — a member of the Little River Band of Ottawa Indians tribe — said his aunts and uncles were among the thousands of Indian children who were taken from their parents over a 40-year period and placed in boarding schools such as Carlisle. There, the children were forced to forget their language, their culture and even their native names.

“It breaks my heart,” said Mitchell, who heads his tribal government’s natural resources department. “My uncle is still alive. When I try to speak to him in our language, he says, ‘I understand everything you’re saying to me. But I can’t, the words get stuck in my throat.’ ”

It would take nearly a century — until the 1978 passage of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act — for native culture to enjoy a widespread resurgence, Mitchell said.

“You could be proud to be an Indian again,” he said, “rather than feeling like a second-class citizen or not even human at all.”

That long-fought pride is why he and members of other Michigan American Indian tribes are increasingly nervous about what’s happening to another important piece of their heritage and culture — the Great Lakes gray wolf.

Indian tribes are among the most vocal opponents of a proposed hunting season for wolves in Michigan. They’ve joined the Humane Society and other wildlife advocates in a petition drive to try to put the issue on a statewide ballot in 2014 and to block legislation passed in December last year that classified wolves as a game species.

The Keep Michigan Wolves Protected campaign hopes to gather 225,000 signatures by March 27. To date, they’ve gathered nearly 200,000.

Proponents of a wolf hunt say the animals have thrived well beyond the original population goal of 200 when they were placed on the endangered species list in 1973. With 700 to 1,000 wolves in Michigan today, Upper Peninsula residents say wolves are coming too close to homes and towns and are attacking livestock.

Wolf advocates, however, say the wolf population in Michigan is still too fragile to be hunted. It’s been just over one year since the animals were removed from the federal endangered species list, said Jill Fritz, Michigan director of the Humane Society of the United States. She said the animals have not had enough time to maintain and thrive outside federal protection.

For Indians, the issue goes much deeper.
Back to creation

In the beginning of time, the Creator made Anishinaabe, the original man, and his brother Ma’iingan, the wolf. Together, they walked the Earth naming all of the other creatures on the planet.

There came a time when the Creator said the two must live apart but warned that whatever happened to one would happen to the other. To this day, the wolf howls in mourning for the loss of his friend, Anishinaabe.

The connection between animal and man, environment and the human condition, are prevelent in nearly all indigenous creation stories.

For Michigan’s native populations, however, the wolf is a central player in not only their past, but also their future, said Aaron Payment, chairman of the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians.

There is a direct parallel, Payment says, between the eradication of wolves from Michigan and the decline of its native populations.

Though wolves once roamed every section of Michigan, they were all but wiped out in the Lower Peninsula and only a handful remained in the U.P. by the early part of the 20th century because of aggressive, systematic hunting by white settlers.

At the same time, Michigan’s native people became impoverished as they were moved off their land, their population a fraction of what it had been at the time Europeans arrived.

They can never let it happen again, Mitchell said.

“We are so connected to our environment,” he said. “Those plants and animals are a part of who we are, a cultural dimension of how we exist. Having them around us, our culture will flourish. When they are absent, our culture falls into impoverishment.”
Legal remedies

Tribal leaders say they have more than a cultural stake in the wolf, however.

They also believe the state has a legal obligation to give Michigan’s tribes an equal say in the management of the wolf and other wildlife species because of a treaty signed in 1836.

The Treaty of Washington was an agreement between the Ottawa and Chippewa nations and the United States in which the Indians agreed to cede 13 million acres of tribal land to the U.S. government — a move that paved the way for Michigan to become a state in 1837.

In return, Indians were granted unlimited hunting, gathering and fishing rights to the land.

In 2007, the treaty was strengthened in a court-mandated consent decree between the Department of Natural Resources and the tribes. The agreement requires the DNR to manage the state’s natural resources based on “sound scientific management” and to coordinate their efforts with the tribes.

Payment said the state is not living up to that mandate with the wolf issue. It’s not enough, he said, that tribal leaders have been invited to speak at public hearings before the Legislature or the Natural Resources Commission.

Further, he said the DNR has not provided adequate scientific evidence that Michigan cannot sustain the current wolf population without human conflict.

“What is the biological basis for a hunt,” he asked.
Still in talks

State officials hope to answer that question and more in the next few months through a series of public hearings and meetings with tribal leaders. DNR officials are in Marquette this week meeting with representatives of Michigan’s 12 Indian tribes.

DNR tribal coordinator Dennis Knapp said they’re doing everything required of them by not only the 2007 consent decree, but also a 2002 Tribal-State Accord, which requires each side to work together on issues that would significantly impact either government.

Since the wolf hunt is still in the idea stage — no decision has been made or even officially proposed for action by the Natural Resources Commission — the state has not violated the terms of the consent decree, Knapp said.

“The process is not at the point where a proposal is on the table,” he said. “So we’re consulting without specifics at this point. But we are inviting all Michigan tribes for consultation.”

Knapp added that tribes were also represented in a roundtable that crafted the state’s current Wolf Management Plan and signed off on the plan’s call for a wolf hunt should the need arise.

The Wolf Management Plan calls for two hunting options — a statewide recreational hunt like a deer season or a small hunt designed to help specific regions deal with wolves that are causing problems.

It’s the second type of hunt that’s being considered by the state’s Natural Resources Commission.

That’s not much comfort to tribal leaders.

“Whatever befalls one will befall the other,” said Mitchell. “There is a correlation. As the tribes began to heal, the wolf began to heal. Do we risk the possibility of the population being hunted beyond sustainability and lose them again?”
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Friday March 29, 2013, 5:12 am

Wolves in Michigan

The Great Lakes gray wolf was removed from the federal endangered species list in January 2012 after four decades as a protected animal. The animals have rebounded from just six known animals in the early 1970s to 700 or more as of last year. The vast majority are located in the Upper Peninsula.
In December 2012, the animals were reclassified as a game species in Michigan when Gov. Rick Snyder signed into law Public Act 520.
The state’s Natural Resources Commission is now considering the creation of a hunting season on wolves. The Department of Natural Resources is expected to make final recommendations to the NRC by June.
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Friday March 29, 2013, 5:16 am
BTW-Carlene is part Indian,loves wolves,AND DOES KNOW WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT,AND HER MOM STILL LIVES IN MICHIGAN,NOT ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE CAN POST ABOUT WOLVES,IT IS FREE FOR ALL.
 

Dee C. (212)
Friday March 29, 2013, 5:39 am
The article opened up fine here for me..

Thanks for posting this story Carlene..

And a word of advice..not everyone is going to agree..and as you can see some are just hell bent on being rude for no good reason.. Don't let it discourage you..They are the ones with the issue..not you sweetie..

Read & noted..


 

Angela Z. (100)
Friday March 29, 2013, 7:17 am
When I clicked on the link it took me to the article but with a subscription box blocking my view. I clicked the X to close it and the site took me to it's home page. Not a big deal. That happens sometimes.

I appreciate people that make attempts to save the wolves and get out awareness for the issues surrounding them. To tell someone that it is not "their" cause is the utmost of selfish ridiculousness. Speaking of wasting people's time, reading those childish remarks were a waste of people's time.

Keep of the good work, Carlene. Thank you for the article and a big thank you to Dianne for posting it in it's entirety. That was very convenient.
 

Bill C. (354)
Friday March 29, 2013, 7:33 am
I am one who gets the balance the wolf gifts us and also see the economic issues to others. IMO the wolf wins and as opposed to goimng nuts out approach should be to help both.

I saw in Feedback where the poster wishes to remove the story based on rebuttal, I 100% DISAGREE with that as the poster had the option to use shares tht you do totally control. News equals newspaper and the only removal can and should be done by Care2.

Free speech trumps personal need.

If we directed energy an money to compemnsate any stock animal taken while working to allow the wolf to cull the old and ill prey it naturally hunts in time we have a win win.
 

Carlene D. (239)
Friday March 29, 2013, 7:48 am
Hello Bill I don't to remove it because the rebuttal I thought about removing it because 2 people so far said they couldn't open it....

I can agree to disagree and still be friends however, putting someone down and telling them they have no knowledge and they need to get some along with a few other things that was said. That's out of line and uncalled for.

I don't want to remove the article now especially since Dianne was so sweet and posted the article in it's full length here...

 

Carmen S. (611)
Friday March 29, 2013, 8:23 am
Thanks for posting this, Carlene, and thanks Dianne for providing the full text for those of use who could not open the link, caring about wolves crosses state lines, and glad the article is still here.
 

Bill C. (354)
Friday March 29, 2013, 8:41 am
Why it does not open for some is the sign in for the site acts as a pop-up and some security blocks it

all I had to do was click the X and it was fine

Different systems block different input. for example Foad Runner had Care2 e-mail blocked as SPAM for a long time
 

Don Saunders (151)
Friday March 29, 2013, 8:42 am
HELLOOOOOOOO AND TY TO Carlene for posting a very informative article on wolves and the Great spirit and how the American Natives are connected with this magnificent animal and ty Dianne Lynn for taking time out of your busy day to bring us all this KNOWLAGE because like Roxie says "knowlage is power" and ty i just got some,
 

Bill C. (354)
Friday March 29, 2013, 8:43 am
I mean Toad Runner

wink
 

Carlene D. (239)
Friday March 29, 2013, 8:54 am
LOL Bill and you're welcome Don
 

Angela Z. (100)
Friday March 29, 2013, 8:01 pm
I have Road Runner.
 

Teresa M. (70)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 6:25 am
Thankyou for the post Carlene I found it fascinating and informative. I am not American but have always loved Wolves and now I live in Bulgaria they are closer to me we have wild wolves here unlike the UK and hunting and protection are a big issue to us here so it is interesting to read what is happening elsewhere .......BTW we also have issues with hunting wild boar and bears ...mainly sport and machismo rarely do these creatures cause a problem in this sparsely inhabited (by European Standards) country
 

Angela Z. (100)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 1:23 pm
Threats? Seriously? Publicly made too. Tsk, tsk. Not too bright.

You can tell your "Commander" (And, yeah, I laughed hysterically when I read that. Did you really write that with a straight face?) that since she is single-handedly the only force for good in this world then she may as well start her own network rather than use this one. I mean, ya know, people that imposing don't need any help from anyone else at all, right?

What a joke. Ha! Thanks for the laugh. My guess is you'll be deleted soon for your threats. Maybe even banned.

Commander. Haha!
 

Angela Z. (100)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 1:28 pm
Wow. All this because someone posted a news article?
 

Angela Z. (100)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 1:42 pm
This isn't a blog. Its a comment section under a news story. Anyone here is welcome to find news stories from across the web and post them. What isn't welcome is people posting threats to those members that do post stories.

I'm really not sure why you think you have some sort of ownership of over a particular cause. You did not write the article and neither did your (hahah) Commander. Who are you to cause her grief for posting here?

What I suggest you do is mosey along now and find someone else to attempt your intimidation on.
 

sierra d. (55)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 2:24 pm
this one? ok!got it! Nice that Dianne Must Know Carlene Better then one of her friends, sad. Our Mom actually liked Dianne and respected her. No respect back, this is a shame.
 

Krystal R. (123)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 2:26 pm
thanks for getting here
 

Angela Z. (100)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:08 pm
I don't care what group, or planet, your "leader" is from. It makes none of you better than anyone else and does not give you any special consideration here. This is not the place to make your threats, or whatever point it is you're trying to make, by ganging up on someone. Carlene did the right thing to try and communicate in personal messaging rather than in public, That is what Care2 asks us to do. It is also extremely frowned upon to publicly post personal messages and could get you suspended or banned. Just so you know. You should all probably read the Code of Conduct.

I asked before that you mosey along and instead you come back with more people. All this because of a link to an article that made your Commander/Leader mad? That's actually terribly funny/ You know that, right? I am glad you all have so much time to take from your busy lives saving animals to harass this woman. We wouldn't want you to be doing anything like wasting your time. You have given up so much of your time already trying to open links that don't work.

Now, kindly back off and stop being children.
 

Krystal R. (123)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:10 pm
maybe because we are children?
 

Krystal R. (123)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:12 pm
Oh you were not aware of the fact? Sorry, Yes, Most of this team are kids... and we are off of school right now
 

Angela Z. (100)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:15 pm
The wolves called. They said they were embarrassed by you.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:21 pm

Well that was some unnecessary tackiness.
 

Carlene D. (239)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 4:44 pm
LMAO
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:11 pm
I posted not only the live link but the article in it's entirety,Also I have only ONE commander and He is way above us and not on Care2,If someone dislikes me because of a post that is NOT my shame..the shame lies on them.The beauty of a C2NN is everyone is free to post their own opinions...if they agree,disagree or agree to disagree,everyone has thr right to post one they want as long as it follows Care2 rules,Not anyone else's rules.
I see no reason why we ALL cannot stick up for the wolves,not just one person.We all love them,if native American or not.
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:13 pm
Carlene do not have the article removed,do not give in to anyone.
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:33 pm
Also if someone cannot respect me just because I have a different opinion of them....that is what is a real SHAME.
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:34 pm
I ment to say a different opinion than them....not of them.
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:37 pm
My live link takes you to this.....Saving the Wolves: Michigan Indians Fight Wolf Hunt,is that not what this post is
titled????
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:46 pm
BTW,I never once said that the wolf army does not do good and never once in this post or in private msgs did I get rude with anyone.
And MY LINK DOES OPEN.
i NEVER IN THIS POST DID i SAY ANYTHING ANYONE POSTED WAS "FUNNY"
Anyone not liking a post has the choice to not go back into that post..that is what I do..I just move on.
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 7:59 pm
@ROXIE,STEVE and KRYSTAL-if you think un-friending me hurt me....you are very very sadly mistaken.I KNOW WHO MY FRIENDS ARE!!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 30, 2013, 10:55 pm
Thanks Carlene, for posting this very important story.

I do have popups blocked, and I'm not in the US, but I had no problem opening and reading the story. I tried via the link on the main story, clicking on 'visit site' and also using Dianne Lynn's link. Both worked for me, and led to the same story at LSJ.com.

I am not Native American, although the name Whisperingtree was given to me by a Lakota Wise Woman, and I honour it greatly. I have huge respect for the ways of the Native Americans and their culture, and for their care for the environment and all of nature, including the animals.

Respect for the wild animals around us is something that we should all practice, no matter what culture we are part of, or what part of the world we live in. Instead the human race seem hellbent on exterminating them all, either for sport of for greed.

So those who are doing their best to protect the wolves should not turn on one another, and become divided, but should instead band together to defeat the common enemy, who is strong and powerful.
 

Dee C. (212)
Sunday March 31, 2013, 6:56 am
How pathetically sad to enlist one's own children..or any children to come to an online site to fight your battles..
There should be no battle here..Carlene did nothing wrong in posting this news story..It was not her fault that the actual article was not accessible to all..And Dianne was nice enough to post the article for all to see..

For anyone to claim they are the only one who can post about wolves or anything in a intelligent way is nothing short of narcissism..not to mention absolutely immature and very sad..

 

Angela Z. (100)
Tuesday April 2, 2013, 8:21 am
Looks like a lot of the posts were removed. Thank you, Care2.
 

Leslie G. (74)
Tuesday April 2, 2013, 10:30 am
This article was very, very interesting Carlene. After reading this I am left feeling so many mixed emotions. My Heart cries and always will for the American Indians. I can not seem to find the words to express my sorrow after reading about the children who were sent away to schools to be forced (as I saw it) to abandon everything they were (are) and to live like someone they were not...This alone leaves me speechless and angry..I will never understand why the wolves were taken off the endangered species list when the population was still at an extremely low number, however, I have my own theory and it is about greed, money and power!! At this very moment, I feel ashamed to be part of the human race..on one hand but on the other hand it is information like this that keeps me going, gives me motivation and strength to push even harder to make some kind of difference in this screwed up world of ours...Thanks Carlene..Oh and by the way I had no problem getting right to the article it opened just fine...Noted, shared, emailed and tweeted...
 

Dianne Lynn Eakin (731)
Tuesday April 2, 2013, 10:06 pm
A big thank you to Care2.
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 12:15 pm
“Whatever befalls one will befall the other,” said Mitchell. “There is a correlation. As the tribes began to heal, the wolf began to heal. Do we risk the possibility of the population being hunted beyond sustainability and lose them again?”

When will the human race understand that humans and animals are inextricably linked to each other. Animals are gifts from the Creator to be cherished.

BTW, I opened the article with the article link and got the subscription box which I closed. That closed the article. But Diane, your link was perfect. Thanks so much.
 

June M. (105)
Sunday April 7, 2013, 6:51 am
thanks Carlene
 

Julie E. (352)
Sunday April 14, 2013, 10:52 pm
REALLY?

I am all about everyone being able to post whatever they want, at anytime, whether they know much about the post or not. And no questions asked about the reasoning behind the post unless you can be civil.

We are here to share, help and learn. Nothing should be posted that is directed towards anyone in a derogatory manner. Someone is going to learn or appreciate the post. If someone gets offended by something I am "sharing," well that's on them. It would not be intentional. Read it or don't! That simple.

Whatever I missed I am glad I did, because I am pretty sure I would have gotten pissed at those that attacked Carlene and others that I call friends here. I like how most everyone here on Care2 is willing to help eachother and even going out of there way. It goes both ways.

And we have choices. Be rude or shut up. Read a post or don't! Be friends or not. I have had my disagreements with people and we moved on without jeopardizing our friendship. That's what friends do. They accept you as you are. We will not always agree, and that's okay. Being openminded helps. Nothing should be wrong with disagreeing as long as no one attacks someone's character especially in a confrontational manner like on this post. I am so sorry Carlene to see you being attacked over something so stupid. And you too Dianne. And Angela, I like your comments even though some of what you were writing about no longer exists.

SO PEOPLE, LIKE YOUR MAMMA SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT YOU, IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE, THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!
 
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