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Italian FM: Hamas Holding Israel and Palestinians Hostage


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Cal
- 1491 days ago - jpost.com
"You are victims of this extremist entity that is taking hostage its own people and attacking you," Franco Frattini tells Sderot residents; "The Israeli gov't wants peace," he says in Channel 10 interview.



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patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday November 24, 2010, 11:03 pm
Ahhhh - at last - a man who is willing to stand up and be counted and doesn't give a damn what other leaders might say or think. This man is wise indeed - he CAN SEE THE WOOD FOR THE TREES.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (448)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 9:42 am
I couldn't have said it any better than the Jones'.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 12:24 pm
What rubbish!
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 1:50 pm
Noted. Thank you.
 

marie c. (168)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 4:13 pm
Noted thanks Cal
 

Judith M. (7)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 4:14 pm
Plolitcal nonsense
 

Terry B. (649)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 4:35 pm
If Sr. Frattini can understand this, how come so few other politicos can?
 

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Thursday November 25, 2010, 5:35 pm
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JOHNLEWIS HODDINOTT (77)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 6:56 pm
MOST PALESTINIANS WISH PEACE

MOST ISRAELI'S WISH PEACE

NO ONE WANTS TO SEE THERE LOVED ONES KILLED.

BOTH NEED TO RESPECT EACH OTHER , AS MANY DO ON BOTH SIDES

THE CONFLICT IS NOT A ONE SIDED AFFAIR,

EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE OUR OWN VIEWS ON THIS MATTER.

I HAVE NOTICED SO MUCH HATE COMING OUT ON THE ISRAELI PALESTINIAN

CONFLICT , AND A LOT OF VERBAL ATTACKS ON EACH OTHER

BRINIG THE CONFLICT TO THESE PAGES WITH VERY UNCHARITABLE REMARKS TO EACH OTHER,

INSTEAD OF ATTACKING EACH OTHER AMONG OURSELVES

LETS BUILD A DREAM OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP ON BOTH SIDES,

IT,S AMAZING WHAT A KIND WORD HERE AND THERE CAN DO,

IF WE KEEP ON BEING NEGATIVE TO EACH OTHER NOTHING IS GOING TO BE RESOLVED.

BE KIND A NICE TO THINK OF C2 AS A THINK TANK AND NOT A WAR TANK

SHALOM johnlewis


 

Bob Algeron (47)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 6:58 pm
Terry, I think he is not the only one. Germans came with similar comments recently. Canada said it long time ago.

As usual, political correctness won't agree with that.
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 7:02 pm
Noted , thanks !
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 8:22 pm
Ah Terry - THAT is the question.
 

Mary P. (157)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 10:08 pm
One more bull-shitter!!!. Bluffing himself and other ignorant people
Of the world. Ask all those innocent children whose families have
Been MURDERED by the EVIL israeli government; hundreds of
Palestinians left homeless after Israeli bulldozers destroyed their
Homes to build more illegal settlements for the jews on STOLEN
Land. Who is this Ignorant fool to make a FALSE statement like
That, when many groups of Jews, themselves Israelis; are making
A stand against the oppression, theft of land and atrocities committed
By the Israeli government against Palestinians.

Justice will Prevail and Truth will Overcum Falsehood.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 10:28 pm
ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC MARY - HAVE YOU NEVER READ HISTORY. HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE SUFFERING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE. HAVE YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE ROCKETS FIRED BY HAMAS, KILLING HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE. SO MARY YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE NOT HEARD OF THESE THINGS AND MUCH MORE. NOW TELL US - WHO IS THE IGNORAMUS HERE?
 

KAREN L. (10)
Thursday November 25, 2010, 11:36 pm
nonsense
 

Bob Algeron (47)
Friday November 26, 2010, 4:23 am
Mary, Israeli children bombed by Hamas rockets for 8 YEARS, THOUSANDS OF POWERFUL ROCKETS shot at Israeli villages are no less innocent that Arab children in Gaza. Hamas started the war, not Israel. And until Israel responded with force bombing Hamas, Hamas refused to behave.

Now Hamas behaves better and bombing went much down, but its genocidal program and ideology is still in place, and they are incompatible with the peace.
 

Terry B. (649)
Friday November 26, 2010, 5:06 am
Don't waste your time arguing with 9/11-style loudmouth mohammedean maniacs like Mary (with a Christian name) whose superstition dictates that they should kill all of the rest of us according to their manual of hate called the Queer Ann written by a child-raping polygamist genocidal manaic named Moe Hammod, but blamed on some imaginary doofus in the sky called allah.
 

Mary P. (157)
Friday November 26, 2010, 8:54 am
Terry; shame you poor thing; as hateful as ever!!!,Stop blinding people with your lies. Your words stink of hate for people you are so ignorant about. You are living in a delusion of darkness and cannot stand the shining light of truth i.e. ISLAM.
Check out the following videos to see the real TRUTH of Israeli atrocities.
 

Mary P. (157)
Friday November 26, 2010, 8:55 am
www.care2.com/news/member/697437818/2659912 - Israeli Atrocities.
 

Mary P. (157)
Friday November 26, 2010, 8:56 am
www.care2.com/news/member/258933434/2660237 - we shall overcome. Israeli atrocities.
 

Mary P. (157)
Friday November 26, 2010, 9:03 am
Jones - "NEVER HEARD OF THE SUFFERING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE"

Off course, I have seen 'FIRST HAND' how, they have suffered in the Holocaust, by watching them INFLICT ten times WORST, what they experienced, at the hands of the nazis, NOW, on the palestinians in gaza.
They are worst than the NAZIS. Check out the photos of Israeli atrocities on little gaza children on my PROFILE Page to know the REALITIES of the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 26, 2010, 10:14 am
Hamas Holding Israel and Palestinians Hostage, if he is right so what's about West bank and East Jerusalem?

Wave of demolitions in Jerusalem, Jordan Valley and South Hebron

Following the demolitions and evictions in East Jerusalem and the Jordan Valley yesterday, this morning the Civil Administration accompanied by large Army and Border Police forces demolished a mosque in the Jordan Valley and several structures in the South Hebron Hills.

Yesterday the Ministry of Interior demolished a Palestinian home in A Thuri, East Jerusalem, displacing a family of 7 including 4 children. The family had been living in their 60m/sq home for more than 8 years and were unsuccessful in years of court battles to resist the demolition. Settlers moved into another Palestinian home close-by on the Mount of Olives after a Palestinian family lost court battles to remain in their home and were evicted from the premises 3 years ago. A new court ruling this week gave the green light to the settler take-over.

Today Civil Administration representatives along with armed border police forces destroyed a mosque in the East Tubas Bedouin village in the Jordan Valley, following the demolition of 4 structures displacing a family of 12 yesterday in the neighbouring village of Abu Al Ajaj. The recent escalation in the Jordan Valley comes after a spate of settler aggression over the last month amid attempts by the Massu’a settlement to annex adjacent lands from the Abu Al Ajaj community, in the Al Jiftlik area.

Jordan Valley Solidarity have requested volunteer assistance both with recovery and salvage from the recent demolitions, as well as to provide accompaniment for local communities at risk of settler violence. For further details visit Jordan Valley Solidarity.

Earlier this week a Palestinian family was forcibly evicted from their home by settlers in Jabal Mukabber, East Jerusalem, and the Bedouin village of Al Arakib in the Negev was demolished for the seventh time.

International Solidarity Movement, November 25, 2010

Sources: ICHAD/ Al Jazeera

I tried to believe the PM of Italy, but I couldn't, I have eyes to see and brains to think.

Peace on earth is what we want, we don't wan't comments or statements, It would be better of a respected person like him to support the peace negotiations and state words to soften the tension and get the people close to each other.

We all know that peace is the solution.

So sorry Mr. PM I tried to believe you, but I couldn't, I have eyes to see and brains to think.

Qais
 

Bob Algeron (47)
Friday November 26, 2010, 12:34 pm
Mary, when exactly Islam becomes a LIGHT?

Are countries under Islam the leaders in technical progress? Are Islamic countries best protectors of Human Right of THEIR citizen? Are Islamic countries respect rights of women and minorities? The only example you can say is Islamists can make some light (and fire and noise) by blowing up something, but you must mean something else.
 

Terry B. (649)
Friday November 26, 2010, 1:30 pm
But Qais, stalled progress in the West Bank can certainly be charged to Hamass. Those fools just want to keep the pot boiling, and have even forbidden the President of Palestine entry into the part of the country called Gaza!

That's like the Hawaiians telling President Obama he cannot visit the islands.

As long as Abu Mazen cannot even speak for the entire Palestinian people, how can Bibi rely on anythng he says? He may try to speak for the Palestinian Authority as President, but unfortunately the idiots in power over Gaza prevent him from exercising any real authority.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Friday November 26, 2010, 2:14 pm
YOU CAN ALSO ENLIGHTEN YOURSELF BY CHECKING OUT THE ARUTZ 7 WEBSITE.....DON'T RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE TO EDUCATE YOU.
 

Doug C. (51)
Friday November 26, 2010, 6:39 pm
I see the usual suspects defending the indefensable. Israel is murdering people to steal their land. Can't make it any clearer than that. You can deny, deflect, cry victim for as long as you want, but the truth is getting out. You can't keep reprehensible behaviour like that of the government of Israel a secret. The world knows, many Americans and Canadians are coming to know, Israel has no desire for peace or qualms about killing people to achieve their goals.
Free Gaza! Free Emery! Jail Harper! Outlaw AIPAC! Boycott Israel!
Go to Arutz 7 web site, then go to ifamericansknew.org.
 

Riyaz R. (45)
Friday November 26, 2010, 8:44 pm
Wake up Morons
it is Israel(read Zionists) which is holding the millions of Palestinians Hostage,they are cheating Millions of Jews with 'Israeli Dream' based on violence and terrorism and they are also holding world Peace at stake for their sinister designs,it seems Italian FM had Pledged 'Not to see,speak and listen Truth'
wake up lest it will be too late
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Friday November 26, 2010, 8:51 pm
The ignorance of people like Mary, Doug and Riyaz would be astounding if it were not for the stupidity of what they proclaim about Israel - why are you dunderheads pawns of Hamas and PLO? Why not list here the number of murders committed by those heinous thugs? Do you think it is all one sided? Please tell us who you think started the wars that have brought about the situation in Gaza present day???? If you had a thread of honesty between you - you would acknowledge that IT WASN'T ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 27, 2010, 5:24 am
But Terry, if a group in Hawaii prevented the president of the USA to visit the island, that doesn't make him the president of the USA except the Hawaii island, Nor does that reduces his position as representative of the entire American nation. There is a problem between Fatah and Hamas, Yes. But this is an internal problem, like many countries around the world. And that has nothing to do with the being of the PA as the Sole Legitimate Representative of the Palestinian People. Whether, In Gaza, West Bank, or East Jerusalem. And the Palestinian people in the diaspora too.

So all the activities of the Israeli occupation, the settlers, and that stalled progress in the West Bank. because of Hamas?!

Regardless of my opinion of Hamas.. But what will the Canadian people do if some country invaded Canada and bombed Ontario, Alberta, Quebec.. destroyed and demolished homes, imprisoned citizens, uprooted trees. etc. What will any nation do if another nation invaded it and bombed it?!

It's not only a human instinct but it's a human right to defend themselves by every possible mean. Don't tell me that you will remain silent or any Canadian person will not defend their country. (God forbid of course, I don't want any people to feel the pain that the Palestinian people felt, and feel).

I can't agree with anyone says that the Palestinian or Hamas brought that to themselves. I can't agree that the hand-made "rocket" fired by Hamas which at most of the time doesn't hurt any person or cause any damage, Is an excuse for what Israel do to the Palestinians.

Israel reacts quickly, When Hamas fires a so called rocket Israel fires many rockets from a hi-tech fighters, kill many, most of the time civilians not Hamas, persons and destroy many structures. You can say that a reaction by Israel, BTW I don't agree with that, because there is a large gap between the two levels of the arms, and the level of the damage that each side causes. Knowing that the Hamas' rocket it a reaction too, reaction for the siege, the prisoners, the occupation.. etc.

So what is done in the West Bank and East Jerusalem by Israel has nothing to do with the Hamas policies or with the existence of Hamas. What is done there and also in Gaza reflects the systematic policy of the Israeli occupation against the Palestinians. Which really could be described as being taken as hostages by Israel.

Patrica and Edo. You asked a question "Please tell us who you think started the wars that have brought about the situation in Gaza present day?"
You mean the 'cast lead' as I think, The official Israeli reason of this war is to free the imprisoned, Gilad Shalet, solder by Hamas. So by that action Hamas initiated the war right?

But what do you think of more that 8000 Civilian Palestinian prisoners to Israel? BTW. Shalet is a solder and he was imprisoned in the field. during his mission.

So If Israel bombed Gaza in that way for one person, What should the Palestinians do for the 8000 Palestinian prisoners?!

Qais
 

Terry B. (649)
Saturday November 27, 2010, 1:09 pm
Good question about reaction to having your nation bombed, Qais.

I will leave a more detailed answer to the students at Sderot High School.
 

Doug C. (51)
Saturday November 27, 2010, 5:25 pm
Patricia and Ed, Good people of Israel and Jews of conscience around the world know Israel is the aggressor, invader, occupier, torturer and villian of the middle east. I have no hatred for Jews or desire to wipe Israel off the map. But I do have eyes and a mind and I know what lengths you Israel propagandists will go to. A British MP barred from speaking in MY country, because he tells the truth. A Canadian soldier MURDERED by Israel and MY country stands with the killers. Keep telling your phoney version of history, tell yourselves it will all blow over, bury your two faces in the sand, you are on the losing side of history, because the truth will out.
Free Gaza! Free Emery! And Pat and Ed Hundreds killed by rockets, do you mean four when you say hundreds?
 

Doug C. (51)
Saturday November 27, 2010, 5:35 pm
P and E I notice you like to call people names. I have a few I could use for you, but I choose to believe you really think you are in the right. The facts are all there for the reading. The Goldstone report, the plethora of articles in Israeli newspapers, the cold hard listing of the statistics on ifamericansknew.org all these sources can and have been verified and checked for veracity. I am not a dunderhead because I see vile cruel injustice and comment about it. I am a dunderhead if I believe nothing can be done about it.
 

Susan G. (0)
Sunday November 28, 2010, 7:01 am
this "if americans knew" site is not all that it is cracked up to be. the ADL says this about the founder: Weir is the founder of If Americans Knew, a Berkley-based anti-Israel organization. She often writes for the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, an anti-Israel publication that frequently serves as an apologist for Muslim American groups advocating anti-Semitism and support for terrorism. She also writes for CounterPunch, an anti-Zionist radical left newsletter.
Read what CAMERA has to say about her BIASED organization: http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=8&x_nameinnews=161&x_article=896
 

Terry B. (649)
Sunday November 28, 2010, 12:31 pm
C'mon, friend and neighbour, Doug C., don't go trotting out the thoroughly exposed Goldstone report as an objective source or anything.
 

Doug C. (51)
Monday November 29, 2010, 6:14 pm
The thoroughly exposed Goldstone report? You mean the report written by an admitted Zionist. A man with a bias, acknowledged to his credit, for the cause of Israel. Surely your denial has limits? As I said before, my sources can easily be checked for veracity and have been, they are the real facts. This is not just some conspiracy of Israel haters, Jewish Voice for Peace for one will confirm my assertions. But, sadly, I suspect that no outrage or indignity commited upon the people of Palestine will ever convince some people of Israel's guilt.
Please everyone go to camera.org and research the truth. They are unable to refute the facts found at ifamericansknew.org, so they deflect, deny, attack the messenger, the same old story, Israel is the victim. They do not wish peace nor seek a solution, the current situation suits them fine.
 

Mary P. (157)
Tuesday November 30, 2010, 3:47 am
Doug C -You cannot currently send a star to Doug because you have done so within the last week.

Thanks Doug, for your valuable links to the TRUTH of Israeli Actions. Your words are very enlightening. I couldnt have said it any better.

Qais - thanks for your excellent information of the truth of Israel and Palestine. I am sure it will be appreciated by the masses who truly wish to know the Truth and who stop believing that Israel is the victim; as the
Oppresive actions of Israel is now clear for all the peoples of the world to see and acknowledge that, GAZA is the REAL VICTIM and Israeli government is the REAL OPPRESSOR.

Bob - I am tired of your playing the same old record repeatedly. I educate you, but you never seeem to absorb the beautiful TRUTHS of the Light of ISLAM. You,like your good friend Terry, prefer living in the darkness of Ignorance. I dont blame you; after the darkness the Light will be too much to bear.
 

Cal Mendelsohn (1008)
Tuesday November 30, 2010, 4:01 am
Pathetic Doug, full of sloganeering and half-truths and Mary, don't pretend to want peace when the shedding of Jewish blood in rocket attacks seems excusable in the light of shedding Palestinian blood by Israel. Both have equal value--the essence of this tragedy ongoing. Talk about TRUTH when you see that ordinary citizens on both sides do want both peace and prosperity for themselves and their children.TALK about real victims when you know that all non-combatants are real victims from BOTH SIDES. The REAL OPPRESSOR is your lack of balance and fairness in understanding that Jewish parents love their children too, just like Palestinian ones--get off your soapbox and into the reality of understanding that every time we take sides, we exclude the innocents on the OTHER SIDE".
 

Doug C. (51)
Tuesday November 30, 2010, 8:25 pm
I have stated time and again that it is my belief that the majority of the people of Palestine and Israel desire peace. It is a fact that both sides feel equally the pain when a loved one is killed. The parents of both sides love their children equally. However to take the side of the victim over that of the oppressor is what is right. That Israel's government is engaged in a war on civilians is not even in question. It is the policy of the government and of a portion of the populace. There are also a good deal of Israeli citizens who oppose the vile tactics of the right and fight courageously for Palestinians and Palestinian rights. Look at the cold hard stats. Israel is killing people to steal the land. Hamas is killing people to survive. Israel is entitled to security but feels no one else is. They steal and use passports from allied nations, they kill Americans, Canadians, British or anyone else who gets in their way. Yes, killing, is horrible and done by both sides, but Isreal does the lion's share.
 

Abo r. (103)
Tuesday December 7, 2010, 4:11 pm
Well said Qais.
Palestinians in all villeges and citities at GAZA and West Bank and East Jerusalem are suffering , attacked and their houses are demolished by the IDF even more they are prevented to rebuild their houses at Gaza and at west Bank and East Jerusalem not just prevented they are evacuated from their houses and their land is stolen by settlers on the eyes of the worldwide who through UN recognize that GAZA , West Bank and East Jerusalem are occupied territories by the IDF since 1967.
No one forgets the crushing of Racheal Corrie on the eyes of the whole world by the US BILDOZER driven by the IDF , The IDF killed 23 person civilians children and women from one family ( essamoni) on the eyes of their children and women and 100 s of cases like that( murdering children on the eyes of their mothers, brothers, fathers and neibghours, murdering parents on the eyes of their children so on).
Putting GAZA on SEIGE blocked and preventing the Insani humanitarian aids to reach the 1.8 millions who are in need of.
US is begging the IDF to freeze the building of setllements for 90 days and donating it so many gifts and F35 and continus vito support and security in order to resume the peace talks with the palestinians and still the IDF refusing which proves to all that the IDF is killing the peace process,well cutting off the Olive trees the sembole of peace and burining this symbole the IDF burns the peace process.
 

Abo r. (103)
Tuesday December 7, 2010, 4:15 pm
If this Italian FM in Arabian country or in Palestine will say something differe , it seems he has certain need or bussines from the IDF,.. Sham to chang the facts and support lies and killers of children and women and sick persons.
 
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