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Israel Using Saltwater, Sewage to Grow Trees in Desert


Green Lifestyle  (tags: greenliving, green, environment, eco-friendly, trees, sustainable, world, garden, conservation, water )

Cal
- 998 days ago - timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Scientists in Israel are growing trees in the barren land of the Arava desert by using recycled sewage and saltwater.



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Joe Shults (37)
Monday November 28, 2011, 6:11 pm
Thanks for the information and noted.
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Monday November 28, 2011, 7:45 pm
Noted. Thanks for the info.
 

Tatjana C. (3)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 1:06 am
Saudi Arabia does that, too.
 

Stan B. (124)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 1:20 am
Israel has always been innovative when it comes to making the desert bloom.
 

Stan B. (124)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 1:22 am
Thanks for this story Cal. Noted and shared.
 

Marc B. (16)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 2:33 am
I like projects like this!
 

Patricia E. G. (50)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 3:18 am
The possibilities are endless
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 3:53 am
You can always trust Israel to come up with these marvellous innovations. Therefore if Israel can make the desert bloom - what is stopping the Arab Palestinians et al? Possibly too much like hard work? Thanks Cal.
 

Jill Vickerman (426)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 5:47 am
We could all learn allot from Israel!
 

Ge M. (217)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 6:01 am
Israel has been working on growing plants that live in drought conditions such as cactii, to ensure food for the future. With countries failing to secure their fresh water for the future, global warming which exacerbates climate change, the future forecast is that 4 of the 5 grain bowls will be desert, the northern part of Europe will be frozen and unliveable on and, if I remember correctly, most of Oz will be desert. But, probably not on the plus side, for the first time in billions of years, we will have an unfrozen land mass in the Antarctic. Of course, most of our wildlife will have died out and our seas an acidic sea with nothing living in it, but at least we will have food from Israel's research!
 

Brenda Towers (0)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 6:10 am
Very interesting!
 

Elvina A. (92)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 9:04 am
awesome!
 

Francisco Pires (1)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 10:43 am
That's good to prevent desertification of our planet.
 

Wendy K. (5)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 12:28 pm
Great story, thanks for sharing.
 

Bill Eagle (32)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 1:09 pm
Israel prides itself in finding ways to make the desert bloom.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 1:43 pm
And in the meantime, the Zionist Entity steals water from the Palestinians and the Lebanese. So that's alright then, eh? In any case, other desret countries, such as KSA have been doing this for yonks.
 

Andrea Connelly (94)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 1:57 pm
Maybe Israel can share it's knowledge and technology with places like Nevada, where the only thing that is liquid is money. A truly beautiful state but with great environmental problems, largely due to lack of water, a problem created by us, people, who did not know any better When one ecosystem fails, others will follow. We must learn from each other.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 2:33 pm
For John Duqesa: Please re-read the first paragraph of this article. the Israeli's are stealing saltwater,and recycled sewage from the Palestinians? Do you post just to post?
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 2:50 pm
I said, moron, that in the mantime, the Zionist Entity is stealing water from the Palestinians and the Lebanese. Can't you read?
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 3:38 pm
Hi John,

Funny thing about not having sovereignty: The water in, or flowing towards, the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not the Palestinians' to be stolen. Israel holds sovereignty, so all natural resources within its borders are Israeli, to be divided as its government chooses. I know that the peace agreements with Jordan and Egypt put the land under Israeli jurisdiction in trust for Palestinians, whom it accepted a mandate to prepare for statehood. However, the fact remains that not only is it under Israeli jurisdiction, but there are greater problems with Palestinian statehood right now than water-supply issues.

Also, how is Israel supposed to be stealing Lebanese water? I know that the wars destroyed a lot of infrastructure (which has, apparently, already been rebuilt), but the Lebanese water-supply apparently comes from rivers leading directly into the Mediterranean and which are too far north for Israeli interference. For the Jordan River, the only major source shared by the two countries, Lebanon is upstream (and only has a small tributary). If either country were stealing water from the other, it would be Lebanon draining Israel's supply. The major limit on Lebanon's supply from another country comes from its agreement with Syria over the Orontes River, where if the flow is below about 80% of its average, Lebanon is not permitted to take water.

I figured you would just be happy about Israel's advances in forestation. The trees are meant to turn the terrain from desert into something better for moisture-trapping. The project is meant to increase the total supply of water in the region. More water for everyone means less conflict over it, less "theft", and better living conditions, especially for Palestinians.
 

Philip Heinlein (471)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 4:33 pm
Interesting... we could all be there in the years to come.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 5:03 pm
I just can't believe what I just read. If you believe that, you are crazy. The Zionist Entity is in illegal occupation of the WB contrtary to UN resolutions and international law.. As for the rest, that the Entity has some "right" to steal what it sees fit, it's just to incredible that you have posted it.
 

Caroline Vimla (16)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 5:24 pm
Ingenious
 

Fred H. (31)
Tuesday November 29, 2011, 7:20 pm
A disproportionate number of innovations have come from tiny Israel. Just imagine how much better the world would be if the Arabs allowed Israel to devote its energy to peace, instead of to defense.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 12:04 am
Its no wonder the business men who live the part of Israel now referred to wrongly as palestine are so keen to invest in the Jewish State--- 16000 of them to the tune of circa $3billion dollars in 2010

 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 1:13 am
Let's have a look at some other things the Zionist Entity has been doing:--

http://theonlydemocracy.org/2011/11/law-enforcement-destroys-prayer-house-homes-school-just-because-theyre-for-arabs/

On that very auspicious day, the Occupation goons also handed out demolition orders to an impoverished village’s schoolhouse. Yes, that is the very same, one-year-old school whose pictures we brought to you in the last Villages Group blog post.


Now look.

Many people are unnerved, confused, even offended, hearing the terms “apartheid” or “ethnic cleansing” with regards to Israel, or even only with regards to the Occupation dictatorship Israel insists to continue running in its backyard.

I understand.

But I also know that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. This is beyond disgusting. This is beyond apartheid and ethnic cleansing and squabbling over terminology.

In its actions, especially in “Area C” that comprises 60% of the West Bank, Israel’s government is trying to murder the soul of a people and wipe it out as a nation – leaving only “human dust” that can be blown hither and thither and molded into whatever shape its rulers feel like.
 

Cal Mendelsohn (979)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 1:32 am
Israel really does have the best scientific minds in the area and does the most with what they have to work with--it's a shame that others in the region and even here at Care2 can't follow suit.
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 1:40 am
Hi John,

The ultimate texts of international law are peace-treaties. Forget any U.N. resolution which contradicts one: Article 1 of the U.N. Charter voids them as the purpose of the organization is to support peace. Now go and read the peace treaties between Israel and Jordan, and between Israel and Egypt before you comment on international law regarding the territories in question.

If Israel had engaged in ethnic cleansing, within weeks there would have been no Palestinians left in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. For the situation to be Apartheid, Israel would have to have been under some obligation to help Palestinians as it does its own citizens. They are not Israeli citizens. It is under no such obligation.

As for crushing the soul of the people, welcome to the Western world. Every Western culture has been crushed and defeated over and over again, the Jewish one more than others. Ironically, this is why we are so wealthy and powerful. With all our democracy and freedom, once rulers are established we let them walk all over us. Put another way, we accept the results of elections even if we do not like the winning party and save our rebellion for the next election-campaign. Since the Fatah / Hamas war following the last Palestinian election, after hearing constantly about how Arafat's ability to make peace was constrained by his party's inability to mold PA policy despite having won the first election, I have been of the opinion that perhaps the Palestinians' collective soul needs a little beating. Would Israel actually destroy it as you imagine? No. That is the difference between Jews and Islamic Arabs. If you want some clarification, read my long post from September 23 about the assimilation-model and the imperial one:
http://www.care2.com/news/member/602821732/2952563
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 1:42 am
What does that statement actually mean Mr Mendelsohn? Are you saying that Jews are superior to other people? Cleverer? More innovative? The Chosen People?

As for the rubbish about "doing their best with what they have to work with", well they do rather well at extracting 100s of billions of dollars out of the USI, of getting loans from the same that are not repaid, as well as money from the Zionists of world Jewry. So what they "have to work with" - on stolen land, to boot - is actually pretty good, isn't it?

In the meantime, "making the desert bloom" is being carried out in many Arab countries, using similar means.

And, of course, not a word from Mr Mendelsohn about the apartheid system operated by the Zionist regime both in the Entity proper and the OT.
 

Cal Mendelsohn (979)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 1:47 am
John, I said a long time ago that I didn't have time for your nonsense on atopic that you skew so recklessly to the fringe, but will defend your right to post it and I really meant it. I don't owe you an explanation here or elsewhere. Have a fine day!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 1:53 am
Stephen Brian

"Put another way, we accept the results of elections even if we do not like the winning party".

But you don't do you? "You" did not acept the winning by Hamas of a free and fair election and immedialtely arrested Hamas legislators.and armed Fatah to try to topple the Hamas government.

I read your long posts and told you at the time that I thought it was am interesting post. However, I do not believe that it's gen]mane to a discussion about what the Zionist Entity is or is not doing to a people who were - mainly - ethnically cleansed, nearly a million of them at the time and who have the right to return.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 1:56 am
Cal.

To the fringe? Not at all. This sort of post is simply a variation of the "pinkwashing" campaign, and tries to show an apartheid state in a favourable light, in the hope that other vile policies and actions carried out by it will not be noticed or excused.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 2:08 am
Stephen Brian

"the West Bank and Gaza Strip are not the Palestinians' to be stolen. Israel holds sovereignty, so all natural resources within its borders are Israeli, to be divided as its government chooses. I know that the peace agreements with Jordan and Egypt put the land under Israeli jurisdiction in trust for Palestinians, whom it accepted a mandate to prepare for statehood. "

Well, I have had a look at the peace treaty signed by the traitor Hussein. I do not see anything in it justifying your position above. Perhaps you could point me to that particular formulation there or where it justifies what you said?
 

Cal Mendelsohn (979)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 2:14 am
As a general comment, people are free to post as they wish articles of interest from whatever point of view and that's what Care2 is about. I welcome dissenting points of view in comments to articles that I post but I'm NOT beholden to anyone here or outside in what I post..

I would hope that those same folks who regularly comment on my articles would post at least a few articles of their own once in a while defending and advancing their points of view. This doesn't always happen, because I suspect it's sometimes just easier to always just comment on articles than to risk the exposure and negative comments that posting carries with it.--as the old saying goes "those that can do, and those that can't stir."
 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 2:18 am
> Israel Using Saltwater, Sewage
and just about anything else they can make up for their PROPAGANDA.
thus
" Mu-Kudoku (=~ no meritoriousness) " ( as Bodhidharma answererd to the emporer. )
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 2:24 am
Well, Cal, some of us may have busier lives outside of these boards than you and this might be why they don't post articles, but comment on them - of course it's easier.

You can post whatever article you like, of course you can, but others can equally, as you say, comment on them as they see fit as well as speculate as to your motives for any particular article posted or on the thrust of the article itself.
 

Cal Mendelsohn (979)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 3:13 am
All are entitled to their opinions.

FUNNY thing about posting an article, though. Most articles take about as long to post individually as a mid to large size set of comments on an article (li.e, about a minute, two minutes max). There are some here who should be in the publishing business with the size of what they post, but TIME doesn't seem to be a factor when they're commenting.

Why time plays a role in posting an article once in a while for those people is beyond me.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 4:30 am
It may be easy for you, but I don't know how to do hypertext links, for example!
 

Ron Avila (20)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 9:22 am
looking forward to the paper explaining the process. could really benefit the world.
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 10:02 am
Hi John,

This was a very different long post. You were not in that discussion. Read it.

Regarding respect for election-results. I meant that in the context of local elections, but your comment about failure to respect the Palestinian election results is still wrong: Fatah was elected in the executive and Hamas was elected in the legislature. The executive held authority over security-forces. Hamas demanded that the authority be handed over to the legislature and Fatah refused. The Palestinian civil war started over Hamas' failure to accept the results of the executive election. Had it simply accepted the law and election-results, there would have been no fighting. That made the fight an act of treason by Hamas in which it denounced the PA in the most thorough manner possible. That was a withdrawal from the organization, so afterwards it was rightfully seen as not the dominant faction within it.

Regarding where in the treaty Israel was given jurisdiction: Check Article 3. The mandate to help Palestinians to prepare for statehood, as much as is practical, is in Article 8.
 

Jo Asprec (0)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 3:12 pm
Wonderful news! Good for the environment! Even makes deserts productive!
 

JOHNLEWIS HODDINOTT (77)
Thursday December 1, 2011, 4:26 am
Israel, has done a wonderful job in the last 60 odd years,
the desert now blooms , Jerusalem is growing , Judea and Samaria are doing well with new Settlements as so to is the Golan Hights.
All achived through its innovations, and a big pluse for the world as the tecishnology is shared as Humanitarian aid around the world.
even though Israel has to survive under such adverse conditions with in Israel, And Neighbouing borders.

I salute ISRAEL.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday December 1, 2011, 4:51 am
And all done on stolen land and the misery of the Palestinians, the true indigenous inhabitants.
 
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