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Obama's Gay Marriage Stand May Not Sway Latinos

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Obama maintains a commanding lead over likely GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney when it comes to support among Latino voters. But those same voters are generally regarded as socially conservative, leading some to wonder how the president's support for

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Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 4:25 am

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 5:43 am
I agree with John Gregoire.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 6:18 am
Thanks for the information.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 6:01 pm
Roberto Ordenana, a 35-year-old native San Franciscan and LGBT activist, was on his way to work when he first got the news of the president's announcement. Days later, the memory of that moment makes Ordenana smile like he's won the lottery.

"When I heard about it, I was completely elated," he says. "I was taken by surprise, and immediately I just felt an incredible sense of pride."

Ordenana says he immediately called his parents, whom he describes as being like the president in other words, their thinking has "evolved" from the days when he first came out at the age of 19.

"They have openly met my friends and accepted them into our family," Ordenana says. "At the same time, they go to church every Sunday morning. And so they're able to hold both their religious beliefs and also the knowledge that LGBT individuals should be treated equally."

No one would suggest that the acceptance Ordenana found with his family is universal in other Latino families or the community at large. But his story might challenge a commonly held assumption that goes like this: Latinos have socially conservative views on religion and family; therefore, Obama's statement won't play well with Latino voters.

"I will be very surprised if this lessens his support among Latino voters at all," says Luis Fraga, who teaches political science at the University of Washington.
I very, very much doubt that this courageous, forward-looking stance on LGBT Equal Rights, will lose President Obama more than the tiniest handful of votes. Nothing "significant".
The article goes on to say, that Latino voters are pretty much like the rest of the American Public -- that they have been "evolving" in the same way over the last few years. Statistically, more and more of them each year accept LGBT Equality, especially the younger voters.

In a very few years, at the present rate, except for a very few dinosaur holdouts from Conservative Religions -- who are LOSING MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY younger people, in DROVES just because of their bigotry and hatred of Equal Rights -- this will be a NON-issue; and we will wonder, just as we do with other Minority Rights, WHY did the US ever accept "separate drinking fountains" for Black people, and why did they have to "sit at the back of the bus" and give up their seats to White people?

GO, LGBT people; and GO, Mr. President!!! YAYYYYYYY..... {deliriously happy!}

greenplanet e (155)
Tuesday May 15, 2012, 9:57 pm
There are gay people in most or every ethnic group, most likely.

Wednesday May 16, 2012, 6:43 am
Mexicans-Americans and Mexicans are a tolerant liberal to moderate lot, with the liberal side being the young and the moderates the older people. So I don't think it will make that much of a difference among us, however I cannot speak for the other Hispanic groups of voters.

Robert K (31)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 1:20 pm
Hispanics gay or straight should be pleased as this is a rights issue, not a gay rights issue. Standing up for any rights is a stand for all rights. When LBJ passed the civil rights bill he knew it would lose the bigoted South from which he hailed, but he also knew it was the right and moral thing to do, and so he did it. Not everything is political, sometimes it's a matter of doing the right thing.

Robert K (31)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 1:22 pm
It shouldn't be a reason to vote for him, but more so, it should not be a reason to vote against him unless you're a worthless bigot.

. (0)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 2:39 pm
"The President has come out in favor of comprehensive immigration reform". When and where these reforms stated? Does Arizona, Texas and New Mexico know of these?

nancy Bolerjack (1)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 5:26 pm
WE THE PEOPLE :) and to each his own..let live and may joy, forgiveness ,awareness, kindness, and some real true love come your way with peace and comfort in your hearts..and tend your mindfulness when it comes to others..we are our own, and i thank pure goodness for that..peace-love

Sheila D (28)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 7:24 pm
Why should this even be an issue with Latinos, or anyone else? We vote according to who we feel will do the best job, or, in some cases, who we dislike the least. Personally, I think Obama is just a little Right of center, whereas Romney has jumped off the edge of the Right. So, rather than vote for someone who has no empathy for women, Latinos, poor people, or anyone else who isn't at least half as rich as he is, I will vote for the guy who's working as hard as he can to turn the country around. Change is not easy, and it's not over night. It's also harder when the Republicans have blocked his efforts every step of the way.

Ray M (0)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 8:47 pm
Don't know what the big deal is. The feds have no control over states on this issue. It's just one man's opinion. Would Latinos rather vote for a president who supports people's rights and favors illegals already here to stay and become citizens or a president who doesn't support people's rights and wants to deport all illegals no matter how long they've been here? Food for thought.

Esther Z (94)
Wednesday May 16, 2012, 11:05 pm
Like Frank S. stated, Hispanic's range of social conservatism tends to follow age specific demographics. This is usually the case in every generation,though, regardless of race or culture, the young always tends to lead change while the older generations tends to fight it, wanting to hold on to what is perceived to be a safe way of life. So it's not surprising that Hispanics who are second generation of immigrant descent tend to be more supportive of socially progressive issues and not strict followers of their Catholic faith. This is evident when you see more latin countries passing policies that protect and/or give LGBTQ citizens the right to civil unions; something that would had been unthinkable just a decade or so ago.
Another example of Hispanics being part of the current social evolution is how gay characters are becoming common place in one of their favorite pass times, the "novelas" which are the latin version of the American soap. Hispanics love their soaps almost as much as they love their football soccer! So when you start seeing LGBTQ charaters becoming "beloved" soap characters, it just shows how the Hispanic social consciousness is evolving and becoming more attuned the rights and needs of the LGBTQ community.

JL A (282)
Thursday May 17, 2012, 12:35 pm
I think the Latino voters are more astute than some of these 'knee-jerk' surface analyses give them credit for.

Roseann d (178)
Thursday May 17, 2012, 6:12 pm
Sometimes you just have to do the right matter what. Have the courage of your convictions. That's something Romney cannot claim.

Robert O (12)
Thursday May 17, 2012, 7:12 pm
Latino voters tend to be pretty tolerant and much more progressive, openminded and modern than they are given credit for. They're definitely more open to change and progress than many other ethnic groups and definitely moreso when compared to the people in the GOP. Like it was stated by others and with great truth and validity, the younger people tend to be more liberal while the older folks lean conservatively, which can be said for most groups. Cuban Americans regardless of age however, typically lean more conservatively hence the allegiance felt towards Marco Rubio though he is in no way representative of most Latinos, just the conservative ones. Though the topics of culture, machismo and religion can weigh heavily in the Latino community (espcially where GLBT issues are concerned) I don't think it'll pose too much of an obstacle in terms of support for President Obama. If he loses any ground with Latinos it'll be for his inability to make immigration reform a reality during his first term, though I believe that failure has more to do with Republican obstructionism and the bad economy taking center stage as opposed to a slur on his abilities. In all honesty, Latinos have the same concerns that most Americans have, but those issues hold more urgency considering Latinos constitute the second largest segment of the American population but also face unprecedented obstacles and dire cuircumstances due to the blatent protectionism, racism and hatred that is being shown towards them regardless of legal status and country of origin. Come November we shall see.

Lloyd H (46)
Friday May 18, 2012, 6:16 am
The fact of the matter is that Latinos, just like Blacks and every other demographic group, is going to have a contingent of Christian Taliban of America members who are homophobic, misogynistic, racist Theocrats. You know the ones that I am talking about, those whose chosen religious ideology, or at least what they allow others to tell them their religious ideology has to be, supersedes ethics/the Golden rule. In short their Religion has their chosen God co-signing their denial of Equal Civil and Human Rights for others while demanding Equal Civil and Human Rights for themselves. Wanton self-endangering intentional ignorance does not have to make sense, they are choosing to let their homophobia and misogyny have them vote for those who would just as soon shot them at the border or use them as slave labor and then throw them out, Ah, well. Stupidity/intentional ignorance is suppose to be painful, but that seldom cures the problem.
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