Tuesday May 29, 2012, 2:10 am
Thanks

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 2:30 am
The Syrian" entity " is capable of just about every human rights abuse in the book.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 3:13 am
noted

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 4:35 am
Thanks.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 9:28 am
Yikes.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 9:31 am
Nobody cared when the US used syria's own human rights abuses to rendition and torture others that the US considered terrorists ( usually incorrectly). This was not even ten years ago. For some reason it's been decided this is now the newest enemy. Now people are horrified because now the US propaganda machine decided they can't use the abusers anymore?

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 11:02 am
Horrible. Thanks Cal.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 11:15 am
What, no pillow man to tell us different? cool :-)
Thanks for the post Cal

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 12:32 pm
Don't forget the Israeli Mossad have had a hit list for a long time. Obama also has a hit list that target even American citizens. Most governments kill, especially their own people.

Also, Syria didn't just decide to kill his own people. What was the spark that initiated Assad to think he had to kill to preserve his government?

Would Israel and the US act like wise if it's government was being threatened? Would they be justified in defending their governments?

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 1:08 pm
and it goes on and on...

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 1:15 pm
I think their backup list is the phone book.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 2:55 pm
thnx

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 4:43 pm
Unfortunately, there is only so much that the west can do to stop this thug. The U.S. cannot afford another military committment and Europe has its own problems.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 5:27 pm
Hi Terrance,

Assassination is ugly. The use of assassination for the purposes of taking out political enemies is never the work of democracies. The article however does not say that the people on the list are against Syria just the Assad government.

I know that the Syrian people have elections but 2/3rd of the seats are set aside for Assad's party if they run or not. One would argue that everyone can vote but the end result is a foregone conclusion. It is ingenuous to call Syria a democracy.

Since there is no peaceful mechanism for a transition from one party to another, revolution starts becoming an option. There is a strong argument that revolution has been encouraged by other countries. However you have to accept that it has been a product of the brutal and non-democratic government that has so enraged the people that they are willing to risk everything to change.

It is easy to say the the USA or Israel or the UK etc commit assassination if it is to defend the country not the government. In a recent situation, President Obama ordered the killing of an American in Yemen. This would be considered a violation of his civil rights and due process. However he was working for a foreign army with the intention of of overthrowing the US Government not the Democratic Party.

So in effect he had renounced his US citizenship and became an enemy combatant. Very different from a citizen of Syria wanting to overthrow a dictatorship.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 5:40 pm
All we can do is pray that they aren't found. Just read about Obama having a hit list (Alternet). WHF? It's like the harder the people protest, the more ruthless the heads of state get. Granted, Obama hasn't hit listed Occupy, but hit listing people remotely inferred to be Al Quada is NOT what our country is about. How would we feel if another country started to hit list Americans here?We either have stopped with Bin Laden or we are on a crusade to exterminate anyone in any country that criticizes our policies and agendas be it military or for oil and resources.

Tuesday May 29, 2012, 6:53 pm
The use of assassinations for political aims is not the work of a democracy. All nation will kill enemies that are sworn to destroy them.

The article says that thousands of people are on the list and that they are all Syrians. A list where thousands of citizens are targeted does not speak well of a government that it is that afraid of it's people

As usual with John there is only one enemy in the world and that is Israel. He hates so much he cannot even call it Israel.

Wednesday May 30, 2012, 2:28 am
John D
Who you call "Militant freedom fighters" normal humans would call mass murderers and terrorists. Nice people that have fired indiscriminately into schools and buses. Your friends like the Hakim Awad and Amjad Awad that slit the throats of sleeping children.

Oh yes tell us all about your good mates that build bombs in residential areas and hide behind women and children while they deliberately launch rockets at towns and villages.

You talk about the killing of children. how about Issa Bdeir, a 16-year-old high school student from the village of Al Doha. He blew himself up in a park in Rishon LeZion, killing a teenage boy and an elderly man. This is a boy that was used by your friends that Israel wants to stop.

Poor little Hussam Abdo, a mentally handicapped child that your friends in Hamas strapped explosives on. He was disarmed by Israelis. Oh Darn I guess it would be a problem for you that he did not blow up. Unlike so many others. No I would say that the Israelis have actually been more careful of women and children then your friends Hamas and Islamic Brotherhood who hide rockets and explosives in schools, hospitals and Mosques.

Wednesday May 30, 2012, 6:52 am
John D, The event you mention was in 2002 and it was a terrible disaster. 15 Palestinian civilians were killed as you say. Ariel Sharon said when he was told of the civilian casualties that he would not have ordered the strike. The intelligence was wrong and that the strike had been called off some 8 times before because of the presents civilians.

The target was Salah Shehade a founder of Hamas that was responsible for the deaths of 100s of civilians. He was not a "Freedom Fighter" he was a mass murderer and ordered suicide bombings, rocket attacks and stabbings. His targets were always civilians and mostly children when possible.

A few weeks before The Freedom fighter Salah Shehade ordered a suicide Bombing that killed Shiraz Nehmad, 7, and her sister Liran, 3, of Rishon Lezion, two of 10 people killed on a Saturday evening near a yeshiva in the ultra-Orthodox Beit Yisrael neighborhood in the center of Jerusalem.

The Nehmad family had come to Jerusalem for Shabbat to celebrate a family bar mitzvah at the Mahane Israel yeshiva in Jerusalem. When the Sabbath ended and guests started to leave, the Nehmad family gathered on the street outside for the havdalah ceremony (held at the conclusion of the Sabbath).

Shiraz and Liran were killed together with their parents, Shlomo and Gafnit. Also killed in the suicide bombing were Shlomo's nephew Shaul Nehmad, and two of his sister's children - Lidor and Oriah Ilan.

I do not parrot Zionist propaganda. I do not hate Palestinians. I have always made a point of separating the actions of Hamas and Hezbollah from the Palestinians. John D sees only Zionists. He does not see that there is any difference between civilians and parties and governments. Blind to humanity except for Palestinian.

To John people at cafes, children sleeping in beds, athletes at Olympics, Children in daycare centers or school buses are all legitimate targets for Hamas and friends after all they are only Zionists. Fair game for "Militant freedom fighters",

Friday June 1, 2012, 1:03 am
Shame on you CAL!! You delete all the statements of Truth from fellow members like John D and I!!

Why do you even post if you want everyone to just agree with your Own point of views?? Where is freedom
of Speech and the Right to let people read about the Truth opposing the lies on your posts?

You should state when you posts that your articles are ONLY for people who think like you! False and One sided!
You don't like listening to the True - Other side! Do You?

Friday June 1, 2012, 1:20 am
Phony ‘Houla Massacre’: How Media Manipulates Public Opinion For Regime Change in Syria

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Intelligent skeptics should see through the media’s smoke screen in order to work out what is really going on in Syria

Patrick Henningsen
Infowars.com
May 28, 2012

If you are still needing an academic tutorial on exactly how the mainstream media is able to generate a completely phony public consensus to support foreign intervention projects, you need look no further than the dangerous, fictional narrative currently being rolled out regarding Syria.

This past Saturday and Sunday morning, almost every major corporate mainstream newspaper and TV network in North America and in Europe ran with the average headline, “Massacre of the children as Syrian forces hit rebels”, giving hundreds of millions of readers and viewers to artificial impression that it was Syrian government forces – and not western-backed terrorist groups, who carried out a massacre on children and others days ago - even though, the true culprit of these attacks has not yet been determined – a fact which was only briefly mentioned later on in these very same media reports.

One of the UK best-selling weekend papers and most widely read online journals, Guardian media group’s The Observer, ran such a headline – one which shamelessly implied that the Syrian government carried out a massacre in Houla. This was used to shape public opinion in Europe, a reality which is later shaped for the North American market.

Corporate Journalism: The Art of Deception

It shouldn’t take a genius to see through this relentless western effort to takeover Syria, but not having learned their lesson from Libya, so many hard working and well educated westerners are bound to fall for it all over again.

Cui bono? Who benefits… from another civilian massacre? Clearly not the Syrian government. But western-backed terrorist groups who have been working to destabilize the country for over one year now, do clearly benefit.

Who would be the chief suspect for this latest massacre? How about the western-backed terrorists in Syria – the very same terrorist groups admitted to their own bombing campaign that killed many innocent people in Syria only weeks ago.

Important to add here also, that the latest child massacre in Syria has been reported as being “done with knives” – which doesn’t sound like a government attack to any intelligent reader.

Do not underestimate for one second just how pivotal the western corporate media is in advancing an agenda of global destabilization:

As we have seen used before in Syria and Libya, the alleged massacre in question is based entirely on unsubstantiated evidence, in this case its more uploaded ‘Youtube’ footage:

“Videos uploaded to the Internet and purporting to be from Houla show many dead and badly mutilated infants. Residents say some victims were killed with knives, while many more died from 18 hours of relentless shelling that left buildings wrecked and homes destroyed in a large residential area near the centre of town.”

Origins of these ‘Youtube video’ are still unknown, but the media machine and certain UN officials have already cited them as “evidence”.  Also note that in the YouTube videos, many of the dead children appear to be shot in the heads with fire arms at close range, but this has not stopped certain ‘UN observers’ from accusing the Syrian government from killing children with tank shelling.

Mainstream Media 101

In order to shape consensus reality, first you need to frame the event. Here the story begins by laying soft blame on the Syrian government…

“Syria‘s fragile peace process is in shreds after what was claimed to be a regime-backed massacre…”

… and then proceeding to carefully cover themselves, so to speak, but retracting the allegations deeper into the article:

“Major General Robert Mood, head of the UN team in Syria, deplored the attack, which began at midday on Friday, as “indiscriminate and unforgivable” but did not say who had been to blame.”

Notice how the article itself states clearly that the persons responsible for the massacre is yet to be known, but The Observer has already framed the conclusion within the headline and in the beginning of the story, in order to fit a pre-determined conclusion. This conclusion happens to be directly in line with Washington and London’s foreign policy objective of regime change in Syria.

Take notes. Because this is how it’s done, time and time again – another clear example how large media outlets can effectively drive reality in the direction of their choosing, and this is why so many millions of public media consumers are left misinformed and dis informed, eventually leading to a marginal public endorsement of Washington, London and Tel Aviv’s interventionist foreign policy objectives. 

Hours after this fake story was circulated in the GMT timezone, it made its way to EST, as the New York Times picks up the ball and runs it down the field. Here the story is further refined to streamline it with regime change policy objectives, codifying reality within North American sector, claiming that:

“More than 90 people, including at least 32 children under the age of 10, were killed in a central Syrian village, top United Nations officials said Saturday, accusing the government of perpetrating the “indiscriminate” shelling of civilian neighborhoods.”  

No real details are actually given to support this media-generated verdict, only that, “A United Nations statement said the observers confirmed that “artillery and tank shells were fired at a residential neighborhood.”

And finally, the Washington Post weighs in with their attempt to corner Russia and China on the issue, rounding out the artificial verdict today with their headline, “U.N. Security Council blames Syrian government for civilian massacre”, claiming that:

“The U.N. Security Council on Sunday blamed the Syrian government for most of the deaths in a massacre of 116 civilians in the village of Houla, issuing a unanimous statement condemning the killings that was supported by Syria’s staunch allies Russia and China.”

Shortly thereafter, the UN’s Ban Ki Moon and Save the Children charity weigh in with carefully-craft statements, but statements that are obviously framed and directed towards Syria’s Assad government, and not Gulf States, Washington and London-backed terrorist gangs currently operating under an all but official western mandate within Syria and from their NATO-sanctioned base over the border in southern Turkey. Reality is further shaped by the London Guardian’s Observer and others, with an official “international outcry”:

“The international community was united in its condemnation. UN secretary general Ban Ki-moon said the killings were a “flagrant violation of international law” while the White House called the violence acts of “unspeakable and inhuman brutality.” Arab League head Nabil Elaraby said the killings were a “horrific crime” and urged UN action.

Save the Children’s chief executive, Justin Forsyth, echoed calls for intervention. He said: “This indiscriminate killing must stop now. The world cannot sit back and allow this to happen. Children are suffering terribly in this conflict.”

Even the BBC have gone so far as to run 9 year old photographs from Iraq, and sell them as from this latest massacre of children in Syria. Any other foreign media outlet in the UK would have its broadcasting license pulled for such a propaganda stunt. In the face of such damning manipulation, why then would so many people still believe the mainstream media’s version of reality in countries like Syria?

But what is a more closer version of reality is this:

Western-backed terrorists, many of whom are al-Qaida, mostly hailing from outside of Syria, are fomenting civil war and carrying out a series of attacks on UN observers and civilians, in order to create the preferred western narrative that “Assad must go.”

Western readers should be under no illusion – your government operators are sanctioning civilian killing in places like Syria, and your corporate media are being used to place the blame on the west’s political enemy in the region – and therefore influence western public support for regime change.

After over one year of intervening through their own favored terrorist guerrilla proxy fighters and running arms into Syria – arms that are admittedly for going into the hands of western-backed al-Qaida groups there, the west has not yet succeeded in toppling the Assad government and installing a new puppet regime, as they did by using NATO military force in Libya last autumn. But western project managers like Hillary Clinton and William Hague have not given up, and if their corporate media outlets are allowed to determine their version reality in Syria, they will eventually get their “humanitarian intervention”, and the country will slowly be destroyed from within. Then regime change will happen.

It’s as simple as that.

The Syrian people are the ones who will eventually lose if Washington, London, Tel Aviv and the Gulf States succeed in destroying that country, as they have done in Libya and Iraq.

When this is done, then they will move on to destabilize Lebanon in order to unseat and neutralize Hezbollah.

After that, the door to attack Iran will be wide open.

There’s your World War Three in earnest

Friday June 1, 2012, 1:31 am
Cal, Why did you DELETE my post showing the American government's Hit List including their own American citizens???

Don't you like people knowing the truth and that is that every government has their Own Hit lists which
Includes their Own citizens too????

Cal please know that people of the world are NOT only members of care2; yes!! They are members of
other sites on the internet, where Truth is more appreciated than lies! Others who are truly searching
For Truth will discover those sites and you will be left all alone on care 2 with only like
minded people; WARMONGERS!!

Friday June 1, 2012, 3:46 am
Mary P. Are you off your rocker? Care 2 members cannot delete anything another member posts.
You guys are so quick to jump to the wrong conclusions and attribute blame.

Friday June 1, 2012, 4:01 am
Thanks Stan.

Mary, I don't have magical powers or relationships to the owners of Care2 and never have. Ididn't flag your comments as inappropriate here, which would prompt an investigation by Care2 management but I take umbrage with you're thinking I'm out to censor anyone.

What I do resent is personal attacks without cause. You hold yourself as morally superior Mary, but lacking the facts, you prove that you aren't morally superior to ANYONE and are just an angry and misguided human being! I will report your attack to cCare2 because it is against the rules and without basis in fact. Personal attacks are the only time that I report anyone on this site and congratulations, you are being reported to Care2 for yours here!

I can't tolerate character assassination and abuse and neither should anyone else here!

Friday June 1, 2012, 5:07 am
Cal, are you trying to tell me that John D's and my comments grew legs and walked out of your post; or
perhaps grew wings and flew away by themselves?

My concern for human life and opposing Wars , has nothing to do with any type of superiority!

Say NO!! To all Wars!! Its Murder of humanity, destruction of mankind!

Cal, " congratulations, you are being reported to Care2 for yours here! "

That's expected from you, its nothing new; you do it all the time!! Shows
your true colors!, doesn't it?

Friday June 1, 2012, 5:16 am
Look Cal. There is something very wrong with Care2 if non-abusive, factual posts can be removed. And these posts seem to be ones criticising themes of Islamophobia or the Zionist Entity. Mary P's post was not abusive and nor were mine, yet they went. You say they only are dealt with if they ar "flagged". So this implies that there is a concerted effort by a group of people to get posts tossed off the board using weight of numbers. Truly revolting posts that I have flagged (one in particular hoping that I would be raped by Afghan tribesmen) remained on the thread, presumably because I was the only prson to flag it. So there is a claque here, that is censoring views. Why are we here if not to exchange them?

Friday June 1, 2012, 2:17 pm
The fact that you can falsely accuse someone of doing something they didn't Mary, says reams about your character and not in the positive way you think. Get your facts straight before you sling your verbal arrows.--I didn't ask Care 2 to remove anyone's comments with the exceptions of your attacks on me personally.

I agree with John D--- I want all of the opinions to be present here, even those I violently disagree with. I can't make you believe that, but your conduct is reprehensible in the extreme.I'm not into censorship of views on issues, just censorship on personal attacks--they don't belong here!

Saturday June 2, 2012, 7:25 am
Cal in the past 3years i have read many of your 'admissions' of having reported people's comments and articles to care2(those comments and articles were by no means any personal attacks on you!)