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Israel Rounds Up of South Sudanese Migrants for Deportation


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Cal
- 842 days ago - globalpost.com
sraeli has begun rounding up South Sudanese migrants, three days after a court ruled that their lives were no longer at threat in their homeland.



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Past Member (0)
Monday June 11, 2012, 1:26 am
A court decision Thursday morning removes the collective protection that had been given to the South Sudanese in Israel. PIBA (Population, Immigration and Border Authority) said that those who wish to be accompanied and assisted by its Unit for Voluntary Departure, will receive assistance. [Paraphrased].
 

Hilary S. (45)
Monday June 11, 2012, 2:41 am
is that a bad thing?
 

Peace Monger (185)
Monday June 11, 2012, 2:48 am
"...with the Lordís help we shall get them all"/quote
Hmmm, guess this isn't the same 'Lord' as that of the Africans.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 11, 2012, 3:05 am
thank you
 

John S. (304)
Monday June 11, 2012, 6:20 am
Noted, they do have there own country now, but I'm not certain how safe they are.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 11, 2012, 8:49 am
protect life, prosecute those that seek to destroy our shared home and our fellow beings
life has value beyond measure
Peace and Love
 

Robert Pavlick (8)
Monday June 11, 2012, 11:45 am
Well why is that OK and acceptable for Israel to do, but not for us? How many of our illegals are here out of fear for their lives or persecution? Very few. They are mostly here to make money and send it to their home countries instead of applying for citizenship and spending it here. So why would we be considered so heartless and immoral to send them all packing just like Israel is doing with theirs??????
 

TERRANCE N. (65)
Monday June 11, 2012, 12:27 pm
Why let migrants in your country in the first place to export them later on? I suspect this is simular to what this country did to the Mexicans. When the cheap labor was needed, the welcome mat was out. When the work was finished and the exploitation was done; it was classic rational thinking empty of any kind of morality. Like father (Ameirica), like son (Israel). Cold, naked, self interest.
 

Robert Pavlick (8)
Monday June 11, 2012, 12:47 pm
Terrence makes a good point. In 1955, corporations here in my city imported thousands of immigrants to fill their needs for cheap labor, doubling the population and increasing the need for more schools, hospitals,housing and public services. That lasted about ten years and then all of the corporations began pulling up stakes and leaving Bridgeport, leaving all of these people jobless and in need of even more public services.

My city has been a disaster ever since and taxes have doubled to pay for new schools, city services and added police and fire protection to protect the citizens and to accommodate all of these people who have no jobs and too much time on their hands. Is that fair to the taxpayers who were originally here and do have jobs and have to pay the highest property taxes in the country??????? Of course the suffering tax payers tend to blame the immigrants when the real blame should go to the corporations. Either way we are screwed.
 

Jeffrey Keene SR (4)
Monday June 11, 2012, 3:29 pm
So, what about radical Muslims in the USA? S*T*A*B!! Send Them All Back!!!!
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Monday June 11, 2012, 5:12 pm
Hi Terrance,

There is a massive difference: These ones came legally as refugees. Once a court deemed that they no longer needed refuge from their homeland, the refugee-status was lost. Do you know how much people talk about "Right of Return" for refugees over there? To genuine refugees who came only because they needed refuge, Israel is just offering a free ride (assuming its court's finding is accurate, though its government must abide by the court's decision, right or wrong). It is, however, not accepting non-refugee migrants who claimed refugee-status.
 

Aurea Walker (200)
Monday June 11, 2012, 5:45 pm
That the country of Israel would use the words "ROUNDING UP FOR DEPORTATION" conjures up my mind of other times - specifically Germany in the 1930's. The people that are being deported are not going to be safe, they will face great danger and maybe even death. Could it be that these foreigners are becoming a religous and financial drain on their economy? Probably closer to the truth.
 

NicoleAWAY W. (634)
Monday June 11, 2012, 7:06 pm
noted
 

Past Member (0)
Monday June 11, 2012, 8:47 pm
Shameful disregard for lives. If it was SAFE, these people obviously would willingly return to their homes and families! Is there a way the U.S. and other nations can offer refugee status to all who need to escape persecution and death? Of course, the US government and many other nations are still oppressing indigenous people on their own lands, and need to remedy this ill-boding karmic mistake first!
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Monday June 11, 2012, 9:40 pm
Hi Yvette,

In their place, if you managed to get a shot at living in the developed world, even at being poor in such a place, would you willingly go back to South Sudan? Home is home so I would probably want to visit some time, but I might want to make a life in the place with over 10x the GDP per capita of the other and bring my family over if I can.
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Monday June 11, 2012, 9:44 pm
Hi Aurea,

That's probably a major impetus for this. Israel is a small country and already took in a lot of refugees from Darfur. Roughly 1% of the country's population is now refugees from Darfur. Still, I don't know if that would sway the court there. Still, if that were the only issue, then Israel would probably try to send them to Europe or some other safe refuge.
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Monday June 11, 2012, 11:44 pm
Israel should be commended for taking in these people in the first place, fleeing from danger. Notice these same people were the ones being raped, robbed and murdered as they crossed the neighboring countries around Israel, but Israel gave them refuge. Now the threat to them is over and they are being assisted in returning.

How can any of you think Israel, or any developed country should and can just keep taking in the billions of people who would like to move into them? Are you willing to pick up the bill?

It's one thing to take in people fleeing for their lives and safety (true refugees), and quite another taking in people who just want to make money (simply migrants).

 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday June 12, 2012, 1:59 am
Israel is doing what we would like our Government to do - send the boat people back to whence they came. Our Refugee Laws are non-existent - practically - and we have let in people who are making big money out of the misery of others as we have just found out. Our laws need tightening - we cannot allow these would be immigrants in en masse - there is only limited infrastructure to deal with them and we rate payers are heartily sick of the way our money is spent on housing, educating and feeding these people - when we let our own go without. To its credit Israel is giving the refugees $1200 plus air ticket back to their former abode.
 

Lauren Berrizbeitia (68)
Tuesday June 12, 2012, 2:51 am
It's a hard thing to be a refugee, here, in Israel, or anywhere. South Sudan is a country now but it's a far cry from safe or at peace.
 

Riley Anderson (46)
Tuesday June 12, 2012, 4:32 am
thanks
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Tuesday June 12, 2012, 4:45 am
There are some 120,000 illegal refugees in Israel which has some 7 millions people total, 78 % Jews and the rest Muslim and Christian Arabs, and other assorted non-Jews. If translated to USA population of illegal refugees, that would be ~6 millions. Obama administration had been sending those people out of US at higher rate than all previous administrations.

Africa is a basket case continent where population doubles every 20 years and the continent had long surpassed carrying capacity. Between religions (that promote patriarchy and child marriage and lots of children) and lack of education, which is associated with women being barefoot, in the kitchen and pregnant, Africa is sliding into chaos. Israel is a small country that cannot solve the problems of those people from South Sudan, which had been murdered by violent Muslims hordes (jinjavad) from North Sudan, which is led by a war criminal Bashir.

The best would be if the West helps educate WOMEN all over the world because that is the surest way to decrease the unbridled population growth. That is against the Islamist's beliefs that women should not go to schools, which adds another component to the complexity with which Israel is dealing, in addition to being surrounded by hostile Muslim-majority countries which are increasingly talking war again since they had been taken over by islamists.
 

Robert Pavlick (8)
Tuesday June 12, 2012, 7:50 am
In reply to Vlasta M, while I certainly agree that women in Third World countries need sex education, ultimately that really won't help so long as they cling to primitive patriarchal religions that make them virtual sex slaves to their men. Patriarchal and Theocratic forms of society and government need to go first before sex education can ever bear useful in keeping the population down.
 

Beth S. (332)
Tuesday June 12, 2012, 8:59 am
Every government's first duty is to protect its citizens and security, and that is what Israel's government is doing. Illegal aliens engaged in crimes against citizens need to be jailed or deported. It's a no-brainer, and Israel has the courage to do what a lot of other countries SHOULD be doing to illegals of non-refugee status who are criminals and/or draining the economy.

Israel is also giving the illegals being deported money and a plane ticket.

Meanwhile in Islamic countries where illegals involved in criminal activity against their citizens are just jailed or summarily executed. Israel is by far more humane than their Muslim neighbors.
 

Robert Pavlick (8)
Tuesday June 12, 2012, 6:57 pm
To Zhon: This is a site to make comments related to the subject. It is not a free site for you to post adds for your business !!!!!
 

Phyllis Baxter (40)
Wednesday June 13, 2012, 6:27 am
Here in Australia we have lots of young African men who have been given refuge forming gangs and threatening people, especially women. There is no work or place for the unskilled and uneducated in the 1st world. Cut off from their families and familiar customs and places- just being 'safe' is a very lonely prospect. South Sudan is as safe as an African country can be at present and is making progress. I recently went to a talk by an Australian woman who spends a lot of time in South Sudan There are new industries and optimism and it is time for these young people to go back and make a contribution and in the process feel a sense of purpose and achievement not available to them sitting around in a foreign land.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Wednesday June 13, 2012, 7:03 am
Robert Pavlick. It NOT just SEX education of women, but an education which enables women to say NO to being slaves to their husbands, or even NO to get married, because they are EMPOWERED to do their own business and get a job that makes them independent of men.

naturally, Islamic and other extremely patriarchal rural societies do not believe in letting girls to to to school and girls are often "sold" to old guys so that family had one less mouth to feed. South Sudan was under attacks from Muslim north Sudan, but now has a chance to develop, if their leaders are not as corrupt as the rest of African leaders, who are much worse than colonial powers that ruled those countries before.

Baha'is are right in their assessment that the peace will come when ALL WOMEN around the world get EQUAL RIGHTS as men. That is automatically OUT with Islam, which is extremely misogynistic, and some fanatic segments of other religions and cultures, where women are still treated as chattel.

WE MUST BECOME SUSTAINABLE which means that we have to stop overpopulation and over-exploitation of natural resources and causing damage to our ecosystems and human societies around the world. Some cultures are creative and some destructive.
 

Robert Pavlick (8)
Wednesday June 13, 2012, 7:55 am
Phyllis says: "Here in Australia we have lots of young African men who have been given refuge forming gangs and threatening people, especially women."

This seems to be the case all over the world and it really makes one wonder why these refugees seem to have no respect for the host countries that have given them refuge. It never seems to take very long before they start becoming predators or making all kinds of ridiculous demands of their host countries. Maybe that's the kind of behavior that caused them to have to leave their birth countries in the first place. Maybe they're not all just innocent, peaceful refugees. Maybe they're trouble makers and criminals that their birth countries are glad to get rid of.
 

Carola May (20)
Friday June 15, 2012, 5:43 am
Here's an article showing how Israel takes in desperate people and helps them - these being people who have been injured in the fighting in Syria: http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=ewJXKcOUJlIaG&b=7712195&ct=11791799¬oc=1

Who else in the region is doing anything to help these people? Right, only Israel.
 
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