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Tough Road Ahead For Egypt's New President, Islamists

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Challenges remain, however, as the ruling military council has effectively stripped the incoming president of most of his powers. The popularly elected parliament, dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood, was also dissolved.

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Past Member (0)
Monday June 25, 2012, 4:24 am
Thanks for the article.

Past Member (0)
Monday June 25, 2012, 5:57 am
Thanks for sharing.

Jay S (116)
Monday June 25, 2012, 9:40 am
The Muslim Brotherhood has been trying to take over all Muslim occupied countries for years, and their captured documents show how they are trying to 'destroy western civilization' too. One has to wonder why Obama has been so anxious to promote their Islamic rule, even after seeing what they've done in all the so-called Arab Spring takeovers to date.

Now he's trying to help them take over Syria despite the fears of the Sunni bloodbath the religious minorities face when they do (religious leaders from the region came to beg Obama to help them - he refused to even meet with them, on the 'advice' of his Muslim Brotherhood 'advisor' in the White House - whose side is this guy on?)

The new democratically elected Islamist president, Morsi, when he thought he wasn't being recorded during the campaign, told what his goals and the MB's goals were when they take control:

Morsi 'declared that he will "achieve the Islamic conquest (fath) of Egypt for the second time, and make all Christians convert to Islam, or else pay the jizya (the traditional non-Muslim tax forced on those allowed to live and not convert to Islam, commanded by Allah and Mohammed)," or leave that is their ancestral homeland before Islam's invasion and conquest.

Morsi also said "We will not allow Ahmed Shafiq [his contending presidential candidate] or anyone else to impede our second Islamic conquest of Egypt."

'His remarks are reported in the context of a private meeting at the headquarters of the Brotherhood's political party. Perhaps Morsi thought he was speaking to a fellow Islamist who would not expose him?'

Christian Copts are Egypt's original people before the Muslim conquest centuries ago, and have lived under oppression from Islam without religious freedom for centuries, but that looks likely to get much worse, as after the fall of Mubarak, Christians and Bahais are being ethnically cleansed right now.

Egypt's Constitution already limits their freedom of speech and religion, makes it illegal for Muslims to convert, states that Islam is the state religion and Arabic the official language, replacing the original Egyptian language. Copts still make up 10% of the population and live in fear of violence and discrimination. Thousands are leaving now. or

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Monday June 25, 2012, 3:15 pm
I have no faith in the Muslim Brotherhood taking charge over there! Am activating the one link above for you R&J

Christians Should "Convert, Pay Tribute, or Leave," Says Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood Candidate?


patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday June 25, 2012, 5:05 pm
Many dark days to follow with the advent of Morsi's election as President. The voting was very close - too close really to say this was a Victory for the MB..........there will be much infighting and Christians will not be safe in Egypt. Thanks Cal.

patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday June 25, 2012, 5:06 pm
Thanks for the link Carol.

pam w (139)
Monday June 25, 2012, 5:17 pm
You all know I have no love for Islamic ideals of "freedom." (They don't exist.)

BUT....everyone was overjoyed when Egyptians threw out Mubarek and declared themselves a democracy. It this is who they have's their problem.

The world can only stand back and watch as it crumbles.

Kerrie G (116)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 2:07 am
Noted, thanks.

JL A (281)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 1:05 pm
may Egypt change enough to provide the change the people sought

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 1:11 pm
We live in interesting times.

We supported their right to democracy and they've used it in a free and fair election, which a whole lot more than can be said for the 2000 American election. They now have an elected leader for the first time in the long history of their country. We may or may not like their choice, but it's for them to make.

I wish them well as they find their way.

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 2:48 pm
Roger, when you get elected a militant of this type: "Morsi 'declared that he will "achieve the Islamic conquest (fath) of Egypt for the second time, and make all Christians convert to Islam, or else pay the jizya (the traditional non-Muslim tax forced on those allowed to live and not convert to Islam, commanded by Allah and Mohammed)," or leave that is their ancestral homeland before Islam's invasion and conquest. ", you better prepare yourself for a war and for accepting thousands of Christian refugees, unless you don't care about them.


Nelson Baker (0)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 3:51 pm
Thank you for the information.

Gloria picchetti (304)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 4:19 pm
Tough road ahead no matter who won the election. Can't Egypt have twenty minutes, twenty hours, or twenty days before the rest of world jumps on what they are doing in their own country?

marie C (163)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 4:33 pm
Perhaps we should do the same with non Christians in the UK sadly a lot of them could not pay the tax as they are living off the UK taxpayer
.I know that does not sound very kind but UK is suffering similar to USA
Bob Algeron is absolutely right and I dread to think what would happen in UK in fact in Europe if his words come true.

Aletta Kraan (146)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 5:17 pm
Noted , thanks !

Robert O (12)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 5:52 pm
It's true that they have a long bumpy road ahead of them. Thanks Cal.

pam w (139)
Tuesday June 26, 2012, 8:07 pm
(I'm SO worried about the loss of tourism....tourism supports almost everyone in Egypt--the smiling, laughing vendors of tourist baubles, the cabbies, the felluca "captains", etc. Without tourists, they'll have no income! And I"m very worried about all the nudes and gods depicted in antiquities--you know---the priceless historical objects which hard-,line Muslims believe to be BLASPHEMOUS. These do NOT "belong" to Egypt--they "belong" to the world!)

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 28, 2012, 4:04 pm
Did anyone hear actually bother reading the article? Even scan it? Nope, right away here we go with the usual crap. If anyone bothered reading the article, it is about how military power has usurped the power of the democratically elected representative of the people. I am certainly not a fan of a religious leadership in any State, but as long as the process was democratic and human rights are not violated, it is the choice of the Egyptians.

The same baggers who are screaming liberty and freedom from rooftops are the same ones who prefer to see military governance or even better a sequel of Mubarak II who oppressed his own people. I gather that freedom and liberty are only supported by the Carol D's of the world, as long as the freedom and liberty supports their ideology.

Democracy isn't an easy road. It is something that has to be fought for, not given on a sliver platter. It seems the thought process is that once Mubarak was overthrown, the Egyptians should have become a US styled democracy overnight. BTW, these are the same people that didn't support the overthrowing of Mubarak in the first place. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the American citizenry is losing its liberties and freedoms on a daily basis and not a peep, except from the Baggers who want absolutely no governmental interference in anything, except in the bedroom, where they want to rule supreme.

This would have been an interesting topic, but as usual, it has to automatically have to become a Islamobashfest. As for Israel, maybe if Israel was a better neighbour, stopped playing the perpetual victim while attacking everyone, people would want to keep peace treaties.

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 28, 2012, 4:04 pm
Cal, thank you for posting this article. It was a good read.

Alexander Werner (53)
Friday June 29, 2012, 11:29 am
(5): people who like democracy, peace and tolerance may not like the fact that in some countries majority of the population elected an extremist militant leader, calling for oppressing his fellow country men of different religions and for war with a neighbor that returned land taken in the defensive war for the sake of peace.

These people may not like the consequences of this election: starving of Egyptian population, spread of Islamic extremism, hard life for Egyptian Coptic Christians and possible war with Israel.

Nothing to do with "Islamobashfest", just an unfortunate reality.
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