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Fact Check Vice Presidential Debate: Joe Biden And Paul Ryan, Who Told The Truth?

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Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan and Vice President Joe Biden made a lot of claims about the economy, health care, jobs and taxes during Wednesday night's debate

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Cynthia Davis (340)
Friday October 12, 2012, 2:42 am
Vice President Joe Biden

Stan B (123)
Friday October 12, 2012, 2:45 am
It was very close. Possibly Ryan won on points.

Carol H (229)
Friday October 12, 2012, 6:08 am
Biden for sure!!

Kamila A (141)
Friday October 12, 2012, 8:20 am
Ryan was all rhetoric and posturing, zero substance. Biden was babysitting, and basically took it, like candy from a baby.

Susanne R (235)
Friday October 12, 2012, 9:34 am
Why is it that both Romney and Ryan are able to lie with impunity? Reputable and award-winning fact-checking sites have called them on their lies --yet they continue to have their supporters. I find this to be very troubling.

Stephen Brian (23)
Friday October 12, 2012, 9:47 am
I spotted one interesting point of fact-checking earlier:

Biden voted for the wars. When he said he voted against them to try to present himself as a better fiscal conservative than Ryan, that wasn't a mistake. Biden knew which way he voted. That was a lie.

Thomas P (280)
Friday October 12, 2012, 6:12 pm
VP Biden - it wasn't as close as the "score" indicated

Past Member (0)
Friday October 12, 2012, 6:17 pm
If 'we' means you, Joe Biden.. then you lied and let US diplomats abroad die when you could have saved their lives. Who else will you allow to die when you (we) deny you have the information necessary to take action? Shameful!

Stephen Brian (23)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 1:04 am
I found it almost amusing when Biden tried to blame Ryan's cuts to security-funding for the deaths of the ambassador and his people. Has anyone noticed how much the embassy-security budget has grown lately? The U.S. security-forces' primary weakness there is, like in many of its military-operations, the rules of engagement forced upon it by issues of political correctness.

jan b (5)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 5:39 am
The outpost in Benghazi was unguarded by Marines, as all full US embassies are. The Benghazi post was an INTERIM facility with lesser security. German and England embassies were also attacked.
Mitt Romney already attacked the White House response to the crisis in Cairo before news even had emerged of Stevens' death in Libya. !!! ( What a jerk ) .. President Obama said Romney "seems to have a tendency to shoot first and aim later."
Lybia did not let the FBI . What do republicans want ....send in troops and start another war for the profiteers of war ? I guess so.... Also the investigation into the White House and what their interim statements meant is a waste of money and politically motivated at this time and we can't afford to waste money like the republicans like to waste it. .

Stephen Brian (23)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 8:36 am
Hi Janice :)

There was a report on September 10 that a militia had threatened the embassy in Cairo. Romney would have been justified in talking about the lack of readiness there even before the attack took place. Also, apparently Sephens had requested additional security when travelling outside the embassy, and that request was denied by the State department.

Is there a tax-funded investigation into the White House, or is that investigation a part of the Republican campaign? It does sound politically motivated, but, if it is part of a campaign, that is only to be expected.

Arielle S (313)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 9:33 am
Joe Biden won and Mr. Bean - er, um, Ryan, looked like the goof he is.

Susanne R (235)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 10:13 am
Heidi said: "Who else will you allow to die when you (we) deny you have the information necessary to take action? Shameful!

According to the NY Times:

"On Aug. 6, 2001, President George W. Bush received a classified review of the threats posed by Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network, Al Qaeda. That morning’s “presidential daily brief” — the top-secret document prepared by America’s intelligence agencies — featured the now-infamous heading: “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” A few weeks later, on 9/11, Al Qaeda accomplished that goal."

Over 3,000 people died as a result of that attack, and life as we knew it changed forever. I hope that answers your question.

Esther Z (94)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 11:35 am
Noticed how thirsty Ryan was during the debate? It seemed like Ryan took a sip of water after every lie!

Tamara Hayes (185)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 3:02 pm
Very interesting. Thanks.

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 4:26 pm
Noted. Janice said it absolutely right, above. Reps voted to de-fund the State Dept. They would rather prop up private contractors, and their stock shares, by invading even more countries. If we don't pay for peace, we're going to end up paying a lot more for war.
And, Susanne could add that the Aug. 6th memo was only the last in a long line of memos trying to wake Dumbya up to the threat of an Al Qaeda attack. Richard Clarke has a couple of great books full of facts. Intelligence KNEW something big was stirring months prior. In Europe, all commercial airline crews were notified that they needed to take special care with their uniforms and I.D.'s because of potential theft. "Terrorists" could steal these and get aboard an airline. In fact, there were a couple of incidents of crew members missing some items back then.

Alexandra Rodda (180)
Friday October 19, 2012, 9:36 pm
When white is black and up is down and war is peace and love is hate in the Orwellian republican mindset, Ryan must be forgiven for being a bit confused at times. I think that comparing him to Joe Biden is unfair. Ryan should be given a generous handicap. Of course, that is what Republicans give him anyway. Because of that, in Newsmax, Fox News etc, he comes up squeaky clean and truthful.

P A (117)
Sunday October 21, 2012, 12:58 am
Of course Vice-President Joe Biden told the truth - and even sold himself short on occasion! Green stars to Alexandra and Janice B - wanted to give another star to Susanne R but the computer wouldn't let me yet!
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