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Does President Obama Have An Advantage in the Fiscal Cliff Battle


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: fiscal cliff negotiations, usa, politics, obama, congress, republicans, democrats, news )

Cal
- 610 days ago - theweek.com
A newly empowered Obama is heading into Round Two of budget talks with Speaker John Boehner



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Roseann D. (178)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 3:06 pm
Well, I'm sick of the GOP playing political roulette with our future. Get with the Obama mandate or get out of the way. We'll remember for the next election cycle. I don't see any reason for these Obstructionists to be collecting paychecks for doing nothing but cause harm. What makes them think they are ENTITLED to paychecks for working against the American people?
 

Yvonne White (231)
Thursday November 8, 2012, 4:56 pm
The President can Take a FORCEFUL, Mandated Stand on this! He can't run again, so he has Nothing to lose & everything to gain for his place in History & the American people! Americans overwhelmingly want the rich to pay more taxes and NO Cutting Social Security or Medicare!!!
 

Jay curnow (202)
Friday November 9, 2012, 2:08 am
Warmest Congratulations to the President (& his Family)....Patient Determination,Compassion & Tolerance when faced with adversity has helped secure the added time He needed!...& Very Best Wishes for the unenviable tasks ahead!
 

John S. (297)
Friday November 9, 2012, 3:58 am
Noted, too bad congressman represent those that elected them.
 

Carlene V. (201)
Friday November 9, 2012, 8:59 am
Obama has the advantage however, just saw Boehner giving a news conference and he appeared to be just as steadfast as before on not raising taxes on the wealthy. You know, all those jobs they've created by paying less taxes...how dumb do they think we are? They just got spanked by the electorate and still don't want to change. Get rid of the lobbyist, Grover Norquist, and maybe things will change.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Friday November 9, 2012, 9:02 am
Unfortunately as was proven by the last round of "Talks With Boehner", Boehner has absolutely no standing to speak for the Repug/Tea Bagged House. And even if Sir John of Orange could actually be counted on to control and/or speak for the House Majority the first and so far only words out of his mouth have been nothing except to reiterate the Romney/Ryan Tax and Economic plans that the Majority of Americans VOTED AGAINST. I am also totaly sick of the scare tactics involved in the term "Fiscal Cliff" which is complete crap. I stand with both of my Senators Murry and Cantwell tha going off the cliff is a great idea. First it renders the power of Grover Noquist null and void, as all of the intended to be temporary Bush tax cuts end and then all of the Tax cuts for the 98% of Americans can not actually be opposed. Second the damn thing is not a cliff what does happen happens over an extended period of time and the "disasterous" effects can be be retro-actively avoided by legislation passed after Jan 1,2013. The entire sequestration/fical cliff was designed to force those elected to govern to actually govern and not politic, unfortunately the Repug/Tea Bagged have no interest in governing only playing politics to further their agenda, And that agenda will as usual for Repugs mean bigger more expensive government and a bigger deficit and a bigger debt. The really disgusting lie from the Repugs about the Debt is that from 2009-2012 the Obama/Dem policies actually reduced the US debt by $1.4 Trillion while the W Bush/Repug policies from to 2001-2008 added $7 Trillion, $3 Trillion of that was just the Bush Tax Cuts.
 

Michael Kirkby (83)
Friday November 9, 2012, 10:38 am
This could have been solved two years ago if the GOP hadn't filibustered and dug their heels in like six year olds in a sand box. Then people wonder why I don't belong to any political party. I hope they can put the partisan politics aside and work together.
Don't be surprised if for cooperating with Obama they green light the Keystone Pipeline. We may win a few battles but in the long run I think we'll lose. There's just too much money at stake. Take a look at the Bloomber October Issue - "Psssst - Wanna Park Some Oil?"
 

Arielle S. (315)
Friday November 9, 2012, 11:12 am
McConnell and Boehner have to worry about re-election - Obama does not. I wrote to M & B asking them to rise above the nonsense and get with the program....based on this election, all of the old guard should be nervous.
 

Lynn Squance (224)
Friday November 9, 2012, 11:50 am
Ultimately, in all this bear scat that is the "fiscal cliff", the ones that lose are 99% of the American people.

"Tea Party leaders do not see Obama winning a mandate on taxes: They "have convinced themselves that Romney lost because he wasn't conservative enough." "

There they are, the ultra conservatives fingering Romney for the GOP defeat. What they really need to do is examine their own motives and methods which I doubt they will do as they are schemers and crooks, not intelligent thinkers. The Republican/Teabaggers need to dump Norquist and Rove and all their baggage and learn how to negotiate intelligently so that the winners are the American people.

"Squeezed between Obama and the Tea Party, Boehner may very well see conservatives as the greatest threat to his speakership.
"Republican leader Boehner may be ready to bargain""

Can you imagine what the political scene would look like if the Teabaggers were not attached to the Republicans like a young child holding its mother's hand for security?

This is about working together to come to a solution.

Someone said "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time. But you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Same principle here. Why should the 99%, who number more by hundreds of millions more, be dictated to by the 1%?

 

Past Member (0)
Friday November 9, 2012, 12:41 pm
We won't have the advantage against fascism until the people say/vote so. Fox still has a strangle hold on a lot of so called patriotic americans. That said, Republicans in the house still have the shovel. Will they dig deeper and cement their demise of throw a little dirt back in to lull us into thinking they can live with anything else BUT fascism. If they help our economy, it won't be because they want to. It'll be because they think it's time for more of their deceptions and lies.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Friday November 9, 2012, 1:40 pm
Gerrymandering, approved by the CONservative Court, has managed to undermine the Will of the People by preventing a complete removal of RepubliCONs in the House...but we can change that very soon! If RepubliCONs don't wake the "f" up and work FOR People instead of the Corps., we may have to send Samuel L. Jackson in to "talk" with the House "leadership"!;)
 

Angelika R. (146)
Friday November 9, 2012, 2:38 pm
I think many do not understand that the deficit is proportional to the economy as a whole. When the Bush tax cut expires that's ease already and when at the same time the economy can grow a little faster by NOT raising taxes on the middle class, that deficit shrinks again. Obama promised he would not sacrifice the middle class to the rich, so I trust he will do it smart and right and fearless of a "cliff".
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Friday November 9, 2012, 2:59 pm
I'm reading that both parties don't want Pentagon cuts. There are a few Dem. members of Congress, like Bernie Sanders, who are standing their ground in favor of them, but I'm already telling my Congress critters to let them stand. Even the Pentagon doesn't want them. From what I'm understanding about the Sequestration bill, it should just stand as it is...there should be no Grand Bargain, because the GOP never "bargains."
 

Gloria picchetti (287)
Friday November 9, 2012, 3:14 pm
If the GOP wants to exist they better raise some taxes & leave SS alone. I do agree that $250,000 isn't enough to raise taxes on. That fiqure can be raised but the truly wealthy have to pay more. They have not created any jobs with the tax breaks they already have.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Friday November 9, 2012, 9:36 pm
I think the American voters have made their preferences clear. With demographics changing so that "angry old white men" are no longer the voting majority, the Republican party is going to have change its perspective, give up its allegiance to Grover Norquist, and comply with what the majority wants --or face the risk of not being re-elected.
 
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