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Israel Prepares for Deeper Confrontation

World  (tags: world, politics, middle-east, israel, palestine, news, violence, conflict, 'HUMANRIGHTS!' )

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Four days into Israel's fierce assault on Hamas in Gaza, the ongoing operation looks on the surface a remake of the Gaza War of 2008-9 - with one unanswered distinction: whether it is aimed at completing what the previous onslaught didn't achieve - the r

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mag.w.d. Aichberger (34)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 4:12 am
"""israel is a nuclear state
israel is a racist-apartheid state
israel is a terrorist state
israel is a pirate state
israel is an illegal state
israel is not the US' ally, it's the BOSS
israel is not a democracy it's a racial colony
the UN itself said zionism is racism
Arabs are semites, nothing is more antisemitic than Zionism """
--- smarteffort1@youtube 8 hours ago

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 4:37 am

pam w (139)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 8:34 am
Israel has every right to defend itself.

What do you think would happen if people in Tijuana, Mex. were lobbing bombs & rockets into San Diego?

We'd respond....and so are the Israelis.

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 11:41 am
Maybe im wrong & being silly.

What sence was there, after world war two: to set up an Jewish state surrounded by arabian states??

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 12:08 pm
My Deepest Apologies to All, referring to my own former comment.

Forgive me please -if I have hurted any human being.

Aaron Holmgren (3)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 12:59 am
"We'd respond....and so are the Israelis." You seem readily able to associate yourself with Israelis, now try to put yourself in Palestinian shoes - you are being bombed by Israelis, do you respond with rockets?

Israelis and Hamas had a ceasefire agreement that was being honoured. The Israelis broke it by assassinating the Palestinian minister of defense.

Aaron Holmgren (3)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 2:32 pm
@John Gregoire, I'm not sure I believe that. Considering the escalation of rockets into Israel since the assassination of the defense minister; this is pretty clear evidence of a retaliation by Hamas. If Hamas was intent on starting a war with Israel, they would not have started it with a trickle. If it is true that any rockets fell into Israel prior to the assassination attempt, then it sounds like a lucky excuse for Israel to start a war. Assassinating government officials is not ever honourable, even during full scale war.

Aaron Holmgren (3)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 2:38 pm
@John Gregoire, who do you think suffers the most by a war between US-backed Israel, and the virtually defenseless Palestinians? Coincidence that this all transpired immediately after the the Palestinian Authority announced it will ask the United Nations General Assembly to recognize Palestine as a non-member state?

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday November 19, 2012, 9:52 am
Aaron, as usual in any war, Jewish and Arab population of Palestine suffers. You better ask who gains in anything in that war!

Hamas authority is dwindling - they cannot feed the people and it looks like they can't even manage other terrorrist groups. Looks like tried to assert their authority. Another option is that they act on Iran's behalf, drawing attention away from Iranian nukes.

Killing murderers with blood on their hands is an honourable act. That's they killers are executed in many countries. And bombing someone's territory is a good cause for a war. Don't assume that Palestinian Arabs are so stupid that not to realize that bombing of Israel will result in bombs coming back at some time.

Those, who wanted to start the war with Israel got what they wanted. Virgins in the Islamist Paradise are going to be very busy.

Lois Jordan (63)
Monday November 19, 2012, 3:05 pm
The Palestinians just want their own state...I don't know why that's too much to ask. Seems to me that Israel's being the bully. The citizens of these 2 countries want peace. In this latest attack, I read that members of the Israeli military are opting out of fighting....just not showing up---that should send a big message to warmongering leaders.

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday November 19, 2012, 8:48 pm
Lois, if Palestinian Arabs wanted their state - they could have it long time ago.

There are no Jews in Gaza, Israel gifted Gazans with their top-notch equipment when Israelis left Gaza to give peace a chance. Now, with Hamas grabbing power and bombing them with rockets all over, they are quite pissed at Hamas, and at all hopes for peace-making.

Can't blame Israelis for that. Can blame Gazans for voting for the modern day Nazis.

mag.w.d. Aichberger (34)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 6:13 am
> Israel has every right to defend itself.

I, for one, getting really, REALLY, SICK of that line that "Israel is defending itself", or even worse: "..defending itself like any other country would," both being an extreme atempt at distorting reality, and the latter being an extreme insult to "any other country"

Yes, Israel has the right to defend itself. Just as Nazi Germany DID have the right to "defend itself". And both statements are totally irrelevant to and only distracting from the real issue.

" When Israelis in the occupied territories now claim that they have to defend themselves, they are defending themselves in the sense that any military occupier has to defend itself against the population they are crushing... You can't defend yourself when you're militarily occupying someone else's land. That's not defense. Call it what you like, it's not defense. " -- Noam Chomsky
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