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Israel Says It Will Build Settlements in East Jerusalem Neighborhoods


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Cal
- 485 days ago - cnn.com
A day after the U.S. State Department strongly condemned Israel's plans to build a 1,500-unit settlement in East Jerusalem, Israel announced it would continue a plan to build settlements in other East Jerusalem neighborhoods



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Teresa W. (626)
Friday December 21, 2012, 1:13 am
What?!
 

Arild Warud (151)
Friday December 21, 2012, 3:17 am
Just shows that Israel doesn't care about anybody but themselves.
 

John S. (294)
Friday December 21, 2012, 5:07 am
Noted.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Friday December 21, 2012, 6:25 am
Jerusalem is Israel's capital. Of course they want to build apartment building there. These buildings are for both Arab and Jewish Israelis alike.

Cal, why does CNN call Israeli villages "settlements" but Arab Israeli villages - "villages"?
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Friday December 21, 2012, 6:29 am
"Mayor Nir Barkat strongly condemns any attempt to undermine or derail the development plans, which will benefit the Jewish and Arab residents of Jerusalem alike. Not planning and developing Jerusalem neighborhoods ultimately harms all residents and landowners -- Arabs and Jews alike."

I won't buy Arab propaganda coming from CNN. This construction is a good news for both Israli Arabs and Jews. As for Arabs living in PA and Gaza, they could ask Jordan and Egypt to share at least some of the lands with them. After all, Arab states have 10,000 times more land than Israel.
 

mag.w.d. Aichberger (34)
Friday December 21, 2012, 6:42 am
> Jerusalem is Israel's capital.
According only e.g. to UN, international consensus, WCJ, and confirmed by Israel's own judiciarary and even many naZionist politicians, the West Bank, Gaza Strip AND EAST JERUSALEM are occupied Palestinian territory; any building activity there is a clear violation of (e.g.) the Genebva convention.

But compulsive criminals, like eg the NAZI or the naZionists, and they lackeys, never care for lawfulness or justice, or human rights.
 

lee e. (114)
Friday December 21, 2012, 8:33 am
Down with Israell ! This is it -- it'll be a long time before I'll be sorry for any attempt to overthrow that country = I didn't think I would be more supporttive of her neighbors -- but just like people countries can change!
 

Donnaa D. (9)
Friday December 21, 2012, 8:53 am
VERY DEPRESSING NO WONDER Israel is hated by so many countries, they steal and plunder others land, and no care for the suffering of neighbouring countries that they steal from, Irael you ARE A DISGRACE
 

Ge M. (216)
Friday December 21, 2012, 10:30 am
Frack, there is no occupied land in Israel but disputed territory. Remember that the Palestinians have no legal right to any Israeli land as they rejected it back in 1948. This was confirmed in a court of international law. They were also given Transjordan (now Jordan) so why do they need any other land?

From a UK journalist, Melanie Phillips

The double standard was breathtaking. The UN vote to give the Palestinians non-member, observer status has smashed the Middle East peace process to bits.

In bringing this to the General Assembly, Mahmoud Abbas was in unilateral breach of his obligation under the Oslo Accords to proceed by way of bilateral negotiations with Israel.

In response, Israel made a very sharp point of its own by announcing it would now build 3,000 homes in East Jerusalem and the West Bank. It also said it would approve planning and zoning for a more sensitive area called E1 between Jerusalem and the settlement bloc of Ma'ale Adumim.

Israel was thus showing its fury not just with the Palestinians but also with the world. For the UN move not only legitimised an entity that has no legitimacy, thus substituting politics for law, but also punished the permanent victim of its murderous aggression.

The proper response to Palestinian aggression, racism and contempt for international agreements is to cut their funding.

Yet the UK, which merely abstained after Abbas refused to meet its conditions for supporting him, responded with outrage - not at the Palestinians but at Israel.

Like other EU countries summoning the Israeli ambassador for a dressing-down, it claimed that the construction "threatened the viability of the two-state solution" and threatened unspecified punishments.

But it is the PA and the UN who have torn up the peace process. There is no longer any agreement to bind Israel to anything.

Nor is Israel changing much on the ground, since the proposed new building is in existing Jewish areas. It is generally assumed that these would become part of Israel under any final agreement. As for E1, Israel has said no decision has been taken to build there.

So why did the UK respond in this obnoxiously perverse way? One explanation that some will favour is its irredeemable hatred of Israel and the Jews.

Let's park that one for now. Rather more relevant to the row is that Britain obsessively pursues a fundamental category error.

It believes that the peace process is the only way to achieve the only solution to the Middle East impasse, which is a Palestinian state. In the light of all that has happened, such a belief is totally delusional.

Israel has always accepted a two-state solution. The Palestinians have gone to extreme lengths to demonstrate they will never do so. Instead, they blow up Israeli civilians and indoctrinate Palestinian children to hate and murder Jews. They refused to negotiate with Israel even during a 10-month moratorium on new settlement building.

This is because what they want is not a state of Palestine but the destruction of Israel. They abrogate their agreements and thus destroy the prospect of a negotiated solution - because they do not want one.

Yet here's the really delusional thing about the UK's peace-process obsession. It is precisely because the Palestinians refuse to co-operate with this supposedly vital process that the UK is ever more desperate to get them on board.

So instead of punishing them for not co-operating, it turns a blind eye to every outrage they commit - while blaming Israel, whose own willingness to negotiate they take for granted, for "provoking" them.

So the UK gives a free pass to racist aggression while punishing its victim. Which is what it and the rest of the so-called "civilised" world have been doing in the Middle East ever since the 1920s.

And that, not settlement building, is the real reason why this conflict is the most intractable in the world.



 

Barbara D. (107)
Friday December 21, 2012, 10:36 am
No one in the Arab world cares about the Palestinians; their only goal is the destruction of Israel.
Am Yisrael chai!
 

Ge M. (216)
Friday December 21, 2012, 10:46 am
Wolf, aka Frack, your solution appears to be genocide ie the death of all Jews. Wow, what a solution. And yet you claim you have interests in humanitarianism.

In its most general form, humanitarianism is an ethic of kindness, benevolence and sympathy extended universally and impartially to all human beings. Humanitarianism has been an evolving concept historically but universality is a common element in its evolution. No distinction is to be made in the face of suffering or abuse on grounds of gender, sexual orientation, tribe, caste, age, religion, or nationality.

Humanitarianism can also be described as the acceptance of every human being for plainly just being another human, ignoring and abolishing biased social views, prejudice, and racism in the process, if utilized individually as a practiced viewpoint, or mindset.

So, how can you claim to be interested in humanitarianism when you call for the destruction of any one people. In fact, your hypocrisy shows because you are happy to use Jewish medical, scientific and general research in your day to day life yet blame them for existing. Perhaps you should switch to Muslim discoveries instead. Enjoy living in a hovel without any luxuries discovered, at least, in the last 2 thousand years but you will be supporting your stated beliefs.
 

Carol D. (98)
Friday December 21, 2012, 10:47 am
funny how things and opinions change America threw out and killed the red indians took over and built on all the land Britain threw out and killed the aborigines in Australia took over and built on all the land Most of Europe did this at some time over the last couple of centuries in most continents Most of the lands were won by wars and violence but none were given back Why so different now if you win land by war
 

Ge M. (216)
Friday December 21, 2012, 11:08 am
Carol, what about Tibet which is being destroyed by China? Cyprus? N Mali? South Sudan? Indonesia? And now Thailand? Egypt? Nigeria? Eritrea? I could continue.

Apart from Tibet, Muslims are attacking non-Muslims and killing them, raping and abusing them, why are you not mentioning them?
 

Carol D. (98)
Friday December 21, 2012, 11:32 am
Precisely so why all the uproar about one country No one cares about the other places on earth that get taken over and no one does anything
 

Suheyla C. (227)
Friday December 21, 2012, 12:04 pm
Thanks Cal for sahring.
 

Ge M. (216)
Friday December 21, 2012, 12:32 pm
Carol, are you saying that you don't care about the other places? Or is it because it is about Palestinians?

As for the one country, it is continually being abused by the rest of the world and accused of all sorts of crimes. Yet the crimes committed by Muslims world wide are ignored and that is a crime in itself.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Friday December 21, 2012, 12:47 pm
Send a Green Star to Carol D.

Sending a Green Star is a simple way to say "Thank you"
You cannot currently send a star to Carol because you have done so within the last week.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Friday December 21, 2012, 12:53 pm
Gillian, what Carol is saying, that when a country-aggressor attacks another country and loses the war, the victim of aggression can keep the land of the aggressor. This is how things work for the last hundreds of years.

And Arab states should be no exceptions: they started wars, they lost lands, they have to pay for the aggression. Too many free rides were given to them already:
* one ethnic group has 22 votes in UN.
* Arab states got lands of the whole Middle East, yet give nothing to their minorities trying to get their own countries: Kurds, Druze, Bahai are abused and discriminated against.
* Palestinian Aran refugees are World Best Paid Refugees;
* Arab League presses Israel for land concessions, though these Arab states got 10,000 times more land than Israel to resettle Arab refugees;
* Despite all oil $$$ ,Arab states refuse to pay for Arab refugees! They would rather have princes making platinum cars, than pay to people to live in human conditions.

 

Ge M. (216)
Friday December 21, 2012, 1:02 pm
Thanks Bob for clarifying. The one thing that I haven't been able to understand is why the Palestinians don't live in the country that they were allocated, Transjordan. Any thoughts?
 

Alllan Yorkowitz (462)
Friday December 21, 2012, 1:14 pm
I love the fact the accompanying picture shows Palestinians building these homes, In other words, Israel brought employment, and future housing to Palestinians - something they could have never achieved on their own.
 

Bill Eagle (31)
Friday December 21, 2012, 2:37 pm
A dumb move on the part of Israel. New settlements are considred a provication, and this action will not bring peace to the Middle East.
 

Stan B. (124)
Friday December 21, 2012, 3:14 pm
I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Jerusalem was established as the capital of Israel by King David over 3000 years ago. They have every right to build there.
 

James Maynard (62)
Friday December 21, 2012, 9:00 pm
Just more stupidity.....
I can't fix stupid.
 

Ira Herson (13)
Friday December 21, 2012, 9:27 pm
The building of addtional homes in east Jerusalem will provide jobs and homes for thousands. It is not any violation of anything. If it comes about that that part of Jerusalem is to go to the West Bank then any people who live there will be relocated just like they were when Israel ceded control of Gaza. 20,000 Israelis left their homes n Gaza and moved into Israel. When Israel gave up the Sinai back to Egypt for the peace treaty they had rebuild Sharlm el Shek. This had been built into a tourest location and has been a boon to Egypt.

It is no threat to the 2 state solution. Iran and the MB are a threat to the 2 state solution.
 

Jaime A. (32)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 6:21 am
Noted!!
Long live Israel.!!
 

TERRANCE N. (65)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 9:51 am
Hell, I guess everything is disputed territory as long as you are a racist warmonger and recieve $3 billion in military aid from the US which itself spends $1 trillion annually for "defense".And you wonder why the world hates Israel.
Time to take this outlaw Israel to the ICC (International criminal court). It's long past due.
 

Daphne Waisel (0)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 10:34 am
Arid - Who do you care about???
 

Angelika R. (143)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 1:05 pm
It is widely believed that Netanyahu gave E-1 the green light in order to gain the support of far-right parties before Israeli elections in January.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 6:36 pm
Terrance,, "you wonder why the world hates Israel. " The World? No, Terrance, the ARAB World hates Israel.

I don't hate Israel, because I have to reason to. Israelis quietly accepted millions of refugees of their own. In comparison, Arab states have 10 thousand times more land than Israel, and yet refuse to settle their brothers in need.

Arab states are charging $4 per gallon of gas, Arab princes build for themselves PLATINUM cars, yet damand from the Western world to feed the "World Best Paid Arab refugees" forever!

Arab League is a bunch of world best qualified freeloaders. If I have anything for being treated as a Sucker by that bunch, I hold it against the Arab League and its Islamist Lobby.

 

Alexander Werner (53)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 6:42 pm
Free Margaret, you again misquote the law and can't get it.

Palestinian Arabs never had a country of their own to call any lands "occupied". These lands, taken from Jordan in the defensive war, are now Israeli lands. Please do not post Islamist PR garbage from Electronic Intifada that Arab wars against Israel were started by Israel.

Even though we continue to pay for Arab refguees and to various aid to Islamic countries in the amount of 30 BILLION BUCKS a year, we are not that stupid to believe to Islamist obvious lies.

Israel is building several apartment buildings on 4 square mile area in their capital. For both Israeli Arabs and Jews.

The only reason this construction is in world news is the power of Islamist lobby.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 11:16 am
Free Margaret,

Please be specific when talking about "Palestinian" land. Palestine is just another name for the Land of Israel, invented by Romans and the one that became a traditional name for the region.

Arabs living in Palestine not only have no more rights to that land than Jews, they have much less rights. At least, Jews had and have their country there, while Arab countries are located in other places.

Angelika, the statement that ""The Jewish People has a natural, historical and legal right to his homeland
and to its eternal capital, Jerusalem; the State of Israel, as the state of the Jewish People, has a right and claim to areas, the status of which is under dispute, in the Land of Israel."" made in UN is not a quiet statement.

This statement is correct and true. You need to understand, that Arabs already got 10,000 times more land that Israel. Arab states refuse to give anything to their own minorities, they kill freedom fighters from the nations fighting for their independancy: Druze, Kurds and others. After killing their minorities by thousands and giving them nothing, these very same Arab states come to UN, twist hands of poor nations by oil and demand the choire to condemn Israel instead.

I don't buy this old UN garbage anymore.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 11:23 am
Margaret and Angelika, if Arabs are allowed to build in the disputed areas, do should Jews be allowed. I will not support the TRUE RACIST law, permitting PA and Hamas build settlements for the Arabs, yet forbidding Israel to do the same for Israeli Arabs and Jews.

Margaret, you can repeat the usual mantra of Islamist PR workers about "Imperialism", "Colonialism", "Occupation", etc - but that is useless.

You know that:
* Arab states are the true Colonial leftpovers, given to them by Brits based on the personal loyalty if individual Sheiks.
* That Arab states occupy lands that their monorities want for their own states;
* That what is going on in all without exception Arab states is a disgrace to the population of those states.

And yet you try to stir passions about Israel, which does nothing of the above.

You care about construction of 50 apartment building in 4 square mile in Jerusalem more, than you care about 40,000 Syrian Arabs killed recently by their ruler.

Any decency left?
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 11:30 am
"The State of Israel Water Authority charges the Palestinians more than they do charge the settlers." ? Could be. Israelis have to spend fortunes on security guards, protecting them from Palestinian Arab terrorists. That surely adds to the costs.

Every Jewish wedding in Israel must have security guards. None of the Arab weddings in Israel does. Case with water, if you didn't mix up everything as you often do, means that this time Palestinian Arab population have to pay for actions of the Palestinian Arab terrorists.

Never heard you protesting Palestinian Arab terrorism here.
 

Angelika R. (143)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 2:26 pm
Apart from Free being absolutely correct here, - has Israel not always claimed that it needs the settlements for SECURITY reasons? What a lie, now they're talking about "job creation" and economical reasons.

And in their cabinet meeting on 2 Dec. 2012, as a response to the UN GA resolution of 29 November 2012, in rejecting that resolution they quietly declared the entire Westbank as "land of Israel".
("The Jewish People has a natural, historical and legal right to his homeland
and to its eternal capital, Jerusalem; the State of Israel, as the state of
the Jewish People, has a right and claim to areas, the status of which is
under dispute, in the Land of Israel.")

Does anyone need any more proof that Israel is NOT INTERESTED in a peaceful solution?
 

Angelika R. (143)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 7:01 pm
Thanks for posting her article here, Free, I already read it a while ago, but I am sure it will NOT convince nor impress Bob... To him, only HIS opinion counts, even if it stands against the world majority and all international authorities.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday December 24, 2012, 4:41 pm
Free Margaret, why do you pretend that you didn't understand my statements? Which Facts do you need to prove any of my points, that you omitted:

* Arab states are the true Colonial leftpovers, given to them by Brits based on the personal loyalty if individual Sheiks.
* That Arab states occupy lands that their monorities want for their own states;
* That what is going on in all without exception Arab states is a disgrace to the population of those states.

Or, that this whole nonsense is about 4 square mile plot, that even Biden said will stay with Israel anyway?

What is the point of Islamist PR worker quoting exactly the same Islamist PR worker, except for increasing Google index? Of course you will pick someone " Israeli ", "Jewish" or "Israeli Jewish" historian, or musician, or linguist, or a pimp - as long, as he/she can produce something anti-Israel the staff will go.

Sign anything anti-Israel and be proud "Liberal Intellectual"? Free Margaret, that cheap campaigning resembles the promises given to stupid suicide bombers: just press the button and be laid with 72 virgins for Free and forever.

Free, Arab states have to learn share their wealth with Arab people. Until they do that, Arab people will remain being miserable. Arab states could resettle Arab refugees from Israel hundreds of times, if not for their hate against Israel.

They could pay for them, if not for greed.

But see, Margaret, people eventually getting very upset with the way things are going. As soon, as many countries demand accountability from Arab states, and UN states start buying Israeli gas, Arab nation may be even in bigger trouble that it is now, with all those Al-Queda/Muslim Brotherhood terrorists taking all over the place.

You should try to help your people in a meaningful way.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday December 24, 2012, 9:18 pm
Free Margaret, "racist" claims are often initiated by the true and worst racists. I consider racists those, who managed to give Arabs disproportional portion of world money, allocated to the refugees. I consider racist, that Arab refugees are not only World Best Paid, but the title of "refugee" is given to them by the fact of birth, not by real tragedies, like to all other ethnic groups.

I call racist a structure, when Arabs who were born and grew up in Gaza, Jordan, any other Arab country or even West, are still counted as refugees, while no other group does. What percentage of Jordanian population is on UNWRA payroll, Margaret? Why do Arabs deserve this huge benefits while not other ethnic group does? Isn't it REAL racist, Margaret?

Please do not tell me about racism, with your open support for Islamist and Arab supremacy you are not in a position to say a word about it.

Only completely indoctrinated person will try to NOT to see one Arab collective. Starting from Arab nationalist movement for One Arab Nation coordinating attacks against Israel, to Arab League managing world oil, to one Arabic language common for all Arab people, to wishes of United Arab States expressed here by an honest Egyptian poster.

Why deny the obvious, Margaret? Just Google for Arab Boycott of Israel and watch the united friendly Arab collective coming out.
 

Stan B. (124)
Monday December 24, 2012, 10:38 pm
You cannot currently send a star to Bob because you have done so within the last week.
Why waste your precious time, Bob?
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday December 24, 2012, 11:03 pm
Stan, you are right about wasting time, but I just think about that well-oiled machine running them and want to stand up to it.

Besides, annoyance caused by Islamist PR machine bothers me even more when left unattended: thousands of PR web sites, all under the same campaign orders, same petitions, same references, same pretends to be "Jewish", same authors to quote, same cheering up Islamists as "Freedom Fighters", even when next these "Freedom Fighters" rape and kill the very same ambassador running for an extra mile to help them.

Sick and tired of their lies.

 

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 8:11 am
Margaret, I provided you with so many links in the past, that it gets annoying.

I volunteered to work with Alzheimer patients, and they seem to have a better memory than you do.

Do you want me to send you a link to Arab League website? To Nasser speeches? To Hamas chapter? To terror acts committed by Palestinian Arabs against Israelis? To terror acts committed by non-Palestinian Arabs against Jews, Christians or Moderate Muslims?

Tell me, dear, what you want to see and I will gladly provide you with that.

Margaret, I think we are going over Jews or Israelis working for Islamist PR machine in 1001 time by now. You seem to be used to picking up same buddies all over again. You don't pick ANY Israeli or a Jew. You pick the one voicing what you want to hear. You hope that they are more convincing that an Arab man or woman? It all depends on what they are saying, Margaret.

We are not living in clan society, where every Israeli Jew or any other person gets 100% trust. Reasonable people check words of other for common sense.

"where I have EVER directed any criticism to the Jewish people"??? Margaret, Jewish and Arab people together will live in those apartment buildings on a 4 sq mile area, you are protesting so loudly. You are upset not because Arab people will live there. You are upset because some Jewish people will live there as well.

This is what is racist in your comments.

"your claim of whether someone is Jewish or not is really not any of your business."??? Not exactly, Margaret. Too many Islamist PR workers tend to hide behind Jewish or Christian avatars, gaining more credibility, especially from those who doesn't have time to watch the process in entirety and see the common patterns. Patterns, obvious to exist between the same posters, the same campaigns, same youtube videos, and the lake of websites.

See, Margaret, as soon, as our government stopped foreign funding of NGOs, Soros hands became shorter, and we hear much less of foreign noise here. Wasn't that clever? Islamists love PR on someone else's cash, like divert union money, charge unsuspecting students fees with fake charitable ideas, etc.

Tell me which links you want to see, my dear, and I will provide them to you happily. Just promise to read them if I do.



 

Alexandra R. (329)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 11:56 am
If only I could send more stars to Bob and Stan..

 

Alexandra R. (329)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 11:59 am
Thanks for sharing that Melanie Phillips article Gillian!
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 2:21 pm
Thank you Alexandra.

Margaret, darling, I beg you to show where I lied.

Isn't that nice that we don't hear the usual pro-Islamist PR from bodies that were supposed to help poor people, but served as Islamist apologists instead?

And you know, Margaret, I won't shut up. I am speaking here not because this is my job to speak to be paid by Soros, like people who will quit when aren't paid. I am telling my opinion, and warning others about threats coming from bad and dangerous people. Mind you, I was telling about the disaster facing Egypt and Libya when newspapers were still mumbling about Arab Spring as having something to do with democracy.

 

Kate B. (37)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 6:54 pm
and of course there is no occupation sayeth the israeli court jesters, voila! no occupation, then we're freee to build, then on to Eretz Izrael
- from the river to the sea, from the Nile to the Euphrates, why that's a land mass 4 times the size of Texas and holds over a billion Muslims, but the zionists want what they want & that is world domination with gentiles as 2nd class citizens in the racist zionist daydream, where if you're not born into the tribe your a Palestinian too.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday December 26, 2012, 9:41 am
OK, Margaret, here is a link for you, about racist nature of Hamas:

http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/dershowitz/entry/will_hamas_s_new_culture

Double Standard Watch: Will Hamas's new "Culture War" acknowledge its historic ties to Nazism?

Hamas, the terrorist organization that specializes in targeting civilians, has now decided, according to a New York Times headline, to shift "from rockets to culture war" in an effort to garner public support for its cause. Part of its ongoing public relations campaign is to portray the Israelis as the "new Nazis" and the Palestinians as the "new Jews." To bring about this transformation, it must engage in a form of Holocaust denial that erases the historical record of widespread Palestinian complicity with the "old Nazis" in perpetrating the real Holocaust. It has become an important part of the mantra of Hamas supporters that neither the Palestinians people nor its leadership played any role in the Holocaust. Listen to Mohammad Ahmadinejad talking to students at Columbia University:
"If [the Holocaust] is a reality, we need to still question whether the Palestinian people should be paying for it or not. After all, it happened in Europe. The Palestinian people had no role to play in it. So why is it that the Palestinian people are paying the price of an event they had nothing to do with? ...The Palestinian people didnít commit any crime. They had no role to play in World War II. They were living with the Jewish communities and the Christian communities in peace at the time."
The conclusion that is supposed to follow from this "fact" is that the establishment of Israel in the wake of the Nazi genocide of the Jewish people was unfair to the Palestinians. Central to this claim is that neither the Palestinian people nor their leadership bore any responsibility for the Holocaust, and if any reparations are owed the Jewish people, it is from Germany and not from the Palestinians. The propounders of this historical argument suggest that the West created the Jewish state out of guilt over the Holocaust. It might have been understandable if a portion of Germany (or Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, France, Austria, or other collaborator nations) had been allocated for a Jewish homeland - but why Palestine? Palestine, according to this claim, was as much a "victim" as were the Jews.
I hear this argument on university campuses around the United States, and even more so in Europe.
The truth is that the Palestinian leadership, supported by the Palestinian masses, played a significant role in Hitler's Holocaust.
The official leader of the Palestinians, Haj Amin al-Husseini, spent the war years in Berlin with Hitler, serving as a consultant on the Jewish question. He was taken on a tour of Auschwitz and expressed support for the mass murder of European Jews. He also sought to "solve the problems of the Jewish element in Palestine and other Arab countries" by employing "the same method" being used "in the Axis countries." He would not be satisfied with the Jewish residents of Palestine - many of whom were descendants of Sephardic Jews who had lived there for hundreds, even thousands, of years - remaining as a minority in a Muslim state. Like Hitler, he wanted to be rid of "every last Jew." As Husseini wrote in his memoirs, "Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world.
"I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: 'The Jews are yours.'"
The mufti was apparently planning to return to Palestine in the event of a German victory and construct a death camp, modeled after Auschwitz, near Nablus. Husseini incited his pro-Nazi followers with the words "Arise, o sons of Arabia. Fight for your sacred rights. Slaughter Jews wherever you find them. Their spilled blood pleases Allah, our history and religion. That will save our honor."
Not only did Husseini exhort his followers to murder the Jews; he also took an active role in trying to bring about that result. For example, in 1944, a German-Arab commando unit, under Husseini's command, parachuted into Palestine with the intention of poisoning Tel Aviv's wells.
Husseini also helped to inspire a pro-Nazi coup in Iraq and helped to organize thousands of Muslims in the Balkans into military units known as Handselar divisions, which carried out atrocities against Yugoslav Jews, Serbs and Gypsies. After a meeting with Hitler, he recorded the following in his diary:
The Mufti: "The Arabs were Germany's natural friends... They were therefore prepared to cooperate with Germany with all their hearts and stood ready to participate in a war, not only negatively by the commission of acts of sabotage and the instigation of revolutions, but also positively by the formation of an Arab Legion. In this struggle, the Arabs were striving for the independence and the unity of Palestine, Syria and Iraq..."
Hitler: "Germany was resolved, step by step, to ask one European nation after the other to solve its Jewish problem, and at the proper time direct a similar appeal to non-European nations as well. Germany's objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power.
"The moment that Germany's tank divisions and air squadrons had made their appearance south of the Caucasus, the public appeal requested by the Grand Mufti could go out to the Arab world."
Hitler assured Husseini about how he would be regarded following a Nazi victory and "the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere." In that hour, the mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. It would then be his task to set off the Arab operations that he had secretly prepared.
Husseini's significant contributions to the Holocaust were multi-fold: first, he pleaded with Hitler to exterminate European Jewry and advised the Nazis on how to do so; second, he visited Auschwitz and urged Eichmann and Himmler to accelerate the pace of the mass murder; third, he personally stopped 4,000 children, accompanied by 500 adults, from leaving Europe and had them sent to Auschwitz and gassed; fourth, he prevented another two thousand Jews from leaving Romania for Palestine and one thousand from leaving Hungary for Palestine, who were subsequently sent to death camps; fifth, he organized the killing of 12,600 Bosnian Jews by Muslims, whom he recruited to the Waffen-SS Nazi-Bosnian division.
He was also one of the few non-Germans made privy to the Nazi extermination while it was taking place. It was in his official capacity as the leader of the Palestinian people and their official representative that he made his pact with Hitler, spent the war years in Berlin, and worked actively with Eichmann, Himmler, von Ribbentrop and Hitler himself to "accelerate" the final solution by exterminating the Jews of Europe and laying plans to exterminate the Jews of Palestine.
Not only did the Grand Mufti play a significant role in the murder of European Jewry, he sought to replicate the genocide against the Jews in Israel during the war that produced a so-called Nakba. The war started by the Palestinians against the Jews in 1947, and the war started by the Arab states in 1948 against the new state of Israel, were both genocidal wars. Their goal was not merely the ethnic cleansing of the Jews from the area but their total annihilation. The leaders said so and the actions of their subordinates reflected this genocidal goal. They were aided in their efforts by Nazi soldiers - former SS and Gestapo members - who had been given asylum from war crime prosecution in Egypt and who had been recruited by the grand mufti to complete Hitler's work.
It is also fair to say that Husseini's pro-Nazi sympathies and support were widespread among his Palestinian followers, who regarded him as a hero even after the war and the disclosure of his role in Nazi atrocities. The notorious photograph of Husseini and Hitler, together in Berlin, was proudly displayed in many Palestinian homes, even after Husseini's activities in the Holocaust became widely known and praised among Palestinians.
Husseini is still regarded by many as "the George Washington" of the Palestinian people, and if the Palestinians were to get a state of their own, he would be honored as our founding father is. He was their hero, despite - more likely, because of - his active role in the genocide against the Jewish people, which he openly supported and assisted. According to Husseini's biographer, "Large parts of the Arab world shared [Husseini's] sympathy with Nazi Germany during the Second World War... Haj Amin's popularity among the Palestinian Arabs and within the Arab states actually increased more than ever during his period with the Nazis."
In 1948, the National Palestinian Council elected Husseini as its president, even though he was a wanted war criminal living in exile in Egypt. Indeed, Husseini is still revered today among many Palestinians as a national hero. Yasser Arafat, in an interview conducted in 2002 and reprinted in the Palestinian daily Al-Quds on August 2, 2002, called Husseini "our hero," referring to the Palestinian people. Arafat also boasted of being "one of his troops," even though he knew Husseini was "considered an ally of Nazis." Today many Palestinians in east Jerusalem want to turn his home into a shrine. (Ironically, it is this home that was bought by a Jew to build the controversial Jewish housing development in east Jerusalem.)
It is a myth, therefore - another myth perpetrated by Iran's mythmaker-in-chief as well as by Hamas and by many on the hard left who seek to demonize Israel - that the Palestinians played "no role" in the Holocaust. Considering the active support by the Palestinian leadership and masses for the losing side of a genocidal war, it was more than fair for the United Nations to offer them a state of their own on more than half of the arable land of the British mandate.
The Palestinians rejected that offer and several since because they wanted there not to be a Jewish state more than they wanted their own state. That was Husseini's position. Hamas still takes that position. Perhaps their new "culture war" will finally cause them to reconsider - and to accept the two-state solution.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Wednesday December 26, 2012, 9:45 am
http://www.mrdowling.com/608-nasser.html

Most of the people who live in the Middle East and North Africa are Arabs, but Arabs have only recently controlled the region. Ottoman Turks controlled most of the territory until World War I. The British and French replaced them in power. Many Arabs have dreamed of combining their individual countries into one pan-Arabic nation.
 
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