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CHARTS: Gun Buybacks Probably Won't Prevent the Next Newtown


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Diane O. (149)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 2:48 am
The only way to stop another Newtown is to put armed guards at all of our schools to protect our children. Gun buybacks mirrors "Cash for Clunkers." It's a band aid approach, impulsive, short sighted and it will die on the vine.

As we can see, we need real leadership in Washington.
 

Ingo Schreiner (6)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 4:13 am
a real solution?
 

John S. (297)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 5:44 am
Noted.
 

lee e. (114)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 7:50 am
oh no!!!!!! Another Diane O h ho ho ho NO!!!! Go put that pistol where you can derive the most joy Diane - and shoot!!!! who knows it may protect all of us !
As for the "sane" among us --- everywhere that there are extreme gun regulations has a lesser amount ot gun shootings ergo - fewer deaths and maiming -- The NRA is a domestic terrorist organization that should be dismantled and prohibited in this country - which of course will never happen - first because it is financially antithetical to our dgod-giveen terrorist rights as promoters of guns bullets and mayhem throughout the world!!! Second - because it is so wealthy it promotes propaganda that the "sheeple" will believe, and third - it pays its pols more than we could ever donate!!!! So as I say - keep Amerika happy with a few slaughters a year to keep the talk going to advance the character of our great nation and to keep the tourists away ( god only knows we hater ferenors) - we have a reputation to uphold!!!
 

lee e. (114)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 7:52 am
I digressed off the topic -- yes any little bit helps - cash for these arms - is not going to change our nature, but every little bit helps!!
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 9:43 am
Lee, you need to put your wine glass down once in awhile...LOL!
 

lee e. (114)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 10:20 am
No diane o -- it isn't drink thaat drives me crazy and gives me the epileptic fingers -- it's the anger that these obscene articles provokes - I'm so disheartened with a country like ours - that once had so much "promise" - I'm glad I'm old - but my grand daughter will have to live through the global warming, and the ignoramuses who promote mass slayings - while claiming it's their "right" to bear arms!!!! We are a country intent on self distruction and it's disillusioning to see remarks as clearly idiotic as Bachmann's coming onto a Care2 page!!
 

James Maynard (66)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 12:41 pm
Sad statistics.
 

Winn Adams (190)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 12:44 pm
Why aren't we thinking of better mental health coverage for everyone in this country? Arming the entire nation is not the answer.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 2:03 pm
Diane O - I absolutely agree that this is a "Band Aid " approach.
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 2:44 pm
Today is the 2nd anniversary of the tragic murders of 6 people, (including a 6 yr. old), and severe injury of 13 people, including Cong. Gabby Giffords here in Tucson. A local gun "buyback" program is in the works today. It's quite successful. Tonight there will be a huge town hall meeting. The "buyback" is a good start and promotes the spirit of peace. It encourages all to rethink the gun issue....which will not "die on the vine." People are angry and motivated to contact their Congress critters to pass meaningful legislation and fund it properly...the Assault Weapons Ban will come up first. The NRA will be shrunk down to the size where it can be drowned in a bathtub by the time we're done.
 

Diane O. (149)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 2:47 pm
Bottom line, folks, there's no way in hell that we can prevent mentally ill people from following through with their deranged "fantasies." We can't stop it. But, what we can do is put an armed guard at every school, keep the doors locked and bolted and insist and implement an entry into the building which means they'll need to hire someone in security to "man" the front door. It has to be this way now. This isn't about taking handguns away from decent and responsible Americans. This is all about protecting our precious children and grandchildren from this ever happening again.

Lee, I was "teasing" you about the wine glass, but, like you, I want the American dream for my grandchildren and I have four of them. Their safety while at school and elsewhere is important to me. We must be armed to protect our children and if that means an armed guard at the front door then that's the way it has to be.
 

Cary Vizzutti (8)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 2:54 pm
Sandy Hook busted wide open
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wc8HGPfF8ow
 

Cary Vizzutti (8)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 2:55 pm
The collection plate came out Dec 11th and the actual shootings took place Dec 14th
 

Cary Vizzutti (8)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 2:58 pm
Watch "Alex Jones Interviewed By Piers Morgan (Jan.7, 2013)" on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YW8gaSlnAg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

CNN- Com unist News Network
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Tuesday January 8, 2013, 4:30 pm
Noted. Thanks.
 

John Gregoire (257)
Wednesday January 9, 2013, 7:59 am
In a recent buy back two laring problems surface. First the supposed anonomity was breached when the cops didn't destroy the weapons but rather matched them to the FBI crime data base. Secondly, some people scoured pawn shops and bough weapons for 5o bucks or so and then turned them in for the 200 dollar buy back fee!
 

Nancy L. (139)
Wednesday January 9, 2013, 9:49 am
True John. Also, some turn in guns they have, get the $$$ and go out and purchase bigger guns or more ammo. Buy backs are a joke.
 

Nancy L. (139)
Wednesday January 9, 2013, 9:52 am
Very well stated Diane.

Take away the targets on our childrens backs with the no gun zones. What idiot thought up that bright idea? Would you put one of those signs on your front door???
 

Ruth R. (215)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 2:09 pm
If I was about to get shot any where -- by some person who either planned it, or did not -- I sure would be grateful if some other person {wothout getting injured and without getting killed} stopped that gun from from going off. Guns are not the only kind of weapons that I would need to be defended from.
THIS DEBATE NEEDS TO BE ENDED. IT IS DISTRACTION FROM THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE WHY THE MISUSE OF WEAPONS.
THE REAL PEACEFUL DISCUSSION IS ABOUT HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE HAPPY, HEALTHY AND SANE -- SO THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT MIS-USE WEAPONS OF ALL KINDS. THEN THE ACTIONS -- THAT HELP PEOPLE STAY HEALTHY, HAPPY, WHOLE, AND SANE NEED TO BE TAKEN. THE GUN ISSUES IS A NON-ISSUE. PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS AND HAVE ALWAYS MADE WEAPONS OF ALL KINDS.
THIS DEBATE NEEDS TO BE ENDED -- BECAUSE IT IS A DISTRACTION FROM THE REAL ISSUES -- THAT CAUSE PEOPLE TO MIS-USE WEAPONS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEBATE MANY COUNTRIES HAVE NO GUN RIGHTS -- AND LESS DEATHS TO GUNS, 1. THEY ARE AT THE MERCY OF OTHERS WHO GET A HOLD OF GUNS. 2. THEY ARE AT THE MERCY OF OTHERS WHO ARE TAKING OVER THE GOVERNMENT.

WHEN THE GOVERNMENT FEAR-- HAS AWE AND RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE, THEN THE PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM.
WHEN THE PEOPLE FEAR THE GOVERNMENT -- THEN THERE IS TYRANNY.

WHERE ARE THE PETITIONS FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE -- FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF WEAPONS -- AND KEEP THE GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS TO A MINIMUM ???

ARE WE ALL BEING USED LIKE PAWNS IN A GOVERNMENT SYSTEM THAT WOULD LIKE US TO THINK THAT WE DO NOT NEED WEAPONS --- WHEN THAT GOVERNMENT SYSTEM IS TAKING ALL THE POWER FROM THE PEOPLE THAT IT POSSIBLY CAN ???
IF YOU GO AHEAD AND BAN THOSE WEAPONS -- AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER KIND OF WEAPON BY THOSE WHO YOU TOOK IT AWAY FROM.
IF YOU KEEP PETITIONING AND WRITING ABOUT GUN CONTROL, YOU MISS THE TRUE MATTER -- THAT OF ADDRESSING:
1. WHAT IS THE TRUE PURPOSE OF WEAPONS.
2. HOW TO HELP PEOPLE FROM MIS -- USING WEAPONS.
3. THE SELF-CONTROL AND RESPECT AND HONOR OF PEACEFUL SELF-DEFENSE.
WITH OR WITHOUT WEAPONS.
4. SINCE WHEN DID GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION MEAN THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT BE USED AGAINST THE PEOPLE -- TO TAKE AWAY THEIR OWN MEANS OF DEFENSE -- THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A GUN. THERE ARE MANY OTHER KINDS OF WEAPONS.
YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ON BRING UP THE MATTER OF GUN CONTROL. GO TO THE ROOT OF THE CAUSE OF THE MISUSE OF WEAPONS.
YOU SHAME YOURSELVES. BOW DOWN TO THE PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT POSITIONS.
YOU SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT I EVEN COMMENT.
 

Ruth R. (215)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 2:17 pm
ARE WE PAWNS IN A SYSTEM THAT WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO NOT BE ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES -- AGAINST PEOPLE WHO WILL GET THESE WEAPONS -- AND AGAINST -- A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT-- IF IT GOES AGAINST THE CIVILIANS?
Ruth R. (122)
CORRECTION Thursday January 10, 2013, 2:09 pm
If I was about to get shot any where -- by some person who either planned it, or did not -- I sure would be grateful if some other person {wothout getting injured and without getting killed} stopped that gun from from going off. Guns are not the only kind of weapons that I would need to be defended from.
THIS DEBATE NEEDS TO BE ENDED. IT IS DISTRACTION FROM THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE WHY THE MISUSE OF WEAPONS.
THE REAL PEACEFUL DISCUSSION IS ABOUT HOW TO KEEP PEOPLE HAPPY, HEALTHY AND SANE -- SO THAT PEOPLE WILL NOT MIS-USE WEAPONS OF ALL KINDS. THEN THE ACTIONS -- THAT HELP PEOPLE STAY HEALTHY, HAPPY, WHOLE, AND SANE NEED TO BE TAKEN. THE GUN ISSUES IS A NON-ISSUE. PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS AND HAVE ALWAYS MADE WEAPONS OF ALL KINDS.
THIS DEBATE NEEDS TO BE ENDED -- BECAUSE IT IS A DISTRACTION FROM THE REAL ISSUES -- THAT CAUSE PEOPLE TO MIS-USE WEAPONS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DEBATE MANY COUNTRIES HAVE NO GUN RIGHTS -- AND LESS DEATHS TO GUNS, 1. THEY ARE AT THE MERCY OF OTHERS WHO GET A HOLD OF GUNS. 2. THEY ARE AT THE MERCY OF OTHERS WHO ARE TAKING OVER THE GOVERNMENT. 3. THEY ARE AT THE MERCY OF THE CORRUPT PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT.

WHEN THE GOVERNMENT FEAR-- HAS AWE AND RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE, THEN THE PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM.
WHEN THE PEOPLE FEAR THE GOVERNMENT -- THEN THERE IS TYRANNY.

WHERE ARE THE PETITIONS FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE -- FREEDOM OF CHOICE OF WEAPONS -- AND KEEP THE GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS TO A MINIMUM ???

ARE WE ALL BEING USED LIKE PAWNS IN A GOVERNMENT SYSTEM THAT WOULD LIKE US TO THINK THAT WE DO NOT NEED WEAPONS --- WHEN THAT GOVERNMENT SYSTEM IS TAKING ALL THE POWER FROM THE PEOPLE THAT IT POSSIBLY CAN ???
IF YOU GO AHEAD AND BAN THOSE WEAPONS -- AND THERE WILL BE ANOTHER KIND OF WEAPON BY THOSE WHO YOU TOOK IT AWAY FROM.
IF YOU KEEP PETITIONING AND WRITING ABOUT GUN CONTROL, YOU MISS THE TRUE MATTER -- THAT OF ADDRESSING:
1. WHAT IS THE TRUE PURPOSE OF WEAPONS.
2. HOW TO HELP PEOPLE FROM MIS -- USING WEAPONS.
3. THE SELF-CONTROL AND RESPECT AND HONOR OF PEACEFUL SELF-DEFENSE.
WITH OR WITHOUT WEAPONS.
4. SINCE WHEN DID GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION MEAN THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD NOT BE USED AGAINST THE PEOPLE -- TO TAKE AWAY THEIR OWN MEANS OF DEFENSE -- THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A GUN. THERE ARE MANY OTHER KINDS OF WEAPONS.
YOU WASTE YOUR TIME ON BRING UP THE MATTER OF GUN CONTROL. GO TO THE ROOT OF THE CAUSE OF THE MISUSE OF WEAPONS.
YOU SHAME YOURSELVES. YOU BOW DOWN TO THE PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT POSITIONS.
YOU SHOULD BE THANKFUL THAT I EVEN COMMENT.
 

Ruth R. (215)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 4:19 pm
What I Was Trying To Explain.
HOW TO UP-- ROOT THE MISUSE AND USE OF WEAPONS IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND THE BALANCE OF POWER IN SOCIETY.
5:02 the latest correction and maybe the last to my thought at this time on gun control may be a distraction. There are other issues: how to uproot the causes of the misuse and the use of weapons in the first place???
Do we remember the fight for freedom and the steps to downfall that took place before the natzi's tried to take over in world war two?
correction. Are we pawns in a behind the scenes system that would like people to think that they do not have to defend them selves and their loved ones -- from people who could and would if they could get these weapons -- and defend themselves and others from -- A partly good and partly excellent government system-- if the government turns against the civilians?
Do we remember the fight for freedom and the steps to downfall that took place before the natzi's tried to take over in world war two?
If I was about to get shot any where -- by some person who either planned it, or did not -- I sure would be grateful if some other person {without getting injured and without getting killed} stopped that gun from from going off. Guns are not the only kind of weapons that I would need to be defended from.
THIS DEBATE NEEDS TO BE ENDED. IT IS DISTRACTION FROM THE ROOT CAUSE OF WHY THE MISUSE OF WEAPONS.
The real useful conversation is about how to keep people happy, whole, healthy and sane -- so that people will not misuse weapons of all kinds. Then the actions need to taken -- that help people stay healthy, whole, sane and happy, and at peace. THE GUN ISSUES IS A NON-ISSUE. PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS AND HAVE ALWAYS MADE WEAPONS OF ALL KINDS.
This conversation needs to change it's course -- because it is a distraction from the real subject: The cause of the misuse of guns and weapons.
If you would like to have a peaceful conversation: Many countries have no gun rights --and less deaths and injuries to guns 1A. they have many other kinds of weapons and ways to fight. , 1. They are at the mercy of other who get a hold of "better" weapons -- if trained and self-controled civilians do not have those better weapons. 2. They are at the mercy of those who are taking over the good in the government system. 3. They are at the mercy of the corrupt people in the government system or behind the government system --for example -- raw milk and organic produce being taken by government officials and dumped and trashed.

When the governments and/or the eu and/or the un have FEAR-- HAS AWE AND RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE, THEN THE PEOPLE HAVE FREEDOM.
WHEN THE PEOPLE FEAR THE GOVERNMENT -- THEN THERE IS TYRANNY.

Where are the petitions from the people who would like -- freedom of choice of the kind of weapons they have -- and keep the government regulations out of this matter and/or to a minimum???
Are we being used like pawns in a system making us to think that we do not need weapons --- when that government -- by nature -- may or may not be taking all the power from the people that it possibly can ???
If you go and ban those weapons -- there will be another kind of weapon -- by those who you took it away from.
If you keep petitioning and writing about gun control, you miss the true matter -- that of addressing:
1. What is the true purpose of weapons -- needs a list and to be peaceful conversations.
2. How to help people use weapons for the only the correct reasons.
3. how to stop the misuse of weapons.
4. The self-control and respect and honor of self defense -- peaceful or not --
without or with weapons.
5. Since when did government intervention mean that the government will not be used against the civilians -- to take away a means of their own self -defense -- gun or other weapon?
 

Nancy L. (139)
Thursday January 10, 2013, 8:15 pm
Well stated Ruth. You're right, it is a distraction. And it's being done on purpose.

 
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