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State Department's Keystone XL Analysis Upsets Environmentalists


Environment  (tags: ecosystems, environment, XL Keystone Pipeline protests, activism, activists, humans, pollution, healthconditions, conservation, trees, animals, politics )

Cal
- 665 days ago - huffingtonpost.com
The State Department released their Draft Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement (SEIS) for TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline proposal on Friday, concluding in large part that the proposal is environmentally acceptable.



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lee e. (114)
Friday March 1, 2013, 7:58 pm
Upsets us is an understatement -- they obviously have been purposely appointed and there is an agenda to pursue this suicidal agendda - the President is involved in the plutocratic argument - and unfortunately he's quite pro -- we cannot rely on any of our political allies here - - it's a clear indication that the President and his government is as guilty as the opposing party -- I don't know how to fight the big business any more without a real call for more civil disobedience and possibly civil war -- the fact that Canada is joining forces on this front with the US nat create a dufferebt jind of civil war - one that includes the poor and the indifenous and the victims of all who are in both countries being gouged for the sake of bucks -- I - never have endorsed v;;iolence, but it may well come to it -- this is a report based on no facts and purely propaganda - whisch will ultimately kill us all -- i say kill those bastards before we so kindly sit back and allow them to destroy not only us, but the world!
 

lee e. (114)
Friday March 1, 2013, 7:58 pm
PS - and I'm a Pacifist
 

lee e. (114)
Friday March 1, 2013, 8:03 pm
Once again my anger has created finger -lepsy - especially "Canda is joining forces with the US that creates a different kind of civil war"
 

Alexandra Rodda (177)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 12:17 am
lee e. Your anger is provoked by this betrayal of the right of life on this earth for a continuing existence. All life is programmed to perpetuate itself and to strive for immortality. One way of placating this internal demand is to have an inner conviction that life will go on.
This opinion of the State Department's Draft Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement (SEIS) for the TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline is a stabbing in the back of this aspiration that we have (whether consciously or unconsciously) for life to go on indefinitely, or at least for another couple of million years.
"Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, there would have been a time for such a thing!" (W. S. - Macbeth)

According to James Hansen, approving the pipeline is "Game Over" for climate. Tar Oil gives off twice as much CO2 as the oil that is being used now. Here is what he has to say on the subject:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/10/opinion/game-over-for-the-climate.html?_r=0

I believe that Obama is a strategist and that his tacit agreement to this pipeline going through the USA may have a purpose that may surprise us all. After all, he did say that the Canadians will get that oil across the continent one way or another. Blocking it in the USA will not stop Canada. having it go through the USA may benefit Americans and the world in many and unforeseen ways, whereas having it go through Canada may not.
Yes, we need to increase our response to the threat of global warming. City councils, states private institutions and co-ops can do more to reduce the need for coal and gas.

Here is an example of what I mean:

http://solar.freeonplate.com/diy-how-to/DIY-solar-panels.htm

and another:

http://www.water4gasstore.com/

and lots of knowledge on beyondzeroemissions.org

So, with that rage that lee e. feels to power our efforts, lets all prioritize global warming and let's not forget political action.
One day it may come to lee's call to action, but by then we will know that our best efforts are of no use against the likes of the Koch brothers or their successors.
 

Jennifer C. (169)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 12:26 am
Thank you.
 

Elle B. (82)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 3:43 am
Ty Cal. . .and all the hearts that care. . .

“Nature shrinks as capital grows. The growth of the market cannot solve the very crisis it creates.” ― Vandana Shiva, Soil Not Oil: Environmental Justice in an Age of Climate Crisis Published: October 1, 2008

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." ―Richard P. Feynman

"If you live according to nature, you never will be poor; if according to the world's caprice, you will never be rich." ― Publilius Syrus (42 BC)


". . .The world was a library and its books were the
stones, leaves, grass, brooks, and the birds and
animals that shared, alike with us, the storms and
blessings of earth. We learned to do what only the
student of nature ever learns, and that was to feel
beauty. . . .Life was vivid and pulsing; nothing was
commonplace. . ."

~Ota K'Te/Mochunozhin, (1905-1939) Oglala Lakota [aka:Chief Luther Standing Bull
Teton Sioux]
 

TomCat S. (231)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 4:47 am
Somebody earned their BS in Bullshitology!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 4:52 am
Noted.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 5:16 am
Ditto TonCat...and Lee. Thanks Cal.
 

John Gregoire (264)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 5:18 am
Please note that before the re-election of Obama and his hencchmen, this was predicted by many and poh-pohed by TomCat and other blatant liberals. Now we get this and they have the nerve to couch it in bad science. We had four horrible years for our environment and now we start on four more. Too bad we can't impeach him for destroying our environment. isn't that the same as high treason?

Like Lee, I'm angry!
 

Mike M. (56)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 5:36 am
The state dept is bought just like the rest of the government. Look what is happening through out the nation. The people are being sold out.
 

Anna M. (18)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 5:58 am
I wonder who got the biggest bribe?
 

Ro H. (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 6:41 am
ty
 

Yvette S. (34)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 10:24 am
Noted
 

James Maynard (68)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 12:48 pm
There is a determined group to ram this through,
and it likely will happen. Please don't advocate
violence. We do need to vote better.
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 1:50 pm
State Department accepting citizen comments - here is a Sierra Club link. It keeps opening for me with my name (and my additions to the provided texts) - but if it does for you too and you like my comments you are welcome to use them:
https://secure.sierraclub.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=10451&autologin=true&s_src=213CBOAN01

And it may possibly open for you witthout.

TomCat, I think the someone you are referring to didn't stop at the B.S. degree but went through the More of the Same all the way to the Piled Higher and Deeper.
 

Angelika R. (144)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:02 pm
Well, so this is what "game over" looks like, thank you Hilary and successors, and all others involved in this long planned done deal, thanks Obama! I have all reason to believe the citizens public comments option is for make believe and show because it's probably mandatory.
Thx for the post.
 

Ann Breeden (65)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:13 pm
Environmentalist-"a person who is concerned or advocates the protection of the environment." That's me and I know that it is a lot of the Care2 community. Wouldn't you think that everyone would be an environmentalist?
But no, we unfortunately have a group of people who are so detached from Mother Earth that their understanding of green is the almighty dollar.
In the coming months we're going to need all hands on deck to oppose the climate change tipping point.
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:38 pm
Looks like the State Department is in bed with TransCanada.
 

Yvonne White (233)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:46 pm
Corporate Democrats are only one step up from RepubliCONs - we Knew this was coming. Just as Wall$treet Bank$ters escape Justice, so do Big Oil & other Environmental Pirates. So get Green Party candidates in offices - or at least in the running! Obama is still better than RepubliCONs (They would be celebrating by shooting old people in the face..;) but we will NOT save the Environment or the Economy (which is probably the excuse for this) until we get True Liberal Democrats (like Kucinich) or Progressive Independants (like Bernie) in masse, in office!
 

greenplanet e. (157)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 3:51 pm
It makes me sick that they are trying to justify the pipeline. Terrible.
 

Janet R. (34)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 3:52 pm
John Gregoire - do you think it wouldn't have been approved had Romney been elected? The only presidential candidate that wouldn't have approved it is Jill Stein but there was no way she would be elected. It's business as usual in DC, screw the poor and middle class and protect the rich and corporations. I would be very surprised if it wasn't approved. Greed will kill us all including the greedy bastards but they are too consumed by power and money to care.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 4:45 pm
Very nice comment by lee e. So now I picture hundreds of people in various locations throughout the pipeline route.....clumped in large bunches, displaying civil disobedience by standing, sitting or laying down in the way of portions of the pipeline under construction. It's the only picture that comforts me.
There will be many massive rallies on Earth Day, April 22, to protest this, while promoting renewable green energy....this is being planned right now by The Sierra Club, 350.org and other environmental groups. We are determined; and it's now time for all to join this movement.
 

Yvonne White (233)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 4:56 pm
Amen Lois!:)
 

Eternal Gardener (761)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 6:42 pm
Personally, I'm beyond anger and disbelief... entered a state of hopelessness and despair for the future of life in general... pollution pirates are in reign and it seems we can't do anything about it!
 

magdika-cecilia Perez (131)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 9:58 pm
thank you
 

magdika-cecilia Perez (131)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 9:58 pm
thank you
 

Nimue Pendragon (275)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 2:38 am
Sorry for you, America :(
 

Ram Reddy (7)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 6:36 am
Noted
 

Bmr Reddy (8)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 7:20 am
Noted
 

Michael Kirkby (86)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 10:39 am
Right on the money Lee. It is in Harper's and Obama's interests as they answer to their masters as do the oil firms. Has anyone noticed the radical change in Harper and his policies since the G20 here in Toronto? How about after Carney and Rothschild had their cozy little meeting in 01/2012? CISPA, CNOOK, Nexen; changes to the EI and the OAP and a blatant attempt to nullify any environmental group that gets in its way on the Tar Sands or the Keystone [just ask Forest Ethics]? These all had their birth at the G20. There are dire cuts in service and multiplied attempts at privatization in order to introduce Canadians to what has become common occurrence in the States. It just takes a little longer in Canada. I think we are about to be Friedmanized along the same lines that the US has been. Good grief.
 

Dianne D. (462)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 8:33 am
Sounds like someone in the State Department is getting paid off or pressure from the Republicans to make these statements. They will have to fight the people who put them in office before this goes through. I understand that the dirty oil doesn't even stay in the USA but goes to Europe or Japan for refining.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (448)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 1:01 pm
How much time did this international lie take to generate?
 
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