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POLITICAL END RUN: House Bill Would Route Keystone Pipeline Around Obama


Environment  (tags: ecosystems, environment, XL Keystone Pipeline protests, activism, activists, humans, pollution, healthconditions, conservation, trees, animals, politics )

Cal
- 563 days ago - bloomberg.com
U.S. House Republicans won't wait for President Barack Obama to issue a decision on the Keystone XL pipeline. They plan to vote by the end of May on legislation that would sidestep the White House and offer congressional approval to the TransCanada Corp.



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Sue H. (7)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 8:56 am
How about over our dead bodies??? We don't want no stinkin' pipeline!!!!
 

Arielle S. (317)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 9:33 am
The house republicans need a new house - like one in Siberia maybe. Or maybe they should just go to the mideast with all the other terrorists....
 

Roger Skinner (14)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 12:20 pm
Well, they can try, but I don't see them having enough votes to over-ride a veto.
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 4:11 pm
Noted. Well, you know what they say about "the best laid plans of mice and men....." It's up to us to thwart this. Meanwhile, don't forget Earth Day, April 22nd---big protest rallies planned for that day. I believe 350.org and the Sierra Club are chiefly taking the reins on this.
 

lee e. (114)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 4:38 pm
How about over our dead bodies indeed! This is an oligarchist movement - it is almost the Singularly definitive plans to create an "end world" situation! I don't think I'm exaggerating here -- this is definitely a project worthy of risking our lives to stop! What have we got to lose?
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday March 16, 2013, 7:25 pm
Who in HELL do they think they are?

 

Sherri G. (114)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 4:39 am
Yeah of course the GOP would do that. I sincerely hope should the GOP ever gain the white house we learned how to obstruct and side step constitutional law.
 

Bmr Reddy (8)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 4:45 am
Noted
 

John S. (304)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 5:27 am
After the report, do you think they need to?
 

Gloria picchetti (291)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 5:31 am
In Chicago we fight the pipeline while those downstate view it as a jobs machine. Wouldn't wind and solar be better for jobs and the environment?
 

Anna M. (18)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 6:35 am
Cree Prophecy
When all the trees have been cut down,
When all the animals have been hunted,
When all the waters are polluted,
When all the air is unsafe to breathe,
Only then will you discover
you cannot eat money.
 

Robert Tomlinson (65)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 6:44 am
Anna, don't try to tell the republicans that money is not ALL POWERFUL. Remember that Mitt Romney said that the issues were not that important, but MONEY was the most important. He really thought that the huge money chest he, Rove and others had created would take him to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
 

cecily w. (0)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 7:00 am
On March 13, evidence was publicly released that "job creation" attributable to the XL Pipeline is a myth. The only ones who will benefit will be irresponsible wealthy, and the corrupt politicians who kowtow to them.
 

Tom Tree (254)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 8:09 am
Noted & Shared !
Thank You for bringing to OUR attention !
 

James Travers (46)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 8:16 am
Just more bluster from House Republicans which won't accomplish anything. More concerning is the mixed messages in the recent State Department report downplaying any potential for enviromental impact if the pipeline is built. Frankly, I will be amazed if Obama doesn't allow that abomination to be constructed.
 

James Travers (46)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 8:26 am
P.S. As the State Department report also said, somebody is going to do it somewhere even if it isn't done through the US and if they don't do it by pipeline they will transport it by rail. The rich and greedy have their teeth buried in this tarsands crap and are not going to let it go. I'm not saying that we should stop fighting it but a victory is very improbable.
 

Ro H. (0)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 8:36 am
ty
 

Michael Kirkby (85)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 8:45 am
I'm only going to quote the commodity trader's statement from Bloomberg 10/2012 and that is that he stated that the Pipeline would go through. It was a question of when.

Secondly there is a bill before the state legislature in Nebraska that has been given approval by the governor and is before Obama at this very moment. It proposes another route that will circumvent the major aquifer. Congress may not have the wherewithal to circumvent presidential approval but this bill could tip the favor. The POTUS in an e-mail said very clearly that he is committed to US energy independence and that fossil fuels are a large part of that plan. The Nebraska bill could be the thing that tips his decision.

Thirdly thanks to the Texas Supreme Court justice who granted eminent domain to Trans Canada the southern leg of the pipeline is already being built. How long do you think it will take them to connect the dots? Here's an end run already in progress and the press are ignoring it. Challenges in court will be defeated by the Oil Baron's deep pockets and pork barrel style politics. It's called snake oil y'all and it has been around for a long, long time. Thanks Steve Earle.

Fourthly there are more pipeline accidents that they like to blame on ecological terrorists rather than admit that these accidents occur more frequently than the public hears about. Their Advance Warning system is lucky if it catches 1 out of 100 incidents and there have been over 200 incidents at the Tar Sands Project alone since 2007. Any ecologist who would damage a pipeline is no friend of the earth. That is merely exacerbating an existing problem and I don't like the Tar Sands Project or the proposed pipeline. Deliberately spilling oil into the environment is a rather incredibly stupid thing to do.

Fifthly, did you notice the promise to keep the majority of the oil in North America? Un hunh?? We all know very well that the majority of the oil will be shipped overseas to the highest bidder. That's determined by the commodity traders like the ones at the Conoco Philips holding and processing facility in Oklahoma. It's expensive to have to ship it by the river systems to New Orleans and Houston. There are 43.5 million barrels of oil waiting until the time is right and the traders can maximize profits plus their huge bonuses of course.

Sixthly, environmental clean-up and maintenance jobs would create just as many if not more long term jobs than the oil pipeline will. The Alberta Tar Sands is the largest bitumen pocket. The other pockets within the states are far smaller and have a two to three year life expectancy. There's not as much oil in those sites as the Oil Baron's would have you believe. What happens when they have been exhausted those sites? Is there a containment and clean-up program planned? There should be but there's not. All they can see is the dollar signs.

I think Lee has a point. They don't care and are by the sounds of it quite prepared to write off the American people in their covetous lust for maximum profit. Yes Robert it is quite true. Remember what Amschiel Rothschild said about caring not who made the laws but let me control the cash flow. Change is coming to North America. It could be quite austere and painful. We may lose the Pipeline fight but I'm not going to shut up about it and neither are the rest of us.

I'm not going to blindly accept what these parasitical cretins tell me is acceptable. I'm not going to drink their ideological kool-aid or partake of their corrupt and lethal sacraments. The sad part here in Canada is that like America there really is no political choice anymore. It's a game and they all complement the process controlled by the international financiers. Look at what has happened since the G20 and Mr. Carney's pleasant 01/2012 weekend with Mr. Rothschild. Need I say any more?
 

Varcolac Veroscarius (96)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 9:04 am
The power is in the people, not the goverments!.
 

Tim C. (1925)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 9:38 am
thanks
 

Janet D. (10)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 10:12 am
Please stop drilling into our earth. We have so many other ways to make energy/heat naturally without petroleum. I think all of the increase in sink holes is due to our drilling. It makes sense that if you drill and extract fluids that the earth will shift and fill in the empty hole where the fluids once were! Aside from that we've experienced too many leaks in pipelines that have poisoned our lands and waters. Dangerous in so many ways.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 10:21 am
The entire issue of the pipeline is mired in so much lobbying, and politicians who have personally invested in this. it has become not only a disgrace for this administration, but the entire Congress.
 

Dave C. (214)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 11:56 am
GREEDY OLD POISONERS......
 

Blake W. (11)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 12:45 pm
I blame Obama for not already rejecting the pipeline; what did he expect would happen?
 

Jon Stewart (37)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 12:45 pm
The excuse that the oil will be burned anyway is every bit as lame as Eric Holder's excuse for not holding the banksters accountable for their domestic financial terrorism and general nose-thumbing at us all.
Number One: There is more at stake than just the oil being burned. There is the disruption to the terrain, and the ever-present danger of "worse-case" disaster during its construction and long-term use. There is the loss of sovereignty epitomized by ceding authority of US citizens' private property to a foreign corporation (is THIS possibly what the rest of the world thinks WE'RE doing to THEIR sovereignty when we build military bases and allow OUR corporations to run roughshod over THEIR countries?)
We might as well take the position that murder is OK because everyone dies anyway, so if SOMEONE benefits from it... well, the impact is negligible.
If there was EVER a valid reason to "stand one's ground", including to the point where the entity that's threatening you has to pay the ultimate price... well, this could be it.
I'd almost hope for a total economic collapse. At least then, the Kochs would have no influence, and they SURE wouldn't thrive in a post-collapse society.
 

Barbara K. (84)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 12:51 pm
I hope the President puts a stop to the pipeline now. I cannot believe that he wants to destroy a wide path of our country for his kids any more than we want it done for ours. We have too many natural disasters, such as earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, wildfires hurricanes, etc., not to mention sabatage. Any damage to the pipeline would destroy vast portions of OUR country FOREVER! We just cannot allow it to happen. We take all the risks and get none of the benefits. It is so wrong for a foreign company to come into OUR country and take people's land by Eminent Domain. That cannot possibly be legal.
 

Janet R. (34)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 12:55 pm
Too disgusted to comment
 

Azle B. (17)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 1:16 pm
Expense of this pipeline should be calculated and exposed. The economics of support for the oil industry is extravagant waste for our strapped budget.
 

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 1:38 pm
Oh no! I knew this would happen because the President did not stop it when he could have. He also sold the pitch about clean coal an oxymoron if there ever was one. This confirms my fears. I am now convinced that he too has sold out to the profiteers. Maybe he already had. This is sickening! I am convinced the leaders of corporations are the ones in power; I just kept hoping that my instincts were wrong. Nevertheless, I have to keep hope alive that someone will step in and stop the insanity. Thank you, Cal, for keeping us informed. Thanks for the poem Anna, and Michael your comments are both helpful and intelligent. Destruction and violence just cause more damage to the earth and condition of the spirit of the universe. Gandhi and King are the models for those who object to what is happening in the country. Thoughtful consideration, and cooler heads must prevail.
 

Winn Adams (192)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 1:51 pm
Thanks
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 1:57 pm
Damn Republicans.
 

Debra Van Way (12)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 2:32 pm
I agree with Janet R. How about we pipe that crap through the backer's properties. They would sure squeal then, wouldn't they? A huge filthy oil spill right in the front yard of their mansions. Yeah-fitting.
 

Yvonne Taylor (41)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 2:38 pm
Michael Kirkby, well said! I would like to trust Obama would try to stop this, but he has not fought hard enough, sometimes sounds like he agrees. the study was done by the State Department, personally it does not sound like they used any decent scientists to come up with their findings. Also this is not just about jobs or Global Warming. Anna M. loved your post of the quote.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 2:45 pm
"....could veto...." Emphasis on "could". Of course, this would force both houses to override with 2/3 majority, which is very unlikely. But, being another of corporate amerika's puppets, it is just as unlikely that Obama will veto!
 

Sheila D. (25)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 4:31 pm
Sadly, they don't care what the people think or want; they're just out for the money. After they have destroyed the entire area, split the country in two, and sold off all the proceeds, they will just laugh at those of us who are reeling from the mess while they sit back counting their money. Obviously, they don't care about the farmers, ranchers, or wildlife they will destroy, nor the land, water, or air they will contaminate. Dispicable.
 

Birgit W. (145)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 4:35 pm
No pipelines please!
 

Ann Breeden (65)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 5:01 pm
My words on this issue are simply not printable. I feel betrayed as so many of us do with this information. I will continue to sign everything I need to to stop this insanity.
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 5:02 pm
Thanks.
 

Colleen L. (2)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 5:32 pm
Love the way the political turkeys will over step the president over this issue that we don't want. Yet the important ones about Medicare, Social Security, Education, Gun Control, etc, they can't do CRAP. Thanks Cal
 

Jason S. (57)
Sunday March 17, 2013, 7:21 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Monday March 18, 2013, 7:05 am
God what a bunch of lying Corporate Whores!
First; the so called State Department environmental impact statement was written by Environmental Resources Management an employee of TransCanada with the help of Ensys Energy and ICF International also employees of other Oil Cartel companies involved in the Tar Sands project. And the report states that it is based on the fact that the project IS going to happen regardless.
Second; the tar sands crude is not owned by the USA nor by any US Oil Company, there is no means of ensuring that the USA will 'own' any of the refined product let alone all of it. This is particularly true considering that the US now exports oil and the refined products. the price of the product will be set by the International Market the minuet it is produced just like every other drop of petroleum on Earth.
Third; if this is such a great economic boon, why the hell will the Government of Canada not allow the construction of a pipeline across Canada to any Canadian refineries, going East or West the length of a truly Trans Canadian pipeline would be shorter and end at a major Canadian port.
Fourth; using Texas refineries is more than just questionable. Texas is in the grip of an extended drought but is still using 40% of its available ground water to produce and refine fossil fuels. If that goes up to 50+% just where is the water for human consumption, crops and animals going to come from. Then there is the always ignored fact that the Texas refineries are all located on a major Hurricane target coast.
Disgusting as it is, it is always amazing to see the intentional blind ignorance of raw naked greed at work.
 

Judith Lammers (0)
Monday March 18, 2013, 7:58 am
Wonder how much compensation was paid to those who composed the "environmental assessment" report?
 

Carla van der Meer (511)
Monday March 18, 2013, 10:58 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Nimue P. (249)
Monday March 18, 2013, 6:39 pm
Noted.
 

Dianne D. (463)
Monday March 18, 2013, 8:45 pm
If this happens, I for one will be starting up a petition to have my Republican representatives recalled.
 

lee e. (114)
Monday March 18, 2013, 9:28 pm
Michail and Lloyd seem to have a firm grasp on this suicidal conception that seems at least inevitable is not really the President's "policy", but rather one that Canada has blackmailed the US into cahoots with their malignant plan --- of course it has an initial benefit to both countries short term - both in the alignment of our "partnership", but also in the pockets of the same oligarchs who govern both nations. Yes the US wouldn't have quite the same benefits that Canada might have, but it would reap the benefit of "refining" this gas in Texas, and shipping it from the Gulf (the most accessible waterway to the East)!
This same abnoxious program would gain independence from foreign oil - but at what cost? The new ads would have us believe that the fracked natural gas is "greener" and "cleaner" -- yes - for the most part after refined and in the burning process (ie - usage) for the most part that's true, but it also is a far more dangerous process to both extract and refine, and its use will produce more radon in enclosed areas (such as apartments with poorer ventilation). The cost of both environment and health - as well as the exponential contribution to global warming and water waste will be far greater in both the impacts to our health care systems and our devastating climate change costs to all nations in the world, includin ours - the flash floods, floods, droughts, super storms, rising sea levels and the melting glaciers and ice caps -- will cost the nations of the planet - resulting in a crisis of water, food supply and each nation will necessarily have to respond to its own crisis accordingly - this is the continuation of a man-made crisis gone haywire - and we all must resond!
 
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