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Liberals to Obama: Not So Fast on Social Security Cuts


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Cal
- 503 days ago - csmonitor.com
The worst fears of progressive groups were confirmed Friday: President Obama's budget will include cuts to Social Security. But the call has gone out, and liberals are fighting back.



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Gene Jacobson (251)
Friday April 5, 2013, 3:48 pm
Not only are we fighting back, we are fighting mad. Or maybe that's just me. This is the ultimate betrayal from someone I expected MUCH better of. I've gotten pleas from several organizations for funds to help fight this ridiculous AND unnecessary (even the republicans don't dare touch SS) move. And I've contributed money to every single one of them. If the democratic party turns it back on seniors, what have we left? Ironic that, WE are the only "left" left.
 

Candy L. (477)
Friday April 5, 2013, 4:21 pm
I'm with you Gene! Proud of always being a Liberal. even when we were bombarded with them saying Liberal is a dirty word
 

Candy B. (21)
Friday April 5, 2013, 4:39 pm
Here's a link to Tell Obama We Won't Stand for Social Security benefit cuts Copy & paste http://act.boldprogressives.org/survey/nocuts_wh/?akid=12783.173055.gFWF25&rd=1&source=e1-3mo&t=1
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Friday April 5, 2013, 4:48 pm
Why does this article stop at liberals? Are they the only one effected by this betreyal? Four more years folks; it;s going to be quite a socialistic based roller coaster.
 

Sue H. (7)
Friday April 5, 2013, 5:00 pm
It's not just you Gene. It IS the ultimate betrayal. Thanks for the link Candy. Boo-hiss.
 

Gene Jacobson (251)
Friday April 5, 2013, 5:51 pm
What really aggravates me about this capitulation when NO one, including the republicans (and I hope THEY shoot him down over this) is saying we fix things by attacking our seniors. The only reason SS is in a difficult spot is because of those thieving congresses and presidents that have gone before us. They looted SS every congress, filled the books with iou's they never intended to pay, and NOW do they not only refuse to pay back the money, they accuse US of being the 47%, our own president. That raises my temperature a degree or two. Romney put it in words, Obama wants to put it in law. A pox on both their houses.
 

Jason S. (57)
Friday April 5, 2013, 8:22 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Lynn D. (0)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 2:47 am
The government should be ashamed of themselves and HAVE to pay back all they stole from social security funds...............disgusting move on Obama's part.
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 3:08 am
Thanks.
 

Jenny Sejansky (1)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 4:03 am
Hey-People-CALM DOWN!!!!! Everybody gets so hysterical! THINK ABOUT THIS!
They will not accept it as long as there are tax hikes for the 1%!! YOU KNOW THIS! It has Obama's name on it, it will NOT be passed. It's a way to try to come up with a solution that NOBODY wants to work on. This is a serious (shitty) proposal. He KNOWS they won't agree to it. But they can't say he hasn't compromised (only his entire presidency and the love and respect of his nation)anything or "put a budget on the table". Everything that makes perfect sense to us does not geet passed Republican banter much less a vote or even a debate. Who are you turning on here and for what? This proposal is not too much different than his last one- only now he SHOULD get people tALKING. What has this done to YOU? Have you all gotten off your asses and signed some petitions? Have you written your congress reps? Have you called the WH and made contributions to Emily's List? Have YOU done anything yet? Perhaps a handful of you have, but I wager that most people screaming at Obama now haven't done a GD thing yet until now.
Don't forget Obama is a brilliant man who has his hands TIED! This budget will not pass and he knows it. I don't think he'd put his own integrity on the line just to piss us off. I guess this is what ACTION looks like. What else can he use to get Republicans to talk? Even if the Reps turn and try to say look who's cutting SS now- remember who brought us to this point and who would gladly cut the whole damn program and turn it into a voucher. "Betrayed"? Stop whining and keep DOING something! Watch where this goes. Due to the sequester, our jobs report is already taking a nose dive. Things are going to hell with or without Obama. Have you all forgotten already why and how we are in this place? Go shout about something useful, for God's sake!
 

Robert Scott (194)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 4:50 am
Nobody should be surprised about this. He's been "compromising" with Reps for years. If this goes through, Democrats (what's in a name??!!) will owe this sell out and lose big at the polls.

This has been a one party state for longer than I care to remember.
 

John S. (300)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 5:12 am
About time, ignore the left and right and get the center (if you think it's important to get things done).
 

John Gregoire (254)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 5:13 am
First he screws the environment, then he screws military retiree health care and now he's going after us seniors! In the meantime his idea of leadership is to fly all over the place sucking more dollars out of the DOD budget which pays for that excess.
 

paul m. (93)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 5:19 am
Their will be cuts every where more taxes to pay , less jobs , less pay ,
 

Beverly M. (85)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 6:57 am
I've already lost my retirement from my last job after 20 years there ~ I'll be damned if I'll lose my Social Security without a fight!
 

David King (3173)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 8:34 am
I am an President Obama supporter, but he is about to let the GOP ruin the middle class again!!

News leaked today that President Obama's budget will openly push for cuts to Social Security benefits -- a shot across the bow for the progressives who called their neighbors, spent weekends knocking doors and donated millions to reelect him.

Tell President Obama you don't have his back on this. Sign our petition to stop big cuts to Social Security right now.

Our strategy is simple:

President Obama thinks Democrats will fall in line behind these proposals. If we can show that there is enormous opposition to these Social Security cuts, we can pressure Democrats in Congress to take these devastating cuts off the table.

But we need your help now to do that.

Tell Democrats to reject cuts to Social Security and Medicare by signing our petition today.

We've got to get this done, folks. Let's go.

(please cut and paste the link to sign the petition)

http://act.democracyforamerica.com/go/2642?t=2&akid=3006.1427846.vZDIbN
 

David King (3173)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 9:24 am
Hereís the best idea youíll hear all day: Medicare should be able to negotiate with the drug companies to get better prices on prescriptions for seniors.

This simple reform would cut spending -- by around $24 billion a year -- without hurting seniors. In fact, seniors would end up paying less for their prescriptions.

Even better, we know this would work, because this exact strategy is already working for the Veterans Administration, which uses its size to negotiate with drug companies and, according to a recent study, gets the top ten most prescribed drugs at half the price Medicare pays.

Help me fight for this common-sense solution: Click here to sign my petition calling on Washington to allow Medicare to negotiate with the drug companies!

There are nearly 50 million seniors who rely on Medicare. And if they were allowed to band together and negotiate, they could get a far better deal on the prescriptions they need.

But they canít -- because Medicare is prohibited from negotiating like that. Why? Thereís only one reason: to protect drug company profits.

The drug companies are doing fine without this handout. Itís seniors on Medicare who need the help. And taxpayers need us to be looking for smart ways to cut spending.

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(please cut and paste the link to sign the petition)

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See? Isnít this the best idea youíve heard all day?

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Jason R. (58)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 9:53 am
Unlike the sleeping right, the left holds its reps to standards. I'm PO'd too.
 

Jenny Sejansky (1)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 10:13 am
I'm PO'd, too. It should never have come to this. But now that I've had some time to hear a response and listened to both sides my theory from this morning was, in fact, confirmed. The Reps have already poo-poo'd it as DOA and the cuts we are so angry about are still "not serious" and it's just a non-starter. This has been so for a few months now, folks. This budget has been sitting there. But this is what it looks like: Obama willing to negotiate (and how); Republicans not even coming to the table- again. So, who's serious here?
David K- Thank you so much for contacting me. For some reason, my computer won't let me respond to you through the links. I'm sorry! I am not tech-savvy. Any ideas?
 

David King (3173)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 10:32 am
Thank you Jenny!!!

I am soo glad that this was a stratigy... I almost was about to go Republican on President Obama...
 

Dave C. (213)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 11:51 am
good..........I'm disappointed too....but it is the job of The President to be President for everyone and unfortunately, too many everyones voted for too many Repuglicons for whatever reason......too many progressives/liberals slept in 2010 and let too many GOP pols win......and we didn't stand up and be strong enough in 2000 to make sure the Supreme Court didn't have to be involved or to stop Bush in 2004 when we could have voted him out, etc.............


so while I am angry at these cuts and am writing, writing, writing, etc.....Mr. Obama is not and cannot be a dictator or if God forbid we ever have another GOP President or the GOP gets stronger in Congress it can only get worse......
 

Jaime A. (32)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 1:56 pm
Thanks.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 2:29 pm
Great article. Thanks for sharing. Obama needs to keep his hands off Social Security.
 

Jenny Sejansky (1)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 2:46 pm
David K.-We can't have that! :)
 

Yvonne White (231)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 4:33 pm
The Democratic Party itself had better start throwing out ANY Democrats who even mention "compromise" on Social Security & Medicare!!! Or it will find itself empty of members!!!! NO Democrat should EVER even whisper "cuts" in the same breath as Soc. Sec. &/or Medicare! The RepubliCONs know keeping Unemployment High means less paid into Social Security - so Creating JOBs would cure 2 problems!
 

Jenny Sejansky (1)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 8:06 pm
Amen, Ynonne! At leaset now Americans need to move on this and own the issue to where there is no question and no compromise. YET- how do we get the 1% to pay their fair share?
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Saturday April 6, 2013, 8:53 pm
Have been saying this over and over and over for how long now and so many just didn't seem to think the ONE would do something like that to Americans..the people he swore to protect...it was ALL lies people! There is more to come and it's gonna get worse! I knew this man was evil before he ever got in the White House! ANyone who thinks he really cares about you...think again...he is out for only one person and that is himself!!
 

Jenny Sejansky (1)
Sunday April 7, 2013, 8:28 am
Carol- The only EVIL going on here is what Obama has to play to. Nobody with a brain wants to make cuts that deep to SS and medicaid. Especially when fixing SS is SO DAMNED EASY! Get the 1% to pay their fair share, bring our jobs BACK to the US and watch not only the economy grow, but SS will boom again, too AS SOON AS WE START PAYING BACK INTO IT! But we can't have that unless we are willing to "prove to the Republicans" that we are "serious enough" about giving up what WE need. That's what the Republicans want from you, Carol. Not obama, the Republicans in Congress who won't even come to the table to create those JOBS, JOBS, JOBS they preached about for so long during their campaigns. Well, we're still waiting for Congress to do half of its job. They really "care about you", too.
 

David King (3173)
Sunday April 7, 2013, 8:32 am
Good morning Jenny!

YOU COULDN'T BE MORE RIGHT!!!

And the American people know this. It doesn't matter how the GOP wants to spin this (or re-write history)... Our memories really are longer than one week. We really do remember that far back!!!
 

Lois Jordan (54)
Sunday April 7, 2013, 1:05 pm
Thanks, Cal. I've signed all petitions to protect Soc. Sec. and will continue to sign and complain.
The Fed owes the Soc. Sec. Trust Fund billions of dollars it borrowed to fund the 2 wars. It hasn't been paid back, and I'd like to know why. Who's in charge of this mess?
I know why they're trying to destroy our present system of Soc.Sec.....because they want to privatize it so Wall St. can gamble it away while making obscene profits. When Bush tried this, the complaints were loud, strong and firm. Do they think they're just going to "wait us out?" I'm already explaining to my young adult kids that they should always be against privatization of Soc. Sec.
 

lee e. (114)
Sunday April 7, 2013, 1:28 pm
I wish that Jenny were right, but the history hasn't proven so - if it were "right" he would have rejected and banned Tar Sands by now, he would have toured the country with Bernie S by his side, he would have pardoned Bradley Manning, he would never have signed the NDAA, he would be more open re - his plans of drone usage!
I was disheartened that I didn't have a choice last election - and almost voted for Stein - but have never been such a traitor to "my party", but now I feel it is My Party that is the traitor! I want a few more Parties to come into prominence and let us have some "legitimate" choices! I feel Jenny - just insulted me by saying that some of us are not working by signing petitions et al - a "rant" I can fully appreciate and actually admire, but for the fact that I - who do all the things she mentioned - daily - sometimes several hours a day (it's what I consider "my work", since I became disabled and forced to subsist on a very meager life depending on SSI - for my livelihood - and the money I saved - is now invested in my son's house) - no I can't afford to give money to any - I can't afford new clothes for god's sake - I'm living sub-poverty level in NYC ( which is the better place for us elderly "moochers"! If they take away much more - I may be on the street! I already go to "soup kitchens" --- it's a 1% world out there - and I'll fight it even if it means fighting the Party that I have depended on to help its citizens!
 

Carol H. (229)
Monday April 8, 2013, 4:59 am
noted, not much we can do but fight back
 

Jenny Sejansky (1)
Monday April 8, 2013, 8:03 am
Lee E- I did not insult you.So very sorry if you think I did. If you read what i WROTE, i SAID most OF AND THERE IS A HANDFUL OF FOLKS WHO DO. i KNOW YOU fight back. But you can't blame this one on Obama.
 

David King (3173)
Tuesday April 9, 2013, 8:41 am
At 12:30PM Eastern, bold progressive activists will join Senator Bernie Sanders and others to deliver over 2 million petition signatures to the White House. We're telling President Obama: No cuts to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid benefits.
 

David King (3173)
Tuesday April 9, 2013, 8:53 am
Congress has drafted a budget ó three of them in fact. And tomorrow President Obama will release his budget to spend more than 1 trillion of our dollars. We need to ensure he makes good on his campaign promise to cut billions in subsidies to Big Oil.

Not only are these subsidies a drain on our budget, they are helping wreck the planet by ensuring we rely on fossil fuels for our energy needs ó when clean, green alternatives are more than capable of powering our lives.

Please sign our petition today asking President Obama to end the Big Oil Billion Dollar Bonanza by cutting these taxpayer-funded subsidies from his budget proposal. Your signature will be delivered directly to the president.

Big Oil doesn't need the money, and we don't have the money to give. The five biggest oil companies on the planet made more than $110 billion in profits last year, while the President and Congress have been forced to make major budget cuts to important programs that protect our people and the planet.

Even worse, these subsidies make all of us investors in the biggest polluters on the planet. Each year the planet is warming faster than the year before, causing more extreme weather events, record heat waves, wildfires, droughts and floods across the planet. Burning more oil will only make the planet get warmer faster, and lead to even worse disasters than Superstorm Sandy.

President Obama said during his re-election campaign that he would cut over $4 billion of the subsidies going to Big Oil. On Wednesday, he releases the first budget of his new term, so let's work together to remind the president to follow through on his promise.

Sign our petition today to tell President Obama to end the Big Oil Billion Dollar Bonanza.
(please cut and paste the link to sign the petition)

http://www.webaction.org/site/R?i=1gg7MPci4cBqMGTzosFSLA
 

lee e. (114)
Tuesday April 9, 2013, 7:28 pm
Jenny - Obama introduced Sequester - with the ignorant belief that it was to implausible to consider -- we know the repugnants in this Congress - why would he introduce yet another thing that they just "might" take him up on! I didn't mean to make it "personal" - I meant that it "felt" that way -- don't worry! :)
Thanks David K - had MD appointments all day - just got around to signing the petition now - I've been asking for similar constraints - didn't see this one (probably haven't opened it yet) !
 

Jason R. (58)
Friday April 12, 2013, 7:36 pm
Let's not ever forget, lawyers lawyer. They don't think as plainly as we do. Everything starts out as posturing.
 
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