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Women's Prayer at Western Wall Sparks Protest


World  (tags: world, politics, israel, women's rights, religion, humanrights, 'CIVILLIBERTIES!', freedoms, society )

Cal
- 498 days ago - latimes.com
Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews flooded into the Old City's Western Wall Plaza early Friday in a boisterous and sometimes violent protest against a group of female activists exercising a newly court-affirmed right to pray at the holy site in a similar fa



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John S. (304)
Friday May 10, 2013, 4:50 am
Noted.
 

Carol H. (229)
Friday May 10, 2013, 5:30 am
noted, thanks Cal
 

Carol D. (109)
Friday May 10, 2013, 12:15 pm
oh dear bet that did not go down too well

noted
 

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Friday May 10, 2013, 4:39 pm
Thank you. (n)
 

pam w. (191)
Friday May 10, 2013, 7:03 pm
Damned misogynists!
 

Jason S. (57)
Friday May 10, 2013, 7:58 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Friday May 10, 2013, 10:35 pm
"Critics accused Hoffman’s group of exploiting the issue for attention and ignoring centuries of tradition at the Western Wall."

Traditions are not carved in stone. They are meant to help people, not shackle them. There comes a time when traditions must move aside for new traditions, just as society has grown.
 

Patricia Long (1)
Friday May 10, 2013, 11:20 pm
Noted and thanks.
 

Patricia H. (468)
Friday May 10, 2013, 11:27 pm
done
 

Alfred Donovan (46)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 1:42 am
although I am pro Israel I find these Ultra Orthodox Jews to be a proverbial pain in the butt they contribute nothing to the state Of Israel.They are a drain on the country's economy they do not recognise the state or serve in the IDF.These idiots still live in the past or do they pretend to be religious in order that they do not have to serve their country during the numerous wars that Israel has had to fight in order to save the country from destruction.If they do not want to serve in the forces or stop persecuting other Jew's then it's about time they were deported to some Arab country and see how they would be treated .However I don't think any other country would accept them.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 2:06 am
I don't see the point to this. If anyone of any religion doesn't agree with that religion then they can make the biggest difference by leaving that religion. First 1 leaves, then 2, then 50, then 600, on to 1,000, 3,000, 20,000, 50,000, 1,000,000. Then the point is made. Protest with your feet in the direction of OUT!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 2:14 am
like the post
 

Lynn D. (0)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 2:45 am
interesting........if they don't like it --- leave! Thanks!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 4:22 am
bloody hell
 

Gloria picchetti (290)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 4:35 am
What does compromise mean? A women's area with fainting couches?
 

Fi T. (16)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 5:15 am
Freedom of speech?
 

paul m. (93)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 5:23 am

Noted,,,,See Alfred Donovan...
 

Jaime A. (32)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 7:00 am
Noted.
 

Shanti S. (0)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 7:43 am
Thank you.
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 7:44 am
I saw the picture, did not see any story, have not read of this elsewhere (perhaps my fault), but Donovan's point seems wise. In general, ANY fundamentalist stance is delusional, buying heavily, obsessively, into fairy tales.
 

Deborah W. (6)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 9:08 am
Prayer is prayer, by one and all, contemplative or community, to the same entity ... why must we always spoil everything with trivia ... be glad there's prayer.
 

Deborah W. (6)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 9:14 am
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Sue Angela, Friday,May 10, 2013, 9:47 PM

Comments on the article presented only, don't waste our time sorting through your ignorance..
 

Michael Kirkby (85)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 1:36 pm
If these guys ruled the country y'all can be damned sure they would be just as bad as any Muslim or right wing Christian sect. I abhor all religion of any stripe, occult or mainstream.
 

Madhu Pillai (22)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 2:19 pm
As in all religion men think they are the top dogs, they use it to keep women as second class citizens.
 

Birgit W. (144)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 2:58 pm
Noted.
 

lee e. (114)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 3:13 pm
Fiddler on the Roof? - about time - I'd say!!
 

Jeremy S. (2)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 4:26 pm
Everyone, of any gender, race, or class, deserves an equal opportunity to worship wherever they choose, in my opinion! But religion tends to separate people, as I see it--the majority of wars on this planet have been caused by religion, at the core. Sure, there are other issues involved, but religion was usually the impetus. The Crusades are a case in point, as are the current conflicts in the Middle East, and a whole history of conflict in Ireland, to name just a few. (I could cite Old Testament times too, but the authenticity of that chronicle of that mythological era is uncertain.)
 

Jude Hand (59)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 4:49 pm
Noted. This isn't a time when there needs to be division among the Jews. It's time to pray for peace there. I understand both "sides" of the issue and it's sad that this is happening.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 6:47 pm
there's no "fun" in fundamentalism....unless you like to squash everyone who doesn't goosestep to your dogma.
If I was a "believer" in any religion that squashed women, I would quickly take off the blindfold and drop out, cause something stinks.
 

Susie S. (4)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 6:56 pm
idiot fanatics of any religion are the cause of so many problems!!It's about time ALL men from ALL religions recognize that women are EQUAL!!
 

bob m. (32)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 8:13 pm


The traditions of men ...never saved anyone.
 

Leann Wells Huber (0)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 8:59 pm
C'mon men, GROW UP and LEARN TO SHARE!
 

Sheila S. (64)
Saturday May 11, 2013, 9:32 pm
I feel that combining prayer with protest offensive. I believe there is a time and place for each, and do not deny that the women have a valid argument. But does it not profane the sanctity of the service to do so in anger and hostility?
 

bob m. (32)
Sunday May 12, 2013, 8:46 am

@ sheila...to these men.. women standing before the wall IS a profane thing....they swat at knats and flies....they have eyes but do not see ... ears ..but refuse to listen..hearts of stone .. they refuse the Stone that was rejected.
 

John B. (215)
Sunday May 12, 2013, 8:03 pm
Thanks Cal for the link to the very informative article by Edmund Sanders. Kudos to these activists and to the
Jerusalem judge who affirmed their right to continue their prayer service at the site. I have been supporting a group called New Israeli Fund for their efforts in making Israel a more secular state and helping oppressed segments of Israeli society. You can check out their site here: http://nif.org/ and/or read about them at wikipedia.org. Read and noted.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Sunday May 12, 2013, 10:57 pm
Noted!
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday May 13, 2013, 8:18 am
Why do these Reform Judaism women come to the Orthodox section of the Wall to make their services their way, showing blatant disrespect to the place? They already have Robinson arch, where they can sing as much, as they want.

Orthodox men or women do not come there to set up their rules and to ridicule Reform Jews.

It's a shame that these women are allowed to resort to open provocations so often, and police does not stop them from insulting people of different views.
 

Kathy Niell (98)
Tuesday May 14, 2013, 9:30 pm
Any excuse to keep women down!
 
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