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British Prime Minister Huddles With Security Team After Hacking Death


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- 584 days ago - cnn.com
Prime Minister David Cameron convened an emergency meeting of Britain's civil emergency committee on Thursday, looking for answers in the aftermath of the daylight hacking death of a man thought to be a British soldier.



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Past Member (0)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 4:53 am
This poor soldier was beheaded Woolwich is too close for comfort So sad for his family Its grim when you cannot wear anything to stand up for your country What is wrong with these muslim nutters
 

lee e. (114)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 6:17 am
I think we've all wrought a grim reprisal, there is only so much "shock and awe" that any country can withstand before individuals will attempt revenge under any god's name! So sad!
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 7:30 am
There are no words to equal the horrific crime that was committed against an innocent soldier. May the soldier rest in peace knowing we will never forget him, and may his family find solace in being comforted by a country who mourns with them. May the powers that be save us all from this sort of sadistic, criminal madness called extremist religion.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 10:51 am
"The only reasons we killed this man ... is because Muslims are dying daily," he said in video aired by CNN affiliate ITN.
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"This British soldier is an eye for an eye, a tooth for tooth," he said. "We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you until you leave us alone."

THIS IS DEVASTATING!
 

Winn Adams (205)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 11:47 am
Horrible . . .
 

Pogle S. (88)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 11:59 am
Insane
 

. (0)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 12:23 pm
If we adhere to the principle of 'an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth where does it stop?
 

Billie C. (2)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 12:41 pm
i hope england will now stand up for their people and remove the muslims back to what ever hell hole they came from. they don't want help they want to take over and terrorize.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 2:06 pm
While I don't want to mistake mental illness for "terrorism" or revenge, I agree with those who call this "insane."
 

linda newman (3393)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 2:29 pm
awful
 

Birgit W. (152)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 2:46 pm
What is wrong with us people? This is just horrific!
 

Aileen P. (37)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 3:14 pm
I also agree with those who call this insane.
 

Carlene V. (203)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 3:21 pm
Untold horror in the name of religion. This is such a tragic death of an innocent man.
 

Stan B. (123)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 3:29 pm
It's a pity previous British Prime Ministers didn't do a bit more "huddling" before they allowed all the unrestricted immigration from third world dumps.
Sadly Britons and other Europeans are going to pay a very heavy price for this.
 

Debra Tate (17)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 3:48 pm
This is just a glimmering of things to come if we don't close our borders soon! They come in every day! Our government office, who is in charge of our borders (DHS) and background checks when passports are requested, are slacking to say the least! And if they are not doing their job, then What are they doing?
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 4:26 pm
What is wrong with them? The exact same thing that is wrong with White Supremacists. One will not be solved without solving the other.
 

valda p. (13)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 4:45 pm
This religion? of hate and death is spreading like a cancerous growth in all countries -it is very well organised and planned -immigration -must stop-they have openly stated they will take over from within -they don't have to start a war -it is being sanctioned by allowing -polygamy -4 wives and many -many children and for those who for their own -agenda kowtow to them -allowing -that evil law -sharia to co-exist along side with our own laws of the land -has aided them in their quest for world -jihad and conquest.
 

John Coleman (18)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 4:45 pm
Must have been "random street violence" since the perps yelled the standard jihad religious chant so it can't be a terror incident since they weren't "evil right wingers". This and incidents like Boston and the Time Square bombing attempt sure are excellent advertizements for "comprehensive immigration reform".
 

Jason S. (57)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 7:16 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Aurea Walker (216)
Thursday May 23, 2013, 7:36 pm
My heartfelt condolences for the family of this young soldiers murder. To go against Muslims on our part is not appropriate. Jihadist terrorist are not Muslims they are just TERRORIST! What about Lanza here in the USA ? He killed 26 innocent children and adults yet the NRA will not support background checks. How about the Oklahoma City bomber? It is way too easy to point to religion and not to the fact that there simply are some very disturbed, violent, insane people amongst us. There are no easy answers but hopefully we can try to make this a better world for all when we become inclusive and accepting of all our differences.
 

caroline s. (79)
Friday May 24, 2013, 2:00 am
Awful.
 

Stan B. (123)
Friday May 24, 2013, 2:26 am
Aurea Walker. I can never understand why people like you try to mitigate this atrocity, committed in the name of Islam, by bringing up another atrocity which had nothing to do with religion.
I can't recall Lanza quoting passages from the Koran when he murdered those innocent children. Did he shout Allah Akbar like these two evil butchers did?
 

Aurea Walker (216)
Friday May 24, 2013, 4:59 am
Stan B - People like me? Pray tell what is exactly is people like me? I am trying for a logical balanced perspective on what terrorist are. There is NO justification for hating over ONE BILLION Muslims for the acts of terrorist! In no way am I condoning any terrorist acts of violence at any level. Insane people do these violent acts and they may use religion as an excuse for their acts. By the way my daughter proudly served in the USMC and my nephew was in the army and lost a leg in Irag, so please DO NOT disparage my pride as an American. Hate is not the answer to anything. Lanza in his own way was equally as insane as the two "butchers" in England and far deadlier. The Oklahoma bomber was also insane with a far greater destruction of human lives. He also had his political agenda.
 

Alexandra Rodda (177)
Friday May 24, 2013, 5:06 am
As a child I figured out that one may be able to fight fire with fire, but one cannot fight evil with evil.
By becoming filled with rage and hatred against an evil opponent, one becomes evil as well.
I remember seeing on television, soon after the September 11 attack, an American talking about it. Unlike all other commentators, when he was asked about what he would do about this situation he said that he would say to those responsible "Brothers,what have we done to you to make you do such a terrible thing to us? Can we talk about this openly and see if we can straighten things out between us and make peace?"
However, because America was after oil, there were the attacks on Iraq and on Afghanistan. A kind of "Killing two birds with one stone."
It is possible that all this has gone too far, but one should not give up the attempt to bring about understanding and peace.
My condolences to to all those that loved the British soldier Lee Rigby and especially to his orphaned 2 year old son and to the whole British nation that grieves for him. I too grieve for him. I have lived in Woolwich for some time and what happened is very real and vivid to me because I well remember the people there.
Yet to do what they do: "Tooth for tooth and eye for eye" would lead to continual fighting and terror. Probably the sages that first said that wanted to restrain their savage followers by limiting retaliation to no more than the damage incurred. It meant "don't go out and kill a whole tribe just because someone knocked your tooth out!" It did not mean that one had a duty to get a "Tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye."
There ought to be a think tank created of the best qualified people both from Western countries and Muslim countries that will be able to find a strategy and a path of peace and a solution to what promises to become an ever more horrifying terror for all.
 

Kerrie G. (135)
Friday May 24, 2013, 5:15 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Ro H. (0)
Friday May 24, 2013, 5:21 am
ty
 

Gene Jacobson (256)
Friday May 24, 2013, 8:23 am
"Abu Barra blamed Wednesday's attack not on his friend Michael Adebolajo -- who he says is the bloody, cleaver-wielding man shown talking in the video aired by CNN affiliate ITN -- but on the British government and predicted there may be more attacks."

If there is something one could make money on easily it would be the truth of this statement. Jihad is their sacred duty and there are imam's all over the middle east calling for more such attacks. And there will be. Yes, most Muslims are peaceful and not terrorists, but I would certainly like to see them, and organizations like CAIR, condemn these acts as NOT Islamic. The silence when such things happen, the silence about the riots in Sweden, Norway, France and Britain should not exist. Muslims who know this is not their religion should say so, often and frequently, lest they be tarred with the same brush. He who is silent is deemed to consent. The way this stops is for the peace loving members of secular societies and Islamic societies to call this what it is and punish murdering criminals. Not give them the martyr's image they want. Sunni and Shiite war with each other in the middle east, extremists of both groups war with everyone in the world.

That the terrorists, murderers, are a minority can be acknowledged by both sides and dealt with by people from everywhere as the danger they are to us all. Simply ignoring them is NOT working. For anyone. They make the peaceful followers of Islam look bad and they raise fear, anxiety and hatred in other parts of the world for the actions of a few. Yet somehow, they are well-funded. Perhaps that is a starting point, tracing the money trail and cutting it off.

Were it not for the oil, this would be confined to the middle east, but for western meddling and acceptance of the unacceptable, we have aided in creating this monster that threatens the world. So, it is the peace loving people of the world that need convene and figure out how to end this threat.

Not one more innocent should die in the name of human religion. And that is what these all are, in my opinion, which will remain so until someone produces their supreme being and we are told this is her will. Which is NEVER going to happen. Until then it is just people killing other people. And we should be able to deal with that as we have since we came down from the trees. Clouding the issue with religion as an excuse doesn't change the essential nature of the crimes being committed, it never has and it never will. We should all be able to agree on that and from that point work together to isolate and eliminate what are no more than common criminals hiding behind religion. They may think what they wish, but they may NOT inflict harm on others because of it, no more than Tim McVeigh could, they are the same people, just following different, but every bit as dangerous philosophies. The world can deal with that, it always has. We have a world organization created for just this purpose. And in my opinion, it is asleep at the wheel.
 

Aurea Walker (216)
Friday May 24, 2013, 11:06 am
Dear Alexandra and Gene, thank you so much for your intelligent, eloquent and emphatetic posts. I have sent you both stars and if I could I would send you both 10,000 stars. Hate and fear are never the answer.
 

lee e. (114)
Friday May 24, 2013, 11:33 am
Thanks Gene! You're so right when you say "not one more innocent should die in the name of religion", I'm afraid my initial response was one of introspection as to why such insane acts are being done in the name of religion, and what spawned such vitriolic hatred (I fear the answer to that is obvious), I didn't even acknowledge the victim, or those who will suffer his loss, for which I truly am sorry. Thanks again for the post.
 

Ge M. (218)
Friday May 24, 2013, 2:31 pm
Aurea, If you had any understanding of the Koran you would know that there are 109 statements in the Koran that require Muslims to kill non-Muslims and any good Muslim must kill or convert any non-Muslim. You would only be allowed to stay as you are if you paid jizya and suffered apartheid. I am not saying that every Muslim is a terrorist but, according to the FBI, most terrorists are Muslims.

I would also point out that you are as much a target as the serving soldier, as were those in Boston, 9/11, Benghazi, and every other terrorist attack on civilians. Your government allows soldiers to make mischief (attacking Muslims) and the citizens/civilians pay taxes which allows the government to send the soldiers in the first place. Surah 5:33 “The punishment of those who wage war against God and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”

Note that I am merely telling you what they use and what it means. It also means that they cannot be negotiated with.

The problem arises in that the West refuses to accept that this is happening and, as a result, we get people who allow these philosophies to grow unchecked. We have Cameron saying that we cannot allow this to happen again. Sadly it will because we allow Muslim people to have communities that do not assimilate. An example is a recent court case where a 19 year old Muslim male, born in the UK, raped a 13 year old girl. His defence - he did not know that Sharia law does not apply in the UK. As long as we condone and accept this behaviour, that we have imams saying that they will not recognise the law of the land in which they live, then we will have problems.

Obviously, not all Muslims behave like this but a sufficient number do and they have created large no go areas in Europe causing concern http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/2367/european-muslim-no-go-zones

Please don't start with the usual rubbish of you hate all Muslims etc nowhere do I say that.
 

Aurea Walker (216)
Saturday May 25, 2013, 3:30 pm
G.M. I all to well know the Koran, the Torah and the bible which is why I am an agnostic. Will not go into a long diatribe on differences of opinion on this matter. In my book ALL religions carry inherent problems and what Christians have done over the last two millennium is truly evil! To single out Muslims is what I find egregious considering what the Christian WRONG OUR DOING TO AMERICA. yes, many, perhaps 90% of attacks have been done by Muslims in the prior two decades. But what damage has Christian America done in the same period of time? How many have we killed? All I am trying to focus on is that we are being manipulated by our politicians and corporations to live in constant fear and that is not acceptable.
 

Aurea Walker (216)
Saturday May 25, 2013, 3:39 pm
(Continued) by making Muslims the evil of the world keeps the Christians in power. Look no further than our own despicable Ann coulter, rush Limbaugh, Glenn beck et al.... You will see the threads of the whole Christian way as being the only way. NOT!
 

Allan Yorkowitz (448)
Thursday May 30, 2013, 2:43 pm
All I know is, this government needs to act quickly, and severly.
 
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