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Snowden's Fate Unclear Despite Asylum Offers


World  (tags: Ed Snowden, world, politics, usa, russia, NSA, domestic secrets, surveillance programs, whistleblowing, conflict, ethics, 'HUMANRIGHTS!', humanrights )

Cal
- 574 days ago - news.yahoo.com
Despite asylum offers, many obstacles stand in the way of the fugitive NSA leaker from leaving a Russian airport -- chief among them the power and influence of the United States.



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Carol H. (229)
Saturday July 6, 2013, 2:06 pm
noted, thanks Cal
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Saturday July 6, 2013, 4:24 pm
Noted. I wish this young man well. Last I read, Venezuela seems to be the best place so far. Making Evo Morales jet land for refueling after not allowing it to fly over airspace in a few European countries has put much of South America on the same page recently. It has become an international incident and could have many ramifications worldwide. I'll be trying to keep up with the most current info.
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (288)
Saturday July 6, 2013, 5:48 pm
Yes I read that to Lois
 

Michael M. (60)
Saturday July 6, 2013, 9:51 pm
Latin America has long understood US coercion and manipulation. Believe me, they have been on the same page for a long time.
This season much personal change has caused me to visit care2, observe the timbre of US citizen thought and presumption, and look more closely at what seems to be a considerable lack of understanding of the world. I suggest that everyone not book tours, remain in urban tourist traps, but actually VISIT the world and interact with other people of other places.

Even one single immersion might be the key to breaking through to some farsighted understanding. Leave the cradle behind as completely as possible, just for a while. What you are being fed there may not be real nurturance nor sustenance.
 

Danuta Watola (1217)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 1:14 am
noted
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 2:13 am
I hope Mr. Snowden is well and FREE. I do wonder however after all he is MISSING in RUSSIA....
 

Frances Darcy (225)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 2:21 am
Noted
 

Elsa Boet (0)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 2:23 am
signed and noted
 

Anita B. (67)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 3:22 am
The fact are America is HIDING something, so what IS IT & why are they chasing after one MEN? My bet is, America is no longer TRUST WORTHY, because over recent years they've had in prison people who have done no wrong, only discovered their data base isn't as SAFE as it should been.
America isn't trusted 100% ANY-MORE!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 4:05 am
This is not a list of countries one would choose to live in.
 

Gloria picchetti (301)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 4:46 am
I don't care what happens to him.
 

Fi T. (17)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 4:48 am
Allow him safety
 

Sonali G. (0)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 5:39 am
Ridiculous
 

John Gregoire (265)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 5:48 am
He deserves no more than to be led back to the USA in cuffs. He is a TRAITOR, a person whose word is mush and a narcissist to boot! In the US he would be afforded our legal system, on the run he can have our hunters.
 

Cyrille D. (135)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 7:12 am
There is so much more to the story than what people think. This case is just one case. How much does America (and all other nations) hide from all of us ? Time to wake up, Humanity.
 

Lisa sick Windsor (149)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 8:08 am
Noted, ty Cal!
 

Alexandra Rodda (177)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 8:12 am
What would you do if you were Snowden?
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 2:17 pm
noted thanks
 

Susanne R. (249)
Sunday July 7, 2013, 7:25 pm
I'm not condemning Edward Snowden. I'm not even sure where I stand. But please consider this article, which was written by a brilliant woman who has a wealth of hands-on knowledge and experience in foreign affairs:

Trudy Rubin: For Snowden, odd bedfellows
By Trudy Rubin

The global hunt for Edward Snowden is damaging U.S. interests in ways that go far beyond the intelligence data he leaked.

The wild flight of the fugitive leaker -- from Hong Kong to the transit area of Moscow's Sherymetyvo Airport, and perhaps on to Ecuador -- has turned into a public humiliation for the White House. U.S. officials publicly threatened "consequences" if Snowden wasn't returned, only to be openly rebuffed by Chinese officials and Russia's Vladimir Putin. This made embarrassingly clear how little leverage President Barack Obama has in Moscow or Beijing (and how much wiser it would have been to request Snowden's return in private).

Most disturbing, the Snowden affair has enabled some of the world's worst human rights offenders to portray themselves as champions of freedom by defending Snowden while denouncing America as a massive violator of rights.

China's Xinhua news agency branded the United States as "the biggest (cyber)villain in our age." Russian parliamentarians did likewise. You might think that such self-righteous claims would be dismissed as political posturing. Yet in today's world, with America's image sullied by Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, and by our paralyzed politics, these charges can find a receptive audience, not only abroad but at home.

So let's look at the records of the countries that are offering Snowden the greatest support.

For starters, there is something bizarre about the list. While Snowden claims to be defending

personal freedoms, he has sought shelter from egregious violators of human rights, including China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela and Ecuador. Whatever his motives, this lends an air of hypocrisy to his claims.

He took refuge in Hong Kong, which is part of China, whose leaders control the country's Internet portals, block content and monitor individual access. The Chinese censor print and electronic media and have "the largest recorded number of imprisoned journalists and cyber-dissidents in the world," according to Amnesty International. Chinese government hackers have conducted massive commercial and military espionage in the United States (and presumably elsewhere) and even breached Google's computers.

Beijing is obviously delighted that it can fend off U.S. complaints by claiming America does likewise. Such charges are bogus -- and they know it. Whatever your opinion about the National Security Agency's surveillance programs, the fact is that Congress OK'd them and set up special courts to monitor them. The U.S. public can debate whether the controls should be tightened, and demand change.

In China, no Congress or courts govern surveillance nor can Chinese citizens oppose it. Government hackers break into the software of international companies such as Apple to steal industrial secrets -- on a massive scale. As Obama noted, that's not normal intelligence gathering; "that's theft."

Then there's Russia, where the state controls all major newspapers and national TV networks, which are still the major news source for the bulk of the population. Journalists are beaten up or murdered, and the perpetrators, conveniently, are never found. Political dissenters are cowed, arrested, or driven into exile.

So when Putin praises Snowden as a "human rights activist" who "struggles for freedom of information," it's hard not to gag. Any Russian who did similarly would wind up in the gulag or worse.

Snowden's final destination -- possibly Ecuador via Venezuela -- is equally odd for a defender of freedom. As pointed out by Bill Sweeney, editorial director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, Venezuela has shut down independent broadcasters via a system of politicized regulations.

As for Ecuador, its populist president, Rafael Correa, has criminalized reporting that is critical of his government -- and prosecuted journalists who attempt it. If Correa grants asylum to Snowden, it won't be because he loves press freedom, but because he wants to give Obama a black eye.

That brings us to the heart of the matter. Snowden's saviors have seized a delicious opportunity to deflect U.S. criticism of their own cyberattacks and rights violations by branding the United States as the real sinner. Dogged by images from Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo, Washington has become an easy target. Even some allies have tired of America's human rights demands (which are readily ignored when strategic concerns trump them, as in Syria).

So, critics of American hubris may cheer when Putin praises Snowden -- or when the People's Daily proclaims that Snowden "tore off Washington's sanctimonious mask." It's necessary to remind them: The countries helping Snowden aren't doing so because they dislike spying. On the contrary. They don't want limits on their own surveillance, just on ours.

Trudy Rubin is a columnist and editorial-board member for the Philadelphia Inquirer, P.O. Box 8263, Philadelphia, Pa. 19101. Her email address is trubin@phillynews.com.

She's right. Edward Snowden certainly has made some strange bedfellows!
 

Jason R. (66)
Monday July 8, 2013, 7:58 pm
Ellsberg says Snowden was right to flee...

"The country I stayed in was a different America, a long time ago," writes Ellsberg, alluding to his own decision to stay in the country to face charges of espionage (which were eventually tossed out) in 1971 after he leaked thousands of pages of classified Defense Department documents to the New York Times and other media outlets about the purposely deceptive origins of the Vietnam War and lies told by American Presidents to support those deceptions.

"When I surrendered to arrest in Boston," he writes, "having given out my last copies of the papers the night before, I was released on personal recognizance bond the same day."

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10116
 

John Gregoire (265)
Tuesday July 9, 2013, 5:17 am
Snowden had access to at least three different, legitimate "whistleblower"
programs, none of whom had the individual "at the top" as the presiding
officer over them, and all of them Congressionally approved to protect the
whistleblower. If he were concerned about illegalities, the requisite
protection was in place; he had no need to go to the press. The releases he
has made have caused irrevocable damage, which unfortunately the public will
never know about. All three branches of the government have oversight of the
program, so I'm not sure what other more appropriate oversight could be
established. If you want more info, try:

http://www.dvidshub.net/video/294914/general-keith-alexander-afcea#.UdrAA4zD-Uk.
 
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