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Israeli-Palestinian Peace Talks: What Does Each Side Want?

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Reports say the announcement of new peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians is imminent. But what does each side want?

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Past Member (0)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 5:33 pm
Noted. Thanks.

pam w (139)
Thursday July 18, 2013, 10:37 pm
I imagine Palestinians want total eradication of their neighbors.

Past Member (0)
Friday July 19, 2013, 1:08 am
I personally cannot see Israel returning to the pre 1967 borders.I fear that the Palestinians know this and they deliberately make demands which they know will not be met and will scupper the peace talks before they have even started.

Jonathan Harper (0)
Friday July 19, 2013, 2:00 am
probably irreconcilable

Danuta W (1249)
Friday July 19, 2013, 2:20 am

Veselin Varbanov (23)
Friday July 19, 2013, 3:56 am

Past Member (0)
Friday July 19, 2013, 5:06 am
Peace should be the only reason

Ben O (171)
Friday July 19, 2013, 7:57 am
Israeli-Palestinian Peace Talks...??? -Tell me about it!

. (0)
Friday July 19, 2013, 8:55 am
Until the Palestinians's recognize Israel's right to exist (regardless of the medical care, housing they are getting), I can see Israel walking away.

Past Member (0)
Friday July 19, 2013, 9:45 am
Cant see any peace talks lasting here anyway They never do

Alexa R (319)
Friday July 19, 2013, 10:43 am
I quote: ""During the leadership meeting... most of the Palestinian factions... rejected restarting peace talks based on Kerry's proposals," Barghouti said.
According to AFP, PLO executive committee member Wasel Abu Yusef said the Palestinian leadership had "decided to form a committee to respond to Kerry's proposals."
Kerry's latest peace bid came against the backdrop of Israeli anger at new European Union guidelines for its 28 member states that will block all funding of, or dealings with, Jewish settlements in the Golan Heights, Judea, Samaria, and eastern Jerusalem.
Netanyahu on Wednesday called Kerry and warned the EU was "damaging efforts to restart the talks".
The EU office in Israel said on Thursday that Kerry, Israeli President Shimon Peres and Netanyahu all called European Commission chief Jose Manuel Barroso on Wednesday night to discuss the guidelines.
It said that the EU is ready to negotiate with Israel regarding their planned entry into force from January 1 next year.
Kerry's talks also came as two rockets fired from Hamas-controlled Gaza hit Israel without causing any casualties or damage, police said.
Hamas strongly opposes renewed peace talks between Abbas and Israel, warning that they would pose a new obstacle to reconciliation."

Birgit W (160)
Friday July 19, 2013, 12:44 pm
It is about time that Israel is attempting to respect the Palestinian people, and give them some land where they can live in peace and freedom, and allow them after more than 40 years to get their own country.
A state, where the two nations can live side by side in peace and in cooperation with neither physical or psychological walls between them.

S J (130)
Friday July 19, 2013, 1:45 pm
I hope both sides want peace, as it's the only way both shall survive on earth. If I can, I shall give them peace- a perpetual one.

Thanks Cal.

Lona G (80)
Friday July 19, 2013, 2:13 pm
As far as I can tell, both sides make demands the other side is sure to reject. Seems like they're just going through the motions.

Alexa R (319)
Friday July 19, 2013, 2:28 pm
Birgit W. (76)
Friday July 19, 2013, 12:44 pm
It is about time that Israel...


Birgit, you're wrong, totally wrong if you truly think this is the first time Israel is attempting peace talks and negotiations in order for the poor, poor Palestinians to have their own state.

This is but some of the history of negotiations:

The first negotiations over British mandate of Palestine was the San Remo agreement of 1920 where 75% of Palestine was given to the Palestinians under article 25 and it was called Transjordan Palestine (today only called Jordon).

While the land east of the Jordan river (it was Britain that decided that the dividing line between Transjordan Palestine and the Jewish State should be the Jordon river.

It was only since the UN took over the British mandate of Palestine and decided that the Jewish area east of the Jordan river should once more be divided up between the Jewish people and the Arabs in 1948. Under the resolution 181 (a recommendation of partitioning and not an injunction), it was once more Israel who signed and agreed that recommendation, but the Arabs who rejected it. After the Arabs rejected it, that resolution had no legal validity, even though Israel signed. It is like a marriage contract, if only the wife signs and the husband rejects it - the whole contract becomes void. Therefore the territories after 1948's rejection once more became disputed territories that had to be re-negotiated.

The official position of the State of Israeli is that peace ought to be negotiated on the basis of giving up some control of the disputed territories in return for a stop to the conflict and violence. Which Israel has done with just about every neighbouring country: Egypt, Jordan, Syria, etc. Israel also evacuated Gaza completely in 2005, even taking Jewish families out of the Gaza strip who have been living their for thousands and thousands of years. Gaza is 100% Judenfrei, so is Judea & Samaria (West Bank block A) 100% Judenfrei. It is only the remainder disputed areas of West Bank B & C where there are any Jewish presence. Which is very different to the situation within Israel as we've many fully integrated Arabs working and living in Israel with full citizenship and all the rights and privileges of any Israeli citizen. There and NO Arab free zones in Israel, in contrast with the Judenfrei zone A and Gaza.

Israel insists that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas be her negotiating partner for peace, not Hamas due to its continued attacks on the Israeli civilian population.

The Oslo Accords 1993 and the Camp David 2000 summit negotiations revealed the possibility of a two state system being accepted by Israeli leadership as a possible peace solution. During these negotiations 95% of the disputed territories (thus 95% of that set out by the UN in 1948) was negotiated and agreed by Israel as Arab land, but the Arab leadership refused these offers also.

They do not even want 100% of the disputed territories, they want all of Israel as well. There is no give on their side, and with antisemitic EU and increasingly US support and sympathy, why would they compromise for anything less than all of Israel?

It is not Israel who stands in the way of them having their own state, never was. It is the Arabs not wanting a Jewish state in the ME, therefore it suits them to have no state thus gaining the world's sympathy in their war against the Jewish state of Israel.

As far as the defense 'wall' is concerned, I challenge you to live next to neighbours who continuously try to rocket you and kill innocent friends and family without you defending yourself ..

Once you can do that, and only then I would consider you in a position to judge Israel and Israelis..

Lily T. (8)
Friday July 19, 2013, 3:36 pm
Alan Yorkowitz - "Until the Palestinians's recognize Israel's right to exist (regardless of the medical care, housing they are getting), I can see Israel walking away. "

Do you just make stuff up? Just to create a greater divide? Pathetic.

Marilyn K (50)
Friday July 19, 2013, 5:24 pm
The only time there will be peace is when the United Nations and the United States tell the Palestinians. Make the most of what you have. Build it up, make improvements and stop coveting what is not yours.

Lily T. (8)
Friday July 19, 2013, 8:31 pm
Too bad this isn't visual, i would certainly tell you what to covet Marilyn.

Helen Porter (39)
Friday July 19, 2013, 9:31 pm
Seems to me there are two colliding philosophies

1. I want life and goodness for all

2. I want everything for ME and if I don't get it
I will hurt THEE!

Inge B (202)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 12:47 am
YES, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE. But don´t forget LOVE.

Herbert E (10)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 1:37 am
My comment ? It would certainly be regarded as antisemitic so I'll leave it at that.

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 2:52 am

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 4:56 am
If we set expectation very, very, very low, (like lasting several weeks) maybe we would be happier with the results.

Alexa R (319)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 5:10 am
Herbert, what a shame that you seem so brazen, even proud of being called antisemitic.

Hate is NEVER justified.

If ever there was reason to hate, the Jewish people sure would more than qualify through what we've been through. Yet we've chosen to love, chosen to try and negotiate peace against all odds, time and time again...


Marija M (29)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 6:00 am
what they want? Guess.

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 7:32 am
It doesn't really matter what they want!! The only thing that matters is what the extremist Arab leadership wants. And that is most certainly NOT a Palestinian state!

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 12:33 pm
Alfred, Herbert, Birgit, Lily,
All I can say is that you might consider doing a little research into the history of Israel's many offers of a viable Palestinian neighbor state. And then research the response to each and every offer.
The Arab extremist leaders will never allow a Palestinian state because that would remove their *justification* for the annihilation of Israel.

Winn A (179)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 5:14 pm
This has gone on since the last century and unfortunately unless things get better it will continue into the next century.

fly b (26)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 7:36 pm

YOU are out of line, deliberately misconstruing what is said.
of course, that is to be expected, when you cross bigotry with self righteousness,
and the double standards of false entitlement.
It is amazing how much vitriol some people can spew out, while acting as though they are without blemish.
The knowing see it exactly for what it is.
to defend Palestinians is not a crime, and all the bla bla accusations are not going to change that, or the historical reality - no point trying to pullthe wool over the eyes of the world. Bullying, threats, fear-mongering and accusing people of anti Semitism won't work either, anymore.
Israel has violated International laws from the beginning, and continues to do so! it will not get away with this indefinitely.


Lily T. (8)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 7:43 pm
"Herbert, what a shame that you seem so brazen, even proud of being called antisemitic.

Hate is NEVER justified."

Now I have heard and seen it all.

fly b (26)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 7:57 pm
yes it is about time.
Israel plundered land and property where native populations (Arab Palestinians) had lived and owned for many centuries.
These people were dispossessed : their homes, farms, way of life. Their communities were broken apart.
In essence, they were forced off their land and displaced, with no where to go, but to leave. Those remaining were marginalized as a people.
To know the whole truth, one has to hear from the people themselves, and read from the actual accounts of the day, survivors, and current people cordoned off in "occupied " territory.

You are right, Israel needs to give land, give land BACK! AND PROPERTY. it is called " The right of return".
Israel is keeping these people down, purposely. Zionist, pro-Israel parties have great influence and control of media and what people know,
Non propaganda/falsehoods reports are readily available, and the facts on the ground. There are many sources, not mainstream T.V. or the newspapers controlled by special interests.
There is plenty of misinformation, provided at every turn from those, used to suppress what has, and is happening in that part of the world, and it is abysmal.

fly b (26)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 8:17 pm
Alan Y,
It is time for the U.S., OUR country to walk away from supplying Israel with miillions of U.S. EARNED TAX DOLLARS, every year, from every state - so that Israel can start trying to stand on it's own feet, instead of trying to bully THIS country with threats and smear campaigns about Iran, etc. to serve itself!
The U.S. GIVES BILLIONS, AND Israel expropriates land of Palestinian people, allows the building and perpetuation of this, year after year.
And, Israel offers bribes to African countries with military weapons/training - again out of self-interest - to rid itself of migrant workers and refugees, who will face retribution and worse circumstances, when returned, than they di, when they fled.
This is Care2 and I believe this sight is to help people, and the planet, not to be used to spread disinformation, malice or divide people.
I, however, am familiar with this dynamic, and I will not be silent. This might open the hearts and minds of those, that keep hearing the same distortions and selective "facts".
There is so much more, and we know it.

fly b (26)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 8:26 pm
"...and stop coveting what is not yours."

Inge B (202)
Saturday July 20, 2013, 11:10 pm
Make Peace not War

Love not Hate

Patricia Martin (19)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 1:02 am
While Palestinians on both sides of Israel continue to glorify suicide bombers, put suicide belts on on their babies (isn't that a cute picture of little Mohammad - my how they blow up so quickly), name streets after terrorists, rain down rockets on civilian areas in Israel, tell fellow Arabs/Muslims to nurse their children on hatred of the Jew - ALL Jews - still have it in their charter to NEVER recognize Israel, their maps have the area of Israel completely as "Palestine", and want to wipe the Israel off of the map, Israel should cede a centimeter.

This pure, unadulterated hatred on the part of the Arabs will never, ever bring peace. It will just provide a larger launching area.

Could Israel do better? Perhaps a little. Rolling over to commit suicide is not the answer.

John J (0)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 1:15 am
The number of complete fools that think Israel is an apartheid state shows the gullibility of people versus intelligence
Still Satans influence is of the earth so we must pray for these deluded souls

good post Cal--- brings the delusionists out in force

"those shouting it the loudest have no difficulty in personally demonizing a whole population through bigoted rhetoric. It is astounding the level of vitriol is based on distortion of fact"

and a big WELCOME to Megaphone Marg as she is affectionately known I wonder who writes her script
I Got it -- Aesop

even Hamas gets it right
Hamas interior minister, Fathi Hamad, tells Egyptian TV: “Half of Palestinians came from Egypt and the other half came from Saudi Arabia,” just as Newt Gingrich said, Palestinians are an ‘invented’ people.
Despite the proclamations of anti-Israel activists and anti-Semites the truth of the matter is that there has never been a country called ‘Palestine’, nor has there ever been a people called ‘Palestinians’. The entire myth of a Palestinian nation-hood was foisted by the PLO terrorist organization. Many of these ruthless terrorists were honest about this lie admitting that they created this ‘people’ for the express purpose of driving the Jews in the Holy Land into the sea. Yassar Arafat {Yemach Shemo Vezichron/May his name and memory be erased!} was a chief architect of the ‘Palestinian’ lies.

Before the state was declared in 1948 the word ‘Palestinian’ was used by the British as the name for Jews who lived in the British controlled land. But the term was hi-jacked, just as the terrorists hi-jacked planes and buses in order to blow them up, in order to further their jihad against the Jewish state.


Stan B (123)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 1:16 am
Cal. You pose an important question. " What does each side want? "
The answer is very simple.
Israelis want peace and security.
Palestinians want the destruction of Israel.
That just about sums it up. Everything else is detail. and why, sadly, there is still no real prospect for peace.

fly b (26)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 1:19 am
oy veh! oh dear...
" The subject tonight is hatred, baseless hatred - " SINAT HINAM".
July 17, 13

Patricia Martin (19)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 1:31 am

Making derogatory, sarcastic, imitative remarks about Jews using Yiddish, Jessica?

And there is no hatred so baseless, so base and so unwarranted as the people you side with.

Sunday July 21, 2013, 6:17 am
For i will take you from among the Nations,
gather you out of all countries, and bring you back
into your own land.

Ezekiel 36.24.

Patricia Martin (19)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 4:15 pm
As many suicide bombings as they could get away with. The only reason there are not more is that Israel's security has gotten better. It's a constant evolutionary battle.

Carol D (346)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 6:34 pm
It seems the big mouths feel the louder and more disrespectful they get and the more copy/paste they add on it makes them more reputable....NOT!!!

patrica and edw jones (190)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 8:03 pm
Time to send Marg M and her cohorts some more toilet paper - for causing this post to swim in verbal diarrhea AGAIN. Marg trots out the same old arguments. Possibly because she does not fully understand the situation between Israel and the P.A. Israelis love life - the Pallies prefer death. It is the nature of the beast. Satan's army is on the march again. Be'ahavat Yisrael, shalom. Thanks Cal.

Alan H (62)
Sunday July 21, 2013, 9:52 pm
They're all nuts over there. They do everything in the name of religion. They don't deserve peace until they destroy the extremist and religious fanatics.

Tommy S (11)
Monday July 22, 2013, 1:57 am
@megaphone Marg
quote.... I cannot list the 1376 Palestinian children who died at the hands of the State of Israel. ...Unquote

At least you remember-- the liars these people are, when the dead are dropped they climb right back onto the pallet to partake in their own funeral and when the same person is killed in many different places and times . Figures can lie and liars can figure
and for liars you cant beat the occupiers of the land rightfully belonging to Israel
but kudos to you -- An admission like this is rare from a delusionist

but Dear Marg you don't half suffer from verbal Diarrhea

Luxury and wealth abound

No childs play: NBC's False Figures for Detained Palestinian Minors

Private Palestinian investment in Israel, as of 2010, amounted to $2.5 billion in a conservative estimate, and according to a more optimistic estimate this investment possibly even amounts to $5.8 billion. For purposes of comparison, private Palestinian investment within the West Bank, as of 2011, was only $1.5 billion.

never forget
2005: There was no impediment to independent Palestinian economic activity at the time Israel removed its presence from the Gaza Strip. The Palestinian news agency Ma'an waxed ecstatic about economic opportunities, particularly the acquisition of greenhouses and agricultural equipment the Israelis were leaving behind in a $14-million deal brokered by then-World Bank President James Wolfenson.
2006: Palestinian looters destroyed the greenhouses almost immediately, and by early 2006, the greenhouses AND THE $100 MILLION IN ANNUAL EXPORTS TO EUROPE THEY HAD PRODUCED WERE GONE.

An export of 100 million dollars handed to the palestinians on a plate ---- and they destroyed the source of this wealth

2009: Israel and Egypt instituted the security blockade of Gaza, which the UN has acknowledged to be a legitimate security measure.

Not only are they liars,they are indolent-- If they worked for a living instead of sponging they would have less time to expound the hatred endemic in their islamic society... less time to rear little shahids that any normal mentally balanced person in the west would feel revulsion at.

and the Hamas Charter (sums up islaiic thinking)

Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and
international conferences, are in contradiction to the
principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

“Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will
obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it”
(The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

There is no solution for the Palestinian question except
through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international
conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.

Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious.
It needs all sincere efforts

The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished
Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose
way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah
over every inch of Palestine,

“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems
fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide
behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O
Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and
kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind
of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of
the Jews” (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).

Allah is its target, the Prophet is its model, the Koran its
constitution: Jihad is its path and death for the sake of
Allah is the loftiest of its wishes.

The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land
of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future
Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any
part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it,
should not be given up. Neither a single Arab country
nor all Arab countries, neither any king or president, nor
all the kings and presidents, neither any organization nor
all of them, be they Palestinian or Arab, possess the right
to do that. Palestine is an Islamic Waqf land consecrated
for Moslem generations until Judgement Day.

Yep a good basis for peace but trolls like yourself are easy blindsided


Tommy S (11)
Monday July 22, 2013, 2:05 am

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday July 22, 2013, 5:06 am
Palestinian Arabs are spoiled children. Arab lobby create unique conditions for them to remain "world TOP victims" as much, as The World Best Paid Refigees, passing their jobs from father to son, for unlimited number of generations.

No other nation managed to push such scam through UN. Now we are paying them billions of dollars because of their PR. In comparion, nations who are in much worse conditions get nothing, or little.

Who on Earth would want to drop BILLIONS of dollars for the sake of peace, especially, if Arab states do not have peace neither within themselves, nor with their neighbors.

Gillian M (218)
Monday July 22, 2013, 5:36 am
1. An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites.

2. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.

3. The condition of being separated from others; segregation.

Let me see, Palestinians have the same rights as ANY OTHER ISRAELI REGARDLESS OF ETHNIC ORIGIN, they have the same access to medical care, education as well as the right to vote AND to send representatives to Parliament. In fact, an Arab has been the head of state whilst the 2 more senior members were out of the country. I'm sure that the South African blacks and the American blacks would have welcomed this form of apartheid. In fact, they have more human rights than the indigenous peoples in both America and Canada.

Gillian M (218)
Monday July 22, 2013, 5:51 am
Then we look at previous negotiations, Arafat was offered some 95% of his requests at Camp David but turned them down. Why? Because he did not want peace, he wanted Israel to be Palestine. His uniform had Palestine on his arm and it was the same shape as Israel to the pre-67 borders. He had a statue of Israel with a knife through it in his office.

Then we look at Abbas, he always refused to negotiate or made ridiculous demands and claimed he wanted peace - in English. In Arabic his rhetoric was always that he would never agree to peace with Israel.

I would point out that the Palestinians have no legal claim to any land in Israel because it was rejected before Israel came into existence. The only Palestinians who have legal rights, and do, are those who were resident at the requisite time. They are still there and represent some 20% of the population. They have not been forced out as some 1 million Jews were from Muslim controlled lands in the Middle East and have no right of return nor compensation. In fact, there are only a very few Jews left anywhere other than Iran and they are leaving in droves. Nor are any Jews are allowed in Gaza. A slight difference in attitude and behaviour, totally ignored by the racists.

And a question that the anti-Semites cannot and will not answer, why the 1967 borders and not the legal 1949 borders which came into existence under international law and should still exist in this day and age? No land taken by force may be retained by the attacking country which is why Israel returned to their country in the 1950s after Egypt attacked them.

I doubt that there will be peace because too many Muslim extremists will not allow it. As I said earlier, Arafat was offered something that no other country would have offered and he spat in their faces. Go on, justify that.

And while you are attacking Israel for alleged human rights breaches, have a good look at the other Muslim controlled countries who breach the Palestinians rights living (I use that word loosely) daily yet you never comment on it or the ill treatment of their own people. Nor do you ever comment on the assistance given by Israel to any country which needs it regardless of which one it is. Nor to the people regularly helped medically by Israel. But then I'm sure such praise would choke you.

By the way, which of you has condemned Morsi and his behaviour towards both the Muslims and the Christians in Egypt? Abdesalam has been very quiet about it as has the rest of you, too busy shouting at Israel. Even the Egyptians hate Hamas, there must be a reason.

Alexander Werner (53)
Monday July 22, 2013, 6:41 am

You may safely leave all the political, racist and religious reasons Arab states have to deny Israel its right to exist, in exactly the same way, as they deny the rights to have their own states to Kurds, Bahai, Azeris and many others.

Just one point will keep Palestinian Arab denying any meaningful negotiations - the lavish subsidies, Billions of dollars, poured on them by West with a little knowledge of the taxpayers. Arab states see this nonsense and do not give much, like Saudi Arabia gives them money worth of 1 HOUR of OIL production a YEAR.

Does anybody expect Palestinian Arabs to drop these free coming billions of dollars, and for what???

Scammers do not stop game while they money is still coming.

fly b (26)
Monday July 22, 2013, 11:12 am
Birds of a feather....
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