Sunday September 29, 2013, 8:45 am
... Yeah but think of the great good it will do: it'll contribute considerably to wiping homo omni-parricidalis off Eaaarth, and thus will allow Eaarth to start to recover again ...
The main cause of Death is births. Currently about 2.4 homo omni-p. born for every one that dies.
This, too, will change. (and a LOT sooner than on 'geological time-scales')
Sunday September 29, 2013, 9:55 am
I may sound cold for saying this...but we have an existing population crisis as it stands now and will double soon...so it's not such a bad thing in my opinion. I'm more concerned 4 our forests-oceans and precious wildlife. Thanks
Sunday September 29, 2013, 1:11 pm
The Elites or whatever you want to call them stipulated global population reduction of 85-95% as of 2025 by any means necessary at the 2002 UN Conference. I agree with them in principle on this but I do believe that those at the top need to be reduced too. After all, who gets to play god?
2/3s of the world population live in China, India, SE Asia and Africa. A great majority of them live on the coasts. It's not just fossil fuels that is destroying our world it also encompasses Fracking; Oil Exploration; Mining; Factory Farms; Logging and in the third world countries the uncontrolled emissions from fossil fuel used for cooking, transportation and manufacturing. Where do you think that big dirty brown cloud that hangs over Australia every year emanates from?
It has always bothered me that people who can barely feed themselves insist on having children and keep on having children. That is irresponsible yet we in the West are expected to keep throwing money and services at this. We all do what we can to help out financially and through other agencies but it is irresponsible to a point.
Mind you the IMF and the WCB on behalf of the large Mega Corps certainly played their part in establishing the parameters that reduced developing nations socially, economically and environmentally.
They then placed them firmly and squarely under the control of the Mega Corps through globalization and outsourcing through insupportable debt and slave wages. These Mega Corps owe the world a great debt and so do the people who have profited from them. Mother Nature may just end up doing the job for them yet neglecting to cull the leaders as well.
Sunday September 29, 2013, 5:09 pm
When the Cheney apocalypse occurs (named for a climate destroyer) happens, not if...I told you so, is gonna be an incredibly hollow truth to we that already see it coming, and can't lead, forward, or get out of the way!
Sunday September 29, 2013, 6:03 pm
The only hope for man is, I hate to say it, is man.
If things continue as is, more than likely 95% of ALL life will go extinct. Including all of the higher life forms(man for one).
This is the real shame. Evolution will start again, man will rise again, but without the current technologies we now have. They will all have to be redeveloped. By this time, the Sun will be dying and the entire Earth will be, eventually, consumed by the Sun as well as all the inner planets.
Without our progression with our already established technology we will not be able to escape the Earth to colonize other, safer, planets.
I mean, why else do you think the Government is funding this current exploration as is?
Sunday September 29, 2013, 6:33 pm
How many times have these guys cried "Wolf"? Last I checked, there were seven groups of "first climate refugees", with each either being fine or having trouble which was demonstrated not to have anything at all to do with climate-change. Remember predictions from a while back of a summer where all the ice in the arctic would melt? That was this past summer. It has just gotten silly at this point. Those predicting disasters have destroyed their own credibility, and that may be the most dangerous thing of all. Those who actually listen closely and watch the climate, the people we count upon to react when danger actually shows up, have lost their early-warning system.
It's like somebody walked along the line at the airport, sprinkling cocaine on everybody's luggage to keep the dogs barking and scanners going off on innocent people until the security-personnel began to ignore them to let the airport function. There is a reason this is a classic drug-smuggling method. It's not a choice between erring on the side of caution or that of danger: There is danger both ways, so these guys need to stop not only discrediting themselves, but anybody who could actually predict a real threat.
Sunday September 29, 2013, 8:10 pm
I believe climate change has been exacerbated by human activity, but if someone else believes that it was caused by
Santa Claus that's fine. Either way we should be concentrating on mitigating the effects.
The first step is to get those births down--preferably by fair and humane means. This is necessary because evacuations and resettlement will be necessary. According to the Population Reference Bureau, the ten countries with the highest Total Fertility Rates are located in Africa. (Women in Niger have an average of 7.6 children.)
But other countries shouldn't be complacent. For example, the U.S. has a Total Fertility Rate of 1.9 BUT nearly 30% of U.S. women--and their male partners--are still completing their families with three or more children**. This hyperfertility is not helpful because the U.S. population is projected to increase by 84 million people within the next 36 years. **(source: 2012 American Community Survey)
Sunday September 29, 2013, 8:29 pm
I get so angry with governments who are stil in denial about our contribution to global warming. Our new government here in Australia are so pig-headed and stupid that they don't even believe in global warming and are doing all they can to kill the planet as quickly as possible! They have put policies into place now that mean they are going to cut down old forests and take away protectes areas and a are going to be carrying on new mining and fracking and doing al they can to stuff up the envirnoment as quickly as possible. I realise that the comments about world population is naturally true, but it is going to take a world-combined effort to do anything about it. People in poorer coutries still think they must have a lot of childre as they lose so many of then and want to insure themselves against that. It would take a lot of money to provide enough trained people teach birth control and make the standard of living higher so that the children they did have would be healthy and soso people would no longer be afraid to have only one child. Thank God for the growing number of homoesexuals and people who choose not to have a child but it will take more than those to turn back the population tide!
Sunday September 29, 2013, 9:47 pm
Global warming is an historic event - it happens from time to time. There are more people on earth than have been at any time in the past. The population is growing in leaps and bounds......so we have to slow down our breeding programme or else - Nature will do it for us - and she will not be selective. It may be too late to slow down the global warming aspect - since Humans have become greedy and self serving in the main..........so we may all have to suffer the Sword of Damocles.
Monday September 30, 2013, 3:09 am
"All of these mass extinctions were provoked by geologically-sudden global warming." Kind of defeats the intent of the article now, doesn't it. Anyway, 110 years ago it would have been devastating, but there are 7 billion today, and in another 20 years how many billions will there be?
Monday September 30, 2013, 3:58 am
I've been saying this for years - but seeing it all written in a cogent article is extremely chilling, so say the least!
Many thanks Nicky for forwarding Cal's articles - I tried to give you another star for your post but as I had just given you a star for something else the computer (quite reasonably) declined!
The climate change deniers are identical in stupidity to those who refused to believe their factories were polluting streams, rivers and the air - even with evidence aplenty they denied and denied.... not caring how many they made ill. Now they are going to be killing people - but they don't care!
Monday September 30, 2013, 7:56 am
Here's another thing to consider. They have now connected fracking and oil exploration to increased seismic activities. Seismic activities also affects volcanoes. Remember how the weather changes every time there is a major volcanic eruption? Volcanoes are the way that Mamma renews the earth. The Siberian Traps were the largest volcanic eruption in Earth history and they occurred right at the same time as the largest extinction event in Earth history. They made Mt. Pinatubo seem like a bad fart. They are centred around the siberian city of Tura and also encompass Yakutsk, Norilsk and Irkutsk. Present coverage including associated pyroclastics is just under 2 million square kilometres which is an area greater than that of Europe. They are experiencing increased active today all over the planet.
What would happen if something occurred that caused Yellowstone and Yosemite to erupt? You do realize that such an eruption could affect every major tectonic plate system including Cascadia? It's not a question of if but of when. Seismic activity happens all the time but fracking and oil exploration are exacerbating the problem. A chain reaction would make the bombs at Horishima and Nagasaki pale in jaded comparison.
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