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The Vast Reach of the Nazi Holocaust


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Cal
- 326 days ago - cbsnews.com
Seventy years ago today -- October 6, 1943 -- a group of rabbis and Jewish war veterans staged a small march in Washington to draw public attention to the Holocaust then taking place across Nazi-occupied Europe. We are still learning more about just what



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David C. (25)
Sunday October 6, 2013, 7:31 am
Yep. And the Fourth Reich is murdering more people PER YEAR (not counting e.g. deaths from Cancer, radioactive poisoning, or those inflicted on future generations, e.g. by GW, and such) than the Third Reich in all the years it existed.
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Sunday October 6, 2013, 9:24 am
Noted
 

Mike H. (220)
Sunday October 6, 2013, 11:26 am
Horrificly beyond description
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (379)
Monday October 7, 2013, 4:36 am
All this is very well known to us Jews here in Israel, and it's hard to understand why the US stood by and did nothing (like just to bomb the railroad tracks leading to the death camps so the trains couldn't go through), when we all know as a fact that everyone who counted knew exactly what was going on in Europe and of the mass extermination of the Jews there.
 

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Monday October 7, 2013, 5:33 am
noted
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Monday October 7, 2013, 6:30 am
That's because Giana there were many Nazi sympathizers in the upper echelons of British, Canadian and US society, especially the 1%. There was actual an active National Socialist American Party in America during WW2 and they were quite active. Then after the War there's programs such as Operation Paperclip wherein known Nazis and SS were given sanctuary and scientific funding. Even Mengele was allowed to actively participate in the MK Ultra program. The US knew where he was and they aided and abetted him because he served their purpose in the Cold War against the Soviets.
 

Barbara DeFratis (23)
Monday October 7, 2013, 6:59 am
This Does bring up the very good question of why the United States stood back and did nothing--my research I found--"During the 1920s and 1930s, the preponderance of Americans remained opposed to enmeshment in Europe's alliances and wars. Isolationism was solid in hinterland and small-town America in the Midwest and Great Plains states, and among Republicans. It claimed numerous sympathizers among Irish- and German-Americans. William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska, Robert M. La Follette of Wisconsin, and George W. Norris of Nebraska were among western agrarian progressives who argued fervently against involvement. Assuming an us-versus-them stance, they castigated various eastern, urban elites for their engagement in European affairs. "
 

Winn Adams (191)
Monday October 7, 2013, 7:35 am
We must NEVER forget!
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Monday October 7, 2013, 8:15 am
Let us not forget FDR not giving sanctuary to the now know movie title "Ship of Fools". Was FDR an anit-Semite, probably, although he was smart enough to know a brilliant mind in Brandis, and Frankfurter.
In 1934, Churchill spoke out against what Hitler had planned for the Jews; it fell on deaf ears. Churchill being one of the rare individuals who actually read "Mein Kanpf".
The Vatican of course did nothing; the world should be rid of Christ killers. YET, Mussolini stands out as a hero. Yes, he sold old to Hitler to preseve Italy as best as he could. Did he turn his head knowing there were thousands of visas being made to get Italian Jews out ? This man was personally against Hitler's plan for the Jews, and thousands fled.A very complicated figure in history.
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Monday October 7, 2013, 10:17 am
Hi Giana,

I found out why the Allies never bombed the tracks. They couldn't. On average, a bomb in WW2 fell about 2 miles from its target rather than the few meters of today with modern computerized targeting. That's why, to destroy the munitions factories in Dresden, they pretty much had to bomb the entire city. The nuclear bomb was originally developed to get around this problem.

Railroad tracks are very sturdy and very low to the ground so even a nearby blast wouldn't really damage them. They are also easy to repair so they would have to be made inoperable at many points to keep the line out of commission for any significant amount of time. The Allies just didn't have the planes or bombs to spare from the war-effort. As they discovered in the Italian campaign, where they tried steadily to bomb the tracks supplying Italian forces, it was easier and quicker to push the front back past the lines than to keep them out of commission by aerial bombing.
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Monday October 7, 2013, 10:38 am
The motivations of the perpetrators today may be different, but between those in the West who didn't know and the millions today who routinely buy goods made with slave labor because they don't know, there is very little difference. It really doesn't matter whether the ignorance is voluntary or involuntary. It's not that difficult to know.
 

Susan Allen (221)
Monday October 7, 2013, 10:44 am
Very interesting article. Noted and shared.
 

Carol D. (109)
Monday October 7, 2013, 11:58 am
Noted thanks
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Monday October 7, 2013, 1:17 pm
Thank you very much for this.
'So what does that say about the notion that this was just taking place in a few corners of Europe and was the result of Hitler and a few mad men?" asked Cowan.

"I think it destroys it, utterly," Megargee replied. "Really, to say that you didn't know that there were camps, what was going on in the camps that were local, that would have been impossible."

Which raises the question: Just who beyond the notorious SS were complicit in the persecution?

For most of the last 70-plus years, German women for example, were thought to be largely innocent bystanders.

But disturbing new research to be released in a book this week paints an unnerving portrait of women's participation in the Holocaust. They, too, could be brutal killers.

"It takes a certain cognitive ability to carry out, to organize this kind of mass murder on this scale," said Wendy Lower, author of "Hitler's Furies: German Women in the Nazi Killing Fields." "And women are not innocent of that. They have that cognitive ability."
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This video is difficult to watch. WATCH IT ANYWAY.

I can consider myself a Holocaust Survivor, at one remove.
If it wasn't for my Grandmother's FORESIGHT, our whole family would have been in Berlin during the Holocaust. My Grandmother made a point of getting her children OUT. Later, we got my Grandmother out. Otherwise, I and my sister would've been born in Berlin {in 1936 and 1938}. And we had a Jewish mother. {Altho we weren't observant Jews - but that of course made no difference.}
This is VERY REAL to me! I remember WELL, seeing in the basement of my grade school, some of the FIRST PICTURES, films of the Death Camps...
My Mother & Father were in the U.S., on what was supposed to be a short honeymoon trip, and my Grandmother wrote to them, "Don't, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES, come back to Germany". Hitler had just come into power..... My Grandmother had more foresight than many... [A lot of our RELATIVES died...]
So, I appropriate to myself, the status of "Holocaust Survivor" at second-hand...

And thank you, Stephen, for clearing up something that has bothered people... your explanation sounds spot-on. The horrible decisions of war-time.....

Finally, Hitler LIVED AND DIED A CATHOLIC, he was NEVER EXCOMMUNICATED altho people begged the Pope to do that. Hitler was NEVER an "Atheist" either, he called on God a LOT in his speeches and writings. He believed, and stated, that his "Destiny" to lead, came from God...
The ideological BASIS FOR THE HOLOCAUST WAS LAID, in the Medieval European Roman Catholic Church's never-ending propaganda against the Jews, as "Christ-Killers", who STILL used "the blood of Christian children" in their Passover ceremonies... there are people in Europe TO THIS DAY who believe that...
 

Kathleen R. (138)
Monday October 7, 2013, 1:37 pm
noted & read
 

jess b (24)
Monday October 7, 2013, 2:32 pm
I highly recommend the film "Scarlet and Black."

It isn't new. It is a true account of events in Nazi occupied Rome, and the endeavor of an Irish priest at the Vatican, Flaherty (forgot first name), and many others, who worked tirelessly, in secret and under constant guard and surveillance, to evacuate Jews from the area, preventing certain deportation and probable death.
The Vatican, remained "neutral" under the continual surveillance and harassment of the Nazis.
Nevertheless, the Vatican, and especially Father Flaherty, did more than many know, helping those in the Vatican, and outside, save thousands of Jews and refugees from the Nazi round ups, at great risk.

This should be remembered, as well as the millions that died, coming to the aid of Jews in Europe to fight Hitler.

Many "survived", many died, leaving behind children and families. We should never forget their courage, and invaluable contribution to the final outcome in WWII. This would not have been possible, without their brave and selfless sacrifice.

We should never forget the thousands, who died in the Holocaust, fighting Nazi Germany and it's allies.
 

Roger Garin-michaud (61)
Monday October 7, 2013, 2:33 pm
noted, thanks
 

Aurea Walker (192)
Monday October 7, 2013, 2:53 pm
Not only was Germany, insane hitler and his killers responsible for so much death and destruction, Poland and Czechoslovakia also had thousands of concentration camps! Franco was also a fraud and a coward, Spain was armed to the teeth with the Spanish civil war, the spaniards were prepared and could have fought a good fight and been one more front for hitler and his madmen to fight against. What did the GRAN PUTO, HIJO DE PUTA Franco do? Not a damn thing! Here was Franco with his vaunted Generalismo title and did squat. Even our own Bush family helped hitler, Georgie Porgie's grandfather was a banker for HITLER! Irony is that a bushie girl married a jew, of course the Lauder billions have nothing to do with it. Yeah right! Anti-semitism is on the rise worldwide and if we forget what happened it can happen again. Not only from the Islamist terrorist alone.
 

John Wesen (0)
Monday October 7, 2013, 4:25 pm
Read the Rise & Fall of the Third Reich. Shocker.
 

Robert Tomlinson (65)
Monday October 7, 2013, 6:23 pm
Thanks for sharing. We must always be on guard against hate groups......even in our own country. I am convinced that there are many who would be enthusiastic in carrying out extermination orders.
 

Jaime A. (32)
Monday October 7, 2013, 10:14 pm
Noted,
God bless the unknown heroes.!!
 

Dimitris Dallis (2)
Tuesday October 8, 2013, 1:34 am
Thank you for remind us Cal.
 

Inge Bjorkman (137)
Tuesday October 8, 2013, 2:24 am
Never forget and never do this atrocity again, live in solidarity with each other, no one is better than the other, knock down power crazy people.

Love
 

Wonder Girl (0)
Tuesday October 8, 2013, 9:32 am
Totallly unimaginable!
 

Kerrie G. (135)
Tuesday October 8, 2013, 11:11 am
Noted, thanks.
 

Malgorzata Zmuda (182)
Tuesday October 8, 2013, 12:34 pm
A historia jest nadal zakłamywana - nigdy nie istniały polskie obozy zagłady tylko niemieckie, naziści byli Niemcami, o czym świat często zapomina, "zapominają" też sami Niemcy.
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Tuesday October 8, 2013, 4:42 pm
Thanks--it's great to be reminded of these things.
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Thursday October 17, 2013, 11:28 am
Noted
 
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