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Native History: Columbus--Icon and Genocidal Maniac--Lands in New World

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This Date in Native History: On October 12, 1492, Christopher Columbus landed on the island of Guanahani, now known as the Bahamas, wreaking hell and havoc as he went.

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Past Member (0)
Monday October 14, 2013, 5:12 am
Well, no surprise there then! And some people wonder why others drift away from organised "religion" to follow their own sprituality - Can anyone name one religion that hasn't seen death, destruction and persecution committed in the name of " ------"

History is full of people who receive accolades when in fact they acted like "terrorists" most of their lives.

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Monday October 14, 2013, 8:20 am
Thank you! Recently, I saw an excellent infographic by Oatmeal that exposed the horrific crimes against humanity committed by Columbus. We need to eliminate Columbus Day and put an end to the celebration to the lies.

Joanne Dixon (38)
Monday October 14, 2013, 10:16 am

Past Member (0)
Monday October 14, 2013, 11:06 am
I dont suppose the indigenous people feel like celebrating like other countries where they were taken over and enslaved and killed

Caroline S (78)
Monday October 14, 2013, 11:16 am
Like Bryna Pizzo, I saw an excellent infographic by "Oatmeal " that exposed the horrific crimes against humanity committed by Columbus.
It's just wrong to celebrate Columbus Day }:-((

Theodore Shayne (56)
Monday October 14, 2013, 11:30 am
No surprise at all. The spirit of Columbus is alive and well today as we frack and mine and pollute our host by any means. The Puritans were no slouches either when it came to barbarity.
This is the reason I don't celebrate Columbus Day or Thanksgiving.

ewoud k (68)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:01 pm
It's an old one, but on a day like today still has the right to be read:
"Why AIM Opposes Columbus Day":

Columbus day: it's like honouring Hitler or the Kristallnacht.

Thanks Cal!

Wilde Thange (10)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:42 pm
God is just Gold without the "L". Gold is what Julius Caesar got rich from in Gaul.. and what drew the Roman to Romania... and what drew the Little Big Horn of sacrificed soldier in order for an excuse to gold from the region.
Gold made us race across the continent to Colorado and California as well. The Japanese gold taken from the Philippines disappeared after the US got hold of it. Now God is worshipped on our dollar bills.

Barbara K (60)
Monday October 14, 2013, 12:59 pm
Gee, I wonder what countries all of us would be living in now if not here? Maybe Canada, Ireland, or Scotland for me, or even France. There has been treachery all down the millleniums, and i is still happening.
We never learn. I always said that the "Indians had poor immigration laws". Wait I'm 1/4 Indian, maybe I would still be here.

Sheryl G (360)
Monday October 14, 2013, 1:48 pm
According to his writings as read in Howard Zinn’s book The People’s History of the United States, over 3 million people perished at the hands of Columbus from 1494 to 1508. By 1515 there were only 50,000 left. By 1550, there were 500.

Of all the people we could honor the USA chooses a Mass Murderer among many other horrific titles. That people still make excuses for this as a holiday always amazes me once they know of the vile person that was placed upon the calenders. Why not just also have a National day set aside for Hitler's birthday or any number is despicable humans that we've had the misfortune to be on this Earth.

In addition to putting the Natives to work as slaves in his gold mines, Columbus also sold sex slaves to his men—some as young as 9. Columbus and his men also raided villages for sex and sport.

There are also accounts of suckling infants being lifted from their mother’s breasts by Spaniards, under his command, only to be dashed headfirst into large rocks.

Yup, he certainly needs a National Holiday.......NOT!

Please sign these Petitions to END this despicable practice of giving a torturing maniac a place of honor.

Stop Columbus Day From Being Recognized As a National Holiday

Repeal Columbus Day


Nelson Baker (0)
Monday October 14, 2013, 1:55 pm
Columbus did not discover the "so called" new world. It was not new. it had been there all the time and had been visited by different people.. The Columbus holiday should be abolished.

S S (0)
Monday October 14, 2013, 2:01 pm
Thank you.

Sheryl G (360)
Monday October 14, 2013, 2:28 pm


Mike M (40)
Monday October 14, 2013, 2:33 pm
This is one 'holiday" that should be changed to asking for forgiveness from the native Americans

pam w (139)
Monday October 14, 2013, 6:10 pm
A day of shame.

Mike H (252)
Monday October 14, 2013, 8:22 pm
It is a screwed up world when Columbus day is a holiday.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Monday October 14, 2013, 8:29 pm
I put this on another News Item - a bit of the History of "Columbus Day" you might be interested in...

"Columbus Day" was instituted to make Italian immigrants {and their descendants} "feel good". Just as St. Patrick's Day was instituted to make Irish immigrants "feel good".
Lots of 19th century immigrants were Catholics - and they came from countries where "Saints' Days" were regularly celebrated in the years' Calendar, giving them a chance every so often to "make merry" and have allowable time off from work.
The mainly-Protestant U.S. had nothing like that, naturally.
The immigrant workers, who were of course being exploited, were making murmurs about cutting down working hours, not working on the weekends, and shortening the working day to "only" 10 hours or even less! Well, there was even danger of them ORGANIZING and going on STRIKE and LISTENING to all those LEFTIST Labor Agitators - [IRONY HERE!] -

It is my understanding, that "Columbus Day" for the Italians {whose immigrants then vastly outnumbered the Spanish or the Portuguese!}, and St. Pat's Day for the Irish, were, in collaboration with the politically-powerful Catholic Church in places like New York and Boston, a bright idea to keep the workers quiet, by giving them "recognition" of their "national heroes"...
[Yes, I KNOW Columbus wasn't a Catholic "Saint" - but the Catholics were PROUD to acknowledge him AS A CATHOLIC, back in those days...]

Of course, the whole idea of celebrating "Columbus Day" as well as "Thanksgiving" is a total farce... but that is the history of the "Day" in this country...

{Happily, the workers went on strike ANYway, Catholics and Protestants together, that's how we got Unions and the 8-hour-day - but now, thanks to GOP rules and Union-busting, that's becoming a thing of the past, that will have to be fought for all over again...}

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Monday October 14, 2013, 8:50 pm
Fascinating article. I don't live in the States but it was interesting reading about this holiday that many raise fundamental questions about.

reft h (66)
Monday October 14, 2013, 9:51 pm
For sure, Columbus is not celebrated by all; and the Vikings had apparently landed on North American soil many years before Columbus, so he did not "discover" North America, but probably already knew about it from chatting with the sailors in the pubs. At least that's how I envision it :)

Sue Clayton (8)
Monday October 14, 2013, 11:46 pm
Hard to understand WHY this person has been celebrated all these years. In Australia, where I live, the dominant society celebrate "Australia Day" which marks the day Australia was "discovered". The Indigenous People of this country turned it around and every year celebrate "SURVIVAL DAY". It's so much nicer and a family oriented day with live entertainment, stalls etc. NO alcohol permitted and everyone goes home around 5-6pm. The Dominant society BEGIN their celebrations during the afternoon, by getting drunk then going into the cities to watch the fireworks displays. Who do you think has the best time?

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 12:23 am
Apparently, Northern European Cod Fishermen had "discovered" North America, too, just by following ocean currents to where the fish were - but they KEPT IT A SECRET, and didn't make any maps! because, they didn't want any RIVALS to know about where the fish were... they kept it in their families!

So, June, you may well be righter than people think...! :-D

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 12:43 am
Besides the Vikings and the Cod and Herring Fishers, others who made it to our shores may have been Irish monk St. Brendan {who described, apparently, icebergs, as "huge floating glass palaces", and a seacoast volcanic eruption as "giants throwing huge rocks" - so his journey sounded like a "fairy tale" and was long thought to be fictional}.
A fascinating possibility, is the PHOENICIANS, who apparently had COPPER MINES on the North American mainland... a lot more copper was excavated in ancient mines found on the continent, than ever appeared in ARTIFACTS on this continent... so even trade with the East is a possibility....
Then there are the sculptures in South America, that represent ALL THE DIFFERENT RACES in their facial features... not just Native American Indians!

A lot of these people left no written records {that we know of}, or their records were destroyed over time, or they had REASONS for keeping TRADE SECRETS, that died when the trade ended. We would know a lot less about the Vikings, for example, if SOME of their Oral Tradition Sagas had not eventually been written down...

Archeologists and Anthropologists are beginning to realize, that WATER, even in wide stretches, was not necessarily a "barrier" but could also be a HIGHWAY - the beautiful characterization in the epic Beowulf, of the Ocean as the" Whale-Path" {probably an exact observation of the exact routes taken by migrating Whales...}. Currents in the Oceans could further a journey, could be taken advantage of... which many "early people" who were great observers of Nature, had figured out... that's how they settled the World in the first place...

Ganaisha Calvin (7)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 1:16 am
thanks for sharing

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 1:32 am
What relay annoys me is when I read that Christopher Columbus discovered America when he did nothing of the kind there is now evidence that the Vikings were there long before him.When he landed in America he stated that he was welcomed by the natives who were friendly.If so the land was already populated by the local tribes.I once attended a lecture on this subject where the speaker spouted this rubbish.A the end of the lecture I questioned him on this statement and he was clearly annoyed with me.However I pressed him regarding the presence of the Indians who were their before Columbus and the evidence that so were the Vikings.He became agitated and called me a Marxist.I then had the pleasure of informing him that Karl Marx was not alive at that time until centuries later. So such a statement would have meant nothing to anyone at the time.Much to the amusement of the audience.

Karen Chestney (112)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 2:29 am
Thank-you for this informative article. There were some historical facts I was unaware of. Too many horrible acts have been committed in the name of Christianity. Unfortunately......this is still happening.

John Coleman (18)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 6:33 am
Perhaps a review of the practices of the Incas, Aztecs, and Caribs for example with their human sacrifices, enslaving other tribes, and cannibalism when painting a false picture of the locals at the time of Columbus's arrival is warranted. BTW, Karen Cheshney, no one has a record for killing/enslaving/abuse/aggressive taking of lands of others that surpasses the alleged "religion of peace" (aka "cult of submission") that claims to be a "religion" and is still active and a direct threat to YOU! The usual 'Columbus Day" hype from the "progressives" that conveniently overlook a lot of facts as usual. .

Sheryl G (360)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 6:57 am
Not hype John fact, although many are walking around in this Country spouting misinformation as fact when it is not so they don't know fact from fiction anymore. The acts of Christopher Columbus is based on facts John taken from sources that were documented back in the day and stored in libaries.

So from your logic, because there were human sacrifices done by certain groups already in SOUTH AMERICA and the CARIBBEAN, that it was acceptable what Columbus did? And with that same logic we should, here in NORTH AMERICA or in particular the USA, therefore still honor his name? Which means that our nation are a people that honor all sorts of despicable actions, no matter where they occur, from war, torture, sacrifices, slavery, murder........

Now that I think of it, with our own history of slavery, Iraq, Viet Nam, drones, cities and rural towns gutted as sacrifice zones, fracking, mountaintop are correct John, as a Nation, the USA, we do seem to have a desire to honor that which is despicable and destructive.

What is being said here John, is why can't we, as a Nation, start choosing a better path. I love how you place the term "progressive" in here like it's some "bad" term to shake off. Well that is the whole point of progress is to learn from one's past mistakes and to progress to a better place in one's individual self as well as a whole Nation.

Sheryl G (360)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 7:01 am
Thank you BMutiny for your historical background that occured in North America and pertained to the subject at hand and for others thoughtfully placed comments. Together, we can rid ourselves of honoring murderers and slavers.

pam w (139)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 12:36 pm
AND...don't forget the people who crossed land bridges into what is now called North America! They spread south.

Anyone who's been in Southern Mexico and seen art made by Olmec people would HAVE to believe they'd seen Africans! (After all, Thor Heyerdahl proved you could sail from Africa to South America on a reed boat!)

Oh--and don't forget that pottery from what is now Japan was found in Ecuador....right where the currents would drop you off, if you were sailing in an ancient boat!


Peta Clarke (30)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 5:58 pm
Thank you for this interesting article. Great read Columbus like all other so called hero's of this era came looking for wealth and to rape, pillage and plunder. I totally agree with Dandelion. They were not men of God they were men of power and greed.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 15, 2013, 8:27 pm
"Columbus’ crimes against humanity are no longer being accepted everywhere. Indigenous people throughout the Americas are now calling for the recognition of the truth.

In Caracas in 2004, according to the Venezuela Analysis News, “a group of young men and women tore down the statue of the 15th century explorer during this national holiday that was renamed the Day of Indigenous Resistance.”

GOOD FOR THEM! And this is happening all over, and say...LET IT HAPPEN!

Thanks Cal.


divergent revolution (309)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 9:10 am
read this in John Wayne's voice
"happy columbus day Pilgrims, may you rape and pillage with great ease"

let it be a sailors holiday,we don't have any!
ty Cal

Angelene B (148)
Wednesday October 16, 2013, 10:51 pm
Christopher Columbus was one of the most vile people to ever walk the earth.

Robert Hardy (68)
Thursday October 17, 2013, 10:51 pm
You know, a real discussion should be had on this topic. History records many terrible things in all cultures and Americans of course are now being told how horrible Columbus was. But like most peoples, Native Americans did some pretty ugly things also, just check out the Maya, as did Africans and Asians and just about every variation of homo sapien that has ever existed. We are quick to bend our bias to those we favor and ignore the fact that human beings can be, and are still, very ugly creatures. So be careful which way you point that historical finger... it may be pointed at a mirror.

Sheryl G (360)
Friday October 18, 2013, 5:27 am
So it makes it right about Columbus that others did mean things too?

Do we have a FEDERAL Holiday honoring them? Or are you suggesting we should.
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