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HERE WE GO AGAIN: Nevada Student Shoots Teacher Dead; Wounds Two Before Killing Self

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: gun control, killing, guns and more guns, lies, news, crime, ethics, usa )

- 1673 days ago -
- A 12-year-old student armed with a handgun shot and killed a math teacher and critically wounded two classmates before killing himself at his Nevada middle school on Monday...

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David B (28)
Monday October 21, 2013, 5:37 pm
Will Americans ever wake up to the fact that the 2nd amendment is outdated and so are US gun laws... Look at the 'real' world, gun crimes are much lower than the USA.

Rose Becke (141)
Monday October 21, 2013, 5:55 pm
I agree with David B

Jason S (50)
Monday October 21, 2013, 7:24 pm
Sad, thanks

Cathe romano (52)
Monday October 21, 2013, 11:14 pm
When these occurrence happen, it eventually surfaces that student (ex-employee, irate patient) has felt or been slighted for some reason. Often the purported assailant, has been bullied. This does not in any way excuse the crime. However, it should make us think about how we treat and speak to others. Something as simple as treating others the way you would want to be treated. Common manners.
I too agree with David B.. Our 2nd amendment as well as our gun laws are antiquated. But with many of our Senators, and Representatives, owned and operated by the NRA it will take a lot of work to change these laws.

Sheila D (194)
Monday October 21, 2013, 11:29 pm
According to the NRA and its cronies, guns belong in schools, in the hands of minors...wonder what spin they'llput on this one??

Athena F (131)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 2:17 am
So very sad. :(

We need to help this situation somehow. I'm so tired of how, when someone makes a suggestion as to lessen these incidents, there are always people saying "no, don't bother doing that, it won't fix every incident." Like any law about anything at all in the world is going to cover every single instance of lawbreaking. That's not how humans work. You just have to make things the best you can. Nothing is ever perfect.

They say: Guns aren't the problem. It's people. Take away the guns, there are still knives. There are still fists, etc." Or they say "Don't bother making better standards to keep guns from mentally ill people, there will always be more mentally ill people you don't know about yet" On and on and on. It's truly, truly sick and wrong.

To this I say: "Yeah? Well how about doing SOMETHING that could fix SOME incidents. Some is better than none." This may not seem like a big enough problem to "mess with" to them, but it's way too big a problem to ignore when it's your loved one or friend who is the one shot.

While I realize it's not the solution to everything, (there's so much that could be change to affect things in little ways, which would add up) this might be one of many things that could help.:

My heart goes out to these people who have suffered directly or indirectly from gun violence. I hope someday we live in a world where this isn't such a common occurrence that people have actually become numb and unwilling to change because of it.

Nimue Michelle Pendragon Gaze (339)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 2:18 am
Ditto, David B.

Tuesday October 22, 2013, 3:13 am
To David B. and to any others who think our second amendment is outdated: I tell you the problem is the people not the guns. Example...In Arizona an average citizen with a concealed had-gun thwarted would could have been a mass shooting by killing the bad person attempting to use a firearm in an evil way. Now consider the millions Jews, Poles, and others who was not allowed to bear arms and had many other freedoms taken, needless to say you know what happened; Well, we do not want this to happen here, do we? Also we do not want to be killed by a criminal, do we? I say no more...The second amendment stands, and so does the rest of our freedoms under attack. Some of you may want to be as sheep, being led to the slaughter, but not all of us feel the same way you do!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 3:55 am
When can such tragedy never take place again?

Neill A (667)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 4:28 am
So sad to read this. Thank you for sharing.

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 4:40 am
Will Americans ever wake up to the fact that the 2nd amendment is outdated and so are US gun laws... Look at the 'real' world, gun crimes are much lower than the USA david

Gloria picchetti (304)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 5:07 am
If guns don't kill people but people kill people why didn't the boy kill three people with his bare hands? Because it was more convenient and easy to use his parents gun.

Alexandra Rodda (180)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 5:24 am
David B. is right. Guns were supposed to keep the government from oppressing people.
I wonder how they would stand up to bombs and rockets, as well as possible weapons of mass destruction? Not very well, I should think and therefore it is good that the government seems to show no interest in doing that. Handguns are also not very good at preventing the government from trying to sabotage the ACA and then closing the government and threatening to default on the national debt.
Yes, the 2nd amendment is outdated. It would have worked well at the time, should the government of the time decided to turn into a dictatorial monarchy like.the British were at the time.

Many Feathers (139)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 5:35 am
terrible news

. (0)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 6:22 am
I wonder what conditions lead him to commit such an action. Were there statin drugs involved as there are in so many other cases of this nature?

Tuesday October 22, 2013, 7:14 am
Noted - I agree with David, too!!!

Barbara Smith (14)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 7:40 am
Same again, when will they ever learn.

Cyrille D (137)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 7:56 am
...what else is new in America ? I'm not going to say what I already said for past shootings. Repeating oneself needlessly is tiring, really. I'm just very sorry for whoever lost a loved one.

Franshisca Dearmas (89)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 7:57 am
Very sad news.. TY for sharing Cal

Arielle S (313)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 8:04 am
If everyone prayed to all the other amendments as much as they do to the 2nd, we'd all be better off. This entire gotta-have-guns things is past ridiculous...besides, nobody is trying to take away ALL the guns - we'd just like a few rules and regulations. If you have a right to have guns, Edward, I also have a right to expect to not be shot when I go to a school or a movie. My rights are every bit as important as your rights.

Gail Ring (89)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 8:07 am
it is terrible.. something drastically needs to change here


jan b (5)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 8:11 am
Food for thought-----a women who said she was from a southern family who kept guns and keep guns today believe in the 2nd Amendment. They keep the weapons under lock and key and the bullets separate under lock and key just like "responsible" gun owners should.

That being the case.....what good are they hidden away all the time ? If someone breaks in you have to tell them to wait a minute til you find the keys ? Then one has to really believe kids won't EVER know where the keys are hidden (unless you keep them around your neck 24/7 ).

The Supreme Court ruled " It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose". District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008),


Theodore Shayne (56)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 10:15 am

James Maynard (84)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 1:10 pm
This is not going to change until we get enough
intelligent, progressive people in the Congress
who aren't afraid of the NRA.

. (0)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 1:59 pm
"Why are you laughing at me?" A telling, sad question as to why a 12 year old did this.

Maria S (95)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 2:01 pm
Sadly noted. Thanks Cal!

ewoud k (68)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 2:14 pm
And of course, as every single time before, this is in no way a reason to -even consider to- try to get firearms out of society.

No, some NRA-adept will try to make it clear by some simple logic that if all the children in this school and all the teachers would have had a loaded firearm in their pocket this wouldn't have happened.


But without the first gun, this surely wouldn't have happened.

Sad that there still are people who put firearms above people's lives.

David C (131)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 2:58 pm

not sure about the motivation, but when I was 12 we would yell, curse, maybe throw rocks and maybe fight a little....guns??? No way!!! (knives, no way, too)

What is happening to our country.....can't say world, but guns and violence have become a solution too many places around the globe....

Thomas P (280)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 4:28 pm
Sadly noted...thanks Cal. Edward W...if the 2nd amendment is somewhat outdated, it is the technology of the gun manufacturers that has made that happen. I'm pretty sure that 20, 30, and 100 round ammunition clips were never imagined by the founding fathers. But even if they had been, it would help to explain why the term "well regulated" is part of the 2nd amendment, albeit the part that the NRA and those that argue against gun control rarely seem to remember or mention. Thanks to Janice B for pointing out that the US Supreme Court has determined that the 2nd amendment is not limitless. All of us should keep that in mind, especially those that continue to argue that a country with over 300 million guns should not allow States to have controls in place to try and monitor those guns and the people that own them. I'm thankful that my state, New York, is not one of those states, and happy that it has the strictest gun laws of any State in the country. James M...absolutely right!

Rhonda W (376)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 5:21 pm
when is the killing going to stop? Noted

Past Member (0)
Wednesday October 23, 2013, 2:34 pm
Wow hard to believe that the country has over 300million guns Not much hope of the killing stopping then i would say

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Monday July 11, 2016, 12:26 am
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