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US-Israel Rift Over Iran Nukes Now in the Open

World  (tags: world, politics, news, iran, israel, 'HUMANRIGHTS!', 'CIVILLIBERTIES!' )

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What had been speculated before is now very public -- the United States and Israel differ on how to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions.

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Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 6:21 am
All i know is i would not trust the Arabs anymore than i could throw them

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Winn A (179)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 6:56 am
I wouldn't trust Iran or what they say now or in the future.

Stephen Brian (23)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 8:52 am
Has anybody noticed how often this sort of thing happens when a new U.S. Secretary of State (who is formally in charge of foreign affairs and negotiation on behalf of the administration) takes office? Iranians are for the most part not Arabs, but I still l wouldn't trust their government at this point.

Mike M (40)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 11:15 am
I do not trust them. But give them something small to take away from the table but be prepared for what they really want. Total take over and governance of this planet

Roger G (154)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 12:25 pm
noted, thanks

Birgit W (160)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 1:28 pm

Colleen L (3)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 9:27 pm
Sad that we can't trust others. Even when they are seated high in their positions. PEACE is all I can keep hoping for. Thanks Cal

Lloyd H (46)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 9:51 pm
Personally I have a big, really big, with the absolute hypocrisy of Netanyahu and the Israeli government. Israel is essential a liar leading, for some reason I do not fathom, Europe and the US by the nose over Iran. Be afraid, be very afraid of Iran becoming what Israel already is, a Nation With An Illegal Nuclear Weapons Arsenal. Israel still refuses to admit what every one knows that they were illegally given a Nuclear Weapons program by the US, Israel Has Never Signed On To A Single Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and at last count they have a minimum of 200 nuclear warheads. And they are as accountable under International Law as North Korea is. Israel is the only Middle Eastern Nation with Nuclear Weapons, that it refuses to openly admit it has, refuses to openly tell how it got the program and has absolutely no intention of giving up it position as the Sole Nuclear Power of the Middle East. And it is far past time to stop the stupid assumption that what is good for the US and Israel are the same thing.

Dogan Ozkan (5)
Tuesday November 19, 2013, 10:43 pm

Madhuri Pillai (22)
Wednesday November 20, 2013, 3:55 am

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday November 20, 2013, 6:23 am
Hi Lloyd,

You missed some central points.
First, Iran has a decades-long history of aggression with impunity. It has carried on a campaign against Israel through proxies in Lebanon for quite some time without facing so much as sanctions over that.
Second, Iran's elected leaders are first vetted by a theocratic regime which genuinely believes that God has commanded it to do whatever it does..

The reason these are so important is that the first makes it nearly impossible to issue a credible threat or retaliation to them while the second suggests that no threat could possibly be severe enough to deter them. These are two of the three pillars of deterrence, the third being clear expression of the threat, which the U.S., at least, cannot do after failing to intervene in Syria when it declared that its stated "red line" was crossed. Essentially, for multiple reasons, Iran cannot be deterred from using a nuclear weapon should it acquire one.

Also,the first indication that Israel sought nuclear weapons came from its not having signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Not having signed that, Israel is fully legally permitted to develop its own nuclear weapons. Iran, on the other hand, was the first country to benefit from the technical assistance offered to signatories which were not already nuclear powers, and remains a party to the NNPT. Remember that the bulk of international law is contract-law, and you are not bound by a contract that you never signed.

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Thursday November 21, 2013, 2:59 am

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 21, 2013, 3:48 pm
Obama is clueless while dealing with the master cheats of Iran, and Netaniyahu knows them inside out.

This picture resembles a teenager going crazy after "get rich fast" scam and not listening to his father.
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