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The Budget Deal Is a Big Win for the Pentagon


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: military, obama, politics, usa, new budget, congress )

Cal
- 372 days ago - motherjones.com
The Pentagon has once more gotten a reprieve from the budget ax: Under Murray and Ryan's congressional budget deal, the Pentagon will get an additional $32 billion, or 4.4 percent, in 2014, leaving its base budget at a higher level than in 2005 and 2006.



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lee e. (114)
Friday December 13, 2013, 6:28 am
This deal stinks in every way - the GOP is delighted - no tax raise for the rich, as well as these military expenses - we don't change - it's horrible - I'm glad I'm old and on the way out! Just feel sorry for my grandchildren they should move to Scandinavia!
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Friday December 13, 2013, 9:08 am
What's in it for the Little People? More of the same! Now bend over just a little further.
 

Arielle S. (317)
Friday December 13, 2013, 10:33 am
Well, gee, there's a huge surprise - the Pentagon gets more millions and those in need get less than they had before. I think when Shakespeare said, "Kill all the lawyers first" he had it wrong... the lawyers could be second right after the politicians.
 

Diane O. (167)
Friday December 13, 2013, 2:44 pm
It's not a win at all for the Pentagon....at best it is a partial reprieve from sequestration cuts...big difference
 

Birgit W. (152)
Friday December 13, 2013, 3:09 pm
Lee says it all. Thank you.
 

Diane O. (167)
Friday December 13, 2013, 3:14 pm
Lee doesn't appear to understand that tax hikes on the rich, our employers, impacts the job market. Have any of you ever been hired by a poor person? Redistributive wealth destroys countries...in the most obvious ways.

 

Arielle S. (317)
Friday December 13, 2013, 3:59 pm
Diane doesn't seem to understand that the rich people keep all their money - usually in off shore accounts. It is most often the *middle* class that creates jobs but the middle class keeps shrinking and shrinking and shrinking...
 

Past Member (0)
Friday December 13, 2013, 7:06 pm
Isn't this a huge surprise! Hah!

Thanks Cal, and well said Lee and Ariel.
 

Scott haakon (4)
Friday December 13, 2013, 10:55 pm
Stop looking at the defense budget as a bad thing. What we are actually talking about are good paying jobs. That's right in a time of low pay the defense industry is one where the wages are good and the benefits too. No politician can justify losing those jobs from their district.
We have to think deeper. In the last 60 years too much legislation came about not clearly thought out. The results we are feeling today. In a consumer economy everything except the stock market is based on consumption. Low consumption = few good paying jobs.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 12:59 am
Of course, once they start to cut, then they realize how many people are impacted.
 

Alfred Donovan (46)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 1:47 am
Once again we see the military getting the biggest slice of the budget.Incidentally if the guy in the photograph gets any more brass round his neck he will need a wheelbarrow to carry it around with him.
 

Diane O. (167)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 3:17 am
No, all rich people do not have offshore accounts. That comment is simply false. Because Obama has delivered tax hikes, ACA penalties and soaring debt many businesses stopped hiring and growing their businesses. Large corporations are holding large amounts of money until they can be certain that more tax hikes aren't put in place. This is Obama's economy. He built it. He owns it. He can no longer blame anyone for his own incompetence. Our foreign affairs situation is in shambles due to incompetence and the ACA is a train wreck.

Redistributive wealth is what the ACA is all about and as you are witnessing....Americans want no part of it.

So what has Obama accomplished in 5 years? Complete chaos! I'll be happy when the Obama's vacate the White House....leaving behind a great deal of damage that will take years to correct.
 

John Gregoire (262)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 5:55 am
Previous bad manners reported. Nice headline with some truth BUT military retirement was hit hard and the earning power of future and all retirees under 62 slashed. This will not bode well for future recruitment nor is it a good deal or a thank you for those that gave the government their best 20 to 30 years! Disgusting.
 

Diane O. (167)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 6:50 am
Disgusting is a great word to describe what is going on today, John. This administration has put our country at risk for attack. Only when millions of Americans have lost their lives will the liberals wake up. Our country will be hard pressed at some point to have people enlist and the draft will be revisited.

Sad times for America IMO.
 

Patsy Olive (0)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 11:52 am
Noted.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 12:03 pm
Really, the Defense Department's budget woes are simply lessened, not eliminated. A major factor driving CBO's estimate is the Department of Defense spending on people, which is likely to be substantially higher than current Pentagon projections. While the president's budget incorporates several cost-saving measures into its calculations, including TRCIARE fee adjustments, CBO assumes Congress will not approve these changes. In fact, CBO found that the Pentagon underestimates its future costs in real terms, on average, by about $19 billion per year between 2014 and 2018, due in part to Congress' unwillingness to go along with proposed changes to select health care fees. The reality is, for all its promise, the Ryan-Murray budget agreement still only addresses less than 7 percent of the defense sequester. Of course, Obama could always reduce the use of drones, unless there is really a need to attach wedding parties.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 1:44 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Cal.
Yeah, this stinks to high heaven. Cut SNAP and threaten Social Security, but by all means let's keep funding the warmongers. Did Diane even read the article?
Our tax dollars are being spent: $32.6 BILLION--Planes & Helicopters, $10.4 BILLION--Guided Missiles, $5.2 BILLION--Combat/Assault Vehicles, $3.9 BILLION--Amphibious Assault Ships, $2.2 BILLION--Unmanned Aircraft & Drones, $1 BILLION--Bombs, $547 MILLION--Land Mines, $16 MILLION--Badges & Insignia, $85 MILLION--Tobacco Products.....just some of what is listed.

The whole point of the sequestration was to de-fund the Pentagon, because it supposedly couldn't be done any other way. We were supposed to be having Congress sponsor bills to specifically fund SNAP and other important programs, while keeping the sequestration for Pentagon funding. But, the military-corporate-industrial complex obviously wasn't going to have any of that. Yes, America is definitely broken....but this Empire is going to collapse within itself if this passes without taxing the wealthiest and raising the minimum wage. I do not shed one tear for the wealthy. They deserve no pity. They deserve no tax breaks. They are reaping millions of dollars and not even paying minimum wage in many cases. Their workers have to rely on food stamps and other programs just to eat and live, while they consider buying another plane or yacht.
Gee, golly, gosh....should they spent $1 million on Xmas this year? Or, should they scale it back to $900,000?

This country has been "set up" to have defense projects within many congressional districts.....that have become "too important" and heavy with jobs to be able to slash. They spend millions to support members of Congress in elections to keep those corporations intact. We have created a monster, and it's going to eat up all of us taxpayers in the 99%. Anyone who believes "this is a good thing" is either raking in the ca$h, or married to someone raking in the ca$h, OR brainwashed with fearmongering....or just delusional. People are finally catching on to what our gov't thinks is important.....and it isn't us. Even though they're perfectly happy to take our tax dollars and waste them on missiles, drones, bombs, land mines, tobacco products...etc.
*Star to lee for typing what most of us are thinking. Also flagged the spam.
 

Elle J. (276)
Saturday December 14, 2013, 2:59 pm
To Diane D. Since you have such an opinion of this administration, let me ask you this: WHAT HAS THE REPUBLICAN/TEA PARTY DONE FOR THIS COUNTRY??? All they have done is obstruct progress. When they shut down the government, it costs the tax payers 25 billion dollars...yes they got paid for sitting on their lazy behinds. You have the audacity to talk about this administration when the fault doesn't belong there. There are people who will go hungry because of the elimination of food stamps and the non extension of unemployed benefits. IThe president put forth a jobs bill and the GOP rejected it. WHERE IS THE JOBS BILL FROM THE GOP? People that are uninformed or misinformed like you really concern me. I sincerely hope that the 99% who have been forgotten will vote these self centered, hearlless people out of office in November of 2014.
 

Diane O. (167)
Sunday December 15, 2013, 8:18 am
The American people in 2010 voted to replace the spending democrats with the no spending republicans. The voters went to the polls and created gridlock. It worked. The GOP isn't responsible for creating jobs, Elle, but then you should know that. The government doesn't create jobs the private sector creates jobs and they have been hit with a tax hike and a penalty. 53% of Americans work for small businesses and employers have cut hours from full time status to part time status. This is the direct result of the democrats who hold the majority in the Senate.

You may want to brush up on your research so that you can be more informed.

Why was the government shut down? The democrats have tried to walk away from it but it was their idea.
 

Elle J. (276)
Monday December 16, 2013, 12:37 am
To Diane O. The American people were hoodwinked in 2010 by the GOP/Tea Party. Since this president took office the debt has actually been reduced. The wealthy people are sitting on their money and not investing it in job creation. When people do not spend money, the economy cannot move forward. Part of my job is research for this administration., to I am informed. The shutdown was not due to the democrats but it was due to the tea party and their influences on the GOP. The Democrats did not support the government shutdown. Seriously?? Are you telling me that corporations got a tax hike? Send me a link to that effect. Large corporations make billions and pay 0 taxes....just like Exxon and GE for example. Let's not forget the subsidies for the factory farms. The GOP has no put forth one constructive bill since they were elected. Check the congress' approval rating with the American people. I am informed...that is my job. When the president put forth a jobs' bill to rebuild roads, bridges, schools and create jobs...the GOP rejected it. A word of advice albeit unsolicited, stop watching Fox News.....By the way, there will be some big changes in the election of 2014. I would suggest you get ready.
 

Diane O. (167)
Monday December 16, 2013, 2:55 pm
You are simply speculating. I do it myself. The American people were hoodwinked in 2008. A certified lying president was their gift. We have a divided Congress. We also have a corrupt and incompetent president.

May I suggest that you spend too much time watching biased left wing double talk. Neither you nor I will make a difference in the outcome of the 2014 election but the millions of American people will just like they did in a tsunami vote to remove elected democrats out of their seats... two years after Obama was elected.

Believe me I'm ready for strong leadership, a return of the salad days when Americans were working and didn't require massive food stamps and are able to support their families. And now...millions of Americans who believed the lies Obama told over and over again have lost their private health insurance. The republicans and Fox News warned Americans that the ACA was their biggest nightmare. They were right.

So, yes, I'm ready for big change and based on Obama's poll numbers I'm not alone.
 

Avril Lomas (0)
Wednesday December 18, 2013, 1:02 pm
Take a good look at the grossly bloated Pentagon budget. Read Jan, 14. Mother Jones ,for details .the facts ,just the facts.
eg. F-35.(one plane) $137 MILLION.!,Canot fly at night, Pilots have problems with cockpit visibility,Take off May have to be postponed at temps of 60f.or below.
Lockheed Martin spent $159 mill. on lobbying!!(tells it all hey!)
 

Sharon F. (0)
Thursday January 30, 2014, 8:41 am
Visit www.motherjones.com/pentagon

Then speak frankly to your Congresspeople about the article. Their contact info is avail free, at your public library. The military is in our face everywhere. Last week I donated blood and their were small balls (labeled Natl Guard) on the table to squeeze (to help get the blood flowing). I spoke frankly to the supervisor; she said she would remove them.
 
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