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When Did Mass Shootings Become So Frighteningly Mundane in America?

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Isla Vista, Seattle, Las Vegas, now Troutdale. Summer 2014 already has violence everywhere.

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Janis K (127)
Saturday June 14, 2014, 3:06 pm
Very sad state of affairs in this country, we have more guns than any other country.

Barry AWAY T (932)
Saturday June 14, 2014, 4:32 pm
I have bad news and good news.

The bad news is that it is going to get a lot worse.

The good news ... oh, sorry, there is no good news. We went from one mass shooting say in a year to a couple then a few and now it's almost a daily event. That will escalate too and at some point there will be multiples most days or every day. And as we have seen it isn't just in America.

And it isn't just about gun control or the lack of it, though the lack of it makes it easier (doesn't help).

Eventually, the public will panic and the clamor will get so loud that more gun control will come to America too. But t won’t help or won’t help much, for 2 reasons ne, there are so many guns and so much ammo and so many fast-loading magazines and so on already out there that it would take decades for that to impact.

The other reason has to do with why these events are really happening. Note that we have had some recently in Canada and we’ve seen them pretty much all over the world.

Sometimes they seem to be about racism, sometimes about religion; sometimes there are no apparent reasons at all. But what is really happening here is a complete and total disconnect. People increasingly tend to feel isolated and alone. They have the feeling that nobody cares about anybody else and by and large they are right. “We” generally don’t want to take care of the ill, the elderly, the poor, people who have fallen on hard times, etc. They are on their own. “People need to stand on their own two feet and not expect the government (or anybody else) to come running to help them” is what we hear. It is the American way, it is the result of individualism over community, it is the end result of super-capitalism and America has now exported that to most of the world (even China, lol).

And when people feel like they are no longer a part of anything that nobody gives a flying leap, that they are on their own so deal with it, it makes people “crazy”. It makes them angry. It makes them feel worthless and empty. Most people are able to cope with that, partly because most people have at least some supports (family, for example) but as the disconnect accelerates as it inevitably will (We are, after all, racing towards the end game), more and more people will lose the perspective that keeps them from becoming completely unhinged and the epidemic of random, senseless violence will escalate.
The only way out of that quandary is to de5tr0y the institutions, beliefs and foundations which support and promote as a good thing that kind of isolation.

No community – local or global, small or large – can survive individualism which takes priority over community, a culture in which the 1% feel entitles to … well, everything without restraint (they tell us to scale back our expectations while they expand and increased their own) and a society in which about half the population is convinced that it is the best way to run things.

Frightened yet? Good, we all need to be.


Sheri Schongold (7)
Saturday June 14, 2014, 6:09 pm
It has become mundane and will become more so because we are letting the NRA and their comrades run the show and so guns are everywhere for anyone who wants them. Maybe guns don't kill and people do, but if the people didn't have the guns, maybe the killing would at least slow down. We ought to make a section of the country a home for only the NRA and their minions and maybe we could get some peace.

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday June 14, 2014, 6:53 pm
It's the media that's making them seem "mundane." Violence has permeated our society so badly that it's made to seem "normal." Great comment by Barry (above).
It is ridiculous to equate gun violence with any other form of violence. You simply can't do the same damage with any other weapon. Banning the multiple clips would go a long way towards stopping many of these deaths, but Congress will have none of it. I am beyond disgust.

Beth Nipper (70)
Saturday June 14, 2014, 10:27 pm

Past Member (0)
Sunday June 15, 2014, 5:21 pm
Stories like this make me grateful that guns are supposed to be banned in Britain but then again we have had enough mass shootings lately. It is terrifying.

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Monday June 16, 2014, 12:36 am

rita uljee (1)
Monday June 16, 2014, 1:42 am
think Barry T. sums it up very accurate nothing more to add. thanks.

Catrin Schuetz (50)
Monday June 16, 2014, 5:26 am
Depressing , the NRA has the politicians in their pocket .

pam w (139)
Monday June 16, 2014, 7:59 am
When? When we turned over our votes/voices to the NRA! When we allowed frustrated COWBOYS to play out their "Look, Ma! I GOTTA' GUN!" fantasies....

Birgit W (160)
Monday June 16, 2014, 1:31 pm
What about giving up all your weapons in the US?

Carlene V (202)
Monday June 16, 2014, 1:42 pm
Although I agree with Barry on many points I feel the stranglehold the NRA has on our politicians, giving them grades which in real time leads to donation amounts, is a huge part of the daily slaughter that is now going on. The NRA has it's members believing they need guns on their hips and behind their doors or they'll lose their rights. Hey, we've all lost our rights to a safe society because of the NRA and their scare tactics. Clue - the government is NOT coming to collect your guns but try and convince an agitated NRA member of that. We need to get rid of assault weapons and magazines with hundreds of rounds but don't hold your breath, the politicians that won't take a stand on this are cowards only interested in their election coffers.

Jonathan Harper (0)
Monday June 16, 2014, 2:41 pm

Louise D (44)
Monday June 16, 2014, 3:01 pm
There are many factors that create gun crime, inequality, lack of opportunity and then there is the glamor that guns have especially in a society where there are people who think that their right to have a gun and use is is so enshrined in American society that it trumps six year children being massacred in classrooms. Last night I watched a documentary about Elliot Rogers and he justified the murders and random shooting to his lack of success with women. His mental state was known about, yet he thought he was entitled to have sex and when he failed to connect with women because he got drunk and behaved like an asshole. The problem is Reagan Ronald Reagan’s shameful legacy as president and governor of California he led the worst policies on mental illness in generations. The NRA compounds it by preventing even the basic legislation that would prevent such things happening by blocking all attempts to stop the mentally ill getting guns. It is a vicious circle particularly when the place the blame on anything but their own particullar brand of mental illness; denial.

Kathleen M (230)
Monday June 16, 2014, 4:04 pm
Noted. Thanks, Cal. Barry, you nailed it. The NRA is pure evil, and should be banned like asbestos! Not likely, but one can hope!

Rosa Caldwell (384)
Monday June 16, 2014, 6:06 pm
It seems like every day we are hearing about another shooting. Very sad, when will it all end?

Lynn Marie M (22)
Monday June 16, 2014, 7:52 pm
Thing must change.

Panchali Yapa (26)
Tuesday June 17, 2014, 12:19 am
Thank you

reft h (66)
Tuesday June 17, 2014, 12:51 am
I wonder if there is an increase in gun sales after these shootings.

Athena F (131)
Tuesday June 17, 2014, 1:55 am

Betty K Site Issues (304)
Tuesday June 17, 2014, 7:39 am
Because of the media coverage and entertainment featuring so much shooting, people have become immune to the shock of mass shootings and it triggers crazy people to act out.

Gloria H (88)
Tuesday June 17, 2014, 1:36 pm
well duh...back in the days before visual media....people only read about wars and killings in books. Visual images tend to stick with us. We see thousands of killings on the tube, in the theatres so of course, it burrows into the subconscious.
the stuff we see as "entertainment" shows a person getting shot and just going down. Te don't hear what would be more realistic- screaming, the gasping for breath, the family in shock, the grieving of those left behind. It's sorta like we just see a hamburger in a bun, and don't have a clue what terror the animal experienced in the feedlot or slaughterhouse. The middle man, the middle steps are missing and we get the vicarious "benefit" of bloodless food, of getting a morbid kick out of seeing someone die.

Jamie C (282)
Wednesday June 18, 2014, 10:40 am
Instead of looking for blame why is there no one discussing the mental health crisis in this country? There is nowhere to house mentally ill people. There is very little money or time being spent on treatment. There is very little attention paid to the culture of violence in this country where we have turned our country into a police thug state. We use weapons to control the world and control our citizens and its no great surprise that a few ill or disgruntled citizens would turn to the same tools when they snap.

Jamie C (282)
Wednesday June 18, 2014, 10:49 am
Lois Jordan Violence of any kind is related. Actually bombs would be much more damaging. Knives and machetes can be nearly as damaging recently 29 people were killed on a train in China by machete wielding separatist. Medical malpractice and drunk driving probably kills more people. Yes guns are dangerous, yes they can kill and yes they shouldn't be in the wrong hands, but they are here and not going away, but there are underlying issues in our society that need to be resolved to find a real solution or they will just turn to other ways to harm people. Lots of people had guns when I was growing up in the country and it was really easy to get them and much less legal hurdles yet there were very few shootings. Partly it is the media circus but there are underlying issues in our society our culture of violence that have to be dealt with if we want to find a real true solution and not just a bandaid.

Charlene Rush (79)
Thursday June 19, 2014, 6:43 pm
Mass shootings are a typical result of a collective group of people, that believe the only thing that matters in life is what they want, when they want it.
We are reaping the consequences of our own selfishness.

Melania Padilla (122)
Friday June 20, 2014, 11:49 am
Sad to see it indeed :(
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