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Have The Islamist Militants Overreached In Iraq And Syria?

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The Islamist radicals who have declared an Islamic caliphate on land they control straddling Iraq and Syria are waging an audacious publicity stunt, according to some analysts.

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Justin Vale (13)
Sunday July 6, 2014, 9:05 am
he's making a call for people to come and run his caliphate. he admits he can fight, but he also admits that he is not fit to rule and is asking for help. the fighters have answered his earlier call. lets watch and see if the clerks and mechanics answer this one.
he's making all the right moves, he's adapted every step he's taken. he's gone with the wind and notagainst it. his brand of islam is fundamental, no theologians. just a person and his koran. and that plays right into zionist hands. a major unsettling power in the middle of the middle east that is a threat to the gulf states and to tehran herself. but not to israel. fundamental islam teaches you that the jews are the people of the book. isis is a nascent movement, they have no idea where palestinians belong. but they know where they don't. that's the land of the people of the book.
he'll take bagdad, he must. his dreams of abbasid don't happen without bagdad. once he does he makes it his capital and he'll reach out again for muslim worldwide to help him consolidate.

Justin Vale (13)
Sunday July 6, 2014, 9:32 am
let me get your zionist mind ticking here.
he's a doctor, of some form of islamic studies and the philosophy of islam through the ages. his main area of expertise and his hobby is the abbasid era. he dreams of abbasid empire. he will not stop at the borders of iraq. he is a scholar of the abbasid era. and we are layman. but even as layman we know that the abbasid empire was a jewish empire. it couldn't have happened without the jew. it was and still is the golden era in jewsih history. at no other time have jews ever been as powerful as during the abbasid era. colonies spread throughout the empire that later in time suffered because of the fall of the abbasid.
and if we know this can you imagine how much bagdadi knows? he's a scholar of that era.
his ability to go dark suggest outside help from a major player. but who? he is a threat to everyone we can see and hear isis everywhere in the places they have already taken. but in contested areas, in areas of conflict they become too dark to see. somebody is helping them go dark. somebody big. somebody smart. i wouldn't put it past the zionist to share in dreams of empire with a madman.

pam w (139)
Sunday July 6, 2014, 1:41 pm
Let's look at it this way. Fundamental Islam seeks to control the entire planet. Don't kid yourself, if you're thinking this man will be satisfied with a small area in the Middle East.

Because they're robbed banks, these people have LOTS of money and will be using it against anyone who stands in their way.

Anyone foolish to believe the propaganda that "Islam is the religion of peace" hasn't traveled in Muslim countries and has been deliberately ignorant.

Mitchell D (87)
Sunday July 6, 2014, 7:15 pm
Islam is, clearly not "the religion of peace," as Pam states, and this whole Caliphate thing, and ISIS, would be entertaining to watch, except that people's lives are hanging in the balance of the craziness.

Stephen Brian (23)
Sunday July 6, 2014, 11:06 pm
Hi Justin :)

No, the Abbasid Caliphate was no more Jewish than was Christian Europe at the time. It was seriously less Jewish than the Vatican of the Middle Ages. (Where the Pope held huge influence, Jews tended to actually tended to be treated better than in the rest of Europe or under the Caliphate).

Hi Pam and Mitchell :)
The problem is that the texts actually don't tell people how to act. They can't. It always comes down to interpretation. These "fundamentalists" just abandon centuries of interpretation and re-interpretation that incorporates all social progress since the writing of those texts. Islam itself is, for the most part, no more violent than many other religions. The trouble is, as it always was, the effect of a theocracy with the Caliphate's tradition of conquest, which stalled social progress many centuries in the past.

The Caliphate has overreached, but that may not destroy it. The problem with these movements is that they feed upon their own reach. I am concerned that it may grow to fill the role it has claimed for itself through its current media-campaign.

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Monday July 7, 2014, 12:44 am

Thomas M (8)
Monday July 7, 2014, 7:52 am
Sounds to me like the people in the region are beginning to suffer from a huge dose of caliphobia. Maybe the corrupted billions of missing US money in Iraq are funding Bagdadi. Over 200 auditors can't find where it went. Maybe they should look to ISIS. Bagdadi said he was ready to roll into Saudi Arabia - a little advanced media notice. Wow, that will be fun to watch. Good luck in Mecca.
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