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AL GORE SAYS - GO AHEAD WITHOUT THE USA IN CLIMATE CHANGE - BUSH ACCUSED OF BLOCKING TACTICS


Environment  (tags: climate, ClimateChange, environment, bali, carbonemissions, world, Sustainabililty, greenhousegases )

Ali
- 2319 days ago - news.com.au
AL Gore yesterday delivered a rousing call for the world to fight against climate change without the United States, which he accused of blocking tactics at the key UN conference in Bali. CONT. BELOW



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Ali Hirst (286)
Thursday December 13, 2007, 2:14 pm
Exhausted negotiators at the Indonesian resort island grappled over deadlocked text early today, just hours before the talks were scheduled to conclude.

But delegates saw little hope of any early breakthrough on the biggest problem.

To warm applause at a conference side event, Mr Gore took the lash to the United States of President George W. Bush and demanded tough commitments to crack down on the greenhouse-gas emissions that drive global warming.

Mr Gore, who narrowly lost to Mr Bush in 2000, told the packed conference room that he was no longer in office and "not bound by diplomatic niceties".

"So I am going to speak an inconvenient truth," said Mr Gore, referring to the climate film that won him an Oscar.

"My own country, the United States is principally responsible for obstructing progress here in Bali. We all know that," he said to loud cheers.

"But my country is not the only one that can take steps to ensure that we move forward from Bali with progress and with hope."

Environment ministers, or their stand-ins from more than 180 countries, have until today to agree a framework for tackling global warming past 2012, when pledges under the Kyoto Protocol, boycotted by Mr Bush, expire.

Hailing growing local efforts in the United States to fight global warming, the newly minted 2007 Nobel peace laureate urged the conference to be hopeful that the next president who succeeds Mr Bush in 2009 will take action.

"You can feel anger and frustration, and direct it at the United States of America," said Mr Gore.

"Or you can make a second choice, you can decide to move forward and do all of the difficult work that needs to be done and save a large open blank space in your document and put a footnote by it that says this document is incomplete."

"Over the next two years, the United States is going to be somewhere it isn't right now. You must anticipate that," he said.

The White House denied that its delegation was playing a blocking role.

"I think he is incorrect," said spokeswoman Dana Perino.

Despite Mr Gore's impassioned intervention, delegates were mostly consumed by the much drier work of finishing a declaration before the conference, launched on December 3, closes today.

The goal is set down the parameters for negotiations that will give a quantum boost to reducing greenhouse-gas emissions and helping poor countries that are most vulnerable to climate change.

The European Union, backed by developing countries, wants a reference by industrialised countries that a cut of 25-40 per cent in their emissions by 2020, compared with 1990 levels, will be a guideline for future talks.

The United States is opposed to the 25-40 figures, and delegates say its position is also shared by Japan, Canada and Russia.

Angered by what it saw as US-led efforts to water down the final text, the EU warned of snubbing climate talks called by Mr Bush next month in Hawaii if the Bali meeting collapsed.

"If we would have a failure in Bali, it would be meaningless to have the major economies meeting," said Humberto Rosa, secretary of state for the environment from EU president Portugal.

The White House said: "Obviously, those comments are not constructive to a conversation where everybody wants to get together for this meeting to talk about a framework for moving forward."

James Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Quality, rejected blame, saying: "Every country has a negotiating position, not just the US."

"We will lead, the US will lead, and we will continue to lead, but leadership also requires others to fall in line and follow."

In a report issued this year, the UN's climate-change body, the Inter-Governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), predicted that by 2100 global average surface temperatures could rise by between 1.1 C and 6.4 C compared to 1980-99 levels, stoked by heat-trapping gases from burning fossil fuels.

More powerful storms, droughts, floods and rising sea levels are among the risks that will escalate in coming decades, threatening hunger and homelessness for millions, it said.

Yesterday the UN's World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) reported that 2007 was set to be the seventh warmest year on record and the decade of 1998-2007 the warmest ever documented.

 

Jim Phillips (3206)
Friday December 14, 2007, 12:19 pm
Good for Al Gore!
Move forward and let's get going with Climate Change talks and plans. bush no longer speaks for the USA public anymore as he has been out of touch with the American People and reality for a long time now.
 

Stacy A. (4)
Friday December 14, 2007, 1:21 pm
Hurray to Al Gore! Somebody has to stand up and tell it how it is! Bush and the rest of his mindless cowboys are retarded and need to go fishing and leave the White house to someone who knows what the hell they are talking about and will get the job done right the first time! Bush should be exiled from the US....to somewhere out in space....Mars perhaps??!!! He seems to like to fund stupid projects like going to Mars...let's send him there. Instead of worrting about stupid issues we should be ALL be worried about our PLANET...We are nothing without it! America needs to get their priorities straightened out!
 

Nuria Coe (0)
Friday December 14, 2007, 1:45 pm
Too bad he's not running... then again, maybe he's right in that if he were, he would be bound by "political niceties" and now he's freer to speak up.

 

Seph X. (0)
Friday December 14, 2007, 3:22 pm
Citizens of this planet, where ever you are and whilst the US Admin plays blocking tactics here is something you can do and give us your support here Down Under - This Planet is our only home, so - forget your GWB here, as we are all Citizens of the only planet we have, we must take action again and now,
CLIMATE PROTECTION IS LIKE CHARITY - IT STARTS AT HOME - and not by telling others what to do, and fund overseas actions to avoid issues in our own back yards. But here we need all the help we can get.

Therefore, please sign here this one too, we do not only need a success in Bali, but we need most urgent actions and a success here in Australia, to stop the new deforestation plans of the newly earmarked 200,000 hectares of pristine native forest of Tasmania Australia all up for pulping.

The ANZ BANK is considering financing this AUD 1.5 Billion dollar project. Now due to public pressures, they reconsider it all. So tell the new CEO to stop the Pulpmill project, which shall be the world biggest pulp mill or better the world biggest environmental disaster.

I have signed the petition and wrote a letter too. Please help us from around the globe to get as many thousands of eMs to the ANZ Bank before next Tuesday's Annual General Meeting. We need not only thousands of voices, but for every tree one, which makes millions eM to be sent to ANZ.

Only 3 more days to go before the ANZ Bank AGM/Annual General Meeting in Melbourne Australia ! Please tell Mr M Smith, the new CEO, to stop this Gunns Pulpmill in Tasmania, Australia !

(if links do not work, you may have to copy and paste it in the browser, or please see below GetUp website)

Please Note; on the Get-Up site is posted a generic proforma letter for Mr Smith and You can use a 'pen name' or 'alias' should you prefer to. Send also a copy to the new Australian Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, for his information and actions < Kevin.Rudd.MP@aph.gov.au > with a Copy to the new Australian Federal Minister for Climate Change, Sen. Penny Wong < senator.wong@aph.gov.au > just to make sure they are well informed and any scope of blame games is avoided with the urging, that they, the Aust Federal government and the ANZ Bank meet global community expectations to stop this Gunns Project and with it this mega deforestation.

Should you prefer you can also eM direct to ANZ Bank, to: ANZ Stakeholder Communications
< emailcampaign@anz.com > or < yourfeedback@anz.com > clearly made out for the urgent Attention of Mr M Smith, CEO
We here need all the support from the global community... this is indeed a global issue too. Global Warming and Climate changes affects us all, we are all in this.....

Thank you for your help. Click here and have your say and help us all- www.getup.org.au/campaign/TellMrSmith and do not forget to send a copy to the Australian Government, see above.
Thank you for being an active 'climate protector' - with most respectful seasons greetings
 

Past Member (0)
Friday December 14, 2007, 6:42 pm
Emil, I have signed this petition already with comment and have contacted the ANZ . To the people of the world, for more information of what Tasmania Australia will have to endure if the ANZ does finance this destructive activity,.......... check out this website I am posting below to show what has already been happening thanks to our Australian Government on the TIWI Isand of the NT................... ..............................................................................http://naea.org.au/tiwitrashed
 

Past Member (0)
Friday December 14, 2007, 7:10 pm
Check out some of the human contributions to the speedy warming up of our planetCHECK OUT WHAT IS REALLY HEATING UP THE ICE IN FINLAND http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/infrastructure/giertsen/
 

Glenda S. (13)
Friday December 14, 2007, 9:11 pm
I can see in years to come people will look back and thank Al Gore, I'm sure he will be known as the father of the global green revolution. I know many criticize him and say that he is not truly green, but he is the only voice who is yelling loud enough for people to hear, he is bringing awareness to the cause and people are listening.
I know I am talking to the converted, but.......yesterday I woke to read my emails, so many were something to do with the state of the planet. One was an email asking me to write a letter to a bank that is funding pulp mills etc. I had already written my letters and yelled pretty loud about this eco night mare. These banks need to take some responsibility for the destruction.
Then I read that it is too late for the Great Barrier Reef, and all of the reefs world wide, we have gone past the tipping point and we can't fix it. The carbon monoxide in the atmosphere is more concentrated than it has been is 20 million years. Yes you read right 'carbon monoxide'. It is also estimated that this will have a direct effect on the livelihood of 100 million people world wide. And governments say being green is not good for economies, I think being green is the only thing that is going to save economies world wide. This news really affected me and I am telling anyone who will listen.
Then the advanced email on next weeks New Scientist Magazine. Which covers the destruction of habitat for biofuels, one of the blogs I took notice of was the destruction of the peat bogs in Indonesia.......[quote]Yet draining the peat will release 30 times more CO2 than will be saved by replacing fossil fuels with biofuels - an irony that is hard to stomach. The fact that European countries can meet their Kyoto protocol obligations by sponsoring activities that have helped turn Indonesia, of which the giant island of Sumatra is a part, into the world's third largest emitter of greenhouse gases is a savage indictment of the perverse incentives created by the protocol. [quote] rest of the article www.newscientist.com Bog barons: Indonesia's carbon catastrophe
Then I had a quick read over the rest of my emails about greening Christmas, food recalls, donating money to causes, helping the poor, war, etc and the list goes on.............THERE IS SOMETHING SO TERRIBLY WRONG WITH SOCIETY, PLEASE HELP PEOPLE WAKE UP AND MAKE SOME CHANGES!!
Nothing will change until we as a mass, change, it is up to us to do it, governments are not going to, corporations are not going to, we only have us!! Tell people to stop blaming China for it's pollution, if we didn't keep buying the crap and if we didn't support the large multinationals (such as Mattel, who should take responsibility) that have their products made in China, things would change!
Years ago people spoke out about the Vietnam war and it made a difference, people are speaking out now about GW, but it needs to be louder!! It needs to be the biggest movement the world has ever seen.
As Gandhi said "be the change you wish to see in the world"
Look at this movie trailer (it's not actually made yet) , maybe it will inspire you to help people shift their thinking.
http://www.theshiftmovie.com/

I have actually commented on this twice previously but my computer is doing some strange things today and kept crashing, so if for some reason my previous post does appear you know why!
 

Kathy Chadwell (371)
Friday December 14, 2007, 9:40 pm
Thank you Ali:)
I must say the writer should have left off that part about Gore losing the popular vote.
Here is the government records of the popular vote, Gore won.
Federal Elections 2000: 2000 Presidential Popular Vote Summary Table

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/prespop.htm

2000 PRESIDENTIAL POPULAR VOTE SUMMARY
FOR ALL CANDIDATES LISTED ON AT LEAST ONE STATE BALLOT
(Updated 12/2001)

Candidate (Party Label) Popular Vote Total
Percent of Popular Vote


Al Gore (Democrat) 50,999,897
48.38

George W. Bush (Republican) 50,456,002
47.87

Ralph Nader (Green) 2,882,955
2.74

Patrick J. Buchanan (Reform/Independent) 448,895
.42

Harry Browne (Libertarian) 384,431
.36

Howard Phillips (Constitution) 98,020
.09

John S. Hagelin (Natural Law/Reform/Independent) 83,714
.08

Write-In (Miscellaneous) 20,767*
.02

James E. Harris, Jr. (Socialist Workers) 7,378
.01

L. Neil Smith (Libertarian) 5,775
.00

David McReynolds (Socialist) 5,602
.00

Monica Moorehead (Workers World) 4,795
.00

None of These Candidates (Nevada) 3,315
.00

Cathy Gordon Brown (Independent) 1,606 .00

Denny Lane (Vermont Grassroots) 1,044 .00

Randall Venson (Independent) 535
.00

Earl F. Dodge (Prohibition) 208
.00

Louie G. Youngkeit (Independent) 161
.00

Total: 105,405,100*

 

Kathy Chadwell (371)
Friday December 14, 2007, 9:40 pm
Thank you Ali:)
I must say the writer should have left off that part about Gore losing the popular vote.
Here is the government records of the popular vote, Gore won.
Federal Elections 2000: 2000 Presidential Popular Vote Summary Table

http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2000/prespop.htm

2000 PRESIDENTIAL POPULAR VOTE SUMMARY
FOR ALL CANDIDATES LISTED ON AT LEAST ONE STATE BALLOT
(Updated 12/2001)

Candidate (Party Label) Popular Vote Total
Percent of Popular Vote


Al Gore (Democrat) 50,999,897
48.38

George W. Bush (Republican) 50,456,002
47.87

Ralph Nader (Green) 2,882,955
2.74

Patrick J. Buchanan (Reform/Independent) 448,895
.42

Harry Browne (Libertarian) 384,431
.36

Howard Phillips (Constitution) 98,020
.09

John S. Hagelin (Natural Law/Reform/Independent) 83,714
.08

Write-In (Miscellaneous) 20,767*
.02

James E. Harris, Jr. (Socialist Workers) 7,378
.01

L. Neil Smith (Libertarian) 5,775
.00

David McReynolds (Socialist) 5,602
.00

Monica Moorehead (Workers World) 4,795
.00

None of These Candidates (Nevada) 3,315
.00

Cathy Gordon Brown (Independent) 1,606 .00

Denny Lane (Vermont Grassroots) 1,044 .00

Randall Venson (Independent) 535
.00

Earl F. Dodge (Prohibition) 208
.00

Louie G. Youngkeit (Independent) 161
.00

Total: 105,405,100*

 

Michael Angel (58)
Friday December 14, 2007, 10:41 pm
There is a real limit that should have been set
For details
Listen to this science Show
Saturday 15 December 2007
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/scienceshow/default.htm

 

Glenda S. (13)
Friday December 14, 2007, 11:39 pm
Thank you Micheal,
I can actually see now where all of the journalists right across Australia have misinterpreted the carbon dioxide and the carbon monoxide thingy. however it still doesn't take away from the fact that things are in a very serious situation.
 

Ali Hirst (286)
Saturday December 15, 2007, 1:38 am
Australia wants to set a limit it is about 77 other countries...but the USA being the one we would have expected to follow us in bringing down Global Warming is refusing to come into it either. China is the second largest country in pollution and of course they would be fined big time if they don't keep to the limit so that is why they are not coming into it either. Al Gore took a risk speaking out ...it worries me here in Australia that now he has that something strange will happen to HIM....I don't trust Bush with, a mouse let alone a Country.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday December 15, 2007, 1:55 am
Most stuff bought in australia is made in china. Even most almost all the items in Australian tourist souvenier stores are made in china. The problem is so big that humans need to change their consumption habbits. Which is very difficult in this catch 22, so, consumers have very limited choices. Accepting hand-me-downs are one place to start.
 

Glenda S. (13)
Saturday December 15, 2007, 2:32 am
Hi Consuelo, You are so right that so much is made in China and people need to alter their consumption habits, but there are alternatives, and this is something that has been wonderful for my family, they stop and think about what they are going to spend their money on.
There are so many alternatives to what we can buy. I always look for recycled first then look at where it is made and I also buy from artists. I love to buy second hand as well.
A lot of Clothing is made in China but there are alternatives to that too. I can sew and this helps as I buy clothing then remake it.
Once we embraced living this way it was quite easy and we find we don't have the desire to shop anymore.
An example of some of the alternatives I have bought, for one of my sons a belt made from an old bicycle tire, it is so cool. Another son I purchased a pepper grinder made from an old bicycle hub, I bought hand made soaps, I have made gift bags from newspaper, they look great and I saw the very same for sale in a shop at $8.50 each. Almost anything you can think of there is an alternative. Except for electrical, now that is where it gets tricky and mostly I buy secondhand electrical. And shoes are also difficult too. But if everyone just makes even a few small changes then it will all help.
Probably the biggest area is in what we eat, if everyone tries to work with the 100 mile diet this all helps. Packaged food is what lets a lot of people down and it uses the most energy.
 
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