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Retired Lecturer Is 'Grandfather of Everyone in Britain' After DNA Test Reveals He Is Direct Descendant of World's First Woman


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Vivien
- 806 days ago - dailymail.co.uk
Ian Kinnaird, 72, discovered he is effectively the 'grandfather of everyone in Britain' after he paid £200 to take the test to trace his ancestry



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Azaima A. (219)
Sunday July 1, 2012, 8:16 am
aren't we all?
 

Vivien Green (150)
Sunday July 1, 2012, 8:54 am
I would think so too Abbe!!!
 

Joe R. (189)
Monday July 2, 2012, 3:54 am
"A real gobsmacker" indeed!
 

Siti R. (12)
Monday July 2, 2012, 4:00 am
interesting, thanks!
 

Despina Vekris (9)
Monday July 2, 2012, 6:03 am
noted
 

Nyack Clancy (435)
Monday July 2, 2012, 6:03 am
so, if he a descendant of first ever woman who lived on Earth 190,000 years ago-

Does that mean the rest of us may have descended from something other than her? lol

And did he REALLY pay to take a test? That is what is most remarkable!

 

Vivien Green (150)
Monday July 2, 2012, 7:06 am
Basically what the article is saying that his genetic lineage has had no mutations that is why he is a direct link.
 

Gloria picchetti (290)
Monday July 2, 2012, 7:45 am
We are all her descendents.
 

John B. (215)
Monday July 2, 2012, 9:48 am
Thanks Vivien for the extremely interesting Mailonline article regarding Ian and his sister Jean. Remarkable that his and her genetic link had no mutations. Read and noted.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Monday July 2, 2012, 12:02 pm
He has one of a hell of a Christmas card list....
 

Kate Kenner (200)
Monday July 2, 2012, 12:56 pm
I dont think religion had come into the picture yet. We had not evolved to such insanity yet
Most interesting and yes, it is quite a gobsmacker (I love that word).
 

Vicky P. (464)
Monday July 2, 2012, 1:36 pm
wow
 

Gloria H. (88)
Monday July 2, 2012, 3:52 pm
I was hoping I came from aliens. Human beings are crazy! I am surprised we no longer eat each other.(well, financially, we still do).
 

Christopher Fowler (84)
Monday July 2, 2012, 4:01 pm
Amazing what we can figure out with DNA.
 

Lauren Berrizbeitia (68)
Monday July 2, 2012, 4:30 pm
After a few hundred thousand years I would think it wouldn't be too direct. And since we all come from the same root, what the heck are they talking about?
 

Jeremy S. (2)
Monday July 2, 2012, 7:24 pm
All right, so he's the grandfather of everyone is Britain. What about the rest of the world? Just asking...
 

John H. (7)
Monday July 2, 2012, 8:16 pm
This is a bunch of bull. All human beings are one species. If there was one original human all of us are direct descendants of that first human.

Look at the rag the article is from, The Daily Mail. Why is this trash being spread wider by Care2? As for the claim this proves Eve existed, it proves nothing except this individual has ancestry back to Africa. We all do.
 

Shan D. (49)
Tuesday July 3, 2012, 12:23 am
This is freaky. This man reminds me of so many people. And I took one look at the photo of his parents, and was staring at a man who looks remarkably like my own grandfather did in the 1930s. Except he was born in Norway to a Swedish father and Norwegian mother, and never (to my knowledge) set foot in the UK. However, there is Scandinavian in this gentleman's ancestry, so there are evidently common ancestors... wow. To find a (very, VERY distant relative in a Care2 article!).

And yes, we are all ultimately kin to each other, courtesy of the cosmic soup that happened considerably longer ago than 190,000 years...
 

DORIS L. (61)
Tuesday July 3, 2012, 9:34 am
Amazing! Shared on facebook...
 

lolo rawlings (0)
Tuesday July 3, 2012, 12:57 pm
Crazy but cool!
 

Kate Kenner (200)
Tuesday July 3, 2012, 1:11 pm
Aside from the obvious, what amazes me is that he now knows he was related to the first woman. I was adopted and I couldn't even find my birth mother.
 

Aurea Walker (201)
Tuesday July 3, 2012, 3:31 pm
We are all related one way or another back to Africa, yet so many racist bigots think they are somehow exempt. What is very surprising is that there is no roman DNA in this "study" because just like the Vikings and the Germanic tribes the Romans were there prior to them? And I know my Romans were shagging around with the local lovelies.
 

Sue Matheson (71)
Tuesday July 3, 2012, 5:24 pm
wow
 

Tal H. (8)
Tuesday July 3, 2012, 7:31 pm
Thanks for the article!
 

Aino Viita (0)
Wednesday July 4, 2012, 2:46 am
wow
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Wednesday July 4, 2012, 12:37 pm
The above posts by Sjo D., Xiao B., Bei W., Xin X., and Jian Shi, are OBVIOUSLY
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Please, whenever you see such STINKING, DISGUSTING ADS
take just a MOMENT to Click on "flag as inappropriate".
A Care2 staff member ought to then take care of it.

You can also go to the "person's" Profile -- there is a "flag as inappropriate" down at the lower right-hand corner.
But often THERE IS NO PROFILE. THESE ARE OF COURSE NOT REAL CARE2 MEMBERS.
Please BE A GOOD CARE2 CITIZEN -- if we ALL flag, things might get done faster!
And the words, "amazing surprise", suggest to ME, a VIRUS to really mess up your computer.....
 

wolfNoFwdsPls a. (135)
Wednesday July 4, 2012, 12:43 pm
spam posts ought to be deleted when spammer's profile is deleted
and it would be trivial to implement this automatically
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday July 4, 2012, 1:53 pm
Cool DNA trace. however. to call our common ancestor "black Eve" is ridiculous. Any anthropologist will tell you that there is no way of knowing the skin color of anyone or any animal unless we have their skin in front of us. Tissues deteriorate, and even fossils do not provide enough information.
 

Alicia N. (87)
Wednesday July 4, 2012, 3:51 pm
noted
 

Robert Garvin (46)
Wednesday July 4, 2012, 5:58 pm
Is someone trying to tell me that brothers and sisters interbred way back there? Shame on them. That is as bad as Creationists saying that Cain married his SISTER. Surely there must be a better line of thought than that. Or IS there really any better explanation?

Mr Kincaid, Hi, you must be my cousin as we are both the same age we have descended together. LOL
 

Susan Williams (6)
Wednesday July 4, 2012, 10:18 pm
That is so cool. So, Fundies, still think the world was invented 6000 years ago by a demi-urge named Yahweh...
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Friday July 6, 2012, 2:28 am
Aw, too many variables in this to make such a statement IMO. I doubt if they even have the correct 'first woman'. Anyway, that's just DNA and genetics regarding bodies, and a human being is more than a genetic entity.
 

(4)
Friday July 6, 2012, 4:35 am
It's a deception which aims at making money...
 

june t. (65)
Friday July 6, 2012, 10:34 pm
quite interesting
 

John S. (303)
Saturday July 7, 2012, 4:59 am
Interesting.
 

aj E. (164)
Saturday July 7, 2012, 8:54 am
ok
 

Julia R. (290)
Saturday July 7, 2012, 5:11 pm
Very interesting! This article indeed shows that we are all related and that physical appearances are very superficial!
 

Lucie G. (40)
Monday July 9, 2012, 12:24 am
i listened to this on the radio this morning. So interesting and such a humble man. Their work is unraveling keys to our ancestry and bringing the bible alive.
 

Sandi C. (236)
Monday July 9, 2012, 8:22 am
Aren't we all!
 

Louise D. (38)
Monday July 9, 2012, 10:21 am
Well it does help the author of a book who did the research sell his book what this guy has is a genetic line that is very lose to the first common female ancestor's line.
 

Dave C. (214)
Monday July 9, 2012, 3:48 pm
thats a lot of birthday and other holiday presents he needs to start buying....
 

Shan D. (49)
Monday July 9, 2012, 5:07 pm
Gifts work the other way, too, Dave C. I can't wait to see what he's gonna do with those several million pairs of slippers he'll be receiving from everybody...
 

Charlie Rush (54)
Tuesday July 10, 2012, 3:16 pm
I'm not educated enough in this scientific area, to agree or disagree.
More proof is needed.
 

Bob P. (427)
Wednesday July 11, 2012, 6:40 am
thanks
 

Vivien Green (150)
Wednesday July 11, 2012, 11:39 am
To the parasites who use Care2 news for advertising you are wasting your time nobody is going to buy goods from people like you. Get lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Rin S. (10)
Wednesday July 11, 2012, 11:40 pm
Awkward, because I don't believe in the Adam and Eve bullshit.
 

Rin S. (10)
Wednesday July 11, 2012, 11:41 pm
Awkward, because I don't believe in the Adam and Eve bullshit.
 

Patricia Garc´┐Ża Ces (8)
Thursday July 12, 2012, 8:24 am
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

Gene Jacobson (252)
Friday July 13, 2012, 1:58 pm
There is more advertising spam here than actual comments. What is up with that? How do they get in here?

As for the story, interesting but unremarkable, our entire species is descended from some homo sapiens ancestor, does it really matter which one? Our genome is identical, virtually, and we have interchangeable parts as any transplant surgeon can tell you given certain parameters to assure compatibility, and lacking compatibility is not related to our DNA. We ARE one people, as much as that disturbs some people, it is still our truth.
 

Lindsay Kemp (1)
Friday July 13, 2012, 4:18 pm
This is a fascinating story. Thanks for posting
 

Rebecca Y. (26)
Sunday July 15, 2012, 1:57 pm
Every person commenting on this site should send FLAG AS INAPPROPRIATE ALL THESE IDIOTS POSTING THEIR SALES CRAP!
As far as the genealogy goes...how much did he pay for this??? We are all from the first female, all over the globe! I would think that goes without question unless, however, they find we are all related to an orangutan,...that would be original, ....maybe! I think the sales idiots are related to baboons!
 

Robert Hardy (67)
Monday July 16, 2012, 3:15 pm
So you think my "gramps" will let me come stay with him for a while?
 

Catherine G. (13)
Wednesday July 18, 2012, 1:50 am
Very interesting but not sure how much of it to believe. Can DNA really go that far back?
Actually I thought scientists had discovered that civilisation appeared in the fertile crescent, near the area later known as Mesopotamia. It is a long way from Senegal, so I am feeling confused about that one.
Does anyone know the answer to this?
 
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