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Dog Cull in China to Fight Rabies


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Jacquelin
- 2982 days ago - news.bbc.co.uk
A county in south-west China has ordered all 50,546 dogs to be killed to fight a rabies outbreak which has killed three people, state media says. It has taken five days, but authorities in Mouding County in south-west China say they have killed almost



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PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Tuesday August 1, 2006, 12:58 am
Rabies is serious but this is insanity !! It's their ridiculous issues concerning pets. Insisting all dogs and pets be vaccinated is the answer to the majority of these rabies cases. This is a disgrace to an extreme.

This makes me so upset and angry that I hate. Hate is a strong word.True real hate. I feel it right now and I shouldn't. They just treat animals worse and worse. This is my opinion right now. I am reading and seeing this so enraged. Please do not judge me because of my reaction at the moment.
I could not kep my mouth shut. To have a dog cull of over 50,000 dogs is true insanity. Crazy!
 

Simone D. (1485)
Tuesday August 1, 2006, 2:36 am
I understand competely Prima what you are feeling, it never seems to get better for animals, there is always something else to harm, abuse and murder them.They will not be happy until there are no animals left on this world, it seems to me that they want to rid our world of all animals, that's the only explanation that I have for this.
It is so unbelievable that they are doing this,and I can understand a deep hatred that settles into your soul because this is pure evil.
 

. (0)
Wednesday August 2, 2006, 6:59 am
Well, when they rid the planet of the animals we will be gone too - we need them and that must be understood even by the abusers and killers. As for this cull in China, it is appalling - it seems such a scant regard for life!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday August 2, 2006, 1:07 pm
We should ban all things from China to show our outrage! I cannot imagine that being done. It makes me ill.
 

Herojeet Salam (3)
Thursday August 3, 2006, 5:28 am
Few months back, the same disease spread at Manipur, a hilly state in north eastern part of India, claming more than 11 lives. This lead to mass killing of pet dogs despite measures taken up by the local government to vaccinate. It hurted me alot.. Let it not happen again... We shall look for other preventive measures..
 

Luisa L. (116)
Thursday August 3, 2006, 7:27 am
I'm so disgusted over this. China has to stop their abuse of dogs !
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Thursday August 3, 2006, 9:22 am
See ,these countries have no understanding ,are 110% uneducated and have NO feelings about animals being on any level but nothing.
Obviously not every persoon in China sees animals this way when they fall in love with them or get attached but this is not the majority and the way they think about animals is inbedded in teir culture.

I really am not up to date on who is in charge of each country. I read so much that I should know and probably would if I herd something to trigger my memory. I despise politics so I don't know as much about how the country is run...but I know they need a huge change.

I don't know if anything will change unless someone changes the way China is run. This is not the only country that has done this.

I believe it was an area of Texax that killed the pitbulls?? Not sure at the moment. I'm hurrying and I am not thinking properly.

I wanted to make one comment and I am too rushed so if I said something wrong ,I'm sorry.
 

Alex W. (2)
Thursday August 3, 2006, 5:20 pm
This in the country that will be hosting the Olympics!
 

Lost Gurl X. (89)
Friday August 4, 2006, 10:56 am
This is horrible. I can not believe that a slaughter of animals is so easy for them. It sickens me.
 

Gypsy Brokenwings (22)
Friday August 4, 2006, 11:08 am
Ok, so what's the solution to their ignorance? Yes, it makes me upset... hurt more than mad, for those animals.
Boycot? Letters to our leaders?
It seems the only thing China knows how to do is "destroy" a threat. A different perspective on effectiveness of vaccines, and pro-active approaches may help. Face it in country that doesn't value animal lives enough to have laws against inhumain treatment will be hard to convince. They need to understand our link to all living creatures and how harming one harms all... including the animals called human.
 

MEL ISSA (3)
Friday August 4, 2006, 11:09 am
Three humans die...so they kill 50,000 dogs? Sounds like overkill. But, look at George Bush, and how many HUMANS that HE'S responsible for killing. I'm all for putting those responsible for unnecessary deaths in a dark, cold, prison cell.
 

Candi Ausman (69)
Friday August 4, 2006, 11:29 am
How can they be so damn stupid? Even vaccinated dogs? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
 

Ruth K. (6)
Friday August 4, 2006, 11:36 am
Wanton killing of innocent animals, when there are many other ways to prevent rabies, is heartless. Those countries have no regard for the precious asset of pets. How can we respect people who are so heartless? I just want to cry out to them to stop and think!
 

Jayme Hunt (10)
Friday August 4, 2006, 11:48 am
Do unto others as you would have done to you. Others=all life forms!!
 

Myra C. (1)
Friday August 4, 2006, 11:48 am
China is a major source of most of our products. If we ban everything made in China what could we buy? I would love to ban everything form China for many reasons but this is at the top of my list. We need to get our government to do something about this but the Bush government today if letting people die and even encouring it in the middle east. I feel as though everything is going to hell in a handbasket. Scottie beam me up!! I am not being funny I wish I could leave this planet and go to a peaceful place.
 

NA P. (8)
Friday August 4, 2006, 12:05 pm
I read about this through Yahoo News. I believe those murders and their government deserve to die of rabies for their uncaring, ignorant slaughters. I remember what the Chinese government did to the student protesters in Bejing, and our president then was Bush senior. He did not even admonish their government for the slaughter of their own people, Bush junior would not do anymore for the canine slaughter. He is anti-environment, anti-animal rights in our own country as it is. Humans will never be superior to other animals until we learn to respect ALL life, stop slaughters of animals and other humans, and trancend our ignorant, violent selves!
 

Dana L. (27)
Friday August 4, 2006, 12:07 pm
Test all Animals.
Vaccinate all Animals.
Humanely Put Down all infected animals.
Instead of mass Culling they should be doing a mass capture and test, and vaccination. Then any dogs they captures that did not have owners it would be their chance to find good homes for... However, Rabies is not just spread by Dogs, it is spread by Cats, Bats, Rats, Mice, Birds. It can be spread by anything. To me it appears that someone in higher up just hates dogs in general and is using that as an excuse to create panic and kill... IT's sickening. Someone needs to Educate China of How rabies are spread, and what the proper way of dealing with it is....
 

Ann Jay B. (1)
Friday August 4, 2006, 12:24 pm
While I agree that the culling of dogs in China is horrible, and the medthod used is unbelieveable, it would be almost impossibel to stop an outbreak of rabies there by starting immunization. Less than 3% of the 50,000 dogs in that province are vaccinated and it would take more than one shot per dog to provide immunity in an animal that has neverbeen vaccinated. There is NO effective treatment for rabies once symptoms are present. Over 2000 people in China die every year from rabies. In 2004 there were 7 human cases of potential rabies in the entire US and none of those resulted in deaths as far as I could tell. . If we had anything like the current statistics in China, we might have a very different take on this issue. Any one who is interested in learning more about Rabies and rabies vaccination can go to the CDC web site at: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/rabies/Introduction/intro.htm .
I find it very interesting that they are clubbing potentially infected dogs to death, in that the disease can also be spread by contact with the blood or bodily fluids of an infected animal. It does not require that the animal bites in order to spread the disease! Either those workers are very brave or ignorant of the risks they are taking.
 

Terry Salter (0)
Friday August 4, 2006, 12:27 pm
All this abuse of Animals in this World makes me sick. Pity they didnt cull a few million people. The people in this World today are just rubbish. There are some good people left, but loads more that should be put down. Sorry about my opinion, but I am sick to death of poor Animals being treated this way!
 

Rosemary L. (20)
Friday August 4, 2006, 12:32 pm
"We patronize them for their incompleteness, for their tragic fate of having taken form so far below ourselves. And therein we err, and greatly err. For the animal shall not be measured by man. In a world older and more complete than ours they move finished and complete, gifted with extensions of the senses we have lost or never attained, living by voices we shall never hear. They are not brethren, they are not underlings; they are other nations, caught with ourselves in the net of life and time, fellow prisoners of the splendour and travail of the earth."

-- Henry Beston, circa 1925
 

Charlene N. (41)
Friday August 4, 2006, 12:51 pm
When any life, man or animal, is considered less worthy than another, atrocities result. This is a horrible symptom of that widespread ignorance.
 

Debbie L. (180)
Friday August 4, 2006, 12:54 pm
This senseless and violent slaughter of so many innocent animals will not fix theri problem in china. I can't believe that these people are so unbelievably uneducated and unfeeling. If only 3% of the animals were vaccinated, couldn't they have quaranteed the animals who were not vaccinated against rabies, that would weed out the infected animals and they could then be euthanized in a humane manner instead of beating them to death. Then they would need to vaccinate the reamaining healthy animals, and hey heres an idea" Make it a law " that all animals kept or purchased for family pets be vaccinated" . Oh here's another idea maybe they should also while they are at it, make a spay and neuter law as well. There were so many more solutions to this outbreak of rabies, something humane surely should have been to pick of choice here. What these people did was so Horrible, I really am trying hard to control what I am typing here-I am beyond angry and sad!!!!!! But I guess when individuals view anyone other than themselves to be lower than dirt and have no worth, how they die or suffer has no meaning, and compassion is not to be forthcoming. I agree with the post above on Culling a few Million Human Beings(and I use that term loosely), and that would be a very nice starting point for ending these types of problems and horrific behaviors/actions toward these poor animals, who did nothing to warrant this brutal slaughter, except be born into an uncaring & uneducated country, where vaccinations even for humans is hard to come by. Please no one take offense to my angry post here, I am simply expressing with enraged emotions right now, so if I offend anyone I do appologize in advance.
 

Melanie B. (142)
Friday August 4, 2006, 1:09 pm
This is an excerpt from a letter written by Yoon Choi back in 2003 protesting the massacres:

"When I discovered the way that companion animals are being treated in China, I was truly heartbroken to see such beautiful creatures being dealt with in so cruel and inhumane a manner. I can almost hear the screams of terror and pain that are now commonplace in the Chinese meat markets. I also feel the anguish and terror that the caring people in China must be experiencing. Since we already know that killing dogs in their thousands is both a very expensive and, indeed, a wholly ineffective way of controlling rabies, people have begun to suspect that Chinese government officials have ordered the killing of both stray and pet dogs as a means of preventing the Chinese public from forming emotional attachments to them."

He raises a critical point that can't be overlooked in a country where eating dogs and using their fur are industries.

His organization:

www.friendsofdogs.net

Please visit Animals Asia Foundation website, they are based in Hong Kong and "dedicated to ending cruelty and restoring respect for all animals in Asia." They are working to end dog culls.

http://www.animalsasia.org/index.php?module=1&menupos=1&lg=en

Also, please sign the following two petitions:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/131317412

http://www.gopetition.com/sign.php?currentregion=237&petid=8997

The second one only has 137 signatures, so needs lots of help.
 

Melanie B. (142)
Friday August 4, 2006, 1:09 pm
This is an excerpt from a letter written by Yoon Choi back in 2003 protesting the massacres:

"When I discovered the way that companion animals are being treated in China, I was truly heartbroken to see such beautiful creatures being dealt with in so cruel and inhumane a manner. I can almost hear the screams of terror and pain that are now commonplace in the Chinese meat markets. I also feel the anguish and terror that the caring people in China must be experiencing. Since we already know that killing dogs in their thousands is both a very expensive and, indeed, a wholly ineffective way of controlling rabies, people have begun to suspect that Chinese government officials have ordered the killing of both stray and pet dogs as a means of preventing the Chinese public from forming emotional attachments to them."

He raises a critical point that can't be overlooked in a country where eating dogs and using their fur are industries.

His organization:

www.friendsofdogs.net

Please visit Animals Asia Foundation website, they are based in Hong Kong and "dedicated to ending cruelty and restoring respect for all animals in Asia." They are working to end dog culls.

http://www.animalsasia.org/index.php?module=1&menupos=1&lg=en

Also, please sign the following two petitions:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/131317412

http://www.gopetition.com/sign.php?currentregion=237&petid=8997

The second one only has 137 signatures, so needs lots of help.
 

Sandy Erickson (0)
Friday August 4, 2006, 1:17 pm
How many unwanted pets are distroyed in the US every year?
 

Amanda M. (18)
Friday August 4, 2006, 2:07 pm
Last night, my boys and I saved a newborn kitten that was in our backyard tangled in a weed. We don't know what happened to the mother, but we got some kitten formula and fed it and kept it alive through the night. Today we took it to the Humane Society where one of their employees had a lactating mother to put it with.

I have tried to teach my boys a deep love, compassion and respect for all of Mother Nature's gifts. Then when I read a story like this, my heart just breaks. What does this teach the children in China? It's just an animal and it doesn't matter.

Of course, this is coming from the government and culture that perpetrated the Tianamen Square massacre on its own people. If they can do that, dogs (or people, or any other animals) mean less than nothing to them.

What a tragic waste...........................
 

brad siegfried (140)
Friday August 4, 2006, 2:08 pm
I once read that 3 Chinese workers in a refrigerator manufacturer were executed because they did not meet their quotas. That was outrageous enough. This is worse, a genocide of animals by a warped and evil goverment who pays people to perform their dirty work. May God have mercy on them all...
 

Cindy Russel (0)
Friday August 4, 2006, 2:28 pm
This truly makes me sad. It is insane. You would think that in these times we would have progressed enough for this never to happen. Why are there no laws against this? What kind of people are these?
 

C G. (63)
Friday August 4, 2006, 2:31 pm

The next "cull" is already in the works -- 500,000 dogs are in danger.

10 times more dogs than last week's massacre.

Please contact the Chinese embassy in your country and protest:

US citizens:

His Excellency Zhou Wenzhong
Ambassador of the People's Republic of China
Embassy of the People's Republic of China
2300 Connecticut Ave. N.W.
Washington, DC 20008
Tel: (202) 328-2574
Fax: (202) 328-2582

Addresses for Chinese embassies around the world can be found here:

http://www.travelchinaguide.com/embassy/embassy_list.htm

Amanda -- I read a letter written by a Chinese animal welfare organization. They suspect that the brutality is intentional. It is meant to prevent Chinese citizens from feeling compassion or developing emotional attachment to dogs. Dogs are slaughtered for food and fur in industries there. They do not want the public to agitate for humane treatment of dogs.




 

Linda B. (40)
Friday August 4, 2006, 2:32 pm
This is horrible, but from a country that has human rights "problems", it seems to follow their lack of respect for life in any form. What about all the other mammals that can spread the disease? What about being proactive, and using a vacine?
 

Paul Paine (27)
Friday August 4, 2006, 2:37 pm
Some of you readers may know about the antics of the Chinese during the Korean war, as you could hire about a thousand Chinese warriors for about the cost of a riffle, they would charge a machine gun or a fortification with three to five rifles in the front of each column with hundreds behind them with only ammo. They had no respect for life back then and they have vary little now, be it human or animal.
 

angela b. (220)
Friday August 4, 2006, 2:44 pm
They are subhuman, have no respect for life of any sort.. disugusting.
 

Gina H. (28)
Friday August 4, 2006, 3:55 pm
I just don't understand how anyone can be so cruel and heartless. I can hardly handle reading about these abuses so how can they actually commit them? Prima, I totally understand how you can feel hatred when you read this stuff I feel it myself. Anger and hatred almost overwhelming. I also agree with Jennifer B we should ban China this isn't the first animal cruelity issue they had. They have no respect for animal lives. They're just property to them, property without feelings.
 

Geri Creque (15)
Friday August 4, 2006, 3:55 pm
This is not the way to "cure" the rabies problem. Vaccinations might help, but since dogs and cats are routinely part of the diet, that is not a probable outcome. This is a tragedy, but what do we expect when female humans are not valued enough to be a welcome addition to a family?
 

Anna Donegan (23)
Friday August 4, 2006, 4:10 pm
Its nothing less than I have come to expect from the Chinese,Japanese,Korean...need I go on...but then what do you expect from countries that treat their pwn people no less different.I say its time to start boycotting ALL these countries by not buying from them and not giving them Tourism,I for one refuse to part with money to PAY these people to abuse and torture animals....To HELL with them ALL..I'm tired of their flimsy excuses and whinings...maybe the good Buddah sent the Rabies as a Plague upon these people..if its not that it WILL be something else..for sure..they cant get away with this kind of immoral and unethical behaviuor forever....what goes around comes around...I cant wait for the second round of nature making her point!
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 4, 2006, 4:17 pm
Ok, so what's the solution to their ignorance? Yes, it makes me upset... hurt more than mad, for those animals.
Boycot? Letters to our leaders?
It seems the only thing China knows how to do is "destroy" a threat. A different perspective on effectiveness of vaccines, and pro-active approaches may help. Face it in country that doesn't value animal lives enough to have laws against inhumain treatment will be hard to convince. They need to understand our link to all living creatures and how harming one harms all... including the animals called human.


The above is "Gypsy Brokenwings'" comment and I think her comment is a good one. I just don't know how to change a culture that has this inbedded in their heads for decades and worse every year....
This is posted all over now and I have commented with disgust,anger and I feel true "hate" about this. I can't help it and I don't know what would make it get through their heads...........

I hope it was OK to add your comment here Gypsy? I agree with it.... I just don't know how to change their thinking.
 

PrimaSICK B. (1278)
Friday August 4, 2006, 4:21 pm
I should have added I agree with most things said here. I just felt Gypsy's comment summed it up easily. I know what they should do and most of you all agree but how to get it in their minds is something else. The comment on how much we buy made from China is something to think about..... Money talks and hitting people where money hurts always changes things.

 

Linda Campbell (33)
Friday August 4, 2006, 5:07 pm
It never ceases to amaze me how people choose to act irrational instead of proatively. Animals are so mistreated. Vaccination is the easier option imagine how much time and energy it took to kill all of these animal. I already don't buy from China they treat thier people like nothingness and I won't support a country who violates human rights. If you see made in China don't buy it thier people are treated just like dogs and I can't support it. America should have already boycotted China wake up and stand for what is right and stop giving them our money that their people never get.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 4, 2006, 5:15 pm
This is so sad and tragic. How can anyone be so cruel? What is our world coming to? Doesn't life mean anything anymore. How can human beings be so heartless and cold?
 

Mary P. (51)
Friday August 4, 2006, 5:29 pm
Well just look what they do to their own people and children. And they are supposed to be so "Venerable".
 

Christine Chen (1)
Friday August 4, 2006, 5:33 pm
I don't think the solution is to judge and blame the Chinese or their culture, of which we have little understanding. While I am not condoning the killing, I think we should take a step back and think about how animals are treated in this country (veal, chickens that are raised for food, cows, etc.). What we need is a widespread mindset change, and that doesn't come from condemnation and pointing fingers. People in glass houses...
 

Alita D. (6)
Friday August 4, 2006, 5:37 pm
I HAVE A GREAT IDEA
 

Maria Loveless (1)
Friday August 4, 2006, 5:38 pm
I think that is a drastic action to take, it is sickening!
 

J Kirby (40)
Friday August 4, 2006, 5:47 pm
Regarding Alex W's comment on China hosting the Olympics, let's not forget that Canada is hosting the 2010 Winter Olympics. What about a boycott of Canadian goods, and tourism and the Olympics till they stop the slaughter of baby Harp Seals?
 

Paul Paine (27)
Friday August 4, 2006, 6:37 pm
An other Chinese dog torture case

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/454118246
 

Mary Jane K. (13)
Friday August 4, 2006, 6:52 pm
I am in favor of boycotting China for several reasons, this only adds to it.
 

Esther H. (2)
Friday August 4, 2006, 6:56 pm
This killing of all dogs is beyond horrific and sickening. I realize their culture regarding animals is so much different than ours, but it is still inhumane. All these dogs did not need to die. Yet our country continues to import so many products from them. What does that say about us?
 

Nelly P. (85)
Friday August 4, 2006, 6:57 pm
I do not understand why certain people behave with that lack of humanity. Today's quote reflects properly my own wish.

"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as now they look upon the murder of men."

—Leonardo Da Vinci, Renaissance artist/inventor.
 

Monica K. (2)
Friday August 4, 2006, 7:25 pm
Perhaps we should simply empty China of all animals and quarantine the humans for being dangerous.

Boycott Chinese goods -write your government official today whatever country you are in
 

Susan A. (38)
Friday August 4, 2006, 7:37 pm
This is horrbile! What are they gonna do next kill all the people because of aids?!?!
China is stupid!!!
 

Kelly Nash (0)
Friday August 4, 2006, 7:48 pm
I personally wont be buying anything made in China. I have never looked where something was made before but I surely will now. If they treat their animals like that it just goes to show what they would do to their own people if they thought they "needed to". Absolutely sickening. Makes me cry.
 

Christina Mcclure (1)
Friday August 4, 2006, 7:53 pm
This is heartbreaking & stupid. How lucky we are to live in a country that doesn't do such things.....Though, ofcourse, we do other awful things like slaughtering wild horses & wolves...etc. It's all so disgusting & sad..
 

Steve Dale (545)
Friday August 4, 2006, 8:04 pm
This is typical beauracracy gone mad,they take the easy way out by kiiling all dogs instead of finding the few who are infected,until governments are held accountable for there actions this senseless stupidity will continue which is against what the people want,and yet that is what governments are meant to do,to do what the people want,WHEN WILL THIS EVER HAPPEN?
 

Jess M. (5)
Friday August 4, 2006, 8:26 pm
What is the world coming to? I think every second of the day, every corner of the world, some atrocities are being done to animals. It boggles my mind and my heart breaks for every single animal that went through hell in somebody's cruel hands. I am boycotting China products now and I hate everything about them. They mistreat their own people and animals and they are pure evil.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 4, 2006, 8:43 pm
Jessica ..

The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.--Gandhi
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 4, 2006, 8:44 pm
Everyone ...

we must ... all of us ... living beings ... ealize ... that we cannot continue to kill each other ...

how much longer do you need to learn this lesson?

 

Samson Lawrence (261)
Friday August 4, 2006, 8:55 pm
What China did is extremely apalling but knee jerk reactions over mad cow disease in Europe and other parts of the world is recent history. The plain truth there are too many jerks in this world called human beings. Its a shame for all, the extreme solution i can think of is to stop having pets or dairy farms or poultry. Animals are better off having nothing to do with man. Let there only be wild animals, no domestic ones, so are not put in the agony to see and hear all this.
 

Jason Robb (1)
Friday August 4, 2006, 9:01 pm
"We should ban all things from China to show our outrage! I cannot imagine that being done. It makes me ill. "

I live in Alberta, Canada and we are a rat free province. We kill rats because some of them carry diseases. I am sure other provinces and states take measures to kill animals that are undesirable. Keep in mind that dogs are not as important as pets in China. They do not value dogs the same. So your city/state/country is probably doing something too, so if this gets you fired up, find something in your own area that needs changing!! It is great when the fire can get something done!

So while this is pretty brutal, and the taking of someone's pet is needless and wrong, it is not unreasonable, and perhaps not even bad, if the dogs they are killing are strays. But it is hard to believe that such an overreaction is possible. Some of the posts sound like people are not putting context to the story, and we can judge, but just do it fairly. Nothing is black and white (though this is mostly black).
 

Gayle C. (0)
Friday August 4, 2006, 9:36 pm
What do you expect of China? They are barbarians, stuck in the days of Neanderthal. They suffocate their female new borns and now, instead of humanely killing these dogs, which is barbaric enough, they beat them to death. How lovely. But alas, our "civilized" country keeps trading with the idiots. Just goes to show you intellectuals don't have have souls.

The Chinese will never evolve, they're hopeless.
 

Gayle C. (0)
Friday August 4, 2006, 9:39 pm
And to those of you who want to "rationalize" this behavior, you have no business on an environmental/animal site. What is wrong with you people?!!! You kill rats, un huh, so do you get together, steal them from their owners and beat their brains in? hmmm Rats are highly intelligent and if you have to kill them, do it humanely. These poor dogs are owned and loved and all of a sudden, somebody beats in their head. Why don't you bang your head up against the wall for about 5 minutes until you draw some blood and feel the excrutiating pain of head injury before you talk about "reasonableness." You disgust me.
 

Thunderr Wolf (499)
Friday August 4, 2006, 10:01 pm
truly a deplorable display of typical human ignorance
 

mark s. (81)
Friday August 4, 2006, 10:37 pm
Write your congressman or senators and let them know how you feel about this and other inhumane actions; it only takes a few moments through email, fax or even call them on the phone!! Get active; do something!!!
 

Melanie B. (142)
Friday August 4, 2006, 10:48 pm

China Boycott Union

http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/index.htm

Sources of non-Chinese products:

http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/non_chinese_products.htm



 

Praecedes Futaka (1)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 12:04 am
This is wrong!!! Dogs should not be killed for something they cannot prevent!
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 12:08 am
Do any "people" in the West realize that dogs and cats are used for "food" in China and Southeast Asia and Japan?
 

Kimberly Jorgensen (2)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 12:37 am
China is not a...but THEE world power. And do you want to know who put him there???? I'll give you one guess... BUSH. Some people may have thought that what Clinton did was immoral and discusting, but he made sure we had a surplus in government cash. Bush Sr. put us in the red with the Gulf War (#1) and now, because of Bush Jr. were submissive to....Who do you ask... CHINA!!!

Unfourtnally China makes everything and owns everything (and I'm not talking about the people, it's the government... so don't go hating all or any people of Chinese decent) including us. You people may not want to believe me but every thing (cash) we borrow is from China. I do believe what they do is outragous and I'm almost speechless, but these are the people who would kill their child if it were a female... and still do. China is the most densely populated country in the world... I think they only think about themselves (the men in the country), money and development. Life, whether it's women, children, poor, sick or animals, means hardly anything to them and that makes me mad, sad, confused and ashamed to call myself a human.

I have never been able to understand how people can have no compassion for life, whether it was people from ancient Rome (or any other ancient country for that matter), modern day Middle Eastern Terrorists or anyother type of terrorist groups (including Christians... abortion clinics... sound familiar... disreguard for life). The Chineese eat cat and dog. They don't care. To tell them how to treat animals or any other life form is not going to phase them because of the simple fact that they are the richest nation/country in the world... and you know what... the rich do what they want!

Although Boycotting everything made in China would hurt them a bit... it would take a lot from this country's politicians to (I think the word is...?) embargo (or whatever it means to ban the distribution of a countries products). On top of that... we'd have to find an other country or even people in this country to make the products that would be banning, otherwise people would be hurting.

NOTE: I feel no anomosity towards people of Chineese, Middle Eastern or Roman decent, nor do I have anything against most Christians. Oh, and I have nothing against the rich.
 

Denise Pennie (14)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 12:44 am
This is action borne out of panic mode and a total disregard for life I have no problem in euthanizing sick animals as to me this is a kidness saving them suffering but to cull all insanity.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 12:56 am
Senseless and inhumane to the extreme...
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 1:14 am
This is so wrong and makes me sick shame on China
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 1:26 am
I can not believe this. How could any human being be so heartless and cold and take so much life. There are many ways to save these innocent animals. And preventions of them getting rabies. If they must be put to sleep, there are much more humane ways. Murder is wrong. For any reason to take another life whether it be human or animal. And that is what this is, it's murder. They eat dog meat all the time like it's nothing , the torture and death to their women and children, and now this. This is and cruel and they can not even be human.
I hope each person that participated in taking the life of even one of these innocent animals, will continuously hear that dog whine so loud in their ears that they can not even function normally or sleep at night.
I am sorry if anything I have said upsets or offends anyone in any way. It is not meant to. I am an animal lover and I hate it that these people have done this, it is just so wrong. And they got away with it.
 

Yvette T. (144)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 2:13 am
I understand that Rabies there was the issue- but you need to first take prevenative measures from things like this happening. I also understand that different cultures think in different ways- However, No culture should condone cruelty and heinous acts against ANY living thing!
What all of us Humans need to realize is that ALL living things were put upon this planet to live together as one! Just because we walk upright, can be educated and make "educated" decisions, that does not give us the right to decide who should live and who should die. We were not put on this earth to judge anyone or anything- but we ALL do it.
Education is key here. China and Japan have always boasted how "Intellectual" they are. Well, you can have all sorts of Book Sense, but Common Sense can not be learned, no one can teach that to you! This is common sense 101- Treat the infected animals if possible, do no harm to animals Not infected, Educate the people on getting proper vaccines for their pets.
If these poor animals have rabies- there are much better ways to deal with it than culling. No one should ever have to part with their beloved family pet just because the government is afraid and uneducated in Rabies!
I am never one to "bash" another culture and I hope that is not how it's coming across. I AM a big animal advocate and I will always speak up for those who can not speak for themsleves. If those of us who have commented here as well as others who care deeply for animal rights do not step forward and try to help them in any way we can- They will never have a chance.
As far as Boycotting- how about the Olympics? If ALL countries that participate in the Olympics would Boycott until they agree that this is the wrong way to treat ANY living thing- That would put a real Hurtin' on their economy, don't you think?.
 

Enelya Gray (159)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 2:19 am
This is so senseless; typical of human ignorance.
 

Meri Lee (2)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 2:37 am
Rabies is carried and transmitted by a number of animals - here in the States, you are much more likely to run into a rabid bat, skunk, racoon, or squirrel. Are the Chinese authorities going to go after the wild animals next? This is a senseless and brutal policy. You might as well start killing children because they carry measles, mumps, and chicken pox - all of which can be fatal to adults!
 

Linda J. (160)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 3:34 am
This is so sick . Are these humans doing this to animals , you think its animals against animals how can any human mistreat any animal. Makes me very very Sad. Love and Hugs Linda , and GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS.
 

Kimberley K. (10)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 3:37 am
This makes me sicker than I could possibly describe.
 

Paul Nash (20)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 4:07 am
It`s Barbaric ! ! ! but then, do we value Human live any higher. You Judge a society by how it treats its Old and it`s Animals
 

Fran Cannon (477)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 4:17 am
I think that it is an inhumane and cruel, thoughtless , barbaric way to treat dogs! I can hardly believe humans, doing that,could possibly live with themselves. Animals are precious, living, breathing, wonderful beings.Those people are sick, and it makes me sick inside.
 

Lone Star Rick (367)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:02 am
China as a developing nation needs to adopt rabies vaccines for all of it's domestic pets, so as to end atrocities as this one from happening.
 

Elizabeth F. (26)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:16 am
We all know that China is the land of the dead. This is nothing different. These people have no respect for living, breathing creatures. They view themselves as above all others. When you read what one family did about their dog, this puts the truth out there. They said in the article: We had the dog 4 or 5 years, so we just hanged the dog, and then they ate him for dinner??? This country is the most disgusting of all nations. Everyone from there should be embarrassed to be Chinese. There is no government and there will never be anything but death there if you are a creature. China is known around the world as being one of the most barbaric countries, and what they are doing to these dogs only shows they live up to their reputation.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:18 am
i don`t understan people..... they always act against nature...
 

Loren Bauer (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:19 am
I think it is terribe that such drastic action should be taken against these animals.Its not there fault they dont have their shots. I think a way should be found for them to get their shots so that this doesnt have to happen anymore.
 

Dee G (199)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:31 am
This is so barbaric. How can humans be this cruel and without feelings. This just makes me so sad.
 

Mary H. (47)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:48 am
As if dogs are the only carriers -- even if immunized??? Are they going to hunt down every living mammal who may carry rabies?
They have no regard for animal life, human life, life of any kind...
And we are trading with them?? Training them to build their own planes, etc.??? Yet we are still boycoting Cuba after how many years? POLITICS!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:52 am
this is so sad! Even vaccanited dogs! Oh my its totally heartbreaking.
 

Marian S. (9)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:56 am
I just read what is going on in China. As a people, do they have any regard for life whether it is for animals or humans? I feel so sad that people are so hard of heart.
 

Debbie L. (180)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:04 am
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/131317412.

There is a link for a petition and here is some excerpts from the petition:

We, the Undersigned, endorse the following petition:
Say NO to mass dog slaughter in China
Target: Clark T. Randt, U.S. Ambassador to China
Sponsor: Care2


Officials in a southwestern Chinese county brutally slaughtered 50,000 dogs in a government-ordered crackdown after three people died of rabies.

Dogs being walked were seized from their owners and beaten to death on the spot. Killing teams also entered villages at night creating noise to get dogs barking, and then beat the animals to death.

Had the government been more attentive and proactive about rabies vaccination, the killings wouldn’t have been necessary. Only 3 percent of dogs are vaccinated against rabies and more than 2,000 people die of the disease each year.

Regardless of culture, the brutal killing of innocent life, human or not, is unacceptable. This must not happen again in the future! It is essential that the Chinese government place an emphasis on widespread rabies vaccination to ensure human health and prevent the unnecessary loss of animal life.

Sign this petition to call on the US Ambassador to China, Clark T. Randt, to urge the Chinese government to adopt rabies prevention as a rule.

I strongly urge any and all of you here to read this petition and decide for yourself if you wish to sign-maybe iyou can help make a difference, for some of the dog that they are preparing to target for culling. There are currently almost 22,000 sigs on the petition, and the goal is for 50,000. Help make a difference if you can please.
 

Debbie L. (180)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:05 am
Try this one:http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/131317412.
 

Terrie W. (6)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:21 am
This kind of abuse makes me sick. I can't imagine doing such a criminal act. It's hard to believe that there are humans in other places that can and never think or feel anything over it. I recieved the message of the petition yesterday and have started my part to end this crime. Please take a moment to help stop this kind of abuse. We all can afford to take a moment to help another in need.
 

Avery D. (7)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:23 am
This saddens me beyond belief.
 

Kathy G. (23)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 8:30 am
i just don't understand, why ,why???? these are god's creature's. he didn't put animal's on the earth for us to harm them and beat them.this just so upsetting to me to think of these poor dog's they don't know what's going on! i gotta go i'm about to cry!
i have to go be with my 2 big wonderful dogs!!!
 

Dianna Lynn Driskell (128)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 8:42 am
Yes, pretty pathetic and not very wise.
 

Katherine Williams (5)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 8:49 am
Sickening!
 

Sandra W. (42)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 8:53 am
I cry for these poor animals, it saddens me that the cruelest people are in charge of our world.
 

Greg M. (1)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 8:59 am
It deeply saddens me that the country that gave us the Tao Te Ching remains as brutal as this. Shades of Tibet and the slaughter therein. Sanctions at the very least must be imposed.
 

Lil Judd (70)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 9:05 am
I tried to submit this story, but it got lost in cyber space. People who do not value life do things like this. Don't the Chinese still eat dogs? This proves no education & how un-civilized they truly are.
 

Ann Jay B. (1)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 10:00 am
Where were all these protests when MILLIONS of birds were being slaughtered in order to prevent the spread of bird flu and all those cows and sheep were slaughtered in England a few years ago to prevent the spread of 'hoof and mouth disease'? We have demonstrated by our actions here in the west as well, that some life is more equal than others. This is a typical example of overpopulation causing life in general to be devauled. What will we do here in the americas when bird flu reaches our shores?
 

Susan L. (118)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 10:28 am
Have they not heard about rabies vacine? This country is hosting the Olympics. Seems a wee bit backwards to me. What other illnesses will our athelete have to worry about? There's bird flu, SARS, what else. They should vacinate their animals and quit reproducing. Then, overpopulation wouldn't help add to the problems.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 10:35 am
This is absolutely sickening. Dogs can be vaccinated against rabies and even people bitten by rabid dogs can be successfully treated. There is no excuse for slaughtering the animals in this manner. I am outraged and I hope others are too. I have decided to begin boycotting Chinese products and I have expressed my strong disapproval to the Chinese Embassy in Washington DC. Below is the contact information if others wish to follow suit:

His Excellency Zhou Wenzhong
Ambassador of the People’s Republic of China
Embassy of the People’s Republic of China
2300 Connecticut Ave. N.W.
Washington, DC 20008
202-328-2574
202-328-2582 (fax)

 

Luna V. (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 11:16 am
They should kill the cats. Those are the ones who wander.

On other hand, think about the avian flu. I think all of the countries that had avian flu outbreaks slaughtered chickens.

And about rabies vacine, only the rich people can afford it. There are still people in China that doesn't have a home and can't even feed themselves! If they have a home, a lot of people don't have electricity.

The Olympics is totally a stupid excuse, that's in Beijing, one of the richest and most overpopulated cities in China, or even the world.

Another thing, it's the KOREANS that eat dogs, and there are Korean culture groups in China. And eating dogs is not uncivilized. It's tradition. No offence, but do you guys know that tradition is still held! It's not dogs or cats, it's about how they lived and how they live now. There are things called tradition. Christmas is a traditional holiday in the US and around Europe.

Skipping along (I have to many comments to reply, truthfully, I watch the CHINESE news everyday), back to vaccines, a lot of people don't even go to hospitals when they are dying because they have to pay a BUNCH of money to even start special treatments, and a BUNCH MORE afterwards.

Also, the government is messed up. Since it's a People's Republic (one of the most messed up ones), the government get the money no matter what. Basically, the rich get more money while the poor and the people without money looses money. Yes, people WITHOUT money loose money, so they're in the negatives. The prices of products in stores don't even match up with the payments in jobs. A family might only survive on 200 Yuan a month.

Here's another thing I know, cars, people can't afford them. there's a lot of people, but over 75% can't even support their daily life.

Overall, almost nobody can afford to cure rabies, and the basic messed up plan of the government was to kill. I said, the government is messed up.

Ahh! I just thought up about another thing, a lot of people can't afford to go to school. The government and the schools themselves add a lot of random fees like heating. And the heating fee for one student can heat up a WHOLE classroom. And those RANDOM fees are like 100 times more than the school fee itself.

Don't call me annoying, I just know more. I am Chinese living in the US, and I disgust the way the government treats the people. And you can't stop it. It already happened. Disapprovals might just make it worse.
 

Luna V. (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 11:20 am
Forgot another thing, the overpopulation part. They already are limiting it to like one child per pair, sometimes two. And it's really hard to NOT stop reproducing...
 

Luna V. (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 11:23 am
Also (sorry for my triple post), Beijing is overpopulated in cars, dogs, and people. Just to note that it is also rich and the Olypics of 2008, will the one of the weirdest ones in the century (or further on).

and if you have any comments about my comments (not about my annoyance and stupidity please) you can drop a PM
 

Tatiana D. (30)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 11:26 am
This is serious....what should we do about it? They should start a petition.
 

Lynne Masters-Lee (4)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 11:26 am
No matter to what belief or moral system one subscribes, all teach that we are judged by our actions. Callously killing over 50,000 dependent lives in such horrific manner show a blatant disregard for life. Now that they've killed their dogs, are they going after other species, both domesticated and not? The dogs are either waiting at the Rainbow Bridge for the owners who grieve their loss, or have already passed into a place of grace, a place that will never be found by those who ordered and carried out such orders without thinking to do the right thing.
 

Debby C. (105)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 11:55 am
I'm just sickened by this, and I can't even begin to comprehend how something like this could be done in this day and time. I'm going to sign the petition as soon as I post this.

~~ Debby
 

Luna V. (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 12:22 pm
China is just a developing country, not like the US, you just have to understand their government is messed up. And not all chinese are idiotic.
 

Martina M. (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 12:44 pm
This is so disgusting. Please sign the petition today. We're almost to the goal for signatures. Thanks!
 

Laura T. (9)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 1:05 pm
I cannot believe this. That's utter insanity. I myself was biten by a dog here in Canada jsut a few months ago and the dog was not immunized and I had to go through rabies shots, but I did not want the dog to be put down, only for the owners to not let the dog run loose. I'm scarred for life, but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I had a hand in even ONE dog being killed.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 1:59 pm
Excuse me...I was bitten by a dog when I was about ten yrs old. It probably had rabies...there was originally two gaping holes in my right lower leg!. I got the jab and medication. The two holes healed!. Dont know what happened to that dog??. But even so...I didnt then nor do I now..wish the death of that dog or many more...SO this merciless,insane murder of all these defenceless dogs...is too much! This goes way beyond anything that merits just a petition, email or letters!...this merits intervention of bigger, global orgs with great influence!! If necessary..one has to take this up at the highest level..and dont think for one moment that any small time Chinese Ambassador is going to listen to anyone's pleas. Hes got more on his mind than trying to treat dogs more humanely!. He doesnt care the way you care.He doesnt give a damn!.The Chinese govt is more interested in its industrial and economic development and it momentous growth as a world super power!. It loves money. It worships money!.Thats a normal trait with any Chinese!.China is a hotbed of human and animal rights abuses. Probably the worst in the world to date!!!.
 

Jennifer M. (15)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 2:46 pm
Murder is murder. Animal cruelty is animal cruelty. It happens everywhere, unfortunately. Ignorance, 'science', or health risks cannot be 'okay' excuses anymore! Solutions? Spreading compassion to one another; educating whoever and whenever we can; and in the case of what China is doing - BOYCOTTING would send the strongest message. This will only be effective by a massive action from the 'ordinary' people of the world, as most leaders could care less. We CAN make a difference. Let your anger meld to motivation for the animals!!! ~Peace~
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 2:49 pm
Discusting, so sad!! Not only to kill these precious pets/animals, but the manner in which it's being done is unforgiveable!! Such cruelty!This makes me SO mad, and sad! I'm praying for these animals and their pet owners,too. I've signed the petition. And am boycotting all Chinese products. (Think Paul McCartney is as well-will not tour there now? Good for him!)
 

David Gould (155)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 3:54 pm
This is wrong!
 

Luna V. (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 4:02 pm
Ross is right. The chinese government and bunch of businessmen only care about money. Poor people care about money because they barely have enough to live...
 

Theresa Chartrand (67)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 5:53 pm
Why doesn't china treat the animals for rabies istead of killing them.China is not a place for any animal.
 

Ruby Treat (12)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:17 pm
I understand thier fear of rabies however i do not understand them not vaccinating thier dogs against the deadly killer.It seems that it is up to us"evil" americans to teach other countries to approach and humanly controll rabies outbreaks and other zooilogical diseases.I have not heard any good reports on how china treats thier animals there.I think China should be banned from having any anaimal there.Then there would be no heinous abuse cases going on in China any longer.It makes me so sad to here that there is so much abuse still going on in this world in which we call home.Please make it stop!
 

Cathy J. (65)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:19 pm
Cat J. Saturday 5, 2006 , 8:15 pm This is barbaric and inhumane. Shows the thinking patterns of uncarring people .
 

Elaine S. (31)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:39 pm
So very Sad... :(
Lighting a Candle for the Dogs...
 

ROBERT S. (58)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 6:46 pm
This has got to be the most insane thing i have heard. and we call ourselves a civilized world.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 5, 2006, 7:39 pm
China is a very primitive country and resorts to primitive reactions to deal with disruption. They are currently killing all female babies to increase food supplies for the males. Did you think that the students in Tienaman Square were going to achieve any thing, but death. WELCOME TO CHINA!
 

Freediver OzPolitic com (192)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 12:19 am
more info:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/group/feralperil
 

MaryAnn B. (80)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 2:56 am
It is absolutely repugnant and irresponsible of the Chinese Government to allow such laws to go unsupervised!
With their total lack of concern for its people and pet owners. Not one essence of this slaughter is justifiable. Three people die of rabies and 50,000 dogs are taken and slaughtered and most of them in front of their owners?
It is truly sickening and deplorable and makes me think twice about what is happening to the human race. We all have to band together and force the Chinese to change and improve their laws...or there is no hope for anything anymore. I am so very angry and disgusted.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 3:31 am
this is outrageous and most definately be stopped FULL STOP.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 3:32 am
this is outrageous and most definately be stopped FULL STOP.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 3:32 am
this is outrageous and most definately be stopped FULL STOP.
 

Tess K. (9)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 4:23 am
A heart-breaking and sickening response. Another case of China's inhumanity. What can be done? They don't care what the rest of the world thinks and countless cases demonstrate this as other contributors have mentioned. When someone can come up with a definitive solution - let me know. I will be there with guns blazing to help out.
 

Linda W. (174)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:33 am
The science and technology available to these people gives them the ability to fight this disease. Are they stuck in dark age mentality??
"The Black Plague - London 1665: 40,000 dogs - destroyed! 200,000 cats - destroyed!
...Rumours that it was the stray dogs and cats on the streets that were spreading the disease and ordered them to be destroyed. This action unwittingly caused the numbers of deaths to rise still further since there were no stray dogs and cats to kill the rats that carried the diseased fleas. 100,000 people - Dead!"
 

Iryna Herzon (16)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:40 am
News from China made me VERY sad but many of the comments here did equally so: have anyone noticed how many times a word "hate" was used? How can one hate the whole nation for the cruel act of it goverment at present? Do you hate your own nation (and goverment) for similar atrocities today (war in Iraq?) and in the past (slavery?) We are all humans alike! Don't forget that China was unfortunate to live under a totalitarian regime for so long, and still does. It affects people beyond understanding. I know, I was born in the USSR. And don't forget what misery "civilised" nations like Britain and the like inflicted on Chinese people in the colonial past, and we still do as irresponsible consumers of the world's resources. We are all gilty such things happen in the world.

Your hate will not help animals, nor the humanity, nor your own self. Take a book of Dalai Lama, a person who more than any one has reasons to hate China, and read it! Don't become unhumane because somedody else did it. And, yes, look through comments of others here for practical solutions (eg protest letter, campaigns etc), put your anger to creative work. Join Amnesty, they do a lot of work also in China to improve the situation for humans and animals alike (it all goes side by side).

And, finally, there is hope, always there is hope.
 

Joyce P. (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:44 am
Beyond words. Simply heartbreaking ...
 

Chris Nicosia (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 6:00 am
Why are people so cruel? I don't understand when they just kill animals and think nothing of it.Animals have rights too! What is this world coming to when thing like this can happen. Can't we all get along and love animals. They are so sweet and give us so much..
 

Zelda W. (35)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 6:40 am
The bible says "they gag at a gnat and swallow a camel". I think this is a good example of that. Killing all these dogs because a few of them have rabies? That's not only cruel, but stupid!
 

Carole D. (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 6:54 am
Until he extends his circle of compassion to include all living things, man will not himself find peace."
--Albert Schweitzer
 

Jeff L. (51)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 7:16 am
Does anyone truly believe that you can not find similar cases of animal cruelty in your own country? I too am appalled at the measures taken and do believe that the cultural differences are hard to understand. I will readily admit that I know little of true Chinese culture. I can't imagine judging the entire population (I believe that to be a billion people) over the actions of a few. Can you imagine the world judging you or your country based on the actions taken by a few people that actually are reported in the world news reports? I don't think that a boycott of products will bring about change in this area but it can succeed in hurting some very innocent people.
 

Debby C. (105)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 7:19 am
Already commented on this way up there ^, but wanted to thank Carole D. for her Schweitzer quote. Sent you a green star.
 

Dreamsinger L. (42)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 8:15 am
There are a great number of tragedies in our world today. Which one of them, if weighed side by side with the other, is greater than any other? The senseless deaths of baby seals slaughtered as they wait for their mothers on the ice, or infant humans slaughtered in the womb? Dogs being cruelly murdered while in various form of liesure/play/interaction at home or on the streets in China, or an Orangutan who entertained us in movies being beaten to death by its trainer for not obeying a command? A once pregnant wife being washed ashore, murdered and beheaded by her husband, her baby discharged by her body, washed up down-shore on the rocks, also dead. We gasp in horror at these atrocities, yet they are real. How fortunate are we NOT to live in China, NOT to live in Iraq, Paqistan, Israel, Palistine. And oh how fortunate we are that it wasn't our dog that was brutally violated by the nieghbor and sent home running around in circles, having to be euthanized to put her out of that pain and misery.

The Chinese are highly educated, but "family pets" are not on their list of "priorities". They don't get the whole "Circle of Life" thing. It is all about "Science" and "Money". Which is how it is for most Governments. When Activists appeal to them with "this is sickening and disgusting" and "Mommies and babies"...they don't hear them. They don't care. They don't hear "balance and ecology". They hear dollars and cents, scientific development. They hear who has the most "Power". It doesn't matter to them whether or not dogs feel fear, pain, have a sense of loyalty, and they aren't concerned with the "after-life".

If we want to make any progress toward our cause, we are going to have to learn "their" language, so that we can teach them ours.

Dreamsinger
 

Sherry H. (20)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 9:01 am
This needs to be stopped
 

Glynis S. (15)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 9:40 am
Stopped this now! I am not buying anything made in China until I hear otherwise.
 

Jeff L. (51)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 9:41 am
PETA reports that the United States performs euthanasia on 4 million unwanted pets a year. That is unacceptable and sort of skews the 50,000 number reported by this news story. I don't like either number but it does give pause for thought, let ye without sin cast the first stone....
 

Colleen Stadnick (131)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 9:41 am
This is SO SO sad. Those poor dogs. I feel like crying a tear for each and evey one of them. They are all innocents and this problem was dealt with in an incredibly ignorant way. Why can't these people understand what animal cruelty is? I am glad to read that there are more animal activists in China as time goes on, but they need help, obviously. I wish there were something we could do as a group to stop these killings and educate these people. AND, I CANNOT believe that people slaughtered their own pets, just for a few cents. I guess there are many poor people over there, but I just can't see it. But then it is an entirely a different civilization from ours, isn't it. :-(
 

Marie Labradore (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 10:07 am
This is so upseting. I don't see why people even have the pets in the first place it they are going to be so quick to get rid of them. There is no reason why they couldn't have tried to control it before they put all dogs to death. They would have never down something like that to human!!!
 

Marcia Barnes (11)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 11:32 am
Stop buying things from china.
 

sunya d. (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 11:33 am
China is a MASSIVE country that lacks any of the infrastructure to which we are used in the "1st world"(!). Which means for example that it is simply impossible to vaccinate ALL pets (they can't even do that in Spain), nevermind all the dogs that roam the streets and countryside. It is true that in a country that has such a disparity of wealth, life, human or otherwise, is cheaper than many of the things we take for granted (that is the real shame and it makes me sad), but what is the solution for that? I should also note that we constanly kill our own pets because they are "inconvenient" or whatever... (Jeff L has good stas above)...And whatismore, we (us in the west) constantly kill each other (not only in the west)... I am not even going to go into the other atrocities that we commit daily. I don't think that I am in a position to judge a culture - even one I know resonably well - when my own is so flawed.
 

Pamela M. (36)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 11:45 am
There are countless ways Chinese are contracting rabies and a dog cull will not change that. I agree that it is a ploy to keep people from identifying with animals and threatening the meat and fur industries. Difficult to comprehend such ignorance and heartlessness.
 

Chell T. (12)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 12:23 pm
Two terms come to mind, "good judgement" and "boycott." And since they haven't used the first, we should apply the second.
 

Cheryl B. (203)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 12:41 pm
Last week as I was surfing the Internet, I suddenly found myself staring at pictures of crates of living dogs being lifted by a crane. Legs and little heads stuck out between the slats. More crates of this precious 'cargo' were stacked, one on top of the other, waiting the same fate, which obviously was not to their benefit. Another pic showed cat skins laid out in a row. I am still gagging and can't get these pictures out of my mind.

I want to make it clear that I do not include ALL Chinese people in this insane killing category. Certainly there are those against this heartless cruelty to animals. Those sent out to kill the dogs in the dog cull are probably chosen, just as those who operate the cranes and stuff dogs and cats into crates, and those who force Tibetan monks to wear a patch of dog or cat fur because it is so against Tibetan beliefs.

As a Canadian against the slaughter of our seals, I am boycotting Canadian fish. I live on the west coast and fish has always been a part of my diet. I have to find alternate ways to meet the Omega 3 requirement for heart ailments, etc. Besides that, I like fish and miss it. How willing are you to give up Chinese food like sweet and sour spareribs and such? After seeing the pics above mentioned, it now will be easy for me to do just that. I would always wonder whether I was eating someone's beloved missing pet.
 

Dreamsinger L. (42)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 12:43 pm
Michelle T. said it very well! Yes! Saying it just like that is "speaking their language". I've been pondering this all day, trying to figure out how to follow through on what I had posted earlier. Good ideas, even when spot on, aren't any good unless they have Great Follow Through. Boycotting is another Good idea, but without a clear message attached to it (Great Follow Through) is like flushing the toilet. However Michelle T. delivered the Clear Message. "Lack of Good Judgement"...very clear cut and simple. Something they understand, and short enough to state within their "attention span".

"We are BOYCOTTING YOUR COUNTRY due to your LACK OF GOOD JUDGEMENT"

This says something CLEARLY to not only China, but to other countries that aren't protecting the rights of those issues who are important to the rest of us. We are NOT the minority. We are the MAJORITY!!

 

Kelly M. (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 1:00 pm
So did killing all the dogs in China solve the rabies problem? Or was it just the easiest way to deal with a problem they didn't know how to deal with. So all lthe innocent dogs got a bum deal. China needs to think before action, do a little research before you make a decision.
 

Jan Church (5)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 1:00 pm
Fortunately for the dogs, they are on the other side now and happy. It does not excuse the cruelty, ignorance and laziness of the authorities in China. I smell a RAT.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 2:00 pm
This is disgustingly over the top. I understand the need to do something to prevent further human deaths, but this seems like it was done just to attempt to set their minds at rest... like this made them feel like they had done something, at the loss of thousands of animals. Unbelievable.
 

RS Blain (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 2:19 pm
Animal abuse terrible. Outbreak of Rabies in a population even more terrible. Sad to say a choice always has to be made. It would be nice if innoculation could be current. It would be nice if poor people could afford the necessary care for pets and livestock. It would be nice if a government would see innoculation is available for any and all domestic animals. Other animals get rabies/hydraphobia. The rabies came from somewhere, not dogs. Bats or wild animals are the source so there is more to deal with in this particular case. I imagine we will hear about it when it happens.
 

Deborah Soper (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 2:41 pm
EVERYONE SHOULD BE READING LABELS AND FIND OUT WHERE YOUR PRODUCTS ARE FROM AND QUIT BUYING FROM CHINA AND TRY TO STOP BUYING FROM STORES THAT STOCK ITEMS PRIMARILY FROM CHINA - THESE PEOPLE HAVE NO REGARD FOR LIFE - IF YOU REMEMBER THEY WOULD ONLY ALLOW EACH FAMILY TO HAVE TWO CHILDREN AND IF THE BABY WAS A GIRL, THEY WERE KILLING THEM BECAUSE THEY WANTED BOYS - THERE PROBLEM IS RABIES INFESTED RATS
 

Bethann J. (2)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 2:58 pm
I am not even a little surprised that the dogs are not vaccinated. In the early 1990's parts of China suffered from a polio epidemic, becuase much of the population was not vaccinated. Many are still suffering the after-effects of this epidemic. Apparently, they still haven't learned that giving shots in advance is easier and cheaper than this. Culling these dogs is closing the barn door after the horse got out. Several groups from America have been formed to help vaccinate for polio. Couldn't a group be formed to go over and give rabies shots?
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 3:22 pm
I will never understand how someone can be so cold as to hurt or kill a living being. I refuse to buy anything made in China. I am sick because of all of these innocent animals dying such an unnecessary cruel death.
I have found another petition. I don't know if it will do any good.

We, the undersigned, petition the Chinese Government to stop "arresting" dogs because of the 2008 Olympic Games.
http://www.gopetition.com/sign.php?currentregion=237&petid=8997
 

Luna V. (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 3:36 pm
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Luna V. (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 3:39 pm
Oops, my last comment was messed up. Here's what I basically said:

Dogs are the only ones killed because rabies in Chinese is literally translated into Crazy Dog Disease. So there is a low chance other things being killed. I know killing dogs is bad, but killing everything else is worse.
 

John Beck (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 3:57 pm
“Justice? You get justice in the next world; in this world you have the law....
It’s the money, Christina; it’s always the money. The rest of it’s nothing but opera.” - William Gaddis

I am sure it's a lot cheaper to kill a dog than to vaccinate him/her. Especially in China. That is what this is about. Sad, but I imagine very true.
 

Jeff L. (51)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:04 pm
I suppose I have to state this again, The United States puts to death 4,000,000 unwanted pets a year. Many times the methods used are not humane. The decusion to do that is based on MONEY as well. Who are we to sit in judgement when we have the very same blood if not more on our hands. We dispose of these pets because no one wants them not because they represent a perceived danger to anyone in particular...
 

Karen M. (50)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:27 pm
There has to be a better way, another option. Being the owner of 3 dogs and having always had a dog in my life, it just SICKENS me. I pray for the poor innocents being murdered...
 

Laura Conroy (7)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:31 pm
When you watch Animal Cops or any other animal rescue show, you hear some of them say, "Nothing suprises me anymore." I thought I had already gottne to that point a while ago... Now my Kansas City is trying to ban dogs! I have a bull terrier mix and they want to kill her! And All "pit bulls" This is just insane!

We all see pit bulls shown on the news as killing machines... the sad thing is that there are a lot of people that never question.

Sign the Anti-Breed Specific Legislation Petition Here! = http://www.petitiononline.com/1227/petition.html

Make sure you read it, there are tons of facts about pit bulls that most people don't know! :-)
 

Laura Conroy (7)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:32 pm
When you watch Animal Cops or any other animal rescue show, you hear some of them say, "Nothing suprises me anymore." I thought I had already gottne to that point a while ago... Now my Kansas City is trying to ban dogs! I have a bull terrier mix and they want to kill her! And All "pit bulls" This is just insane!

We all see pit bulls shown on the news as killing machines... the sad thing is that there are a lot of people that never question.

Sign the Anti-Breed Specific Legislation Petition Here! = http://www.petitiononline.com/1227/petition.html

Make sure you read it, there are tons of facts about pit bulls that most people don't know! :-)
 

Laura Conroy (7)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 5:32 pm
woops
 

Nobody L. (50)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 6:59 pm
Consideration needs to be taken for this and find a better solution, please!
 

Fire White M. (508)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 8:18 pm
I am very disgusted with the treatment and caring of animals in all countries at the moment. People do not seem to care about other people or animals. A simple common sense thought of vaccinations and learning to care for dogs and cats could have prevented these and other outbreaks which were only heard of back in the dark ages.
I went to China recently and saw dogs being mistreated myself and felt very uncomfortable. Even simply bathing the dogs is hard. Maybe a liscence needs to be issued before any type of pet ownership. And I think this culling of dogs and other animals mistreated in China, including Bears needs to be halted. If China wants to think modern, maybe they should consider how they treat there animals and people before resorting to such cruel acts.

A representive from sancturies and RSPCA and some other socities could go over to China and make a major impact.

I find this type of story will drive people away from China, when you consider the Olympics is round the corner. So maybe the China goverment and its people could consider to turn a wrong in to a right before many people turn there backs.

I am begging those of you who are residents in China, to please change the ehtics now and consider animals can feel, even if they don't have the same emotions. Religion and Politics have nothing to do with this, only animal treatment and handling.

NOW IS THE TIME TO CHANGE AND MOVE ON. Make a effort with your animals and show the world you are a loving and caring nation.
 

Sandra W. (42)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 8:28 pm
thankyou Nelly Pinasco for the quote by Da Vinci wow sent you a green star.peace Sandra
 

Meg S. (5)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 8:38 pm
This makes me so sad, These poor dreatures suffer and rabies will still not be controlled
Meg
 

Jennifer O. (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 9:04 pm
This is disgusting, but so is the fact that we euthanize so many animals in this country, not to mention the billion or so that are slaughtered to be eaten. killing of any animal (except in self-defense, or to ease its suffering) is uncivilized.

and to the person who was looking for sources of omega 3 oils, try flaxseed. it's much more humane than killing a poor fish.
 

Auwie Lopez (2)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 10:56 pm
I am sorry to say this, but their method is downright barbaric, as well as stupid! The cruel killing of pets is not the solution to the problem. This is already the 21st century, it's high time these people think of the logical solution.
 

Sandra B. (5)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 11:10 pm
This is so sad... after I read this I was thinking "Why dont they vaccinate the dogs and only put down the infected ones?" then I thought.....Well, probably cause they think that would be more expensive than to just cull all of them.... I mean really if u think about it...all the killing of the animals in the world all comes back to the root of money! and I really think that is sooo sad that all the Beautiful animals have to suffer at the hands of humans all because of money...These people that have done Gods creatures wrong will get their payback at Judgement Day ...and what will they say when the good Lord up above asks them " Y for thou killest innosent animals I have put on Earth for ur pleasure?" I sure dont want to have to answer that question!
I have noted this on my profile.... God Bless all of u that are against this kind of cruelty!
 

Sandra B. (5)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 11:10 pm
This is so sad... after I read this I was thinking "Why dont they vaccinate the dogs and only put down the infected ones?" then I thought.....Well, probably cause they think that would be more expensive than to just cull all of them.... I mean really if u think about it...all the killing of the animals in the world all comes back to the root of money! and I really think that is sooo sad that all the Beautiful animals have to suffer at the hands of humans all because of money...These people that have done Gods creatures wrong will get their payback at Judgement Day ...and what will they say when the good Lord up above asks them " Y for thou killest innosent animals I have put on Earth for ur pleasure?" I sure dont want to have to answer that question!
I have noted this on my profile.... God Bless all of u that are against this kind of cruelty!
 

Egads Egadson (0)
Sunday August 6, 2006, 11:57 pm
Stop blaming eveyone in China! Its only in one county. And honestly the US would do the exact same thing. In truth it is out partial responsibility to make vaccines more widely available and affordable so that all dogs can be vaccinated, and culling does not become our only option. unfortunately, if we can vaccinate all the people in the world we certainly can't vaccinate all the dogs. Sure the mass culling is cruel, but what options do we have?
 

Patricia Chang (1)
Monday August 7, 2006, 12:04 am
China! This makes you look backward and barbaric and very,very Third World. Start vaccinating your pets. Other animals besides dogs and cats carry rabies. Killing all the dogs wont stop the outbreak. That is ignorant and stupid thinking. The national government must start a campaign to educate pet owners, offer rabies vaccine and make vaccination mandatory. Shame on you for being so backward!
 

Salama Shaquana (39)
Monday August 7, 2006, 12:41 am
Soon the world will be celebrating with China when they hold the 2008 Olympics one wonders what has to happen before the rest of the world wakes up to what happens in this country. The slaughter of over 50,000 dogs in the most inhumane way can not and should not be tolerated but whenh you think of their human rights record - life is cheap. This is very, very sad and I can only hope and pray that over time things will change.
 

Rev MCD (3)
Monday August 7, 2006, 1:15 am
Non-human animals have souls. When are people going to realize that killing or abusing an animal diminishes us human animals?
 

Oli Wang (4)
Monday August 7, 2006, 2:20 am
Why? I just cannot access the news!!!!! I'm in China now. I love animals and in fact people like me who lives here are more sad than you have expected cause we must face THESE and just cannot do anything! Now I even cannot access the article as a lot of informations as well. Something, the truth, we have no right to know.

I love case2, here, i chick to donate for the need, sign petition for US's forest. Anyhow,I can do nothing for my contory, my people, my pets, I felt sad and helpless here.

Anyway, Please don't hate China.Believe us, we love anminal too.
 

Mary G. (46)
Monday August 7, 2006, 2:34 am
I am certainly not condoning or defending any act of brutality. However, if one stops to think of the size , the physical size of China, that would be an astronomical fete to capture and test then vaccinate that many dogs. My guess is that although this country has computers etc, their veterinarian supply is probably not that large and goes to the preservation of endangered species. China has done more for their endangered Panda than most contries just dream about. And not to belittle this point, but we, and I am not including many vegens, are seeing this entire incident with blinders on. We are so enraged at this incident and yet every day we slaughter how many cows, steers, lambs, chickens, pigs, calves, ducks, geese, deer, etc. I do not pretend to know how they kill in the plants, but I remember watching my uncle kill chickens for dinner and it was very unpleasant. The cattle are stuffed into the trucks and sent to market. And that is their sole purpose for living. I hate to admit it but hamburgers to me are so good and I love my bacon and eggs, but if I truly decided to think about this too much, I would distress myself to no end. I believe that God put all things on earth for a purpose and put man (oy what a mistake) in charge. To kill and eat what is killed is the way of life. To kill and waste is a sin against god. It may have been a bad decision on some beauracrat's part in china, but can we honestly believe we are a superior bunch of folks? I think not. Hard times bring tragic events. I would be willing to bet abuse of children and elderly is up also right now.
 

Amy Standish (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 2:48 am
Disgusting. I feel sad not only for all those innocent animals, but also those poor owners who haved lost pets.
 

MURIEL S. (34)
Monday August 7, 2006, 3:07 am
I am appauled that dogs should be taken from their loving families and battered to death, there is NO excuse, and I will be writing to the Chinese Ambassador in the UK,
 

Patricia K. (71)
Monday August 7, 2006, 5:32 am
Well that does it. I'm boycotting the Olympics when they're held in China. It should come as no surprise to anyone that this wholesale dog slaughter is taking place considering China's historic and ongoing lack of respect for human life.
 

Jill A. (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 5:36 am
This is indeed a sad story; however I am appalled at some of the comments posted. How are we ever to become a peaceful planet with so much hate? The ignorance and intolerance I have read sadden me much, much more.
 

. (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 6:33 am
I am also shocked at some of the comments posted. Thank you for having the courage to say so first, Jill Abdo. Thanks also to Oli Wang for speaking up - the hatred exhibited here towards Chinese people must have been very hurtful indeed. Hugs.
 

Karin B. (328)
Monday August 7, 2006, 6:55 am
Step one: neuter all the dogs (it prevents overpopulation). As far as I was told in China humans are not allowed more than one child (2 in rural areas). So while they force women to abort they do nothing to prevent an overpopulation of cats and dogs-except killing them in barbaric ways? Look behind: there are big deals about cats and dog furs - and we buy them without knowing. Cheap fur is not necessarily fake fur. Please check all you buy-they put real fur (asian wolf=dog, similtiger = cat, there are lots of other names, too given to that shame) on GLOVES, HATS, CAPS, Pullovers! The italian league agains vivisection (LAV) has proved it by buying some cheap items and having them DNA-tested. So PLEASE check out and DON'T BUY!
Thanks
Karin
 

Greg M. (12)
Monday August 7, 2006, 7:18 am
Don't shop at Wal-Mart. That will hurt China.
 

Mia P. (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 7:59 am
It remindes me of the "Destroy the 3 pests" campaign.
 

wj s. (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 8:19 am
Yeah, I don't like it either. Too bad no one has the courage to stand up to China. Ever heard of Tibet ?
 

Ruth S. (79)
Monday August 7, 2006, 9:36 am
The number of the comments speaks for itself.
I can only join you to all.
There one lacks the words and it is also better in such a way.
Since it makes furious and there one says the things which one should not say. It is a disgrace for the so-called people.However, the Olympic Games should not take place in such a country!!
 

Ruth S. (79)
Monday August 7, 2006, 9:36 am
The number of the comments speaks for itself.
I can only join you to all.
There one lacks the words and it is also better in such a way.
Since it makes furious and there one says the things which one should not say. It is a disgrace for the so-called people.However, the Olympic Games should not take place in such a country!!
 

Yee Yean Lim (10)
Monday August 7, 2006, 9:59 am
Can we somehow send petitions to the governement of our own country and BOYCOTT TO PARTICIPATE IN the CHINA OLYMPICS??

This is so sad and brutal!! They are not even civilized, i am ashmae of being chinese for this one.. :(
 

Angela F. (10)
Monday August 7, 2006, 10:02 am
This is another reason to boycott China.......................................................................................... That whole country needs to go up in smoke............................................
 

Connie D. (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 11:25 am
First the dogs. . .what next. . . . Humans?????
 

Lauri P. (1)
Monday August 7, 2006, 11:44 am
Something needed to be done about the rabies problem, but this is rediculous !
 

Luna V. (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 11:46 am
I read a random comment on this, and he or she said, that China is making themselves very third world...

I think, China is currently STILL a third world country or know as a country that is developing.

Boycotting to participate in the Chinese Olympics will be the hardest thing to do. The Olympics is an international thing.

Jeff L.'s comment does make very good sense. All countries kill animals. Think about how many chickens get killed a year?

Are people reading the comments before they comment? I hope they do. Maybe some people will understand that people currently hate China is because it's on the news, but what about those animal killings that aren't on the news? People don't care about them? I don't think so.
 

debra inscoe (40)
Monday August 7, 2006, 12:41 pm
I AM ASHAMED OF CHINA, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT 1/2 BUDDHIST, AREN'T THEY ALL ABOUT KARMA? WHAT GOES AROUND COMES BACK AROUND? I AM A CHRISTIAN & MY RELIGION TEACHES TO LIVE WITHOUT HATE, WELL, RIGHT NOW, I HATE, WHICH ISN'T SITTING VERY WELL WITH ME. i LOOK AT MY PRECIOUS FURRCHILD AND THINK THAT IF ANYONE TRIED TO TAKE HIM AWAY FROM ME & BASH HIS BRAINS OUT IN FRONT OF ME & MY GRANDSONS THAT THEY BETTER BASH ME FIRST. DOGS CATCH RABIES FROM ANOTHER SOURCE, SO THAT IS WHERE THEY NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS,THE PRIMARY ONE, NOT THE SECONDARY ONE. I AM SERIOUSLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS AS AN EYE FOR NAN EYE SOUNDS RIGHT, THE COLD SHOULDER FOR CHINA SOUNDS RIGHT, BUT MY LORD JESUS TEACHES ME TO LET GOD JUDGE, JUST WORRY ABOUT KEEPING MY HOUSE CLEAN IN CHRIST, IT WILL ALL COME OUT IN THE END AND THE GUILTY WILL BE JUDGED ACORDING.
 

debra inscoe (40)
Monday August 7, 2006, 12:41 pm
I AM ASHAMED OF CHINA, IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT 1/2 BUDDHIST, AREN'T THEY ALL ABOUT KARMA? WHAT GOES AROUND COMES BACK AROUND? I AM A CHRISTIAN & MY RELIGION TEACHES TO LIVE WITHOUT HATE, WELL, RIGHT NOW, I HATE, WHICH ISN'T SITTING VERY WELL WITH ME. i LOOK AT MY PRECIOUS FURRCHILD AND THINK THAT IF ANYONE TRIED TO TAKE HIM AWAY FROM ME & BASH HIS BRAINS OUT IN FRONT OF ME & MY GRANDSONS THAT THEY BETTER BASH ME FIRST. DOGS CATCH RABIES FROM ANOTHER SOURCE, SO THAT IS WHERE THEY NEED TO LOOK TOWARDS,THE PRIMARY ONE, NOT THE SECONDARY ONE. I AM SERIOUSLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS AS AN EYE FOR NAN EYE SOUNDS RIGHT, THE COLD SHOULDER FOR CHINA SOUNDS RIGHT, BUT MY LORD JESUS TEACHES ME TO LET GOD JUDGE, JUST WORRY ABOUT KEEPING MY HOUSE CLEAN IN CHRIST, IT WILL ALL COME OUT IN THE END AND THE GUILTY WILL BE JUDGED ACORDING.
 

Paula J. (7)
Monday August 7, 2006, 12:48 pm
Pets are not the primary carrier of this disease in the first place. Wild creatures carry it and spread it to the domestic animals. Insects, wild creatures, THEN domestic creatures. ... Killing the domestic ones won't stop the disease.
 

Susan L. (118)
Monday August 7, 2006, 2:11 pm
overpopulation strikes again. " When will they ever learn, when will we ever learn?"
 

Adam ka (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 2:47 pm
:(
 

Egads Egadson (0)
Monday August 7, 2006, 4:05 pm
Don't boycott China or the olympics. the dog cull was a descision made by a COUNTY. not all of China, just one county. the vast majority of people in China probably disagree with the cull. would it makes sense to boycott the US if one state started doing something you didnt agree with? no. Don't think less of or insult China because of this one thing. That is narrow-minded and unintelligent.
 

tammymarie h. (24)
Monday August 7, 2006, 5:07 pm
I am wondering if China forces abortion on women? That would be much worse than killing a dog. I am sorry for everyone involved in this. These dogs are so fine looking...it can't be much fun for anyone involved in this situation. It's highly regrettable and sad. I'd hope a solution could be found, and soon. Sincerely, Tami
 

tammymarie h. (24)
Monday August 7, 2006, 5:11 pm
Thank you Paul Pain for the petition, which I'll definitely sign!
 

Alex W. (2)
Monday August 7, 2006, 5:44 pm
What won't work:
Petitions - The government will just ignore them.
Boycotting goods made in China - It won't hurt those who made the culling decision, and may even hurt those who are actually outraged by the culling.
What will work:
A declaration by the WHO that culling dogs won't solve the rabies problem. Maybe a petition to the WHO?
The IOC threatening to pull the Olympics from China and Western countries threating not to participate if this doesn't stop. But this is mere wishful thinking - it won't happen. Too much money involved.
Many countries in Asia were faced with rabies until recent years, and some still do even today. But they never resorted to culling on such a scale.
 

sudeshna Guha-Castle (3)
Monday August 7, 2006, 5:46 pm
Boycotting Chinese goods will send a message for sure. But the Chinese authorities need to be aware that culling dogs will not stop the spread of rabies, since non-domestic animals carry that disease first and spread it to domestic animals! Better education and more use of vaccinations will have better results.
 

C G. (63)
Monday August 7, 2006, 6:35 pm


Everyone, will you please switch to the new front page story?

Stop fighting on this site. Don't you know that they have already started the next massacre?

An Asian animal welfare organization is asking the public for help.

The only reason that I am commenting here is to redirect all of you to that story. It needs to stay on the front page.

We can choose to mourne the dead or fight for the living, or worse, spend all of our time improving our debating skills instead of trying to save those that we can. Please check out the story by Melanie B on the front page of the animal section for information on what's happening now and what we can do to try and help. We need to act now and talk later!
 

Valerie B. (31)
Monday August 7, 2006, 8:29 pm
I was not able to read all the comments (there were too many), but I did want to add a few things.

I do believe the Chinese government has gone about this the wrong way. They need to come up with a rabies law that will prevent outbreaks, not use knee jerk reactions after the fact. Vaccinations should be made available and all domesticated mammals vaccinated, by law. They should also institute quarantine and euthanasia/testing procedures for animals that bite. Rabies vaccines should also be made available for humans, and treatment should be given to any human bitten by a mammal, should the animal not be available for quarantine or testing.

Some basic rabies facts: Rabies is 100% fatal. If you are infected, you die. The only way to test for rabies is to biopsy brain tissue, which requires the test subject to be dead. Like most vaccines, rabies vaccines are not 100% effective. Even vaccinated animals must be quarantined. And finally, the disease can lie dormant for up to six months in an infected individual (human or otherwise).
 

debra inscoe (40)
Tuesday August 8, 2006, 8:56 am
I must be a decendent of Da Vinci, I have always thought of the destruction of animals as murder, while looking at euthanasia as a form of birth control for unwanted animals it occurs to me, well, when will we start euthanizing people as there are way too many on this earth, particularly unwanted ones......... Chinese maybe........
 

Patricia Horta (4)
Tuesday August 8, 2006, 9:44 am
It´s unfortunate that some countries feel that such drastic action is necessary. But remembering that this country doesn´t really have even decent drinking water for a majority of those who live in urban areas, the parents eliminate girls because only boys are important - and the government only permits one child per family, making the pregnant mother have an abortion to eliminate the second child, it becomes even more difficult for people of other cultures & countries to understand their reasoning in such cases. flora666 - Brazil
 

Bethann J. (2)
Wednesday August 9, 2006, 11:58 am
Just saw on the AP wire that the Humane Society has offered to go to China and help with a rabies prevention program. Hopefully the Chinease gov't will take them up on this offer.
Now as someonw who works on hunger issues, I wish I could get people as upset of the 24,000 people who die a day, 365 a year from hunger . . .
Obviously the voices of the outraged have been heard, and hopefully will be headed.
 

Liz sands (76)
Sunday August 13, 2006, 4:42 am
Why are people so cruel.
 

Marc Crowlaw (3)
Monday August 14, 2006, 8:11 am
I'd comment but I think all the sensible solutions have already been noted/stated so I'll just say ditto.
 

Patricia LaFever (3)
Friday August 18, 2006, 11:16 am
Everything seems to be already said. I'll just say that I'll echo the above statements. This is ridiculous!
 

James Brown (0)
Saturday April 14, 2007, 8:04 am
After reading about the contaminated pet food and the tragic stories told by pet owners I did some looking around and I would like to tell you what I found.
Everyone at one time or another has been bitten by a dog or cat. Last week, my sister`s little dog gave me a nip and I jumped(she laughed). It's no big deal where we live.
But, if you live in China, get bitten by a dog, you could become one of the 200 people that die every month from rabies.
It seems some people in China have been breeding dogs and cats for a long time for their skins. I guess they make fur hats or something that they sell and export. This and other factors has led to a dog population in excess of a 150 million dogs. This has enabled rabies to proliferate to the point where China has 80% of all human rabies cases worldwide.
Last summer the authorities started a campaign to kill all dogs, usually by clubbing them to death even in front of their owners. Perhaps someone got a little tired of swinging clubs and thought of a more efficient approach to the culling of the dogs.
The pet food poison.
I hear a lot about melamine, but after reading the MSDS sheet on melamine it looks like it is not anything more than an irritant and carcinogen. It certainly does not block an enzyme necessary for protein synthesis upon which kidney function depends but Aminopterin(the rat poison) does. (Aminopterin was also used in chemotherapy but was discontinued because it was too toxic.)
The 2008 Summer Olympics will be held in Beijing China. If people find out about the rabies epidemic they may think twice about attending, investors may think twice about investing in a would-be profitable venue. They probably don't want you to know about it.
I`m not aware of how Menu Foods got the poisoned wheat gluten; maybe it was thought to be a very economic purchase or the supplier was having a going-out-of-business sale or a shipment mix up: We got their gluten they got ours by mistake.
My heart goes out to the owners of the pets that are sick and dying. The only thing sicker is that when the slime and destruction is finally scraped away, there`s the dollar.
James
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 14, 2007, 1:49 pm
I think it is primitive! The U.S. keeps all primitive actions ,like plastic bag recycling in China to cover our dirt. Please don't forget Gatt and it's outcomes.
China is needy and without a moral code. We have to help them. What is the next step for us?
 

Prasad A. (3)
Saturday December 15, 2007, 11:40 am
China, Japan and other gulf countries are the sickest I can think of for the way they treat animals.
I wont be surprised if they soon start killing themselves and being sold as meat!!!

I wonder when are these sick humans gonna learn the fact that animals have a family and they too cost a life.
 

Emily Barkovic (0)
Thursday January 3, 2013, 6:28 pm
thanks noted
 
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