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200 Whales Trapped in Canada's Arctic 'Must Be Killed'


Animals  (tags: canada, marine wildlife, whales, narwhal, culling, trapped, starvation, endangered, extinction, habitat, protection, suffering, sadness )

Jacquelin
- 2058 days ago - theaustralian.news.com.au
AT least 200 narwhal whales in Canada's Arctic, trapped by winter ice and facing starvation or suffocation, must be culled, officials say. Hunters from the village of Pond Inlet on Baffin Island discovered the animals trapped near Bylot Island, about 1



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Natasha V. (4)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 2:52 am
canadians will find any reason to kill poor animals (no offence to canadians that love animals) but ever since the seals theyve been trying to find any reason to kill them and now whales..what next?
 

Yee Yean Lim (10)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 9:59 am
These creatures are so rare now, please stop bully them, arghhh! When will humans ever learn??!! >.
 

Dea Ferreira (0)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 10:02 am
This is horrible! There must be a way to help these poor creatures instead of killing them! Maybe there's a way to break open a passage for them? What a horrible slaughter, the animals don't stand a chance.
 

Margaret Trainor (61)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 10:07 am
These whales are trapped in the ice. They are going to starve to death. The Inuit people know about these things and happened to find them by accident . It is far better for the Inuit to kill these animals than they just starve to death...
 

Ky W. (0)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 10:29 am
This isn't unusual. First of all, it's the ARCTIC and water freezes. I've seen the same conditions exist for belugas. The whales gather and take turns breathing at an air hole in the ice. For months!! They all work at keeping it open. They have fed throughout the year and are fat with blubber for warmth and lean times ahead. Some perish due to predation (polar bears) and starvation, but they manage to pull through. To say that's it's "unlikely" that the narwhals will survive is bunk!! Shame on them for just taking their live into their own hands. Where has our compassion gone? May their passing be quick and with reverence.
Aho Mitakuye Oyasin (All My Relations)
 

Joy r. (0)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 10:53 am
This is outrageous! Narwhals are adapted to these living conditions, and although some might not make it, I'm sure some will. They will keep a hole open to breathe, and have layers of blubber for sustainance and warmth. It is wrong to just kill them, especially with the population declining already. Please email the canadian prime minister to protest this (and the Harp seal hunt) at: pm@pm.gc.ca Thank you.
 

Pierre Lefeuvre (7)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 11:00 am
Let's nature take its course, we have no business intervening one way or another, these animals are adapted to this climate, let them work it out.
 

Judith Jaehn Jaehn (199)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 11:13 am
I love that word they use, harvest! Like they were corn! They are now using the word harvest with the horses and all other sentient beings! Wake up assholes, these are living, breathing animals! What in the hell gives them the right to go on a killing spree! Stupid murdering assholes! I am just so sick of all this killing! Thank you dear Jacqueline! Noted with anguish!
 

Margaret Trainor (61)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 11:35 am
Perhaps some of you should go to this place and speak to the elders and find out what the reality is. I think it is far more humane to kill these animals than to let them just starve to death...the winter in this area is very very long ,remember this the arctic ..
 

Lyn C. (70)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 3:59 pm
Here's a thought, why doesn't the Canadian government send some of their Ice Breaker ships to open a path to the open water for the Narwhals?! They are said to open paths for the Harp Seal "hunters" each year, so the "hunters" can get to the Harp Seal breeding areas,, why not try saving some marine mammals instead of just helping kill them!?!?
 

Brenda H. (29)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 4:06 pm
EXCELLENT IDEA LYN! THESE WHALES ARE RARE AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD "HARVEST" THEM-AS OTHERS SAID--LET NATURE TAKE IT'S COURSE--THEY MAY SURVIVE--A "HARVEST" THEY HAVE NO CHANCE!! THANK YOU JACQUELIN!
 

Vijay Tankha (28)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 4:30 pm
Has nobody thought of air-lifting these trapped creatures. We hear of so many spectacular rescues by air lifting the endangered. Whales are huge and the problem will seem insumountable, but man is known for his great inventions, so surely he can come up with some way of saving these poor creatures. Lets pray God that something can be done.
 

Allyn M. (0)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 4:39 pm
Why they wont send icebreakers is because they dont want to spend the money
on mere whales! Hope the Japs dont hear about this! They would send another fleet to join the killings!!!
 

Pierre Lefeuvre (7)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 6:01 pm
Hello bleeding hearts, are you prepare to pay for your great ideas, the icebreaker, the airlift or whatever else you come up with.
I will be the first one to admit that the narwhal is a magnificent animal but don't you think that men put his nose in too many things already, if we have to run a battalion just to save every creature in danger we should budget for.
The Inuits have a right to "harvest" as long as it is for their own subsistance. This is the law of nature, no one say it is fair but this is the way nature works, the city slickers should just mind their own business .
 

Valerie H. (136)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 6:22 pm
As a Canadian...this is a very sad story for us...these poor creatures..

Our Conservative Government, led by good ol' Steven Harper are NOT friends of animals...they prove this time and again and are right now getting ready to bludgeon our seals to death next Spring. Doesn't matter what the majority of Canadians feel about the subject. This Government is an embarrassment to environmentalists!

My heart goes out to these poor whales...but this Government will do nothing about this tragedy...it is sad indeed...

Thank you Jacqueline
 

Joy r. (0)
Sunday November 23, 2008, 7:39 pm
Please protest this and the harp seal hunt. email the Canadian prime minister at: pm.@pm.gc.ca I have written several times, and the last time included some pretty pictures. They are not going to like me...
 

Darlene K. (367)
Monday November 24, 2008, 12:36 am
Noted with heavy heart, and I wish they would stop killing the beautiful creatures. Thank you.
 

Josephine Fenech (15)
Monday November 24, 2008, 8:08 am
there should be a way to save them !
 

Dave A. (27)
Sunday November 30, 2008, 7:39 am
It's very simple to sit at a desk thousands of miles away and point your mouse in judgment. People should do some research and if they have the money and time, go up north for a visit. Actually, go up there for a year and live like the common person up there. Bring lots of money to buy your $4 can of coke or $50 for a watermelon. Go live the life of those you judge so harshly.

As for the whales...it is sad indeed that so many were trapped and that the only solution offered was to slaughter them all. This has happened before and many of the narwhals and belugas have died...it's not something that suddenly has happened. The meat and blubber is being used by everyone there and it's only the males that have a tusk so they aren't just singling out those. The nearest icebreaker was seven days away, that's seven normal sailing days; you also have to figure in the time breaking through ice as well. From what they have observed before it is known that these animals won't survive for long, they don't grow extra fat just in case they get trapped. The holes are icing over and eventually they will drown.

So what do you do-gooders want? You didn't jump in airplanes with chainsaws to cut a trench for 50 kms to save them. You do what you normally do...which sit behind your computer and spew your hatred out on people you know nothing about. I challenge you all to go up there to live...you wouldn't last a week without your Starbucks and Wal-marts. You run to your little organic-veggie store and marvel that you have a carrot that is as pristine as the ice inside a glacier. You don't realize that millions of people can't have that carrot, but that doesn't matter because you have it.
 

Margaret Trainor (61)
Sunday November 30, 2008, 7:50 am
Thanks Dave ...many do not know the realities of the far north and what it would entail trying to save these animals ...it is unfortunate . But we also have to remember if the Inuit had not found them they would have just perished with us none the wiser and that happens a lot in the north...sad but that is the reality of nature.
 

Dave A. (27)
Sunday November 30, 2008, 8:03 am
Yes Margaret...indeed it is unfortunate that animals have become trapped and it does happen, sometimes it is discovered and sometimes not. Why didn't HSUS, with all their money go up there to rescue the narwhals, they have more money than the Bank of Canada. Is it because they would rather sit behind a desk and send out ads and brochures...with an address on the bottom that asks for a donation? Of course some people don't really care about how an animal dies...just as long as it doesn't die by a human's hands no matter who they are.
 

Lyn C. (70)
Sunday November 30, 2008, 10:19 pm
The first comment from Dave I wasn't going to say anything about, but the second one at 9:38 AM got me steamed so....
First of all, most of us here don't sit at a desk and point a mouse in judgement without some thought of what we are replying to. Frankly your arrogance in implying that just because we don't live up there we can't understand what's going on, is beyond belief. There are those of us who have done much research into what's going on up North, and it's plain and simple, Politics. The fact that the Narwhals weren't as important to try to save, as it is to spend time and money cutting paths for Harp Seal killers is nothing new. The government might have have at least made an effort for saving animals rather than always helping kill them.
Secondly, Mr. know it all, I don't have the money for Starbucks, nor would I spend it if I had it that way. Yes we certainly do shop Walmarts, that's the best deal in town. How did you, BTW, combine Starbucks and Walmarts as the two places "we" go to?! They are two different worlds!!!
 

Dave A. (27)
Monday December 1, 2008, 7:25 am
I guess you know how it feels now when someone paints you with the same brush. In truth many of the people who donate money to 'Causes", don't have a clue what they are doing or where the money is going. You could collect a fortune saying you are trying to save the dust mite.

So you don't sit idly behind a desk just like many sealers, hunters, trappers, natives...are knuckle dragging idiots who smoke, get drunk, and beat their wives and kids. They are human and have the same set of values as most people. Not all are good, just like any given group of people anywhere.

It's good that you research, but most don't. Not hard to tell by many comments. It's easy to judge people you don't know and frankly most people don't a poop about anyone, especially people so far away. That makes it easier to criticize them and how they live.

Of course it would have been good if the coast guard had managed to go there and save all the narwhals, everybody would have been happy...not likely though, HSUS would always find a way to turn a good thing around. I don't know who made the final decision to not send an ice breaker but it was made. The people who are filling their stomachs with the food they like are very happy they don't have to buy a 6 oz. steak for $20 or more, I'm sure.

As for Starbucks and Walmart; first two places that popped in my head. Point being that both are pretty much part of any city, large or small. Of course I could have paired two better ones, I'm just naming big names is all. No Walmarts or Starbucks in the north, never will be...unless there's a big oil or diamond boom and southern people get a taste of it. That's what lures a lot of people up there...big bucks.

I don't know it all, but I do know the people who get dumped on by people who don't know them. I know who's good and who's bad. I know who take responsibility when they kill an animal and I know who would just piss on any animal or person.

I don't argue about anyone's right to protest and I don't argue about anyone's right to lawfully and legally kill animals. I would stand up to protect the rights of either side if it was threatened to be taken away.

The problem today with the environment is everyone's fault. Corporate greed is fueled by consumer greed. Each and everyone of us is killing the planet, if indeed it is being killed. We eat, wear clothing, use some sort of fuel driven transportation, make waste, etc...the only solution to stop all that is to die and I believe that's already been suggested by others....even though they aren't setting an example of it.

I rambled on didn't I...oh well. Anyway, all my message is meant to convey, is look at the people and look in the mirror before you pass judgment. What may be good for some may not be good for all.
 

Jay Maccormick (0)
Tuesday December 9, 2008, 11:29 pm
Dave I like your style!

If more time was invested to learn about what they were commenting on and looking farther into it than just the "XX numbers of animals to be culled" headline we would all be better for it. Nothing is more dangerous than an ill informed populist.

Although it's not my ideal vacation I'm certain my trip to Iqaluit in February will open my eyes to a different and possibly better way to enjoy life that doesn't include brands names and over the top conveniences. I have to confess I do love a piping hot Chai Latte when venture into the city ever few months.
 

Mark Donners (14)
Saturday December 27, 2008, 6:19 am
Canadians never cease to amaze me with their cowardly and downright vicious attitudes.. I'm surprised they haven't slaughtered their own children the way they slavishly follow their government and defend the most vicious and largest wildlife slaughter in the world without a hint of conscience. The entire world has to to drive a stake through their economy before they wake up to the absolute horrors and atrocties they are committing against wildlife. This whale thing doesn't surprise me. It's in Canada's brutal nature and par for the course.
 

Lyn C. (70)
Saturday December 27, 2008, 11:06 am
The E Mail addy I'm about to post here is I'm sure not new to most Care2 members, but I thought I'd post it in case any new members weren't aware of it. I have been a member for a long time, so know many of the members and they are pretty decent people, although some are hunters and some believe the "hunt" is okay. I argue with them, in as polite a manner as possible, and with any current facts I can find. The folks can get "testy" at times, so be forwarned! :-)

the site is www.ezboard.com Then go to Eco Defense. This is one of the most active anti-sealing sites I've found with both side of the issue being discussed. If anyone is interested and has trouble getting onto the site, just E Mail me throught the Care2 site and I'll see what I can do.

Lync
 

Dave A. (27)
Wednesday December 31, 2008, 6:07 am
Eco Defense is not as crazy as this one. Many people here wish harm on others and to me that is nuts. The men who hunt seals are no different than any others across North America and most of them are fishermen, putting food on the plates of millions of people. If they stopped sealing and fishing there would have to be a lot of food found from somewhere else. I don't think that most people here with their little veggie garden they think they can grow will last too long.

Mark Donners caught on to us...I must go visit my neighbor and help him slaughter his kids....he must have had relatives in the Donner Party to think that one up.
 

Dave A. (27)
Tuesday January 20, 2009, 7:57 pm
Largest wildlife slaughter? Go to Australia and count the number of kangaroos they kill.
 

Mark Donners (14)
Tuesday November 10, 2009, 3:34 pm
Canada is one of the most despicable, degraded and immoral countries on earth. It is a country of dark socialist slavery, with a population so utterly brainwashed and degraded that they lick the boots of the worst criminals in their society, imposed on them as "ministers" in their government. Take Harper, an exact Bush clone and a Hitler which Canadians will defend to their last dying breath, even though he is a warmonger who works to keep Canada's place as one of biggest arms dealers in the world and who drools at the chance to kill children in Afghanistan and an environmental destroyer. Harper sent his clones to back Bush in crushing the global warming agreements in Bali, he tries to push his tar sands, the dirtiest oil on earth which has destroyed forest areas the size of small countries; this mutated troll that Canadians lick the boots of flew to Europe to beg them to let him continue the most horrific, bloody and agonizing slaughter of wildlife ever seen in history. Canada has become the laughing stock and the most spit on country in the world, but for the sake of their wish to have death suffering and destruction in their lives, Canadians will march in lockstep behind the most depraved and criminal government the world has ever seen. No western nation can compare with this Canadian sick apathy under a criminal government except Hitler's germany.
 
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